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Beverlyjean:
Messi fans will talk bad about other footballers that had been compared to him including Maradona and pele so for them to feel good... life doesn't work that way ... that bitter mind that u lots hv is the reason y he will not win any national honours or CL again till he retires ... messi fans are bitter souls

Last I checked, you have been the one sounding bitter.... It's just a peaceful arguement.....u don't need to attach emotions to it

Beverlyjean:
Which trophy did he mk then loose ?? Messi should go and win another trophy...

Back to back cup titles in which juve has always won before his arrival

Beverlyjean:
Italian seria a best player, Seria a league title , super cup about to win another seria a title and golden boot and even European golden boot ... he has won more titles in 2 yrs than ur dwarf that has only won 1 title in 2 yrs ...ronaldo will mk it 4 titles by weekend

Lol, see ur self now......

Ronaldo fans have bin reduced to counting their eggs before they hatch....The only certain title for Ronaldo is the serie A title... for now

Now, serie A title isn't a child cup but Laliga title is one?

Ronaldo hasn't even won the local golden boot against immobile not to talk of winning European over Lewa...

He has more titles than Messi in two years, yet he still can't meet up with as much trophies as Messi has....

A little advice for u, when arguing, don't do it with hate.... do it with reasoning

Babaj145:
And where in my write up did I mention dat juventus was his dream club ..he went to juventus simply because he wanted to play in a club where he felt he will be more appreciated...it wasn't about money oga..

He is in a club where he is more appreciated, yet he and his sister both Lament and condemn Juve's tactics....

Didn't he know about Juve's tactics before going there......

He went there expecting Dybala to always feed him as Benzema did.

Now tell me the club wich appreciates him the most.....the one which everyone plays for him(madrid) or the one in which everyonep for themselves(juve)

Beverlyjean:
Barca will continue to win la Liga after messi ... winning the league is no big deal .... CL is the holy grail of club football... over 60 teams win league titles every season , only one team wins the CL...

And Juve will continue winning the Serie A with or without Ronaldo....
Win them the Champions League....NO
Instead he's making them lose trophies due to selfishness

Beverlyjean:
Do u actually read people's opinion about u...most think u are retar.ded ... u might even b a 12 yr old typing on his dads computer

Now, u sound retarded with this comment

Beverlyjean:
U just posted pure crap...pls what has messi win since iniesta and xavi left ??

Pls stop mentioning children's cup as achievement, only messi fans use children's cup as messis achievement... xavi also win junior world cup so as pogba...but no one cares ... in fact no one remembers the present holders ... neymar doesn't talk about his Olympic medal but rather the cops America he won ... only u shameless messi fans de carry children's cup for head as achievement cos ur little boy cant win cup meant for men

Please, what has Ronaldo won since he left the mighty Madrid??....No good individual award.... children cup

Beverlyjean:
Which havoc?? Do u know how many completed dribbles, shots on goal/ target and chances created ronaldo had in that game ??

Please, I like people who speak with evidence....not just do you know....

obonujoker:
Can you name the player with the highest successful dribbles in a single match, in football history?? I'm waiting

Jokerman, is this you??....I know all your lies

ProfAmaben:
Penalties are the sole reason why Messi hasn't won any tangible trophy for Argentina.

To be the best, you have to master all tenets of soccer such as Heading, Penalties, Freekicks, outside shot, one on one situations and dribbling.

Ronaldo has it all.

So, all these u mentioned are all the "tenets" of soccer...SMH

Okay o

OfficialJayy:
Oga, bye bye... I'm tired

See you on the next messi/ronaldo thread

#respect

No Wahala bro

#respect

OfficialJayy:
Hahahahahaha... Ballon d'or are awarded to players based on their performance in the 'previous calender year' not the previous season.....

Always get your facts right next time before jumping into an argument

Lol, ok I'm wrong and u're right.....
Still,

Who was the best player of year 2010?
Who was the best player of year 2018?

I await ur answer before I proceed

OfficialJayy:
Wrong stats?? funny you mentioned that bro

anyways, sneijder won all the club competition he participated in that year, I dont know where you got your info from... and also, modric did not win uefa super cup nor supercopa de espana like you are claiming..

Have a nice day bro, one love

Lol, see this man o.....av u forgotten that it was ur false stats that brought me here?

Don't argue with me......
First off, Balon d'Or 2018 was for players performances of 2017-2018 season likewise ballon d'Or 2010 was for performances of 2009-2010 season... everyone knows this.....unless you don't know.

In August 2017, real Madrid beat man Utd 2-1 to win the UEFA super cup...

And also, that same August 2017, Real Madrid beat Barcelona 5-1 on aggregate to win the supercopa de españa....Now u know..

Now, over to Inter Milan, August 2009, inter milan lost the supercopa italiana to lazio 2-1...season 2009-2010

But won the 2010 supercoppa italiana in august 2010 after defeating Roma 3-1....
But that was for another season entirely....it was for the 2010-2011 season and didn't count as a point for sneidjer.....I guess u never knew,.....now u know.....

Do you need picture evidence too??...

OfficialJayy:
Oga, go and sleep abeg... carry your arguments and go

I will go o....But I will keep coming back if u keep dropping wrong stats and infos just to favour ur goat

OfficialJayy:
ronaldo in 2018.. won the ucl, scored 44 goals in 43 club matches and 4 goals in the world cup

messi in 2010.. won la liga, scored 47 goals in 53 club matches and 0 goals in the world cup

sneijder in 2010.. won all 4 club trophies(serie a , ucl, coppa italia, supercopa italia), got to the final of the wc, scored more goals and had more assists than modric

modric in 2018.. won the ucl and got to the final of the world

I'm not saying modric did not deserve the ballon dor but rather I hate double standards, for messi to have won the ballon dor with those stats, then cr7 should also have won.. and for modric to win the award with those stats, then sneijder should also have won.. simple

"in 2018.. won the ucl, scored 44 goals in 43 club matches and 4 goals in the world cup"

U're still not getting it.....
In this life, nobody recognizes u if u re second or third....likewise football....

As long as Ronaldo wasn't the best scorer, best player or best assister, he can't be recognised....The four goals he scored in the world cup, wat did he use it to achieve??.....he had only one good match in the world cup... it's just like saying Harry kane should av been a top 5 contender for the balon d'Or because he was world cup top scorer and scored 41 goals in 48 apps.... I keep telling u, It's not always about the goals

Messi with his goals was Laliga top scorer, ucl top scorer and Europe top scorer....wat did Ronaldo achieve with his goals apart from UCL to make it the same scenario as 2010?


Simple,
Messi's stats was the best in 2010... unarguably

Was Ronaldo's the best in 2018??....


Please, Sneidjer didn't win the supercoppa Italia..
........... Sneidjer won 3 trophies in club level...UCL, serie A and copa copa Italia...

And U think Modric won just the UCL in 2018??...Modric won the UEFA super cup, club world cup, UCL, supercopa de España.

And u are the same person who said forwards are judged by goals and assists, not midfielders.....why then are u judging Modric and Sneidjer by goals and assists...
Sneidjer had more goals and assists than Modric... yet, he cudn't win d world cup golden ball.....

I'm still telling u, It's not abt goals and assists...being impactful in a team goes beyond goals and assists....

There are alot of times when Messi doesn't score or assist in a match but still comes out as man of the match....can u say thesame of Ronaldo??

Any match Ronaldo doesnt score, he is always seen as the flop of the match by his rating.

OfficialJayy:
boss, na wa for you oo..
you said if messi does not win anything for the next three seasons, he would still have more trophies than cr7.. so I simply asked a question, that what would happen if what you said came to pass and ronaldo won the serie a throughout those seasons?? And bro, unlike you, I have full belief in cr7 to win any competition he participates in.. barca is still in the ucl and yet you assumed that messi would end the season without a trophy.. have a little faith bro

Faith doesn't win trophies oga....hard work does...it doesn't matter if u believe in cr7 or not...pesin wey go go trophyless go still go am....cr7 in Madrid, there wer years Real Madrid went trophyless....So, it's not faith that will win juve trophies till 2023 neither is it cr7..

OfficialJayy:
Messi was not the highest goal scorer in that competition... messi missed a penalty and did not win the trophy.. yet you think he deserved the award... messi played well in that tournament, no doubt, but so did sanchez and his chile team mate...

I laughed really hard when you suggested that messi was not given the award because he 'reportedly' turned down the previous one, but yet it was okay to give him the fair play award

Tell me what modric did in 2018 that sneijder did not do and exceed in 2010

Sneidjer wasn't the player of the tournament....

U think it's an easy feat to be the best player of a world cup tournament

OfficialJayy:
The pic attached to this post is from Wikipedia, read carefully and you will see how many trophies cr7 and messi have..

About the four serie a, I was just replying to your statement where you said 'even if messi does not win any trophy for three years, he would still have more trophies than cr7'... so if that was the case, and cr7 won the serie a this season and three more in each of those seasons that you mentioned, who would have more trophies??

So, it's true.... You've already counted the next 3 serie A trophies as juventus'.....wat a joke

OfficialJayy:
Oga, stop sugarcoating anything, messi did not deserve the award that was given to sanchez

ronaldo won the 2013 ballon d'or because of his 'individual performance'( he scored 60+ goals that year), same way messi won the ballon dor last year because of his individual performance....

If there's any thing that needs explaining... I think its the reason why cr7 lost the ballon dor to modric while messi won the same ballon dor over sneijder despite being under similar circumstances

I knew u wud later fall ur own hand by saying that Ronaldo deserved the balon d'Or over Modric...
Oya let me explain to u

Individual performance wise, Ronaldo wasn't the best....was he the top scorer in europe??....No
............was he the top scorer in laliga??......No
...........he was the top scorer only in UCL in which both he and Modric contributed and both lifted the trophy....

Was he the best player in the world cup......No....Modric was

Yet u want him to reap wer he didn't sow...lol

U said it urself, he won 2013 balon d'Or by being the best individually....2018, was he the best individually??

And u also claim Messi won the balon d'Or 2010 under similar circumstances...ok listen
2010, Messi was Europe top scorer, La liga top scorer, champions League top scorer....


Yes Sneidjer won the UCL, but messi also got to the semis and was also top scorer...

The only chance for sneidjer to win the balon d'Or over messi was to either win the world cup or world cup best player.....but did he win either of them??

OfficialJayy:
Oya clap for yourself, you have said something very funny...

Messi has won 34 trophies compared to cr7 31.. 4 serie A trophies this season and 3 more seasons is enough to surpass messi...

Lol, i thought u wer clueless and ran away...

And wer did u see that Ronaldo has 31 trophies... Who dash am....av always told u to make the right findings...or are u also counting friendly cups??

I advise u, always use Wikipedia or whoscore.... those guys are reputable or better still watch football as a fan, not as a Ronaldo asslicker..

Ronaldo has 29 trophies....and please name the four serie A trophies that he has won this season??...are u sure u watch football

He has lost one trophy already...his only certain trophy for now is the serie A trophy..... it's obvious u are already counting his chickens before they hatch....
This shows aw weak serie A is....if their fans can count trophies before winning them.....

This is the same serie A Ronaldo fans claim he went to for a new challenge...

OfficialJayy:
I feel bad for all these Messi fanboys right now.. you guys must be in severe pain right now knowing that there is a huge possibility thar your GOAT might finish the season without a single trophy....

Lol, it's not a new thing.....even if Messi goes trophyless for 3 more seasons, Ur goat wud still not av as much trophy as he has

OfficialJayy:
Pls, I'm tired of arguing with you, stay off my mention till messi wins an international trophy for Argentina

Typical Nigerian, are u vexing already....u are now clueless abi??....

Day's wat happens when u don't av facts to back up ur argument

OfficialJayy:
I shouldn't really be responding to this post, I swear

All those european teams you mentioned, tell me which one of them that played in the last euros.. you only see those teams during qualifiers and not euros itself..

How can you really compare copa to euros sef in terms of difficulty.. first, you play lesser matches to win copa america compared to euros... and secondly the top teams in copa are brazil, chile, uruguay and argentina.. since you started watching football, tell me how many teams outside these four to have won copa america

Infact, check fifa rankings and tell me how many american teams you would see in the top 30..

When it comes to euros, I can list like 15 different teams that are favourites to win the competition and portugal would not be among them...

Lol, u were d person who brought up Ronaldo's international goal scoring ratio...av u forgotten so soon?...
Now I'm explaining to u y he has those goals and u are vexing..
Below is the FIFA Rankin as of june dis year...and six out of the 10 conmebol countries are in top 20...lol...u see urself now?

Imagine 10 strong teams are fighting for a trophy and 55 teams comprising strong and weak also fighting for a trophy....reason am na...


"since you started watching football, tell me how many teams outside these four to have won copa america"
Simply because it's very difficult

Don't all euro countries play qualifiers before advancing to d main competition??...or do they exclude Portugal from qualifiers??

My point still remains, it's easier to score in euro than in conmebol

OfficialJayy:
6 ballon d'or does not save messi from being a flop for his country.. so you think messi that said he would exchange all his ballon d'or for a trophy with argentina is a fool abi

I said copa america is less difficult to win than euros, you disagreed, so I asked you to pick ten good teams in copa america.. instead of you to list out teams, you are here saying trash... is it not the same copa america where they invite teams from other continent(eg qatar from asia) just to complete the number of teams in the comp

you even mentioned Paraguay n mexico.. what's their respective position on fifa rankings right now.. and tell me how many wc trophies they have.. oga if you have nothing to say, take a chill pill and rest.. goodnight

Oga listen, Messi said he'd trade his balon d'Ors for a world cup trophy....not just any international trophy ..
And last i checked, Ronaldo has never seen a world cup final.

"I said copa america is less difficult to win than euros, you disagreed, so I asked you to pick ten good teams in copa america"

First offs, how many teams are in Conmebol?.... 12 teams only unless outsiders are invited...still, there are never more than 16 teams..out of those 16, ders Brazil, Uruguay, Colombia, Mexico, chile, peru, Ecuador, Paraguay, Venezuela, Ecuador....how easy is it to score against these teams??

Now, lets look at euro
55 teams play a qualifier, and 24 teams qualify ..
Out of those 55 are Faroe Islands, san marino, Andorra, Liechtenstein, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Czechia, Bosnia, Malta, Montenegro, Albania, latvia. Check FIFA Rankings for the position of these teams

Common sense shud tell us dat the more the teams, the more the goals

Do I also need to remind u dat the above teams are Ronaldo's favourites for scoring hattricks....
So, wen I tell u scoring in euro is easier than Conmebol, don't argue with me.

OfficialJayy:
Modric is a midfielder, and you dont judge players like them based on goals, unlike messi who is a forward and should be judged based on his goals and assists..

unlike messi,,, zidane, de lima, pele n maradona all won the wc when they won the best player of the tournament and they performed consistently throughout the tournament.. you dont give consolation prizes to winners na..

but wait oo, are you seriously comparing messi to those guys in terms of international football??

Lol, dis guy u no wan gree... I'll keep giving u stats till u calm down..

Zidane, how come he won world cup golden ball in 2005 even afta losing d final??...tell me o...was it also a consolation prize for zidane??...

And pls explain to me, wat are midfielders judged by wen they give them the awards??...since forwards are judged by goals and assists

Ok, u said Messi is a forward and shud be judged based on his goals and assists.... it's obvious u didn't watch the world cup...

Semi finals, Messi setup di maria for the goal..
Quarter final, Messi orchestrated the early goal...

I know u'l doubt...the pictures below wil help u clear ur doubts..

"wait oo, are you seriously comparing messi to those guys in terms of international football??"

Yes I am...Messi's record for Argentina will take years before it's broken...

Just accept, y'all Ronaldo fans are pained that he has never won an international competition award and keep gving silly excuses for his misfortune...

How can u say that competition awards are consolation prizes...guy, don't say it outside o...

OfficialJayy:
Modric's performance was consistent throughout the 2018 WC unlike messi, bros sentiments aside, Messi was a passenger during the knockout stages of the 2014 WC... everyone knew messi did not deserve that award, even maradona criticized the decision afterwards.. that award was a mere consolation, same as in 2015..

Ronaldo won the euros, so there was no reason to give him a consolation prize

U see aw u keep contradicting urself ..
Messi didn't score in the knockouts.....but Modric who u claim was consistent didn't score in the knockouts too....wer exactly are u driving at... I've pointed it out to u dat it's not always about the goals.....

Now u claim competition awards are consolation prizes just because Ronaldo has never won one....
So, it was consolation prize for zidane, maradonna, pele, Ronaldo de lima, etc... because these people all won the competitions and still collected the best player of the competition awards

OfficialJayy:
Pls, learn to observe before jumping into my mention

the initial poster said messi can destroy teams and win matches without the help of his team mates, so I wanna know why he hasnt been doing that to win the UCL in recent seasons

there's no way madrid would have won those 4 UCL if not because of cr7 would singlehandedly destroyed the likes of bayern, juve, wolfsburg, athletico, psg during the knockout stages..

Oga, Google the meaning of single-handedly first before we continue the argument

OfficialJayy:
If Messi can single handedly destroy defences and win games without his team mate, tell me why he hasn't been able to do the same with Argentina and win a single trophy... tell me why he did not destroy l'pool defence last season and juve defence the season before that..

Messi needs xavi, iniesta, and neymar to perform.. and that explains the reason why he doesn't have an international trophy and also the reason why he hasn't been able to win the UCL since those guys left

Oga, ur post just reeks of Jealousy...how can u claim that Messi needs Xavi, Iniesta and Neymar to perform....First offs, a single player can't play a football match.... every player needs a team mate...

What makes a great player is d ability to stand out in the midst of good players....
I can't blame Messi if he hasn't won a UCL since they left...winning the trophy requires a balanced team...Everyone knew Barcelona was seriously lacking and not playing well last year but still, Messi's master class took them to the semifinals and he won the balon d'Or.... That's wat makes a great player.. ....And if u tell me that Ronaldo won the UCLs for Madrid singlehandedly, then u're a joker....

My point is Messi has proven that he is a great player with or without Messi and Iniesta.... He's won 2 golden boots without them and a balon d'Or without them....can u say the same for Ronaldo since he left Madrid??

OfficialJayy:
U17 and Olympics?? seriously bro?? are you joking??

copa 2015? that was a mere consolation prize.. Messi is the star player of copa america, they will always do anything to make him happy, and him winning the prize simply despite missing a penalty and not winning the competition goes a long way to validate my point..

And bros, pls explain to me how Messi who did not score a single goal in the knockout stages of the 2014 WC won the best player over Muller who won the tournament, and scored more goals than Messi

Mr Pundit,
Explain to me how Modric won the golden ball over Griezmann who had more goals in the knockouts of 2018 world cup ??.....u think ts always about goals abi....Ronaldo fans ehn...I weak.....or will u tell me now that Modric didnt deserve to b the player of the tournament...... it's ur type that say that they robbed Ronaldo of the balon d'Or by giving it to Modric....

"copa 2015? that was a mere consolation prize.. Messi is the star player of copa america, they will always do anything to make him happy, and him winning the prize simply despite missing a penalty and not winning the competition goes a long way to validate my point.."

So, Ronaldo isnt a star player in Euro abi.... he's a Lingard there??...
Why didn't they console him by giving him player of the tournament wen Portugal won Euro??....u think u can just come and reap wer u didn't sow...

Player of the tournament awards are giving to the stand out players of the tournament, not just top scorers.....if not Kane wud av won the 2018 WC golden ball

OfficialJayy:
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Fake stats.. ronaldo has 262 assists while messi has 326... you can check it on Wikipedia...

I doubt if Suarez and ibra even has up to 200 assist sef

You doubt??.....are u optajose?

OfficialJayy:
Forwards tend to have the most assist?? pls tell me how many assist does the likes of ibra, raul, cavani, lewa, kane, de lima, pele have....

How can ronaldo who is very stingy(according to pessi fans) have over 200 assists?? as in imagine how many he would have if he wasnt stingy..

The Op even said MOST of cr7 assists were accidental.. like in 200 different occasions, cr7 played a shot that was destined for the top corner only for his team mate to stick out a leg and score the goal himself abi... lwkm

And bro, being a good creator equals creating a high number of goal scoring chances for ur team mates.. and only messi can top cr7 in this aspect

I'm sure u av seen it urself.... someone has already posted the picture showing players with most Goals and assists... obviously, their are no midfielders there....so, I dnt nid to prove to u again that forwards tend to av the most assists as they play closer to the goal post...

That doesn't make them Creators....

Go and find out players that have created most chances in the last 10 years...not assists
If u see Ronaldo in top 30, come and collect cold beer