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Fastestmanalive:
Exactly

This post is right , finally someone who sees that Ronaldo is better than Messi.

It's just the facts.

Messi has always been a phenomenal player I'll admit, but he will never be as good as Ronaldo.

The reason being that Ronaldo is taller and more physical, a luxury that Messi will never be able to afford, no matter how much he trains (Ronaldo trains longer than him btw).

That is why I think that Ronaldo is the best player of all time. After all, 450 goals in 438 matches is no easy feat.

And @OP if Ronaldo isn't a good creator, explain why he has the second most assists of all time (you can Google it if you don't believe me).

Seun

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Abeg let this thread reach FP

Pls

"Messi has always been a phenomenal player I'll admit, but he will never be as good as Ronaldo"

Listen to urself, Messi will never be as good as Ronaldo....I laugh...
Is it the Ronaldo that his teammates in Man U told him that Messi is better than him and all he could say was at least i have a better hair than him...

"The reason being that Ronaldo is taller and more physical, a luxury that Messi will never be able to afford, no matter how much he trains (Ronaldo trains longer than him btw). "

...Isn't it a Shame for Ronaldo??...he is taller and more physical, yet one small guy still overshadows him and has as much goals as he.....u think it's about height...
Ronaldo is much physical and yet he dives and falls at every slightest touch....
Do I need to explain to u how much Messi's physicality is underrated.....Man literally runs the entire field with defenders kicking him and he still manages to stay up...
FYI, if Ronaldo recieved half the tackles Messi receives, he'd av retired....take it or leave it

And good creators don't always equal good assisters....they are different.... Ronaldo isn't half the creator or playmaker KDB, Iniesta or Eriksen are yet he has more assists than three of them combined....so, the fact that Ronaldo has those assists doesn't make him a creator or playmaker...He can't swap roles with Pjanic..unless u Want doom for Juve....
My point is Forwards tend to have the most assists

Fastestmanalive:
Your analysis only takes place in 15 vs 19 matches

What I'm saying is that he scored 450 goals in his 438 total matches for real Madrid.

That's a goal ratio of 1.18 goals per match

That is the highest in history.

As for total goals scored

So yeah Ronaldo is the best.

Messi is undoubtedly good but he's not the best

As for the total goals scored

Age has nothing to do with it

Ronaldo is still the highest

If Messi were the best he would have closed the gap.

Na wa o, Ronaldo fans and false stats...1.18 goal ratio of Ronaldo isn't the highest in history.... don't come and be giving us lamba on Nairaland....Have u heard of Josef Bican?

obonujoker:
No time to answer any Pessi fan here

All we know is that Ronaldo would win the ballondor this year

Please if he doesn't win it, don't blame juve or sarri o...as u guys always do

OfficialJayy:
cr7 came to la liga 5years after Messi started playing there, about 2years after he left, Messi was still trying to break cr7 record for the most number of hat tricks scored in la liga.. and yet you say Messi is more prolific.. Wow

Yes Messi is more prolific....if u need explanation, kindly ask for it

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OfficialJayy:
The only reason why Messi has a better goals per game ratio is because cr7 played in england, compare their ratio in spain, lets see if messi comes close

Infact ehnn, tell Messi to come to england, lets see if he can score 50 goals in 50 apps

If you truly want to be fair, compare them under situations that are common to both e. g

Compare their goals per game ratio for their countries
Messi has 70 goals in 164apps while ronaldo has 109goals in 168apps

Compare their goals per game ratio in spain
Ronaldo has 311 goals in 292 apps in la liga while Messi has 441 in 489 apps..

Like I said earlier, Messi only has a better goals per game ratio because cr7 played in epl, I dont think there's any player in epl to have scored more goals than amount of games played due to the difficult and demanding nature of the league.. besides cr7 only started scoring goals for fun at around the time he won his first ballon d'or which was about 6 yrs after his debut..

Oga, stop giving us false stats....
Messi 70 goals in 138 caps
Ron, 99 goals in 164 caps
I don't want to go into details on how easier it is to score more goals in Euro than in Conmebol due to the more amount of teams in Euro(low Fifa Rankin teams).....


"If you truly want to be fair, compare them under situations that are common to both e. g"

"Compare their goals per game ratio in spain
Ronaldo has 311 goals in 292 apps in la liga while Messi has 441 in 489 apps.."


U see urself??..See how u are contradicting Urself...u are comparing Ronaldo's 9yrs in madrid right from 2009 to Messi's 15yrs in barca starting from 2005...how is this fair??..
Y not compare both of them right from when Ronaldo came to laliga till when he left....2009-2018...
Let me help u
2009-2018 in Laliga, Ronaldo 311 goals in 292 apps
................................., Messi. 329 goals in 309 apps....

Now do the maths and see who had the better ratio...

U added Messi's early career when he was still finding his foot and are using it to compare Ronaldo's peak 2009-2018....na wa o...

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Fastestmanalive:
Ronaldo/ Messi comparison


Ronaldo= Most goals
Second most assists

Messi= second most goals
most assists

Goals win games so Ronaldo wins.

It's not a coincidence that he won real Madrid 4 champions League titles.

Small pikin talk

It simple, the pundits' judgements are not based on sentiments or preference....only Nigerians judge by preference.....
Listen to commentators, they all always label Messi the best player in the world and the greatest of all time....
But when referring to Ronaldo, they never say he is the best player in the world or the greatest.... they always say 'he is one of the best players in the world, or he is up there among the greats'.... commentators give the best verdicts....they see the game more than most of us do

iszyboy:
Please Messi is out of equation because messi will go trophyless this year

Typical Nigerian fan!.....wat did Madrid win in 2013 to earn Ronaldo the balon d'Or??.....u think ts always abt trophies

Number 10 can be done. Messi only needs to score in 1 min to equal the record

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ALEXAPLAYME:
They are all hypocrite when their useless goat did this all of them hide for their cages

Why does everyone here speak with hate and not reasoning ...
If Messi had done this in the penalty box, it's very certain that VAR would review it if in anyway it impedes the opponent's chances of scoring...but dis was done on the touchline and was seen as a mistake...u probably dint even see d match....

On the contrary, Ramos did this in the penalty box....I didn't watch the match.....but If in anyway the ball was coming towards the guy, then it should av bin a penalty

FergieRaww:
Going by your maths 12yrs ago is what?! 08' right ... bruh we've gotten 4 ligas if at that (back to back in 06/07 - 07/08 plus the 11/12 and 16/17 , this will definitely make it 5 with this

let's not go further into how we've achieved 4 UCLs in that same time frame while you guys got your as5 served to you

Oga, i don't understand d maths u're trying to do with Madrid's league titles ova d last 12yrs....but listen o

In those years u mentioned(since '08), how many champions League and how many League titles did Barca win....
Barca has achieved more if only u can open ur eyes and see....
Barca's- 7 league titles, 3 champions League, 12 domestic cups

Madris-3 league titles, 4 champions League, 6 domestic cups

Dis news again

Hezzyluv:
The longest distance goal he scored in England was against Arsenal

RONALDO Is the most complete player I have ever seen. He score goals with both legs, at times, u don't even know the difference between his right and left leg." the guy shoot na thunder" he even has leg on his head,

Bicycle kick nko?

suspend for air nko?

All these things u mentioned, are they qualities of a complete player or a complete goalscorer

Drop sentiments, hushpuppi fresh pass

SIONKPO1:
seriously,Sarri is a terrible coach,Juventus may not win any silverware this season

When ronaldo scores, sarri isn't a bad coach o....but when they lose, it's all Sarri

If this post doesn't reach FP ehn

Where's harvey elliot?

Enwhen:
OBO is CR7...STARboy is MESSI...LION OF AFRICA TO THE WORLD

How old are you?

chiboy1116:
I no understand , wetin Ronaldo de play ? Pesn wey 40 percent of him Goals na pk , with just one assist

I dey tell u, i blame him fans

RealEzee:
when did van diyk start playing football compared to CR7?
One season and all of a sudden he has an opinion, mtcheeew.

But is his opinion true or not....
Shud Ronaldo av finished above Mane?

RealEzee:
who's van diyk?

Wen did u start watching ball?

NigeriaB:
Once again, Ronaldo has been denied the chance of winning. These People simply hate Ronaldo.

The other time, it was given to Modric instead of Ronaldo.

I hate Nonsense!

Pesin wey neva escape Lyon....

Na wa o... what are the players playing for then, this year.

Mr @jokerman.....If u really want anyone to take u serious, summarise everything in those post to your own write up.....You dont expect us to start reading each of those shit ..
I'm one to always come out for arguments, but ders no point listening to someone who screen grabbed someone elses opinion on twitter

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schurley:
I don't disapprove of other Madridsta huge talent and contribution, those player mentioned are genius in their own right.... Buh the facts are there for everyone to to see (Highest goal and assist in champions and laliga history_Cr7)...

Does any one of dem come close in terms of goals and assist even for once in their tremble champions league glory?? Appreciate a genius when you see one.

your continuous emphasy on Ronaldo scoring ability in Madrid makes me wonder if he is less a player in terms of assist and chances provided .... I like it when you Messi fans calls Cr7 penaldo, tapnaldo nd co, conveniently throwing blind eyes on CR7 superb play making ability. Don't forget Cr7 have the highest assist in Madrid nd Champions league history

Gracias

"Does any one of dem come close in terms of goals and assist even for once in their tremble champions league glory?? Appreciate a genius when you see one.".

....oga Listen.....u can't compare a midfielder, goalkeeper or defender with a forward... dia jobs are different....let me now ask u, can Ronaldo do the job of a goalkeeper, can he defend, can he create key passes or control the game like a midfielder..??.....so because none of dem scored as much as Ronaldo makes him above every oda player in his team...SMH for u....I think they need to bring back d years of goalkeepers, midfielders and defenders winning d balon dor....at least u saw it with ur eyes in 2018 wen Modric won d balon dor dat It's not always about goals and assist...u and I know dat It's d rivalry of Messi and Ronaldo dat has made other players seem less appreciated.... as a Barcelona fan, in as much as i would always want Messi to win d balon dor ova Ronaldo, i can't help but admit dat der wer times wen Iniesta shud av won it...

"Don't forget Cr7 have the highest assist in Madrid nd Champions league history"...

Does e also av d highest saves in Madrid history or d
Highest keypasses or d highest tackles or d highest passes...if someone players hadn't done these for him, Ronaldo wudnt av bin d highest in all these things u mentioned...
My point is, please don't ever say dat a player is above his teammates or his teammates don't come close to him in ability....
In Barcelona, Iniesta was as good as Messi but not much of a goalscorer...do u now expect me to compare Iniesta with Messi? ... think about it

So, please come back to the topic...d topic is comparing Messi with Ronaldo....u compare forwards with forwards not a player superior over his teammates

schurley:
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Ronaldo goal ratio wasn't very good in Epl, yes....I think the question now should be why was his goal scoring record outrageous when he arrived Madrid? I know you will attach this to the quality of the player he played with in Madrid, or is central attacking position in Madrid. Don't forget he also had loads of star and world class player in Manchester, Also he didn't started playing as No.9 in Madrid in his first few years there.... Your guess is right as mine, scoring in laliga is damn easy.

I'm not disputing the fact that team work ain't relevant to team success and achievement, the genius and phenomenal of a player or two is key to winning titles such as the Ucl_Bayern and City are classic examples. Attributing Madrid champions league success to the coming of Kroos, Modric and Bale completely reeks of sentiment and jealousy... I stand to be corrected, during the years of Madrid dominance in Europe, no Madrid player, i repeat no player! ever come close to Ronaldo contribution and effort in winning those trophy_both goals and assists.

Oga, u re still not getting d point, m not disputing d fact dat Ron is a good goalscorer.... Ronaldo is a good scorer and e simply got to his peak. Der are alot of scorers wu came to Laliga and flopped... D point is if u are a good Scorer, it will show as soon as u get to ur peak...Kun Agüero had a poorer goal ratio in Laliga dan he has now in d premier League..... young Thierry Henry cudnt didn't score many goals in d weak ligue 1( same league 1 Mbappe is bossing). But today, Thierry Henry is one of d best goalscorers in Epl history.....

"Attributing Madrid champions League success to the coming of Kroos, Modric and Bale completely reeks of sentiment and jealousy"
U sef check am, from 2009-2013, Real Madrid won just 3 trophies....but from 2014-2018 wen those players arrived, Real Madrid won 13 trophiea
So, wat is d magic there??...will u tell me dat all of a sudden, from 2014, Ronaldo entad beast mode??...Ronaldo has always been a beast, and wit d arrival of players and coach wu complimented his beastliness, Madrid was able to achieve dat feat....so, stop tellin me dat Ronaldo alone gave madrid dia european invincibility

...And also, all u Ronaldo lovers will never see or admit d efforts of oda players.....Is it because, dey don't score goals as much as Ronaldo?? Or wat is d effort u are talking about??.. it's pple like u dat say Modric didnt deserve balón d or 2018 or Ronaldo deserved it...Thank God for fifapro world 11....was there any year dat Madrid won champions League with Ronaldo dat u didnt see either of kroos or Modric in the fifapro xi?? as u re claiming dat Ronaldo is a lone wolf
You all will never acknowledge dat Madrid played 4 Ronaldo but will always b quick to shout dat Barca plays 4 Messi....I understand, it's love blindness...
I'm talking of the same Ronaldo who complained about Juve's midfield not playing for him

schurley:
Forget your long grammar who had a better goal ratio in Spain... Ronaldo or Messi?

I beg to differ if Ronaldo had started his football career in Spain his goal tally would have been more astronomical..... Why do you think his scoring rate skyrocketed while in Spain? do the maths urself

You think winning the champions league repeatedly is an easy feat?....even the seasonal mega signing of Messi's team find it hard winning since the departure of Neymar, bro quit whinning!

Oga listen...
What you should understand is that there are phases in a footballer's career....you can't just start playing professionally and start banging 30 goals or more in a season.
You start as a prospect before u reach your peak....Messi started his senior career in Barcelona...u don't expect him to start banging 50goals from Day1, there are phases to that....
My point is, Ronaldo came to Spain as a footballer in his peak, one would expect him to score much Goals as he was an established goal scorer already.....
To prove to u dat Messi also got to his peak at that period of 2009-2017 wen Ronaldo arrived at Madrid, Check their goals dat period (2009-2017) messi scored more goals dan ronaldo..... Messi's 472 to Ronaldo's 450 with a very close goal ratio of Messi's 0.99 to Ronaldo's 1.01....you can't deny, Ronaldo's ratio wasn't very good at Man utd..

The winning of a champions League isn't an easy feat, No doubt....but you must acknowledge d effort of d oda player's....Modric, Kroos, Bale.....dey came in and together with Ronaldo helped Real Madrid achieve dat feat.....you know how many champions Leagues Ronaldo had with Madrid before these players stepped in

Jokerman:
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Kaka's ultimate team of all time

Kaka 2019: Ronaldo over Messi
Kaka March 2020: Messi over Ronaldo
Kaka April 2020: Puts Ronaldo in all time team, buh doesn't put Messi...

Seems Kaka is new Pele

Dis Boy.....dis Kaka Team is way back from 2015.... sports accounts are just retweeting it.... Always try to post Authentic news

Jokerman:
A laliga Champion to an European, UNL, EPL, laliga and serieA champion??

Think again bro

You want us to retrogress on this issue...I aint joining u....sorry....I already argued enuf wit u in d past weeks....

Just do urself d favour of going to page 16 of dis thread and reading Mrcuteking's post.....it should go a long way in helping u correct d mindset u av now

Jokerman:
You want me to accept Messi is the greatest player because of his dribbles... Isn't it?

His dribbles kwa, Nna eh..

Messi is the better player
Messi has achieved more....gracias