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BusinessRe: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by TenQ: 12:32pm On Jun 25
lawani:
People die when the body gets old or when they are involved in an accident or another kind of untimely death.
Spirits are living things and they can't exist without the food they produce while on incarnations just like human beings can not exist without eating and drinking
If I get you correctly, the purpose of existence is to EAT food!

What happens when a person stops reincarnating: does he cease to exist?

How do malevolent spirits eat as they never become embodied?
BusinessRe: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by TenQ: 10:28am On Jun 25
lawani:
After my explanation, do you now see that your question amounts to asking someone why they are working? They are working to feed themselves and family. The spirits incarnate to feed themselves. That is the primary reason
Spirits incarnate to feed themselves!?
So, why do people die AND leave their food source?
Does it means that spirits cannot exist without physical food?


Ayam not understanding!
FamilyRe: A Would Be Bride Shows Off Her Family's Bride List by TenQ: 9:08am On Jun 25
Stephen0mozzy:
There's a Cow there Sir. Not just any cow...but a WHOLE COW.
It is not a normal Yoruba bride price list. A COW is not a normal item in the list
BusinessRe: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by TenQ: 9:07am On Jun 25
lawani:
.But you didn't know any of it or you wouldn't have described reincarnation the way you described it.

Again the primary purpose of reincarnation or incarnation in the first instance is to generate spirit food for spirit sustenance in heaven. I have repeated this a few times already
Because I know about reincarnation, my conclusion is that it is one of the most stupid Theology in existence. And to prove that, I asked you a very BASIC question


What is the objective and logical PURPOSE of Reincarnation?
FamilyRe: A Would Be Bride Shows Off Her Family's Bride List by TenQ: 6:25am On Jun 25
Stephen0mozzy:
Congratulations to her, and well done to the family if they really modified the list 🤗 - but she no trust the guy to buy her stuff after the marriage? You know how much the wife items section go cost? 🤣

One whole maluu and iya goat don near or pass 1.5m

I think the South South still has the cheapest bride list - God bless my babe family 😁
The list is still quite expensive for the Yoruba. Yes, a goat may be in the list but certainly not a Cow.

The problem is that bride price list is extremely subjective. They bill you according to how well they think you can pay
BusinessRe: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by TenQ: 6:17am On Jun 25
lawani:
Spirits don't know the integrity of a foetus and that is why we have iim beciles. When the foetus turns out to be an im becile, they often stay since they are still able to harvest food. They will get food but not as much as a fit person. It depends on the spirit, it can stay or choose to go back

If a pregnancy is aborted the spirit will go back to queue. A spirit can even cause self abortion which happens when they have chosen the line they want to come through and the woman is trying to award the pregnancy to another person.

You can die at anytime which does not change the primary purpose of incarnation that I already mentioned. If you are enrolled in a university it is not a must you graduate

If you die young, you take whatever quantity of food you have generated as a spirit like that
I know all these, but I wasn't asking you for how reincarnation takes place. .

My question was about the PURPOSE or WHY or the OBJECTIVE of Reincarnation.


here again is the question i've asked.

What is the objective and logical PURPOSE of Reincarnation?
BusinessRe: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by TenQ: 8:56pm On Jun 24
lawani:
You chose your parents but I don't even think DJ Cuppy's Dad was very rich before she was born but he was ok
The Father of of Femi Otedola (the grandfather of DJ Cuppy) was a former Governor of Lagos state and a business man.


lawani:
If one were born im becile, then that incarnation would not be eventful but not a waste still because the incarnation will still be able to generate food though not much for it's spirit. It isn't a big deal. The spirit will get food but not plentiful.
May I ask you this question:
What is the PURPOSE of Reincarnation for an slowpoke?
What is the PURPOSE of Reincarnation for a child aborted by the mother?
What is the PURPOSE of Reincarnation for a baby who died as a child?


You still haven't answered the question! because Reincarnation is one of the most illogical explanation of existence!
BusinessRe: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by TenQ: 8:51pm On Jun 24
lawani:
There is a civilization of spirits in heaven and their primary reason of being incarnated is to generate food for sustenance in heaven. There are other reasons that may come along after the primary reason

For example your primary reason for going to school is to upgrade yourself to be more relevant in the society but there are other reasons
You avoided my question

May I ask you this question:
What is the PURPOSE of Reincarnation?
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Permit Polygamy In The New Testament? by TenQ: 8:49pm On Jun 24
Dtruthspeaker:
I am not calling you names. I am just pointing out that you are doing a Wrong and asking me to join you to do a wrong in refusing to obey the laws of debate while asking me to fall for the offence of the fallacy of reversal of burden of proof.

This is not righteous and Christianly.

The rules of debate state that you must justify the claim you make and i have been asking you to explain how you "admit and agree that cheating is adultery, but you do not think that a married person who now marries another person (polygamy) is guilty of cheating?

So, therefore resolve how this guy below is not guilty of cheating (adultery) because he wants to marry his co-adulterer?

Trustedapparel:
i am a married man [/b]with 2kids but their is one big lady that I met she loves me very much ....[b]since I Bleep that lady I can't get my eyes of her ....I have been thinking about her since after the marathon sex we hard last month... honestly I want to make her my second wife ...

And you have been dodging, if truly you are Christian and righteous you ought to abide by the rules of debate. So answer the question above.
You are waisting your time because if you do not do the needful by engaging with my questions and stop avoiding points that betray your position, there is NOTHING to discuss with a person who is wrongly interpreting the scriptures!

By the Scriptures, You are THOROUGHLY IRREVOCABLY Wrong
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Permit Polygamy In The New Testament? by TenQ: 5:39pm On Jun 24
Dtruthspeaker:
You are the one being fraudulent and behaving like pagans do.

The rules of debate and fallacy are very clear on making sure arguments are clean, pure and True. And I have pointed out that your asking me to answer your question whilst you were still trying to defend your doctrine amounts to the fallacy of the reversal of burden of proof.

So, if deed you are a Christian and ybelieve that your doctrine is not a lie, then why are you trying to committing the fallacy of reversal of burd. of Proof instead of you to justify your claim by yourself?

If indeed, you stand for Truth and light, then answer the query that came out of your response and stop dodging and running.

you admit and agree that cheating is adultery, but you do not think that a married person who now marries another person (polygamy) is guilty of cheating?

So, therefore resolve how this guy below is not guilty of cheating (adultery) because he wants to marry his co-adulterer?

Trustedapparel:
i am a married man with 2kids but their is one big lady that I met she loves me very much ....since I Bleep that lady I can't get my eyes of her ....I have been thinking about her since after the marathon sex we hard last month... honestly I want to make her my second wife ...

Oya, say the Truth here and shame the devu if you indeed are a Christian and one who speaks the Truth
I didn't call you names.

You are WRONG in capital letters. Humble yourself to learn.


Again, stop wasting your time with this if INDEED you intend to discuss Scriptures.

Go back and do the needful and engage properly.

The letters kill!
BusinessRe: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by TenQ: 5:36pm On Jun 24
erniok:
Oga, there is effort in grace . It's just not what you laboured for (wage). You have a role to play in grace. If not not so, Paul would not say "if you believe(effort). If you do not receive (effort) grace, you won't get it. Grace has been planned by God.

Luck on the other hand is not planned for by you. Just like getting on a plane and finding out the next passenger is otedola and you've been making efforts to see him without success. It was a "chanced" meeting you had no role in how it happened. You can decide to seize the moment or ignore it.

Like I said earlier, God controls chance/luck as the bible shows.
Tell me
What effort did DJ Cuppy put into becoming a Billionaire?

Do you think its only hardworking that made Sha'Carri Richardson the best sprinter or Tiwa Savage an acclaimed Musician, or Funke Akindele a successful actor?

What if each were born with Down Syndrome?
What if, each died in the Womb?
What if each had a mental problem?

The most hardworking human beings are the poorest and most Wretched in the world.

Part of Grace is ABILITY to Work and Work Hard!
BusinessRe: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by TenQ: 5:28pm On Jun 24
lawani:
You will understand being born into any family isn't luck if you understand reincarnation and the fact that we are spirits. Spirits only incarnate in lines that they have right in. Your children are incarnates of the spirits of your ancestors or that of your wife, they can also be incarnates of members of your spiritual family in heaven. It is a close knit thing which isn't determined by luck. Your children chose you. You didn't choose them nor were they products of luck
Reincarnation is one of the most stupid Theology in the Universe.


May I ask you this question:
What is the PURPOSE of Reincarnation?
BusinessRe: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by TenQ: 4:09pm On Jun 24
erniok:
Grace has design and was planned by God as against luck which happens unpredictably. The are 2 entirely different terms. If you say"God controls luck", I wouldn't argue but saying they are same is just n̈onsense
Grace is what was given to you without your effort.

DJ Cuppy is a billionaire because she found herself to be the daughter of Mr Femi Otedola.

Luck is still grace given to you when you assume it has nothing tp do with God's gift.
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Permit Polygamy In The New Testament? by TenQ: 4:03pm On Jun 24
Dtruthspeaker:
K

I have no problem when issues are narrowed and pinned down. And see you are confirming what I said that knowing you are wrong and that you cannot validly defend your doctrine is why you are use all this antics of making issues outside the main argument to dodge and avoid answering the questions that came out of your statement. This is fraudulent and it shows that you are not a Christian and that you do not support Truth and light for i already told you that the Fallacy of reversal of burden of proof is what stops me from answering your questions.

AI Overview +4
The fallacy of reversal of burden of proof (also known as shifting the burden) occurs when the person making a claim avoids providing evidence and instead demands their opponent disprove it.

Description: Making a claim that needs justification, then demanding that the opponent justifies the opposite of the claim

So, it is wrong for you to demand that i skip the process and and answer your questions.

SA Christian does the right thing and so if you say you are Christian then do the right by attending to the questions i have asked you to explain how

you admit and agree that cheating is adultery, but you do not think that a married person who now marries another person (polygamy) is guilty of cheating?

So, therefore resolve how this guy below is not guilty of cheating (adultery) because he wants to marry his co-adulterer?

Trustedapparel:
i am a married man with 2kids but their is one big lady that I met she loves me very much ....since I Bleep that lady I can't get my eyes of her ....I have been thinking about her since after the marathon sex we hard last month... honestly I want to make her my second wife ...
You are wrong and waisting your time.
Go back and do the needful and engage properly.

The letters kill!
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Permit Polygamy In The New Testament? by TenQ: 5:59am On Jun 24
I will do exactly like you here: choose only what I want to respond to

Dtruthspeaker:
Your response reveals that even the basic ground of this issue which I overlooked is in dispute which is you believe and
Even you admit here that you overlooked issues in this conversation. Those overlooked issues you refused to deal with has caused you this problem.





Please dont complain because the Above is what you get when you cherry pick what to engage with




Again, go AND
Quote me properly in full and then engage with my questions just like I answered your own Question. Otherwise, there is zero point of continuing the conversation.
BusinessRe: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by TenQ: 5:50am On Jun 24
erniok:
Really? Cherry picking in action right?
Did tou see UNPREDICTABLE EVENT in your preferred definition and then luck? And my objective is not to deny the use of word LUCK

The context meaning is that you do not have any control of what happens.

What you call Luck is what we call Grace BECAUSE it is SOMETHING given by God without any input from you
BusinessRe: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by TenQ: 10:14pm On Jun 23
erniok:
I understand the concept of grace but chance in that passage you quoted is another word for luck.
Chance mean UNPREDICTABLE
i.e.
You have no control over the outcome of your situations
BusinessRe: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by TenQ: 10:05pm On Jun 23
erniok:
I understand the concept of grace but chance in that passage you quoted is another word for luck.
Chance mean UNPREDICTABLE i e. You have no control over the outcome of your situations
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Permit Polygamy In The New Testament? by TenQ: 8:50pm On Jun 23
TenQ:
I don't seem to get your question!
Kindly restate it.



I will answer your question and then you answer mine. Is this fair.

TenQ doesn't avoid questions even by the staunchest Atheist or Muslim.
Dtruthspeaker:
Tenbro,. This is just plain fraud man. You are just trying to use this non issue of cutting off irrelevant issues to run from argument.

So, it is you who cannot defend your doctrine for by virtue of the separation of irrelevancies from the main issue, i have responded to response that

"you admit and agree that cheating is adultery, but you do not think that a married person who now marries another person (polygamy) is guilty of cheating?

As in do you say that this guy below is not guilty of cheating (adultery) because he wants to marry his co-adulterer?

Trustedapparel:
I am a married man with 2kids but their is one big lady that I met she loves me very much ....since I Bleep that lady I can't get my eyes of her ....I have been thinking about her since after the marathon sex we hard last month... honestly I want to make her my second wife ...

So, you are the one running away because you obviously planned on using the darkness of confusion of to make your argument instead of stepping into the light of clearity and accuracy where Truth can be undisputably seen which is what I am doing in separating non issues and irrelevancies from the main argument.

I have already explained why I am not answering your questions that before all those questions is the foundational questions i have asked you. And rather than answer it, WHICH YOU LOOKED LIKE YOU WERE GOING TO ANSWER IT, you then asked for me to make the question clearer, you rather raised up another foundational issue prompting me to ask you

So, if indeed you are a Christian, step into the light for scrutiny. You are just running away and come not into the light because you don't want your judgements to be made known. It is the ivus who run from the light . That is what you yourself told Muslims when they make antics that show that they are running.
Sorry!
Quote me properly in full and engage with my questions just like I answered your own Question. Otherwise, there is zero point of continuing the conversation.

Again:
I cannot go on discussing out of context where you
1. Choose only what you want
2. Avoid whatever will betray your position
3. Deliberately choose not to respond to questions because answering them make your position indefensible.


I am sorry, I do not deal in emotionalism with respect to the scriptures: if you cannot defend your position, be humble to learn!

Sorry: those are my terms!

I don't condone escapists in debates!
Your hypocrisy is made glaring for everyone to see.

Now, you press forward with other questions expecting me to answer it WHILE you avoid answering my own questions.
BusinessRe: Tony Elumelu Sparks Debate After Attributing Billionaire Success To “luck” by TenQ: 7:58pm On Jun 23
Dpsychologist:
Source:https://www.vanguardngr.com/2026/06/how-i-became-successful-tony-elumelu-reveals/
It is not luck but grace.

Eccl 9:11:
"I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favor to men of skill; but time and chance happens to them all."



Grace is having the right qualities and being in the right places and crossing path with your helpers at the best possible time in your life.
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Permit Polygamy In The New Testament? by TenQ: 4:47pm On Jun 23
Dtruthspeaker:
Please, forgive me, i cannot obey it for i have explained that it is of necessity that that area of dispute is always made INDISPUTABLY CLEAR For Truth to shine Bright and for irrelevant arguments to be kept away from it so as not to cause distractions and mixing of unnecessary arguments with the main issue of dispute.

And if you are a Christian you would always want Truth to be made clear for Truth loves light but lies and confusion love darkness.. So as a Christian you don't want confusion in this search/verification of Truth. So please support me. So. This has to be cut off as it is not the area of dispute.
I am sorry then.

I cannot go on discussing out of context where you
1. Choose only what you want
2. Avoid whatever will betray your position
3. Deliberately choose not to respond to questions because answering them make your position indefensible.


I am sorry, I do not deal in emotionalism with respect to the scriptures: if you cannot defend your position, be humble to learn!

Have a nice day.

2Cor 3:6:
"Who also has made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter kills, but the spirit gives life."
Foreign AffairsRe: Parastoo Ahmadi Sentenced To 74 Lashes For Singing Online Without Hijab by TenQ: 12:52pm On Jun 22
Expanse2020:
So when they choose to rule so they must not follow..
Just like the xtians don't follow the book 🤣🤣 and list ...

Just like lieing that Adam was the reason where suffering and we he enherit his sins,🤣🤣🤣
And what else lie you ppl use on yourself
They follow the religion of Mohammed and not Allah.

Allah says: No compulsion in religion.
Mohammed says: If anyone leave his religion, kill him.

Tell me anywhere in the Qur'an Allah asked you to flog anyone who did not put on hijab?

It doesn't exist because Shari'a is the law of Mohammed and not Allah!
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Permit Polygamy In The New Testament? by TenQ: 10:15am On Jun 22
I will appreciate that you don't cut off my text again.
Dtruthspeaker:
My question is, from Exodus 23:7, we can see that God will never uphold wickedness. And adultery is wickedness to a spouse.

So, how can a person who does not just cheat on his wife (adultery) but even now goes as far as marrying his co-adulterer, be sinless?

Is such a person sinless?i[/b]
Exod 23:7:
"Keep far from a false matter, and do not kill the innocent and righteous; for I will not justify the wicked."



From the scriptures below, we can show clearly that Adultery is wickedness Mark 7:21–23, 1 Corinthians 6:9–10 and Galatians 5:19-21


BUT, through your biased INTERPOLATIONS
Suddenly, you moved from CHEATING on one's spouse (which is clearly ADULTERY) and connecting it with POLYGAMY!
How!?
Did Abraham cheat on Sarah?
You wouldn't answer this question!


And you refused to answer my first relevant question

A. If Polygamy is a SIN, do you admit that
1. David died in sin
2. Israel (Jacob) died in sin
3. Abraham died in sin (he even had a concubine)
It is a YES or NO answer!



Your question assume that Polygamy is a Sin of Adultery making your questions presumptuous.
Is such a person sinless?
The Answer
It depends.
If he married a new wife without the knowledge or consent of his Wife, it is ADULTERY
However,
Of he married the new wife with the consent and knowledge of his Wife, it is NOT Adultery.


Again: Did Abraham cheat on Sarah?
You wouldn't answer this question!



So, again, Kindly show me where Polygamy is classed as Adultery anywhere in the Bible?
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Permit Polygamy In The New Testament? by TenQ: 9:34am On Jun 22
Your Position:
It is a SIN of Adultery for a man to have more than one Wife.

My Position:
It is NOT a sin if a man have more than one wife, However Polygamy is NOT God's ideal plan for Marriage as stated by Jesus.

Your take:
TenQ should first admit that Polygamy is a SIN first, then you can answer his basic Questions.

Is this LOGICAL?

Dtruthspeaker:
Yes, i am restating my position and it is a question, and thought you could have given me a reason valid answer that would have cleared out the question.

So are you saying that you cannot give a Truthful answer to that simple question which is the foundation of polygamy because of your bias? As a Christian you are bound to give Truthful answers to questions given to you. So, please answer this foundational question and declare the Truth and shame the Liars who made this false doctrine.

By Exodus 23:7, If God will never justify the wicked, then how can you say then that a person who cheated on his wife (adultery) and even goes as far as marrying his co-adulterer, is sinless?
I don't seem to get your question!
Kindly restate it.



I will answer your question and then you answer mine. Is this fair.

TenQ doesn't avoid questions even by the staunchest Atheist or Muslim.
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Permit Polygamy In The New Testament? by TenQ: 9:21am On Jun 22
Dtruthspeaker:
I answer point to point aka area of concentration. So that nobody can deny or lie against their words and the point they made vs the response I gave to those points, especially when those points are non issues.

So cutting out the part makes it accurate and easier to settle them away from the main issue of argument as those points raised are usually distractions meant to divert attention from the main subject of argument



The thread shows that i already told you that I will not address those questions because other issues must FIRST be settled before them. So., you are putting the cart before the horse

So, by now you can see that i am addressing the horse before your cart of questions, so all these are distractive non issues. Let's go back to the main issue
The logically of your position doesn't even bother you.


In a debate:
You want your opponent to admit concession (through blackmail) even before you justify your position.


Does this stance make sense to you?


You won't answer my questions because it betrays your lack of cognition of Doctrinal Truths.

You even justify cropping off issues that worry you in other to state your points and you think it is normal.

Cutting off aspects you do not like in a discussion is deception and avoidance of context of discussion!
Foreign AffairsRe: Fuel Sales Halted In Occupied Crimea As Ukraine Targets Oil Facilities by TenQ: 9:13am On Jun 22
Russia indeed made a big blunder by invading Ukraine.

They underestimated Zelensky who they thought was a CLOWN that will run away on hearing that Putin was Coming.


They underestimated Ukraine that they would love to be Like Belarus who cannot do anything for themselves without asking Putin
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Permit Polygamy In The New Testament? by TenQ: 9:06am On Jun 22
Dtruthspeaker:
In other words, even though you see yor doctrine is unfounded, you choose to believe it? How are you different from the Muslims you attack?

Did you not read "Keep thee far from a false matter; and the innocent and righteous slay thou not: for I will not justify the wicked? Exodus 23:7

If God will never justify the wicked, then how can you say then that a person who cheated on his wife (adultery) and even goes as far as marrying his co-adulterer, is sinless? (Even your law courts recognise this sin and called it the crime of bigamy()

So, if sinners themselves have identified that it is a sin, how do you now imagine that God Who is Holy, would Say that it is not a sin?
All you are doing is restating your position.

All I have done after stating my position is to ASK you Questions.

Why are you terrified of answering them if your doctrine is correct.

1Pet 3:15:
"But sanctify the Lord God in your own hearts, and always be prepared to give an answer to anyone who asks you the reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and reverence;"








AGAIN!


You have chosen to be EVASIVE by not answering my question simply because your doctrine CANNOT stand scrutiny!


THE QUESTIONS!
A. If Polygamy is a SIN, do you admit that
1. David died in sin
2. Israel (Jacob) died in sin
3. Abraham died in sin (he even had a concubine)

It is a YES or NO answer!

B. Let me give you a challenge:
1. Find me just ONE Sin in the New Testament that is NOT a sin in the Old Testament!

2. Find me just ONE Moral Sin in the Old Testament that is NOT a sin in the New Testament!



C. Help me solve this practical problem
Alhaji Anti-christian with ALL his four wives got born again. He had married five times but divorced his first wife before marrying his last wife to maintain four wives. Each of his five wives have three children each.
They all come to your church and you are the pastor.


What is your Christ based advice
1. To Alhaji Anti-christian
2. To each of the current four wives
3. To the first wife.




The only reason you won't answer the Questions is because, your Theology breaks down under scrutiny.

2Cor 3:6:
"Who also made us competent as ministers of the New Covenant; not of the letter, but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life."
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Permit Polygamy In The New Testament? by TenQ: 8:54am On Jun 22
Are you TERRIFIED of the TRUTH!?
Cropping off the parts of my post seems to show that you seem to be afraid of something

BTW
Nowhere did I justify Polygamy nor stated that it is not wrong: otherwise, why would Jesus bring us back to the Ideal!

But you chose to hear what you want to hear.
Dtruthspeaker:
The thread shows that your belief in the doctrine that polygamy is not wrong is/was being tested and you could not found it as you started dodging and trying to nove post to divorce whereas, it is about polygamy. And when you could no longer dodge, you decide to resort to the fallacy of reversing the burden of proof rather than admit that you are wrong or that your doctrine is unfounded.

So, the fraud and the sin is that you claim to be a Christian but here you are strongly refusing to confess the Truth before your face and admit that you are wrong..

Saying the part in bold just grounds your fraud for 3 times i have said that i would answer your questions but because you are committing the fallacy of reversal of the burden of proof is why I have not answered it. So, do the right thing and be the Christian you claim to be
I gave you questions because you are not LISTENING to anything other than what you want to hear. Answering questions force you to first listen to yourself then you can be able to listen to others.

Why is it difficult for you to answer simple questions?

I think its because you dont have an answer. Just 3 very simple doctrinal applications Questions!
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Permit Polygamy In The New Testament? by TenQ:
Dtruthspeaker:
This is the 3rd time that I am saying that I would not answer your question if you do not FIRST admit that you are wrong
This would be nothing other than fraud to admit what I honestly and truly believe in WRONG in order that you may answer my Questions which actually ultimately proves you wrong!

I put it to you that you chose to be evasive because your Theology fails the test of scrutiny.

Dtruthspeaker:
So, you cannot say that I cannot answer the question when you yourself have not done your part of admitting that you are wrong.
Can you not just say these 3 simple words of Truth? You know it is sinners. who do not believe in admission of wrong, So, if truly you are Christian you have to make this admission m. So, do you admit that you are wrong?
Sorry Sir.
I admit that I know in part and my understanding may not be perfect BUT until by the weight of Scriptural Evidence and it Application, I do not change my Truth because my GO says I should.


I ALWAYS stand by the TRUTH as I intellectually understand it. If you do not have the intellectual resource to show me scriptural evidence, then you stand on NOTHING but your EMOTIONAL rollercoaster.

You have chosen to be EVASIVE by not answering my question simply because your doctrine CANNOT stand scrutiny!

Let me add another question:


A. If Polygamy is a SIN, do you admit that
1. David died in sin
2. Israel (Jacob) died in sin
3. Abraham died in sin (he even had a concubine)

It is a YES or NO answer!

B. Let me give you a challenge:
1. Find me just ONE Sin in the New Testament that is NOT a sin in the Old Testament!

2. Find me just ONE Moral Sin in the Old Testament that is NOT a sin in the New Testament!



C. Help me solve this practical problem
Alhaji Anti-christian with ALL his four wives got born again. He had married five times but divorced his first wife before marrying his last wife to maintain four wives. Each of his five wives have three children each.
They all come to your church and you are the pastor.


What is your Christ based advice
1. To Alhaji Anti-christian
2. To each of the current four wives
3. To the first wife.




The only reason you won't answer the Questions is because, your Theology breaks down under scrutiny.

2Cor 3:6:
"Who also made us competent as ministers of the New Covenant; not of the letter, but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life."
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Permit Polygamy In The New Testament? by TenQ: 7:46am On Jun 22
Dtruthspeaker:
Any doctrine that cannot be tested is a Lie therefore every doctrine is subject to be tested and it was your own that was being tested FIRST, which you yourself prove that you cannot found or sustain it, hence why I am asking for you to honourably admit that you are wrong, and then we can close your case, then the burden of proof would swing to me to answer any questions you have on me saying that polygamy is a sin.

So, do you now admit that you are wrong as not confessing this Truth means that you still believe that you are right, therefore i will keep on asking you to prove your doctrine, which you yourself can see that you cannot prove it. So, do you admit that you are wrong?
The only reason you cannot answer my questions is because it fails even your theology. I dont understand how it doesn't dawn on you that you are the evasive one in this thread. Otherwise, you would have not evaded my questions.

If your doctrine is right, it shouldn't be difficult to answer my question!

If Polygamy is a SIN, do you admit that
1. David died in sin
2. Israel (Jacob) died in sin
3. Abraham died in sin (he even had a concubine)

It is a YES or NO answer!
Christianity EtcRe: Does God Permit Polygamy In The New Testament? by TenQ: 7:10am On Jun 22
Dtruthspeaker:
Why are you raising divorce when since the beginning of this issue i have only asked you about polygamy which is highlighted when it looked like you were denying that you did not say that polygamy is not a sin thereby forcing me to show you your words saying, you said it's a sin "However, it may not be a SIN if a man has more than one wife"?

The Corinthians 6:9-10 is speaking more to you for you the one who is are behaving unrighteously in being dodgy, evasive and even almost denying your very own words because you find that you are cornered.

And now instead of you to admit that you are wrong since you have now resorted to the fallacy of reversing the burden of proof in asking me those questions.

If you admit that you are wrong then I can address any questions you have on the issue of polygamy. But you are dodging and dodging it just like Muslims do when you have them cornered. That act in itself should tell you that even you can see that your belief that polygamy is right, is not founded!
Just answer my question please: any doctrine that cannot be tested is just an emotional opinion
If Polygamy is a SIN, do you admit that
1. David died in sin
2. Israel (Jacob) died in sin
3. Abraham died in sin (he even had a concubine)

It is a YES or NO answer!
Foreign AffairsRe: Parastoo Ahmadi Sentenced To 74 Lashes For Singing Online Without Hijab by TenQ: 5:31am On Jun 22
Expanse2020:
So you are that dulllled to know that every Country had her own law .....

So if someone broke the law and was served her right punishment, so you have to blamed it on religion 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Chaii
Africa and her mentality
What a disgrace you are
Their country chose to be ruled by the Shari'a : the law of governance of Allah and his Messenger!

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