₦airaland Forum

honesttalk21:
TenQ, you say this was concluded long ago, then paste the same four questions on Allah's attributes into two posts in a row, word for word, along with whether Allah is YHWH and accusations about Muslims. How does any of that change what Matthew 19:9, Mark 10:11 to 12 or 1 Corinthians 7:15 say, or your own conviction on remarriage? That is a switch, and I'll take those in their own thread once these are answered.

honesttalk21:
You say "may be" is a condition and name bereavement. Bereavement is remarriage after death, and your clause says "Remarrying after divorce." So you have named no condition for the case we are discussing. You add that the rest is "subject to individual interpretations." Then "marrying a divorced person is adultery" is an opinion and not a rule. And you fault Islam for explicit rulings while you say your own scripture is silent on the innocent wife and leave her to conviction. Is adultery a sin, yes or no? And under what circumstances does remarriage become adultery, from the text?

honesttalk21:
On 1 Corinthians 7:15 you wrote "In Corinthians, if the Unbelieving spouse exists the marriage, then the Believing woman is under no bondage not to remarry." You now say the verse doesn't say what she should do. If the text isn't explicit, on what text do you call her remarriage adultery?

honesttalk21:
On Deut 17:1, yes, it is about sacrificing a blemished animal and not eating. That is my point. It is a ritual law, it says "an abomination unto the LORD thy God," and Christians don't keep it. With 14:3, that shows the word and the phrase don't mark a law as moral and permanent. Which verse makes 24:4 the exception?

honesttalk21:
You say the Qur'an is verbatim and the Bible isn't. Then "abomination before the LORD" in Deut 24:4 is a chronicler's wording, not a verbatim verdict you can set against 2:230. And the Qur'an says the Messenger was sent to make clear what was sent down (16:44), so a hadith that explains is not throwing it away. If Abu Dawud 2157 contradicts a plain word of Allah, name the verse, and name the verse that gives a captive widow four months.

Smartguyboy:
All Zelensky serious opponents are all in exile why is that ?
The people in Ukraine now are just puppet.

Smartguyboy:
Someone ask me he wonder why people are not protesting in Ukraine about what is going on and I told him majority of the men who did not escape are in hiding and women can’t protest without men backing . 25-60 men conscripts is war crime how can you be sending 60 years old men to war who can’t even run .

Smartguyboy:
Me and someone are just discussing about different topic you just attack without reading. And quoting me western propaganda I know your type will support USA to invade Nigeria as we are not benefiting from the oil .

Smartguyboy:
The truth this days are called Russia propaganda that was why USA shut down Africa stream a platform use to educate Africans citizen about imperialism with 100 fact.

honesttalk21:
You say you did not call remarriage a sin. It seems you forget your own list says "2. Remarrying after divorce may be the sin of Adultery" and "3. If a divorced person doesn't remarry, he commits no sin." If remarrying were no sin, what sin does the person who doesn't remarry avoid? And you say marrying a divorced person is adultery. Is adultery a sin, yes or no?

honesttalk21:
You ask me to quote you properly on 1 Corinthians 7:15 so here are your words, "In Corinthians, if the Unbelieving spouse exists the marriage, then the believing woman is under no bondage not to remarry." Then you wrote "ZERO passage that explicitly allows Remarriage," and now "the Bible is NOT explicit whether he/she can remarry." Which of the three do you hold? And if the Bible is not explicit, on what text do you call her remarriage adultery?

honesttalk21:
You say an abomination before the LORD cannot change. Deut 14:3 says "any abominable thing" about foods, and the "to you" wording you cite is Leviticus 11. Deut 17:1 calls sacrificing[b] a blemished animal[/b] "an abomination unto the LORD thy God." Is that an unchangeable moral absolute? If not, what in the text makes 24:4 one? Which verse draws your line? You said "this is not the problem." It is the question I asked.

honesttalk21:
You say the law is imperfect. By what standard? Your own rule leaves an innocent wife unable to remarry while her husband lives, and you present that as acripture. Does perfect mean costless? If it does, your rule fails. If it doesn't, your objection to 2:230 loses its force.

honesttalk21:
You object to hadith being used against the Quran, yet you cite Bukhari and Abu Dawud to accuse the Prophet. Do you accept the report that Safiyya became clean before the marriage, or not? And name the verse that gives a captive widow four months. 2:234 is for those who die and leave wives.

honesttalk21:
You said you would ignore my questions or speak around them. Which of these will you answer? Two deities, Allah's attributes and "Muslims are deceptive" are separate threads. Let us finish this one.

Smartguyboy:
Who are doing to protest?
Girls ?
Over 1 million men who fall between the conscripts age are hiding 🙈 and the president is now a dictator who banned almost all opposition parties, many power candidates are in prison or be sent them to war front to die .

honesttalk21:
Addressing your points individually:

You call remarriage adultery, then say you don’t judge Christians who do it if their faith and understanding allow it. So is it a sin in the cases we’re discussing or not? If it depends on conditions, list them from Scripture.

honesttalk21:
Earlier, you said the deserted believer in 1 Cor 7:15 is “under no bondage not to remarry.” Then you said there is “ZERO passage that explicitly allows Remarriage.” Now you say the verse doesn’t tell her what to do. Which position do you defend, and where does the text support it? If the verse leaves it open, calling remarriage adultery in that case is your interpretation.

honesttalk21:
You say an abomination never changes. Deuteronomy 14:3 uses the same abomination language for foods most Christians don’t keep under the New Covenant. If food laws are different from Deut 24:4, show the scriptural reason. And the verse itself mentions sin upon the land God gave Israel; doesn’t that limit its scope?

honesttalk21:
You already agreed that the wife of an impotent man can seek dissolution. Faskh is recognised across the schools, even if the
details vary. So she isn’t trapped. Argue that the process is unfair if you want, but the legal exit exists in qualifying cases.

honesttalk21:
That patience line you quoted—“But if you are patient, it is better for those who are patient”—comes from Qur’an 16:126, not the Bible. Qur’an 42:40 praises pardon too, and 2:194 permits a proportionate response to aggression. Exodus 21:23-25 and Romans 13:4 also address proportional justice and the ruler punishing wrongdoing. How does that fit the contrast you keep making?

honesttalk21:
On Safiyya, you claim the waiting period has nothing to do with menses. Qur’an 2:228 uses qurūʾ for a divorced woman’s waiting period. The schools interpret it as menstrual periods or the periods of purity between them, but either way, it is tied to the menstrual cycle. Abu Dawud 2157 specifies one menstrual period before intercourse with a captive. That report doesn’t settle every detail of Safiyya’s case. Where is your source for the four-month rule you apply to her? And how is a widow’s mourning period different from the waiting period before intercourse with a captive?

Galapagous:
Hmm. Are they doing it because of Islam or they are doing it because they are hungry. I hope you are speaking from true wisdom and not clouded by hatred for a religion.

Smartguyboy:
Do you know how billions of dollars other European leaders have made with Ukrainian life ?
They want them to fight to the last man yet they can’t do anything or encourage the citizen to go and fight to help Ukraine 🇺🇦.

They are using Ukraine to wash money and Trump want to stop that because his a billionaire already before politics.

donleo92:
They know that it's only Putin that can end the war in Ukraine

Infact, they dare not interrupt him Putin when he is talking.

Right now, Trump knows the truth, and is trying to soften Putin heart to end the war, Trump is actually the only president that cares for the people of Ukraine

latiephwald:
More investigations will reveal she's from them. They just wanna use every tactic to deface Islam.

Expanse2020:
This paitor de enjoy óò
See thick thick things ...
May the ministry moving forward óò

Antiislam
TenQ
Kobojonkies

Paito na kòkòrò caryy something se mouth wuje oo

Originalsly:
Doesn't that ring a bell? .... isn't this what the Israelis been doing in Gaza? .. and in same Lebanon? Who been bombing churches in Lebanon?.. who bombed the oldest church? .. who been destroying and desecrating the churches there?.. who been carpet bombing Christian communities in Lebanon? Christians been living for centuries among the Muslims.. but now decide to attack a prominent family?.. one that has three doctors? .. to help them? who been bombing hospitals that assist Muslims? .. why wouldn't they take the opportunity to kill these doctors from a prominent family? Why couldn't it be the Israelis?.. who has done this before... on their own people in Iran? .. while dressed as Muslims?... even bombed Synagogues and blamed it on the Muslims? Have you ever heard of the USS Liberty?
The internet has information at your fingertips ... before shouting conspiracy theory and remaining gullible ... saying things on impulse ... gather information from a variety of sources.. process it all then come to a logical conclusion that you can reasonably defend. We are wayyy too gullible as a people ... question nothing...the reason someone can point out someone in public and shout .... he stole my penis ... and the mob will attack ..no questions asked. And we wonder why we can't move forward

BlackViper:
●Jordan is a predominantly Muslim country with approximately 97% of the population identifying as Sunni Muslims;

●Article 2 of the country's Constitution makes Islam the state religion and the legal system is based on Shariah law;

●Christians are a minority and make up about 2.2% of the country's population;


●The Christians who were attacked belong to the Halasah Family (آل هلسة). This is a highly prominent, historic Jordanian Christian tribe deeply rooted in the city of Al-Karak, Jordan. They are well-known in Jordanian society, politics, history and have a reputation for academic excellence;

●Three of the Christians who were murdered were medical doctors;

●This is the deadliest attack on Jordanian Christian since the 1950s;


Video footage of the attack:

Surveillance camera footage shows gunmen carrying out an attack targeting a church in Jordan’s Al-Karak. pic.twitter.com/6kpB31d7RF

— Al Arabiya English (@AlArabiya_Eng) October 23, 2026

https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2026/10/24/jordan-church-attack-death-toll-rises-to-9-as-christian-leaders-call-for-unity/

omoredia:
Doesn't it make it less of a war. Putin has all the time in the world

Kukonaira1:
Ruhun Allah, Ka zo,
Ka cika zuciyarmu,
Ka koya mana tafarkinka,
Mu yi nufinka kullum.

Kukonaira1:
ALLAH IS GOD, So we should follow his footstep

omoredia:
Islam is in a war dragging on for years. Only people who are not prepared for war want it to end quickly

omoredia:
It's a war. You consider your overall objective for a war not assets that are lost. Be smart

DonaldGenes:
No, Trump is definitely trying to end the bloodshed going on in Ukraine

Something has to give..we know Russia won't stop so the best thing to do is Ukraine giving up the land to Russia - simple - then the war will end

You know Russia is militarily stronger that Ukraine , so what is the point of the killing when Ukraine can easily gibe a small part of the land

omoredia:
They want to put all of europe in a slow grind. They also need to test new military tech. Russia doesn't need this war to end quickly.

omoredia:
CNN has been lying that Ukraine was winning. Dey play

Brighton1:
Some do, most don't. For my boss, it is absolutely true. He dislikes his home that much. He will wait until 5:30pm to actually start working, then call his wife video call to say he'll be late.

So one day I asked him, why doing that? Then He said his wife nags over everything, plus his wife refused to do any cleaning, cooking or other chores at home. He said he’s trying his best not to go physical on her


Society: Don’t beat your wife.
Qur,an: Don't beat your wife.
Bible: Don't beat your wife.
Law: Don't beat your wife.

But the Wife: beat me, beat me, you must beat me, If you are a man beat me.

honesttalk21:
ept this to divorce, remarriage and Safiyya's waiting period. Wine and Allah's nature need separate replies. An unverified social-media clip is not evidence, so name the claim and give the source. If you think any premise or citation above is wrong, point to it and show why.

I don't know what you mean by me erasing any post or the X link that doesn't open.

honesttalk21:
TenQ, this is my combined reply to your posts at 7:20, 7:52, 9:04, 9:05 and 10:00 pm. You keep reposting the same six questions as if repetition settles them. It doesn't. You stance on Islam is already treating it as taboo, so every difference between the texts becomes a
contradiction before any argument is made.
Did Jesus say Moses or God gave the concession?

I don't know what you mean by me erasing any post or the X link that doesn't open.

lawani:
If Ijesa were a country it would have had a government university decades ago instead of in 2022. It would be popular In the world too and the population will exceed three million. It would have an integrated steel mill and it would have at least one oil refinery. It will have a negotiated access to the sea through Lagos. Ijesa in the 1500s had access to the sea through Lagos etc etc
They had people going back and forth to Europe and America back then with no hitches

lawani:
Yes that is true but what about big groups that are bigger than most countries of the world? Why should they continue carrying the colonial identity? Germany was occupied and split between the west and the East for decades with one a communist nation and the other a free market, one saking more of Russian and the other more of English but at the end they reunited. That is what should happen in West Africa. There was nation building here before the British. I am Ijesa for instance, if we had no nation in the 1500s we would not have white people in Brazil who are from an Ijesa community. So is Nigeria bigger than that? Not n my opinion. As it is with the Ijesa, it is also with other groups. The British didn't introduce natio building to these parts