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Islam › Re: Divorce In Islam by TenQ: 4:26am On Oct 15
TV01:
One of the unbelievably twisted and illogial things about the religion. Or maybe i am wrong, and there is a knowledgeable moose.slim who can explain this?

Is there is no bottom too this religion Just when you think it can't get any more ungodlike, any ,more absurd.


TV
Unfortunately, the stubbornness that made the fly follow the corpse into the grave wouldn't allow them use reason.

They would find excuses from weak Hadiths, to fabricated Hadith, to denying it at all to saying enemies of Islam smuggled it into their books.

Anything else but the truth will suffice for them!
This is islam!

Qur'an 2:230
“So if he divorces her, then she is not lawful to him after that until she marries a husband other than him. Then, if he divorces her, there is no sin/blame upon the two of them that they return to one another, if they think that they will uphold the limits of Allah. And those are the limits of Allah; He makes them clear to a people who know.”


Sunan Abu Dawud 2309
The Prophet ﷺ was asked whether a woman divorced three times, then married another man who divorced her before intercourse, could return to the first husband. He replied: “She is not lawful for the first husband until she tastes the honey of the other husband and he tastes her honey.”


Sunan al-Nasa’i 3413–3414
Ibn ‘Umar reports the Prophet ﷺ said that if the second husband divorces her before consummation, she cannot return to the first husband “until she tastes his sweetness.”




This makes perfect sense to Muslims!
Education › Re: Alumni Of Federal Government College Ilorin Would Be Ashamed by TenQ(op): 10:33pm On Oct 14
Gotocourt:
Secondary school breeds Terrorists.
All secondary schools!?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia Rejects 60-Days Ceasefire Proposed By Ukraine (Photos) by TenQ: 9:32pm On Oct 14
smallsmall:
I am not a bot
I dont substitute Prompts from bots, for intellectual research...... Grok and the likes have inbuilt "Western Biases" and and Errors, afteral this is a "Western (Euro-Atlantic) War" on Russia!

Also, using an Ukrainian Propaganda Newspaper Outlet like Pravda, to validate an Ukrainian Government Claim, indicates how much propaganda you have swallowed. What were using expecting "Pravda" to say? shocked grin

But like i said earlier, IGNORANCE IS BLISS....... enjoy it while it lasts.
Reality will soon be too glaring to ignore.
I am done with responding to you on this.
Stop the excuses!?

I gave you a challenge: find your own bot.

Let me present you with what DeepSeek a Chinese AI bot said!


Find attached the report from DeepSeek. People who hate the TRUTH see every truth as propaganda

Education › Re: Alumni Of Federal Government College Ilorin Would Be Ashamed by TenQ(op): 9:28pm On Oct 14
turawaa:
What kind of Naija demons ENTERED the Government/Administrators of the School?

Social Media!
It is a question we should ask o!

What happened to us as a Nation?
Education › Re: Alumni Of Federal Government College Ilorin Would Be Ashamed by TenQ(op): 9:09pm On Oct 14
FGC Ilorin, an A-list school that has become a school of Al-Majiri.


This was what they wanted and they have gotten it. Anything they touch or control rots and finally dies in their hands.


SMH!
Islam › Re: 10 Punishments For Disbelievers In Jahannam (hell)! by TenQ: 9:06pm On Oct 14
doffman:
Unbelievers, you will be healed . 🤣🤣


This is how Jesus will deny you :



Matthew 15:9

King James Version
9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.



Quran 5:116

And ˹on Judgment Day˺ Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah?” He will answer, “Glory be to You! How could I ever say what I had no right to say? If I had said such a thing, you would have certainly known it. You know what is ˹hidden˺ within me, but I do not know what is within You. Indeed, You ˹alone˺ are the Knower of all unseen.




Don’t worry ; you guys should kpaid first without repentance, your body go tell you .
Odedo!


You just proved how unknowledgeable Allah is. Allah will WAIT till the Day of Judgment to as Jesus a Question he couldn't ask with Jesus allegedly being with him.!

Quran 5:116
And ˹on Judgment Day˺ Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah?” He will answer, “Glory be to You! How could I ever say what I had no right to say? If I had said such a thing, you would have certainly known it. You know what is ˹hidden˺ within me, but I do not know what is within You. Indeed, You ˹alone˺ are the Knower of all unseen.


Depemu Allahu would now say "Jesus, son of Mary" Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah?”

Tell me, do any fringe Christian cult worship Mary as the third of the Trinity?


Allah was asking a question to which he doesn't know the answer: otherwise, it was a senseless question.


See your life on the outside.
See the level of intelligence of the one you worship!?
Education › Re: Alumni Of Federal Government College Ilorin Would Be Ashamed by TenQ(op): 8:35pm On Oct 14
illicit:
It's not the school that changed

It's people that changed

The priority changed...
I understand that Nigeria has changed.
Values have changed.

My problem is the fact that the PURPOSE for the school is FORGOTTEN

Religious identity is now the new Purpose.
Education › Re: Alumni Of Federal Government College Ilorin Would Be Ashamed by TenQ(op): 8:12pm On Oct 14
Even now in 2026 in Nigeria, how many schools can field a girls Badminton Team with 32 Rackets?
Education › Re: Alumni Of Federal Government College Ilorin Would Be Ashamed by TenQ(op): 8:08pm On Oct 14
obojememe:
wetin religion go do us for this country ehn .
As an Alumni of the Federal Government College Ilorin, I almost cried seeing the Picture of students on the Assembly Ground
Islam › Re: Divorce In Islam by TenQ: 8:06pm On Oct 14
Ohyoudidnt:
Your eeya is yours jumping in on my advice to my brother not you.
Respecting hadith compilers doesn’t make every narration authentic; that’s precisely why Muslim scholars graded chains and narrators. I’m not declaring embarrassment proof of fabrication rather I’m demanding evidence-based grading. If your case is sound, defend each report’s authenticity, not the compilers’ piety.

Advice to you is to do this by yourself for your use hopefully you can free yourself from bias and programming.
Serious questions were asked but no response only the emotional outbursts like one under the spell of a 419.

It is not about having a Bias: it is about what your Religious Literatures say!

It would have been unjust if these information were found in Christians or Jewish literatures: BUT no! It would have been unjust if I used Ahmadiyah literatures for you. It would have been unjust if I used Shia literatures for you. BUT I used Sahih Sunni Literatures.

They are in Books you Sunni Muslims call Sahih (AUTHENTIC).

Only that what you are saying is that your so-called AUTHENTIC BOOKS are actually not Authentic. They contain LIES and Fabrications



The Question is HOW did it manage to enter your Sahih collections that you scholars didn't know
Education › Alumni Of Federal Government College Ilorin Would Be Ashamed by TenQ(op): 7:49pm On Oct 14
There was a time when only the BEST students got admitted into the Federal Government Colleges in Nigeria.

I remember, at times when many schools were celebrating their best students having 5 or 6 Credits in their WASC or GCE, at FGC Ilorin the Question usually to a recent graduate from the school was How Many Distinctions do you have?

This was because the worst result in the school was usually about 5 or 6 Credits and so, it is by the number of A's that distinguished you. Those with less the 4 A's were ashamed to post their results.

When it was in terms of ANY competition amongst Secondary Schools, trust FGC Ilorin to top the chart in both Sports, Debates, Academics etc.


UNFORTUNATELY,
Those days seem permanently gone.
FGC Ilorin is unrecognisable: it is now like a school for Almajiri.

JAMB Results: You dont hear of FGC Ilorin again
WASC Results: You dont hear of FGC Ilorin again
Secondary School Sport: You dont hear of FGC Ilorin again
Secondary School Debates: You dont hear of FGC Ilorin again



What kind of Naija demons ENTERED the Government/Administrators of the School?

Islam › Re: Divorce In Islam by TenQ: 6:05pm On Oct 14
You said:
These claims need to be investigated using seriously scholarly and reliable sources,
The claims are NOT yet investigated but are already deemed to be fabrications!?


Ohyoudidnt:
Brother, do not let an enemy of Islam determine what you know about your religion. Paradise, Safiyyah's waiting period, the fabrication of hadiths and Hafs etc. These claims need to be investigated using seriously scholarly and reliable sources, not cherry-picked quotes or emotional arguments.The authentication of a Hadith depends upon critical analysis of the chain of transmission as well as the content; the reputation of a respected compiler or the controversy of a narration does not make it automatically authentic. Hold all claims to the same high standards, ask for proof, and respond with knowledge and dignity. Insults are not needed by truth, nor need faith dread honest scrutiny. Particularly be wary of being drawn into ill intended comedy that may be more consequential than the surface play.
Eya'a

ANYTHING you feel is embarrassing is a FRAUD!

Do you know that this is exactly how people being duped by 419 behaves when a third party show them EVIDENCES!?

I plead with you to use your reason.





Are the compilers your Hadiths Christians , Jews or Hindu
1. Jāmiʿ al-Tirmidhī 2550
2. Sunan Ibn Mājah, Book of Zuhd, Hadith 4337
3. And the ones who wrote that Your prophet had less than THREE days Iddah period instead of the stipulated three months with Safiyya as stipulated by Allah in the Qur'an:



To force you to think
1. The compilers of your Hadiths eg. Bukhari, Muslim etc are HIGHLY respected Islamic Scholars.
2. The compilers of your Hadiths are serious Pius Muslims who desire to document truths about your prophet
3. The compilers of your hadiths have filtered off a huge chunk of the hadiths that they consider as fabrications
4. Modern Muslims are now ashamed of some of these cleaned up reports such that ANYTHING they find shameful is deemed weak or fabricated
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia Rejects 60-Days Ceasefire Proposed By Ukraine (Photos) by TenQ: 5:41pm On Oct 14
smallsmall:
I dont blame people like you, if it is the "Propaganda" Institute for the Study of War (ISW), that is your Source!
Go and check out the sponsors and composition of ISW, check their antecedents and you will realize you have been FOOLED.
Reminds me of the "White Helmets" in Syria.
. undecided

But look, l wont try to educate you, IGNORANCE IS BLISS, as they say.

Infact, l agree with you that Ukraine is winning.
That 30% land-loss that Trump talked about,, was given to Russia by Ukraine, in a Bar Room. grin grin

VIVA UKRIENA!
Three different AI bots all saying the same thing!?

Perplexity
Grok
Google Gemini


Why not take the same Prompt into your own preferred bot.


This is a challenge to you




Prompt:
With an unbiased professional position and assessment, who between Ukraine and Russia had been making the most battlefield progress within the last four months (month by month progress. In not more than 60 words



Only God knows where you get your news.
Islam › Re: Divorce In Islam by TenQ: 5:35pm On Oct 14
You are so DAZED that you cannot even respond clearly

Pele!

Expanse2020:
cry as much as possible... With Islam lies dies, fabricating lie is not allowed 🤣😂😂which caused you. Headache
A person who doesn't even know what a lie is.

A statement with receipt from and by the Muslims is never a lie but a statement of fact!

Sorry!




Your God would even import professional night workers with the sole quality of having desirable front passages for your pleasures.

And you think this is God Almighty!?
Islam › Re: Divorce In Islam by TenQ: 5:12pm On Oct 14
Are the compilers your Hadiths Christians , Jews or Hindu
1. Jāmiʿ al-Tirmidhī 2550
2. Sunan Ibn Mājah, Book of Zuhd, Hadith 4337
3. And the ones who wrote that Your prophet had less than THREE days Iddah period instead of the stipulated three months with Safiyya as stipulated by Allah in the Qur'an:

Were your Muslim scholars BLIND till recently that they did NOT know that they have included FABRICATED hadiths in their compilation?

Are their contemporary Muslims that hold these Hadiths as true and preach it to their congregation?

Do these narratives contradict or corroborate the Qur'an?



Again:
It is your paradise that has brothels where people buy intimacy 3D men and women.


Expanse2020:
You run after I showed you that it's weak Hadith ...it's fabricated not authentic 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Christianity and lie gbamsolutely
Every damning report about your prophet is a FABRICATION!

A typical case of people who hate the TRUTH!

Are you aware that people rooting for a system rarely speak shameful things about their leader except it is very TRUE!

Why? They have NOTHING to gain by speaking ill of their beloved Master.





To force you to think
1. The compilers of your Hadiths eg. Bukhari, Muslim etc are HIGHLY respected Islamic Scholars.
2. The compilers of your Hadiths are serious Pius Muslims who desire to document truths about your prophet
3. The compilers of your hadiths have filtered off a huge chunk of the hadiths that they consider as fabrications
4. Modern Muslims are now ashamed of some of these cleaned up reports such that ANYTHING they find shameful is deemed weak or fabricated



From simple logic
1. The fact that a chain of transmission of a report is broken doesn't make the report false.
2. The fact that a questionable character is in a chain of transmission is not a proof of false report.
3. The fact that a person with a weak memory (except he is a slowpoke) is in a chain of transmission is not a proof of false report.


OTHERWISE
Apply this same rule to your Hafs Quran. Hafs and his father are Thiefs and Liars YET, their Qur'an is thr Rolls-Royce of Islamic Quran.
Foreign Affairs › Re: 15-Year-Old Girl Wakes Up In Her Coffin At Her Own Funeral In Guatemala (Video) by TenQ: 4:44pm On Oct 14
oluwaseyi0:
Definitely

Because if she comes back and say hell is where god and satan lives as a collaborative scammer you will not agree with her
A wise man judges reports and doesn't act or arrive at a conclusion without thinking!







In the year 2005, Patrick Lawler unknowingly had a 4inches nail driven into his brain for six days. His dentist discovered the nail when he went for his teeth examination.

Ignorant people will judge this case according to their gross ignorance.
Crime › Re: I Was Sexually Assaulted By This Man On My Way To My Hostel - Pharmacy Student by TenQ: 11:37am On Oct 14
Jennyclay:
Men are pervert undecided

He sounds like he does it every time even to little children. Look at the way he’s begging with pride “abi I have apologized” nonsense man!

Biko, He should be locked up undecided
Men are pervert undecided
But your Father is a Man
Your Brothers are Men
And you would soon marry a Man


Is this statement TRUE?
Foreign Affairs › Re: 15-Year-Old Girl Wakes Up In Her Coffin At Her Own Funeral In Guatemala (Video) by TenQ: 10:44am On Oct 14
oluwaseyi0:
Welcome back girle
I’m sure you didn’t see all the fairy tale of heaven and hell
And if she does, you will still call it a hallucination!

SMH!
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia Rejects 60-Days Ceasefire Proposed By Ukraine (Photos) by TenQ: 7:31am On Oct 14
smallsmall:
Very 'dummy-good' summary, though l think you did not complete it

Below are the missing parts:
- America has Nuclear weapons, Israel has Nuclear weapons yet, both of them are saying Iran cannot have what they have? Do they have two heads?
- America and the EU has since imposed "Sanctions" on Iran, for over 50years now, inflicting suffering on Iranian Citizens
- Iran's leader issued a Fatwa (Religious edict) banning the manufacture of Nuclear weapons in Iran.
That is why they focused on non-Nuclear alternatives of defense (Missiles, Drones, Blockade of waterways, etc)

_ Iran, in addition to the Fatwa in place, also signed the JCPOA Agreement with America, EU, China, Russia and the UN, that it will not produce Nuclear weapons but has the Right to the use of Nuclear 'Technology" (Research, Energy, Medicine, Space exploration, Transportation, etc)
- Trump unilaterally tore-up this JCPOA Agreement when he assumed Office but still, Iran agreed to go into "Negotiation" with America, hoping for a common ground.

- Trump and Israel attacked Iran, while negotiation was still ongoing, without any provocation.
- Trump and Satanyahu killed most of the Iranian leaders, Iranian Scientists, Iranian Generals, the Ayatollah of Iran, his family, the family and children of many innocent Iranians, in that attack.
- These attacks were also launched from American Military Bases in Arab Countries like Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, UAE, etc, who connive with Israel, against Iran. (Note: Iran is Shia Muslim and all these other Arab Countries are Sunni Muslims so, there is an element of 'Religious beefing' going on)

- Iran is not a major military power like America but it has 'Geography' on its side!
- Iran chose to block the Strait of Hormuz, to force America and Israel to stop attacking it.
- Everyone uses whatever "weapon" they have, to fight their fight!

So, we can all agree that the Scarcity and High Price of Fuel (specifically Diesel in America, which is what farmers and machineries use in America), is CAUSED by the Unprovoked War of Israel and it's American Puppet, on Iran.
Iran is the Victim, America and Israel are the Villain. Trump and Satnyahu are responsible for these current shortage.


Part 2.
- November Elections are truly around the corner, and with price of Diesel hovering between $6 - $8 per Gallon (about 4Litres, make One Gallon).
- Americans that voted for Trump/Republican are having a Re-think because he promised them Peace, promised to end Wars but has become more hawkish than the Democrats themselves, a party of war!
- Americans are caught between a Rock (Republicans/Trump) and a Hard Place (Democrats and their War-mongers) but they tend to focus more on "Economics', rather than solely on "Party support".

-So, Trump is sensing that November will be bad for him and his party, if prices of gas does not come down.
- His gamble is to look for alternative source of Oil that can flood the Market, even if temporarily, till November elections are over, bring the price down so he can have it easier at the Election.

Part 3.
This is where Russia comes in, a major exporter of Oil.
- Trump has a "politically convenient" relationship with Russia's President (V. Putin), but as an American President, he is still bound to be an adversary of Russia.
- America and Europe are the ones prolonging this War with Russia because if it were like when Britain fought Argentina over Faklands Islands, a war strictly between Argentina and Britain (no external influence by "supporters' of either Countries), Ukraine would have surrendered within the first Six Months of 2022.
- But America wants to encircle Russia with NATO Countries so that whenever it wants to attack, it can surprise Russia in a matter of a few minutes.
- This is WHY NATO EXPANSION is at the root of this Russia-Ukraine War and it is an Existential War for Russia
- We can see what Europe-NATO is trying to do in Kalliningrad?
- We can see what Sweden and Finland quickly did, when Russia was still pre-occupied with Ukraine/NATO, but Russia will address those two countries, after Ukraine War is over.
- So, America and European NATO Countries are the ones supplying Mercenaries (European Soldiers not wearing their National Uniforms), Weapons, Missiles, Planes, Tanks, Drones Intelligence, Targeting Data, which Ukraine uses to attack Russia.
Ukraine only supplies it's own Citizens, as Cannon-Fodder to the Meat Grinder.

- There have been a few AGREEMENTS between Russia and Ukraine, which Americans and Europeans urged Ukraine to IGNORE;
1)1993 Non-Eastward Expansion of NATO
2) Minsk 1 and Minsk 2 Agreements
3) Istanbul/Turkey Agreement.

Europeans and the Hawks in American Government want the War to continue, hopefully it will wear-down Russia to the point where they can attack it successfully.
That is the Job Zelensky was given and he is doing it very well, just that he is running out of Ukrainian Men.
Trump knows this but he cant do much about ti otherwise, the Military-Industrial Complex and Israeli War Lobby that brought him to Power, will IMPEACH him swiftly. (The vast majority of American Senators are either sponsored by the Israeli Lobby or the MIC)

- So, to cut his problem short, Trump reaches out to Putin to please, kindly flood the Market with Russian Diesel, so Price can come down Temporarily, for his Election purposes

- European War-mongers who have sanctioned 'Russian Oil" and are buying the same Russian Oil from 3rd parties like India and Khazastan, at three times normal price, went mad at Trump, but Trump is only doing it for his own survival, not because he likes Putin/Russia.
- Zelensky and his NATO supporters keep destroying Russian Refineries, to limit Russia's output of Oil (like Diesel that Trump/America needs!) and to deny it of Revenue required to prosecute the War, After they STOLE Russia's $300Billion!
- Trump tells Zelensky and his NATO-European Supporters to hold-on these attacks on Russian Refineries, till after his November Elections. THEY REFUSED!

- Trump decides and tells them that since it is him (America) that Zelensky depends on, for Weapons and Intelligence, he would cut them off, if they dont play ball and thereby make him loose in November! They still REFUSED, because they want him to loose. grin grin
- Trump tells Elon Musk to switch-off his 'Starlinks Satellite System' over Ukraine, so that Zelensky can not use it to target Russia or defend against Russian Drones. Trump withholds further PAC 3 interceptor Missile for Ukraine.

Trump says if you wont help me, i wont be helping you as well. Zelensky keeps attacking Russian Refineries, at the prompting of European NATO supporters
Trump said it is time for Ukraine to have another President who can "negotiate deal", and Zelensky MUST go



Part 4.
- Russia and Trump had a 3hr Phone-call last week where Putin told Trump about the situation of things on the ground.
- Putin reminded Trump that Zelensky has violated every Agreement and effort to reach a Peaceful Settlement of the War and from Now on, All Gloves are Off.

- Putin has been 'raining Missiles" on Ukraine for two weeks now. Ukraine does not have any working 'Missile Defense Shield'.
- Germany tried to help by sending its own Interceptor Missile but it could not work with the Pac 3 System (not interceptors!) in Ukraine.
- Infact, last Sunday, Russia eventually destroyed what Chancellor Metz sent to Ukraine, to protect their Science Academy and the Odessa Port.
- Right now, Ukraine is on life support, particularly its Capital Kiev.
- Putin is unleashing its fury on Kiev and the Europeans/NATO supporters of Ukraine are very, very worried that Zelensky's Govt is about to capitulate!
You can see them running in-and-out of Kiev everyday, to try and use themselves as a shield, so that Russia wont destroy wherever they are! But Putin is not letting up. he finally lost all his patience.

Part 5 and why Zelensky has no "Master Card"
- Zelensky passed a law in 2023, that Ukraine will not negotiate with Russia. No one from Ukraine can negotiate with Russia!
That Law has not been repealed.
- Russia says they will not "negotiate" with Ukraine, unless that law is repealed.... and that makes sense.

- Russia held its National Elections recently (about Three Weeks or so).
- Zelensky attacked that Election on the most important day (the Sunday). He killed Voters, killed Election Officials and even targeted the Family Homes of Election officials, Putin was handed a solid Victory in that Election (whether the Europeans like it or not, it is Russians that voted for Putin).
- Zelensky has been in Power for Six years now, and have refused to hold Elections to renew his mandate.
- He has banned Political Activities, using the War as an excuse...... but Russia has had Two Elections under the same conditions.
He wants to sits-tight!

- One of Russia's demand is that this War must End, with "a comprehensive agreement" which protects Russia and Ukraine as well, not just "a Ceasefire" (like that between America/Israel and Iran), which can be broken at will.
- Russia says when the Delegation of both Countries have ironed out the nitty-gritty of the AGREEMENT, both Presidents can then meet to ratify it with their Country's signature. That makes sense, right?
- Zelensky keeps crying that he wants to "negotiate directly" with Putin, at the same table!
- Putin says for now, until an Agreement is in-place, he wont seat at the same table with Zelensky, that will be an Insult.
Zelensky actually wanted to use such sitting to buy time for himself and improve his scanty profile. Putin is Smart but very measured,

- Trump has been asking Zelensky to hold New Elections since 2024 but Zelensky has been dodging that issue.
- Now, Zelsnky's "Master Card', is to hide under the Pretext that 'he needs 60Days Ceasefire' to conduct Elections.
- And in those 60days, there must be a "Ceasefire", something which Russia has already rejected since 2023.
- On hearing this, trump confirmed that Zelensky is playing "games" with him.

- Russia has tossed Zelensky's request of 60days Ceasefire into the Dustbin, his so-called "Master Card" has failed woefully and Russia continues to devastate Kiev and other Cities of Ukraine. Warehouses, Data Centers, Government Buildings, Post infrastructures, Energy Infrastructures, Weapons Depots, Railway Locomotives, Bridges, Petrol Stations, truck Depots, etc...ARE ALL IN FLAMES.

- Zelesnky claims that Russia does not want Peace, if it cannot agree to a 60days Ceasefire.
- Putin reminds the world that he has granted a few 'Cease Firing" in the past, to allow negotiations to continue but that they have realized that Zelensky is always asking for such "Ceasefires", when he is suffering defeats or facing an imminent one.
- Putin argues that all Zelensky does, is to use the Ceasefire Period to RE-ARM and RE-STOCK WEAPONS, so he can resume the fighting!

- Putin says, this time, Fighting will continue while Negotiations are Ongoing, if really Zelensky wants to negotiate..... Russia is open to Negotiation.

Part 6: Grand Finale.
- Only TWO things can happen, going forward.
A)
1) Ukraine can surrender, keep its Capital and Agree to Russia's demand of Neutrality for Ukraine (No NATO Membership), forgo the conquered territories (which makes a little over 30% of Ukraine but they contain Ethnic Russians who have voted to join Russia).

2) Russia will guarantee that it will NEVER attack Ukraine, as long as it remains Neutral (just like its agreement with Finland, which lasted for the past 80years, until Finland suddenly jumped into NATO, with Sweden) ... and never try to join NATO.

But agreeing to this, will make the whole effort of European/NATO backers of Ukraine, MEANINGLESS.
It will be a defeat for the whole NATO.
I don't see the Warmongers in Britain, Germany, France, Poland and those little Baltic Chuahahas like Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, who are now very Russophobic, out of Fear, AGREEING to this.

B)
1) Since the above is not likely to happen, the ONLY other Option, seeing that Ukraine is 'going down' very fast, is for the "NATO Supporters" to jump-in and face Russia DIRECTLY in WAR.... not by Proxy, as they have bene doing with Ukraine!
They will need to put Boots on the Ground, wearing the National Colors, in Ukraine.

- There is already a Plan for this and all the "false flag" they have been staging, claiming that "Russia is attacking NATO Countries", is in preparation for this Option.

2) Storming Russian Enclave of Kalliningrad, is part of this Option.
This Option B of direct War with Russia, is not very appealing to "European Citizens' who dont want to be sent to the "Meat Grinder", while the Children of those making the Decisions are enjoying their lives in 'safe countries' (Zelensky's Children and Wife are Shopping between France and UK, while some Ukrainian families have lost ALL their Male Children and Father).

Will the desire of European leaders to see the downfall of Russia, push them into this suicidal move or will commonsense prevail?
I dont know the Answers, i can only write what i observe but I hope the death of young Men and Fathers in Europe nd Russia, including Ukraine, will mean "something" to those who make the decision to go to War!


One day, after things have calmed down, I hope to write a Book about my Observations and Opinions, on this NATO/Ukraine-Russia War.
The same virus on display!
Anger because Europe and not NATO again is fooling the losing Ukraine. They should hands off so that Putin can win. Ukraine had been loosing daily, they should cut their loss and ACCEPT Defeat and Capitulate!

SMH!

Prompt:
With an unbiased professional positionand assessment, who between Ukraine and Russia had been making the most battlefield progress within the last four months (month by month progress. In not more than 60 words



Only God knows where you get your news.



Have a good day

Islam › Re: 10 Punishments For Disbelievers In Jahannam (hell)! by TenQ: 9:15pm On Oct 13
doffman:
Unbelievers , how u dey nah ?

Now , today lecture us about Paul or Saul ; the founder of your fake religion 🤣

Oya open your bible to : Mathew 24 - 23-26

Even you guys were warned about agbaaaaaao Paul , but you guys still fall for him 🤣


23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time.

26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it.




Now , see your liar master that deceive you guys ahaaa.

Act 9 vs 3 -9

3 As he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. 4 He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, “Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?”

5 “Who are you, Lord?” Saul asked.

“I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,” he replied. 6 “Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.”

7 The men traveling with Saul stood there speechless; they heard the sound but did not see anyone. 8 Saul got up from the ground, but when he opened his eyes he could see nothing. So they led him by the hand into Damascus. 9 For three days he was blind, and did not eat or drink anything.
Are you blind.to the question

Qur’an 22:52
“We did not send before you any messenger or prophet except that, when he tamannā, Satan cast something into his umniyya; but Allah removes what Satan casts, then Allah makes His signs firm. Allah is Knowing, Wise.”


1. Why and How does Shaitan and Jibril look so alike that your prophet mixes them up?

2. Does Shaitan also have 600 wings?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia Rejects 60-Days Ceasefire Proposed By Ukraine (Photos) by TenQ: 8:51pm On Oct 13
Christlike01:
Kindly elaborate on this. Is Trump an antichrist? I think Iran is the problem but not Trump. Please, kindly enlighten me. I hate Iran Iran with every breath in me! I believe that country is the earthly headquarters of the antichrist. So, how is "the joke on Trump"?
Unlike you, I do not hate Iran!
Unlike you, I do not think that Trump is the Antichrist!
And I do not think Iran is the headquarters of the Antichrist.

Iran may have their own problems of sponsoring Terrorists all over the world

HOWEVER
1. Trump attacked Iran for whatever his reasons
2. Iran responded by closing the strait of Hormuz and striking many middle east counties refinaries.
3. 20% of the global oil supply is struck resulting in global increase in oil price
4. Diesel price is increasing in USA.
5. Americans do not appreciate the increase in cost of diesel
6. The US midterm Election is coming up by November 3 and the price of oil may give the Democrats an edge
7. Trump thinks the problem is because Ukraine is Bombing Russian Oil Refinaries and not his war with Iran
8. Trump is angry with Zelensky who in his opinion is raising the cost of diesel
9. Trumps solution is that Zelensky should be replaced in a new Election by a New pliable Ukrainian President
10. Trump thinks that Zelensky is the problem of the world as he has set up many Big Business deals he wants to do with Putin. Zelensky's refusal to capitulate is Trump's MAJOR problem!



Zelensky however played a Mastercard with Trump and it has nothing to do with Russia:
He said:
Mr Trump, I am ready for an election right now, tell your bulldog Putin to stop his Bombing of Ukrainian Civilians for just 60 days: And your wish would be granted. An election in Ukraine!

Right now. Mr Trump is silent as he cannot face Putin to tell him to allow Ukraine to do their elections.



Only a dummy wouldn't understand this!
Food › Re: What Do You Add To Cut Down On Salty Taste Of Food? by TenQ: 8:24pm On Oct 13
Love800:
You forgot people are living on 30k salary in naija.
Then he either manage to swallow the salty soup or salvage it by cooking more.

Someone must pay for his carelessness in putting too much salt
Christianity Etc › Re: Nadine Shares Her Journey From Islam To Christianity by TenQ: 8:18pm On Oct 13
So, let me repost HERE where you got lost in trance.
Waraqa said this Jibril is the same that appeared to Moses!

Is this TRUE?


‎
compton11:
‎wrong translation plus the verse was talking about prophets/messengers BEFORE Muhammed and I don't even see where it says Satan revealed verses to them.

‎Whenever We sent a messenger or a prophet before you ˹O Prophet˺ and he recited ˹Our revelations˺, Satan would influence ˹people’s understanding of˺ his recitation. But ˹eventually˺ Allah would eliminate Satan’s influence. Then Allah would ˹firmly˺ establish His revelations. And Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.
Do you notice how many words not in the Arabic Qur'an you imputed in your verse to convey a different meanings!?

Here is a literal translation

Qur’an 22:52
“And We did not send before you any messenger or prophet except that, when he recited, Satan cast into his recitation. But Allah abolishes what Satan casts; then Allah firmly establishes His verses. And Allah is Knowing, Wise.”


a. Allah says every prophet
had recited satanic verses
b. When the satanic verses are recited by Allah's prophet Allah then abolished what satan cast's into it

1. Why and How does Shaitan and Jibril look so alike that your prophet mixes them up?
‎
‎2. Does Shaitan also have 600 wings?


‎‎
compton11:
‎as a TRIAL for those whose in whose hearts is disease.
‎Why are you
Now read the next verse
‎
‎👇‎All that so He may make Satan’s influence a trial for those ˹hypocrites˺ whose hearts are sick and those ˹disbelievers˺ whose hearts are hardened. Surely the wrongdoers are totally engrossed in opposition.
‎
Lets look into the next verse for you to see the stewpeediti in it


Qur'an 22:53
“So that He may make what Satan casts a trial for those in whose hearts is disease, and those whose hearts are hardened. And indeed, the wrongdoers are in far-reaching opposition.”


The implication of this verse is that the satanic verse was NEVER removed as it is in the Qur'an as a TRIAL for those whose in whose hearts is disease.

So, the in Qur'an 22:52, Allah CLAIMS to abolish what Satan casts into the Qur'an
BUT
Qur'an 22:53 says what satan casts is in the Qur'an as a TRIAL for those whose in whose hearts is disease.

So, you see your life on the outside!?

If you disagree with this, can you tell me then
1. IF Allah indeed abolished what satan cast's into the recitations of Mohammed, how is the words of satan still available for the people with diseases in their hearts?


I expect a dance of the broken armed bird!


‎‎
compton11:
‎is bible your supposed word of God preserved?
‎
Christians and Jews do not claim perfect preservation of the Torah or Injeel or Zabur (the Bible). Because the Books of the Bible are never in any preserved Tablet in Paradise.

It is you Muslims who revel in the Perfect Preservation of the Qur'an. You even say letter for letter, dot for dot.

Unfortunately, all of the Quran shows that it was NEVER preserved as claimed by Muslims.

Let me prove it
1. Is it TRUE that the Qur'an was revealed in SEVEN Ahruf? If it is true, what is their Names and where are they?
2. Is it true that there are at least 32 non-identical Arabic Qur'an in existence? If you deny this, I could help your memory with names and differences
3. Can you show me the verse of Breastfeeding an Adult man ten times (abrogated to five times) in the Qur'an? Who deleted it? Was it Aisha and her tame sheep?
4. Can you please provide the verse on Rajam in the Qur'an? Wasn't it revealed and recited as the Qur'an in the lifetime of your prophet?
5. Of the 32+ Arabic Qur'an in existence, can you tell me which one is the exact copy of the Qur'an of Allah in paradise?

There are more, but these fibe will do now
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‎
‎‎
compton11:
‎ bring those errors 😂😂
‎
‎Well bible don't have error right?
‎
The Bible have textual errors because the Bible is a collection of ancient manuscripts copied by hand over many centuries—contains textual variants: places where surviving manuscripts differ in spelling, word order, omissions, additions, or wording. These are easily corrected by looking at thousands of older manuscripts.

See how easy the truth is to speak!

Now, lets look at errors in the Qur'an
Let me use just Qur'an 18:83–98
1. Allah says Dhū-Qarnayn Qur'an 18:86 followed a way UNTIL he reached the setting of the sun,

Is this a scientific possibility that someone would walk on earth until he reaches the setting of the sun

2. Allah says Dhū-Qarnayn Qur'an 18:86 found the sun setting in a black muddy pool.

Does the sun at any time stay inside some hot black muddy pool? Please whatnis the name of this pool?

3. Allah says Dhū-Qarnayn Qur'an 18:86 found beside this black muddy pool a people where Allah told him to either punish these people or take some to the way of goodness

Tell me, the name of the country or nation besides the black muddy pool where the sun sets on earth. Google map is your friend!

4. Allah says Dhū-Qarnayn Qur'an 18:89-90 followed a way UNTIL he reached the rising of the sun

Is this a scientific possibility that someone would walk on earth until he reaches the rising of the sun?


5. Allah says Dhū-Qarnayn Qur'an 18:86 found the sun rising upon a people for whom he had not made any shelter or shade from the blazing sun.

Can you please tell us the tribe or people or nation on the earth for which there is no shade from the sun? They must be black like charcoal!

6. Allah says Dhū-Qarnayn Qur'an 18:92–96 then travelled to a place between two mountains and found a people who requested for his help to build barriers of IRON and COPPER after levelling these two mountain.

The problem:
The Fence or Barrier of Dhū-Qarnayn was so HIGH that Gog and Maggog couldn't climb it
AND
The wall was so [THICK] that Gog and Maggog couldn't pierce it.

To make the matters worse, it should still EXISTING because only until Allah levels it would it be destroyed.

How come the detailed Aeromagnetic maps of the Earth didn't detect this wall?

Except it is a myth of the ancients as usual


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‎‎
compton11:
Same way Jews got the story of Noah that wasn't jew.
Meaning that the claim of Jibril is just a fabrication!
Didn't Jibril dictate the Qur'an to Mohammed?

But how come Mohammed used to copy the people of the Books including fables and put it in the Qur'an?

Have you heard of the Story of the Sleepers in the Qur'an?
Are you aware that it was composed by a Christian Monk to encourage people in persecution to stay strong and not give up?


Fables like Solomon's Ring, Solomon dying for almost a year with no one knowing found themselves in the Qur'an.

Sorry: indeed it is a compilation of tales of the Ancients.


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‎‎
compton11:
Qur'an don't talk about any Miriam,nah that's bible.
‎
‎As why u acting like brother/sister usage in the olden days that mean lineage?
‎
‎Is Jesus the son of David?
‎
Jesus is called the son of David because He is a Direct Descendant of David through Mary (and even through Joseph)

Miriam (Mary) the Sister of Aaron is from the Tribe of Levi

Mary the Mother of Jesus is from the Tribe of Judah
They are NOT related.

Can you find usage in the olden days amongst the Jews where someone NOT related by Blood or Tribe or By Adoption are described as "SON of" or "DAUGHTER of"!?

It was a face saving lie my friend!
Mary the mother of Jesus and Mary the sister of Aaron are not related. They are from different tribes.


‎‎
compton11:
‎common bro don't embarrass yourself,this Hadith ain't nothing but something that has to do with identity not anything about Divine revelation.
Are you insinuating that your Hadiths are 99a% fraud!?

Is the hadith UNTRUE?

Sahih al-Bukhari 5917:
‎“The Prophet ﷺ used to copy the people of the Scriptures in matters in which there was no order from Allah. The people of the Scripture used to let their hair hang down, while the polytheists used to part their hair. So the Prophet ﷺ let his hair hang down first, but later he parted it.”



Is it UNTRUE that your prophet used to pray towards Jerusalem like the Jews before he changed it to face the Kaaba?

Is it UNTRUE that your prophet copied the law of Retribution by Moses (but misapplied it in the Qur'an)?


Have you forgotten that Allah tells you to take WHATEVER your prophet tell you?

Quran 59:7
“Whatever the Messenger gives you, take it; and whatever he forbids you, abstain from it.”

So, don't throw your Hadiths under the bus.


Are you Quran-only?
If you are, it would be unfair for me to judge you with the Hadiths







‎Here is a literal translation
‎
‎Qur’an 22:52
‎“And We did not send before you any messenger or prophet except that, when he recited, Satan cast into his recitation. But Allah abolishes what Satan casts; then Allah firmly establishes His verses. And Allah is Knowing, Wise.”

‎
‎a. Allah says every prophet
‎had recited satanic verses
‎b. When the satanic verses are recited by Allah's prophet Allah then abolished what satan cast's into it
‎
‎1. Why and How does Shaitan and Jibril look so alike that your prophet mixes them up?




‎
‎2. Does Shaitan also have 600 wings?

‎
‎
‎Lets look into the next verse for you to see the stewpeediti in it
‎
‎
‎Qur'an 22:53
‎“So that He may make what Satan casts a trial for those in whose hearts is disease, and those whose hearts are hardened. And indeed, the wrongdoers are in far-reaching opposition.”

‎
‎The implication of this verse is that the satanic verse was NEVER removed as it is in the Qur'an as a TRIAL for those whose in whose hearts is disease.
‎
‎So, the in Qur'an 22:52, Allah CLAIMS to abolish what Satan casts into the Qur'an
‎BUT
‎Qur'an 22:53 says what satan casts is in the Qur'an as a TRIAL for those whose in whose hearts is disease.
‎
‎So, you see your life on the outside!?
‎
‎If you disagree with this, can you tell me then
‎1. IF Allah indeed abolished what satan cast's into the recitations of Mohammed, how is the words of satan still available for the people with diseases in their hearts?
‎
‎
‎I expect a dance of the broken armed bird!
‎
‎
‎
‎Christians and Jews do not claim perfect preservation of the Torah or Injeel or Zabur (the Bible). Because the Books of the Bible are never in any preserved Tablet in Paradise.
‎
‎It is you Muslims who revel in the Perfect Preservation of the Qur'an. You even say letter for letter, dot for dot.
‎
‎Unfortunately, all of the Quran shows that it was NEVER preserved as claimed by Muslims.
‎
‎Let me prove it
‎1. Is it TRUE that the Qur'an was revealed in SEVEN Ahruf? If it is true, what is their Names and where are they?
‎2. Is it true that there are at least 32 non-identical Arabic Qur'an in existence? If you deny this, I could help your memory with names and differences
‎3. Can you show me the verse of Breastfeeding an Adult man ten times (abrogated to five times) in the Qur'an? Who deleted it? Was it Aisha and her tame sheep?
‎4. Can you please provide the verse on Rajam in the Qur'an? Wasn't it revealed and recited as the Qur'an in the lifetime of your prophet?
‎5. Of the 32+ Arabic Qur'an in existence, can you tell me which one is the exact copy of the Qur'an of Allah in paradise?
‎
‎There are more, but these fibe will do now
‎
‎
‎
‎The Bible have textual errors because the Bible is a collection of ancient manuscripts copied by hand over many centuries—contains textual variants: places where surviving manuscripts differ in spelling, word order, omissions, additions, or wording. These are easily corrected by looking at thousands of older manuscripts.
‎
‎See how easy the truth is to speak!
‎
‎Now, lets look at errore in the Qur'an
‎Let me use just Qur'an 18:83–98
‎1. Allah says Dhū-Qarnayn Qur'an 18:86 followed a way UNTIL he reached the setting of the sun,
‎
‎Is this a scientific possibility that someone would walk on earth until he reaches the setting of the sun
‎
‎2. Allah says Dhū-Qarnayn Qur'an 18:86 found the sun setting in a black muddy pool.
‎
‎Does the sun at any time stay inside some hot black muddy pool? Please whatnis the name of this pool?
‎
‎3. Allah says Dhū-Qarnayn Qur'an 18:86 found beside this black muddy pool a people where Allah told him to either punish these people or take some to the way of goodness
‎
‎Tell me, the name of the country or nation besides the black muddy pool where the sun sets on earth. Google map is your friend!
‎
‎4. Allah says Dhū-Qarnayn Qur'an 18:89-90 followed a way UNTIL he reached the rising of the sun
‎
‎Is this a scientific possibility that someone would walk on earth until he reaches the rising of the sun?
‎
‎
‎5. Allah says Dhū-Qarnayn Qur'an 18:86 found the sun rising upon a people for whom he had not made any shelter or shade from the blazing sun.
‎
‎Can you please tell us the tribe or people or nation on the earth for which there is no shade from the sun? They must be black like charcoal!
‎
‎6. Allah says Dhū-Qarnayn Qur'an 18:92–96 then travelled to a place between two mountains and found a people who requested for his help to build barriers of IRON and COPPER after levelling these two mountain.
‎
‎The problem:
‎The Fence or Barrier of Dhū-Qarnayn was so HIGH that Gog and Maggog couldn't climb it
‎AND
‎The wall was so [THICK] that Gog and Maggog couldn't pierce it.
‎
‎To make the matters worse, it should still EXISTING because only until Allah levels it would it be destroyed.
‎
‎How come the detailed Aeromagnetic maps of the Earth didn't detect this wall?
‎
‎Except it is a myth of the ancients as usual
‎
‎
‎
‎
‎Meaning that the claim of Jibril is just a fabrication!
‎Didn't Jibril dictate the Qur'an to Mohammed?
‎
‎But how come Mohammed used to copy the people of the Books including fables and put it in the Qur'an?
‎
‎Have you heard of the Story of the Sleepers in the Qur'an?
‎Are you aware that it was composed by a Christian Monk to encourage people in persecution to stay strong and not give up?

‎
‎Fables like Solomon's Ring, Solomon dying for almost a year with no one knowing found themselves in the Qur'an.
‎
‎Sorry: indeed it is a compilation of tales of the Ancients.
‎
‎
‎
‎
‎Jesus is called the son of David because He is a Direct Descendant of David through Mary (and even through Joseph)
‎
‎Miriam (Mary) the Sister of Aaron is from the Tribe of Levi
‎
‎Mary the Mother of Jesus is from the Tribe of Judah
‎They are NOT related.
‎
‎Can you find usage in the olden days amongst the Jews where someone NOT related by Blood or Tribe or By Adoption are described as "SON of" or "DAUGHTER of"!?
‎
‎It was a face saving lie my friend!
‎Mary the mother of Jesus and Mary the sister of Aaron are not related. They are from different tribes.
‎
‎
‎
‎Are you insinuating that your Hadiths are 99a% fraud!?
‎
‎Is the hadith UNTRUE?
‎
‎Sahih al-Bukhari 5917:
‎“The Prophet ﷺ used to copy the people of the Scriptures in matters in which there was no order from Allah. The people of the Scripture used to let their hair hang down, while the polytheists used to part their hair. So the Prophet ﷺ let his hair hang down first, but later he parted it.”

‎
‎
‎Is it UNTRUE that your prophet used to pray towards Jerusalem like the Jews before he changed it to face the Kaaba?
‎
‎Is it UNTRUE that your prophet copied the law of Retribution by Moses (but misapplied it in the Qur'an)?
‎
‎
‎Have you forgotten that Allah tells you to take WHATEVER your prophet tell you?
‎
‎Quran 59:7
‎“Whatever the Messenger gives you, take it; and whatever he forbids you, abstain from it.”

‎So, don't throw your Hadiths under the bus.
‎
‎
‎Are you Quran-only?
‎If you are, it would be unfair for me to judge you with the Hadiths
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Christianity Etc › Re: Nadine Shares Her Journey From Islam To Christianity by TenQ: 8:17pm On Oct 13
compton11:
‎Bleep that mean? What's there in alfatiha that isn't word of God? 😏
‎
Let me show you.

Quran 1:1
Allah says
"In the name of Allah , the Most Compassionate, the Most Merciful.”


Two apparitions bearing the name Allah probably why Allah uses WE and US when he is supposed to be singular

Qur'an 1:2
Allah says:
“All praise belongs to Allah, Lord of the worlds.”


The first Allah said that all praise belongs to the second Allah who is the Lord of the worlds

If you care to know, the God/Prince/Ruler of this world is a title for satan according to Jesus
John 16:11:
"Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged."


Qur'an 1:5
Allah says:
“You alone we worship, and You alone we ask for help.”


Who is Allah worshipping?
Whose help is Allah seeking?


Qur'an 1:6-7
Allah says:
“Guide us to the straight path.”
“The path of those You have favored, not of those who earned anger, nor of those who went astray.”

Allah is praying not to miss the straight path to who?


So, you can see that Someone impersonating Allah while writing forgot that Allah should be speaking and not a Muslim
BUT
This person needed a copy of a prayer similar to the Lord's Prayer in the Bible that he forgot to add the important word QUL= Say


So, to your question:
"What's there in alfatiha that isn't word of God?"
[i]1. If the Al-Fatiha is the word of Allah, then your Allah has another God whose name is Also Allah!
2. OTHERWISE, a human being composed Al-Fatiha as a beautiful Prayer for Muslims.


Your take!



compton11:
‎
‎so who inspired one that told one us different Saul age when he wanted to become King?
‎
It was a Copyist or Scribal error which is detected and corrected.

Sorry!
‎

‎‎
‎
compton11:
‎
‎‎nigga stop diverting and answer the question.

If Jubril not introducing himself makes him shaitan then what did it makes the angel that visited Mary and Samson parents?
‎
The Angel did not squeeze Mary by the neck till she almost died. Instead, the Angels said ; "Peace be unto You".
As a form of Introduction, Everyone visited by an angel must have an inspiration that the Being is a Malach of God.

Unlike one apparition that hooked the greatest holy human by the neck and almost strangled him to death.

Guess what, this man actually believed that it was a JINN that wanted to kill him. The inspiration that Momodum got was that this Apparition was a Jinn

It took the intervention of Khadija who did striptease on Momodum clothed and unclothed to prove that it was a good JINN.

Then. Waraqa sealed it by saying that the Apparition was the same Jibril that appeared unto Moses.



FROM HERE YOU WENT INTO THE KIND OF FIT MODUMODUM GETS INTO IN THE MIDDLE OF AN INSPIRATION FROM THE APPARITION.

Do you remember the Bell (a supposed instrument of shaitan)?
Do you remember the snorting of a Carmel?

Sahih Muslim (Book 7, Hadith 2654) and involves the Companion Ya'la bin Umayya.
....
Ya'la said, "Would that I see revelation coming to the Messenger of Allah ﷺ." Umar lifted a corner of the cloth, and Ya'la looked at him. He described what he saw: "he was emitting a sound of snorting. He (the narrator) said: I thought it was the sound of a camel."








‎‎
Christianity Etc › Re: Nadine Shares Her Journey From Islam To Christianity by TenQ: 7:06pm On Oct 13
NOETHNICITY:
Below is the shahada

“I bear witness that there is no god worthy of worship except Allah, and I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.”

Muslims are also allowed to replace the name of prophet Muhammad in the above shahada statement with that of any other prophet of God.
With due Respect You are being highly UNTRUTHFUL with your response here.

One CANNOT replace the name of Mohammed with ANY prophet be it Moses or Jesus or even Jibril. What could be tolerated is adding the names of these prophets after the basic Shahada WITH Mohammed as the cornerstone.

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/98b5e6a6-afc0-490c-bea9-7d0f20943160



Here are Fatwas from Sunni sources that prove you wrong

1. https://darussaafi.com/?p=5439&utm_source=perplexity

2. https://share.google/aimode/VgBZdUiL5yYhEOv77



NOETHNICITY:
How can a statement literally calls a prophet servant translate to worship in your own educational understanding?
Islam vehemently reject associating ANYTHING with Allah as it is considered IDOLATRY.

However in the Shahada, TWO names MUST appear together, Allah and Mohammed


The Shahada is INCOMPLETE without Allah's name
The Shahada is ALSO INCOMPLETE without Mohammed's name

It is not just about calling a prophet a Messenger it is the COMPOUND usage of the Name of a Human Being (Associating Partner) with Allah.





Thirdly, You carefully avoided other scenarios I painted for you to show that Mohammed is actually the pseudo-Allah or deputy-Allah

AGAIN I SAID:
You actually worship Mohammed as partner with God even when with your mouth you deny it.

1. You associate the knowledge of Allah with the knowledge of Mohammed.

Isnt it true that Allah and his apostle knows best?


3. You associate the aura and glory of Allah with that of Mohammed.

Is this not why the sin of Blasphemy against your prophet must result in execution!?

4. Even your Qur'an says BOTH Allah and Mohammed's commands are unquestionable for you
Qur’an 33:36:
“It is not for a believing man or woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decreed a matter, to have any choice in their affair. Whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger has clearly gone astray.”


Qur'an 24:51
When called to Allah and His Messenger to judge between them, believers say, “We hear and obey.”





So, you see why you Muslims worship a man called Mohammed!

Food › Re: What Do You Add To Cut Down On Salty Taste Of Food? by TenQ: 4:48pm On Oct 13
StevenMarley:
Chefs and cooks in the house, abeg help a brother before my Sunday soup enter voicemail
If your soup is too salty, don't panic.
Put it in the fridge, cook a fresh pot of soup TWICE the initial pot size wit EVERYTHING but Salt and Seasoning.

When it is done, mix your One Part Salty Soup with Two Parts Unseasoned Soup.

Enjoy!
Christianity Etc › Re: Nadine Shares Her Journey From Islam To Christianity by TenQ:
compton11:
‎is bible not dictation from God?
‎
‎If it's not,why calling it word of God when it's also involved human narrated story?
‎
As if the Qur'an does not bear signatures of people other than Allah composing words.

Is Al-Fatiha the words of your Allah?
If it is, who was Allah praying to?

Read my lips:
None of the books of the Bible is a dictation by God!.
They are inspired!

The Bible is called the Word of God because the Writings of the Chronicles are INSPIRED by God.
Since you won't understand, let me break it down. God tells His Chosen person to chronicle His dealings with His people and the results of their Obedience or Disobedience so that prosperity can learn. Thus, this Chosen person WRITES according to his knowledge of Events of the Past and Current events as instructed.

Again:
Your prophet thought the word of God mean dictations ALAS, he goofed. He then began to compose words claiming it is from Allah!




‎
compton11:
‎ christians will use logic whine u😂 and be dumb whenever they apply that same logic to them.
‎
‎So because Gabriel didn't introduce himself that makes him the devil?
‎
‎
‎Wow that means it was devil that also visited Mary (Luke 1:26–38) and Samson parents (Judges 13)cos the messengers that gave them message never introduced themselves.
‎
Unfortunately, you Muslims ascribed the Name of the Angel in the Torah and Injeel as your own, thus onus is on you to show that it was indeed Gabriel that appeared to Mohammed.

You may wish to explain how Mohammad knew that the Apparition is Jibril as Gabriel NEVER ever squeezes anyone not forget to declare peace to the recipient of a message.

Waraqa said this Jibril is the same that appeared to Moses!

Is this TRUE?


‎
compton11:
‎wrong translation plus the verse was talking about prophets/messengers BEFORE Muhammed and I don't even see where it says Satan revealed verses to them.

‎Whenever We sent a messenger or a prophet before you ˹O Prophet˺ and he recited ˹Our revelations˺, Satan would influence ˹people’s understanding of˺ his recitation. But ˹eventually˺ Allah would eliminate Satan’s influence. Then Allah would ˹firmly˺ establish His revelations. And Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.
Do you notice how many words not in the Arabic Qur'an you imputed in your verse to convey a different meanings!?

Here is a literal translation

Qur’an 22:52
“And We did not send before you any messenger or prophet except that, when he recited, Satan cast into his recitation. But Allah abolishes what Satan casts; then Allah firmly establishes His verses. And Allah is Knowing, Wise.”


a. Allah says every prophet
had recited satanic verses
b. When the satanic verses are recited by Allah's prophet Allah then abolished what satan cast's into it

1. Why and How does Shaitan and Jibril look so alike that your prophet mixes them up?
‎
‎2. Does Shaitan also have 600 wings?


‎‎
compton11:
‎as a TRIAL for those whose in whose hearts is disease.
‎Why are you
Now read the next verse
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‎👇‎All that so He may make Satan’s influence a trial for those ˹hypocrites˺ whose hearts are sick and those ˹disbelievers˺ whose hearts are hardened. Surely the wrongdoers are totally engrossed in opposition.
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Lets look into the next verse for you to see the stewpeediti in it


Qur'an 22:53
“So that He may make what Satan casts a trial for those in whose hearts is disease, and those whose hearts are hardened. And indeed, the wrongdoers are in far-reaching opposition.”


The implication of this verse is that the satanic verse was NEVER removed as it is in the Qur'an as a TRIAL for those whose in whose hearts is disease.

So, the in Qur'an 22:52, Allah CLAIMS to abolish what Satan casts into the Qur'an
BUT
Qur'an 22:53 says what satan casts is in the Qur'an as a TRIAL for those whose in whose hearts is disease.

So, you see your life on the outside!?

If you disagree with this, can you tell me then
1. IF Allah indeed abolished what satan cast's into the recitations of Mohammed, how is the words of satan still available for the people with diseases in their hearts?


I expect a dance of the broken armed bird!


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compton11:
‎is bible your supposed word of God preserved?
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Christians and Jews do not claim perfect preservation of the Torah or Injeel or Zabur (the Bible). Because the Books of the Bible are never in any preserved Tablet in Paradise.

It is you Muslims who revel in the Perfect Preservation of the Qur'an. You even say letter for letter, dot for dot.

Unfortunately, all of the Quran shows that it was NEVER preserved as claimed by Muslims.

Let me prove it
1. Is it TRUE that the Qur'an was revealed in SEVEN Ahruf? If it is true, what is their Names and where are they?
2. Is it true that there are at least 32 non-identical Arabic Qur'an in existence? If you deny this, I could help your memory with names and differences
3. Can you show me the verse of Breastfeeding an Adult man ten times (abrogated to five times) in the Qur'an? Who deleted it? Was it Aisha and her tame sheep?
4. Can you please provide the verse on Rajam in the Qur'an? Wasn't it revealed and recited as the Qur'an in the lifetime of your prophet?
5. Of the 32+ Arabic Qur'an in existence, can you tell me which one is the exact copy of the Qur'an of Allah in paradise?

There are more, but these fibe will do now
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compton11:
‎ bring those errors 😂😂
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‎Well bible don't have error right?
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The Bible have textual errors because the Bible is a collection of ancient manuscripts copied by hand over many centuries—contains textual variants: places where surviving manuscripts differ in spelling, word order, omissions, additions, or wording. These are easily corrected by looking at thousands of older manuscripts.

See how easy the truth is to speak!

Now, lets look at errore in the Qur'an
Let me use just Qur'an 18:83–98
1. Allah says Dhū-Qarnayn Qur'an 18:86 followed a way UNTIL he reached the setting of the sun,

Is this a scientific possibility that someone would walk on earth until he reaches the setting of the sun

2. Allah says Dhū-Qarnayn Qur'an 18:86 found the sun setting in a black muddy pool.

Does the sun at any time stay inside some hot black muddy pool? Please whatnis the name of this pool?

3. Allah says Dhū-Qarnayn Qur'an 18:86 found beside this black muddy pool a people where Allah told him to either punish these people or take some to the way of goodness

Tell me, the name of the country or nation besides the black muddy pool where the sun sets on earth. Google map is your friend!

4. Allah says Dhū-Qarnayn Qur'an 18:89-90 followed a way UNTIL he reached the rising of the sun

Is this a scientific possibility that someone would walk on earth until he reaches the rising of the sun?


5. Allah says Dhū-Qarnayn Qur'an 18:86 found the sun rising upon a people for whom he had not made any shelter or shade from the blazing sun.

Can you please tell us the tribe or people or nation on the earth for which there is no shade from the sun? They must be black like charcoal!

6. Allah says Dhū-Qarnayn Qur'an 18:92–96 then travelled to a place between two mountains and found a people who requested for his help to build barriers of IRON and COPPER after levelling these two mountain.

The problem:
The Fence or Barrier of Dhū-Qarnayn was so HIGH that Gog and Maggog couldn't climb it
AND
The wall was so [THICK] that Gog and Maggog couldn't pierce it.

To make the matters worse, it should still EXISTING because only until Allah levels it would it be destroyed.

How come the detailed Aeromagnetic maps of the Earth didn't detect this wall?

Except it is a myth of the ancients as usual


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compton11:
Same way Jews got the story of Noah that wasn't jew.
Meaning that the claim of Jibril is just a fabrication!
Didn't Jibril dictate the Qur'an to Mohammed?

But how come Mohammed used to copy the people of the Books including fables and put it in the Qur'an?

Have you heard of the Story of the Sleepers in the Qur'an?
Are you aware that it was composed by a Christian Monk to encourage people in persecution to stay strong and not give up?


Fables like Solomon's Ring, Solomon dying for almost a year with no one knowing found themselves in the Qur'an.

Sorry: indeed it is a compilation of tales of the Ancients.


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compton11:
Qur'an don't talk about any Miriam,nah that's bible.
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‎As why u acting like brother/sister usage in the olden days that mean lineage?
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‎Is Jesus the son of David?
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Jesus is called the son of David because He is a Direct Descendant of David through Mary (and even through Joseph)

Miriam (Mary) the Sister of Aaron is from the Tribe of Levi

Mary the Mother of Jesus is from the Tribe of Judah
They are NOT related.

Can you find usage in the olden days amongst the Jews where someone NOT related by Blood or Tribe or By Adoption are described as "SON of" or "DAUGHTER of"!?

It was a face saving lie my friend!
Mary the mother of Jesus and Mary the sister of Aaron are not related. They are from different tribes.


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compton11:
‎common bro don't embarrass yourself,this Hadith ain't nothing but something that has to do with identity not anything about Divine revelation.
Are you insinuating that your Hadiths are 99a% fraud!?

Is the hadith UNTRUE?

Sahih al-Bukhari 5917:
‎“The Prophet ﷺ used to copy the people of the Scriptures in matters in which there was no order from Allah. The people of the Scripture used to let their hair hang down, while the polytheists used to part their hair. So the Prophet ﷺ let his hair hang down first, but later he parted it.”



Is it UNTRUE that your prophet used to pray towards Jerusalem like the Jews before he changed it to face the Kaaba?

Is it UNTRUE that your prophet copied the law of Retribution by Moses (but misapplied it in the Qur'an)?


Have you forgotten that Allah tells you to take WHATEVER your prophet tell you?

Quran 59:7
“Whatever the Messenger gives you, take it; and whatever he forbids you, abstain from it.”

So, don't throw your Hadiths under the bus.


Are you Quran-only?
If you are, it would be unfair for me to judge you with the Hadiths
Islam › Re: Divorce In Islam by TenQ: 9:57am On Oct 13
Here is Marriage and Divorce according to Jesus
1. According to Jesus, Marriage is in addition a spiritual union between a man and a woman.
Therefore, it is God who joins people together in marriage
2. Divorce is forbidden except in the case of Fornication/Adultery by one of the parties
3. Marrying a divorced man or woman constitutes Adultery against the spouse of the person (except if he is dead) because God did not break the spiritual union
4. There is no marriage or remarrying in heaven.
5. Moses permitted divorce for the children of Israel because of their hard heartedness : BUT it wasn't God's plan for marriage. A married couple according to God should become ONE in essence.

Any other acts of any Pastor or Bishop or Church members against this is human flesh at work.

Do you need scriptures for eaxh of these?


Unlike one religion where if a woman is divorced rashly by the husband thrice, she cannot return until she becomes humiliated again by tasting the orgasm of another man, divorce him , then return to her original rash husband


Rashduct4luv:
Of course he is the best example for mankind. Can you write a concise post like the OP on divorce from the Bible as traced to Jesus?

The Iddah period for the free is not the same with that of the captives. Captives have lesser waiting period.
The best example of mankind is the one who doesn't obey the command of his God!?

1. Is it UNTRUE that Safiyya was not treated as a sex slave BUT she was MARRIED by Mohammed thus your claim is invalid
2. She was widowed by you Muslims, thus
Qur'an 2:235
“And those of you who die and leave wives behind—the widows shall wait by themselves for four months and ten days. When they reach the end of their waiting period, there is no blame on you for what they decide for themselves in a reasonable manner. And Allah is fully aware of what you do.”

3. The purpose of Iddah is to ensure that offspring of the woman can be traced to the father.

Quran 33:5
“Call them by the names of their fathers; that is more just in the sight of Allah. But if you do not know their fathers, then they are your brothers in religion and your close associates. There is no blame on you for what you do by mistake, but only for what your hearts deliberately intend. And Allah is ever Forgiving and Merciful.”


Otherwise, show me explicitly where marriage with a married slave required no Iddah period.
Christianity Etc › Re: Nadine Shares Her Journey From Islam To Christianity by TenQ: 8:34am On Oct 13
NOETHNICITY:
You are free to concoct whatever ideas you like about what I worship, especially when you have no evidence to support your claims.

When I say that Christians worship a man, they do not deny it because they believe that the man they worship is also God. What people truly worship is never a mystery to them; they have a clear understanding of the object of their worship.

As a Muslim, I know that I do not worship a man. My Prophet is as much a servant of the same God I worship as I am.

You are, of course, free to hold whatever opinion you wish. However, if you follow my arguments closely, you will see that they have been based on evidence, not mere speculation.

I will not respond to you again if you make an argument about religion unless you present arguments supported by clear references to my scripture.
You actually worship Mohammed as partner with God even when with your mouth you deny it.

1. You associate the knowledge of Allah with the knowledge of Mohammed.

Isnt it true that Allah amd his apostle knows best?

2. You associate the name of Allah and Mohammed together in your shahada.

Can anyone become a Muslim without testifying his belief in Mohammed?

3. You associate the aura and glory of Allah with that of Mohammed.

Is this not why the sin of Blasphemy against your prophet must result in execution!?

4. Even your Qur'an says BOTH Allah and Mohammed's commands are unquestionable for you
Qur’an 33:36:
“It is not for a believing man or woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decreed a matter, to have any choice in their affair. Whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger has clearly gone astray.”


Qur'an 24:51
When called to Allah and His Messenger to judge between them, believers say, “We hear and obey.”



Sorry, you worship a man called Mohammed!
Christianity Etc › Re: Nadine Shares Her Journey From Islam To Christianity by TenQ: 8:23am On Oct 13
compton11:
with all these that u wrote,why u acting like the Noah history from Bible wasn't inspired by Yahweh?

Just like how u said earlier, Muhammad inspired by Jubril (who was sent by God)
Only the Qur'an claim to be a DICTATION from God. There exist no other scripture other than the Qur'an that claims this. Mohammed thinking the word of God means dictation by God fabricated words and claimed it is from Allah!
SMH!

The apparition called Jibril never introduced himself.
Waraqa did the introduction on behalf of Mohammed.

Jibril is shaitan who puts words in Mohammed's mouth.

Qur’an 22:52
“We did not send before you any messenger or prophet except that, when he tamannā, Satan cast something into his umniyya; but Allah removes what Satan casts, then Allah makes His signs firm. Allah is Knowing, Wise.”


1. Why and How does Shaitan and Jibril look so alike that your prophet mixes them up?

2. Does Shaitan also have 600 wings?



compton11:
same thing we are saying nigga,the older versions were e corrupt and diluted,then then Yahweh revealed the factual one to Moses, didn't he?

Plus Moses or isrealites slaves were unlettered of all these language that recorded all these.
1. We are NOT saying the same thing sir.
2. Allah believes the scriptures are preserved
3. Mohammed believed that the scriptures are preserved
BUT
4. Your scholars saw otherwise contradictions they cannot explain.

Sorry.

The Quran is full of ERRORS that cannot be made by the true God.

Here is the most damning verse of the Qur'an

Qur’an 4:82:
“Do they not reflect upon the Qur’an? If it had been from other than Allah, they would surely have found in it much inconsistency.”


At least we can test it for its validity.

compton11:
The oral history of Jesus was also common among the Arabs before prophet Muhammad came ,and when he came he was given the 100% factual one


So what exactly is the problem?
How did the story of Jesus get to the Arabs?
By inspiration or by plagiarism?

No wonder Miriam the sister of Aaron was confused with Mary the mother of Jesus.


We know where Mohammed got his stories

Sahih al-Bukhari 5917:
“The Prophet ﷺ used to copy the people of the Scriptures in matters in which there was no order from Allah. The people of the Scripture used to let their hair hang down, while the polytheists used to part their hair. So the Prophet ﷺ let his hair hang down first, but later he parted it.”
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia Rejects 60-Days Ceasefire Proposed By Ukraine (Photos) by TenQ: 9:28pm On Oct 12
Kaliningrad:

🔗 Jerusalem Post | | RBC Ukraine
Fuuuuls do not see that the 60 days message was meant for Mr Trump the Saviour and Deliverer of Putin and not Putin himself!


The Joke is on Trump who thinks Russian Diesel will solve the problem he created by invading Iran.

But the blind truly cannot see!
SMH!
Christianity Etc › Re: Nadine Shares Her Journey From Islam To Christianity by TenQ: 9:21pm On Oct 12
compton11:
story of Noah that was 1000 years ago,ok? Not diluted,still 100% fact?

So the story of Noah that Moses wrote in bible was told by who?

Yahweh or Israelites??
Your iggnnorrancccevis exceeded only by your iggnnorrancccevis.

I said
1. Moses knowledge wasn't dictated by YHWH. It was a common knowledge to the Jews. Moses was commissioned to ACCURATELY chronicle it.

2. Mohammed was unlettered. Allah sent Jibril to dictate the eternal Qur'an from the mother of the book in paradise. Isnt the Qur'an the explicit words of Allah!?
I hereby show you ancient nations with corrupted versions of these ancient stories



You think it was only Moses that knew the story of the Flood!?

The Sumerians recorded their version of the Noahs flood in Ziusudra in the Eridu Genesis


The Akkadian/Babylonian recorded their version of the Noahs flood with Atraḫasis as their Noah


The Greek recorded their version of the Noahs flood with Deucalion and Pyrrha as their Noah


With respect to the creation story and Adam and Eve, several cultures have their own versions

The Sumerians had a story of Enki and Ninhursag / Dilmun who ate of a plant that brought curse on the earth

The Akkadian had a story with Adapa the first human who was offered food and drink of life; advice leads him to refuse them, and immortality is lost.

The Greek instead of the Garden of Eden had the Garden of the Hesperides : A divine garden, with a special fruit, and a serpent/dragon guardian.



Or the Tower of Babel where languages were split and multiplied amongst humans

The Sumerians and the Mesopotamians had a story where Enki causes the once-unified speech of peoples to become many; the story also involves temple-building instead of the tower of Babel




Every Ancient culture had their versions of these stories.

Like I said:
Moses was commissioned by God to chronicle the accurate history while concentrating of Abraham, God's promise to him and Israel with God's covenant with them.

Abraham was the descendants of Shem one of Noahs three sons.


Apologise for wasting my time educating your royal iggnnorrancccevis!

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