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Christianity Etc › Re: Nadine Shares Her Journey From Islam To Christianity by TenQ:
compton11:
‎is bible not dictation from God?
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‎If it's not,why calling it word of God when it's also involved human narrated story?
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As if the Qur'an does not bear signatures of people other than Allah composing words.

Is Al-Fatiha the words of your Allah?
If it is, who was Allah praying to?

Read my lips:
None of the books of the Bible is a dictation by God!.
They are inspired!

The Bible is called the Word of God because the Writings of the Chronicles are INSPIRED by God.
Since you won't understand, let me break it down. God tells His Chosen person to chronicle His dealings with His people and the results of their Obedience or Disobedience so that prosperity can learn. Thus, this Chosen person WRITES according to his knowledge of Events of the Past and Current events as instructed.

Again:
Your prophet thought the word of God mean dictations ALAS, he goofed. He then began to compose words claiming it is from Allah!




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compton11:
‎ christians will use logic whine u😂 and be dumb whenever they apply that same logic to them.
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‎So because Gabriel didn't introduce himself that makes him the devil?
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‎Wow that means it was devil that also visited Mary (Luke 1:26–38) and Samson parents (Judges 13)cos the messengers that gave them message never introduced themselves.
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Unfortunately, you Muslims ascribed the Name of the Angel in the Torah and Injeel as your own, thus onus is on you to show that it was indeed Gabriel that appeared to Mohammed.

You may wish to explain how Mohammad knew that the Apparition is Jibril as Gabriel NEVER ever squeezes anyone not forget to declare peace to the recipient of a message.

Waraqa said this Jibril is the same that appeared to Moses!

Is this TRUE?


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compton11:
‎wrong translation plus the verse was talking about prophets/messengers BEFORE Muhammed and I don't even see where it says Satan revealed verses to them.

‎Whenever We sent a messenger or a prophet before you ˹O Prophet˺ and he recited ˹Our revelations˺, Satan would influence ˹people’s understanding of˺ his recitation. But ˹eventually˺ Allah would eliminate Satan’s influence. Then Allah would ˹firmly˺ establish His revelations. And Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.
Do you notice how many words not in the Arabic Qur'an you imputed in your verse to convey a different meanings!?

Here is a literal translation

Qur’an 22:52
“And We did not send before you any messenger or prophet except that, when he recited, Satan cast into his recitation. But Allah abolishes what Satan casts; then Allah firmly establishes His verses. And Allah is Knowing, Wise.”


a. Allah says every prophet
had recited satanic verses
b. When the satanic verses are recited by Allah's prophet Allah then abolished what satan cast's into it

1. Why and How does Shaitan and Jibril look so alike that your prophet mixes them up?
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‎2. Does Shaitan also have 600 wings?


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compton11:
‎as a TRIAL for those whose in whose hearts is disease.
‎Why are you
Now read the next verse
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‎👇‎All that so He may make Satan’s influence a trial for those ˹hypocrites˺ whose hearts are sick and those ˹disbelievers˺ whose hearts are hardened. Surely the wrongdoers are totally engrossed in opposition.
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Lets look into the next verse for you to see the stewpeediti in it


Qur'an 22:53
“So that He may make what Satan casts a trial for those in whose hearts is disease, and those whose hearts are hardened. And indeed, the wrongdoers are in far-reaching opposition.”


The implication of this verse is that the satanic verse was NEVER removed as it is in the Qur'an as a TRIAL for those whose in whose hearts is disease.

So, the in Qur'an 22:52, Allah CLAIMS to abolish what Satan casts into the Qur'an
BUT
Qur'an 22:53 says what satan casts is in the Qur'an as a TRIAL for those whose in whose hearts is disease.

So, you see your life on the outside!?

If you disagree with this, can you tell me then
1. IF Allah indeed abolished what satan cast's into the recitations of Mohammed, how is the words of satan still available for the people with diseases in their hearts?


I expect a dance of the broken armed bird!


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compton11:
‎is bible your supposed word of God preserved?
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Christians and Jews do not claim perfect preservation of the Torah or Injeel or Zabur (the Bible). Because the Books of the Bible are never in any preserved Tablet in Paradise.

It is you Muslims who revel in the Perfect Preservation of the Qur'an. You even say letter for letter, dot for dot.

Unfortunately, all of the Quran shows that it was NEVER preserved as claimed by Muslims.

Let me prove it
1. Is it TRUE that the Qur'an was revealed in SEVEN Ahruf? If it is true, what is their Names and where are they?
2. Is it true that there are at least 32 non-identical Arabic Qur'an in existence? If you deny this, I could help your memory with names and differences
3. Can you show me the verse of Breastfeeding an Adult man ten times (abrogated to five times) in the Qur'an? Who deleted it? Was it Aisha and her tame sheep?
4. Can you please provide the verse on Rajam in the Qur'an? Wasn't it revealed and recited as the Qur'an in the lifetime of your prophet?
5. Of the 32+ Arabic Qur'an in existence, can you tell me which one is the exact copy of the Qur'an of Allah in paradise?

There are more, but these fibe will do now
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compton11:
‎ bring those errors 😂😂
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‎Well bible don't have error right?
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The Bible have textual errors because the Bible is a collection of ancient manuscripts copied by hand over many centuries—contains textual variants: places where surviving manuscripts differ in spelling, word order, omissions, additions, or wording. These are easily corrected by looking at thousands of older manuscripts.

See how easy the truth is to speak!

Now, lets look at errore in the Qur'an
Let me use just Qur'an 18:83–98
1. Allah says Dhū-Qarnayn Qur'an 18:86 followed a way UNTIL he reached the setting of the sun,

Is this a scientific possibility that someone would walk on earth until he reaches the setting of the sun

2. Allah says Dhū-Qarnayn Qur'an 18:86 found the sun setting in a black muddy pool.

Does the sun at any time stay inside some hot black muddy pool? Please whatnis the name of this pool?

3. Allah says Dhū-Qarnayn Qur'an 18:86 found beside this black muddy pool a people where Allah told him to either punish these people or take some to the way of goodness

Tell me, the name of the country or nation besides the black muddy pool where the sun sets on earth. Google map is your friend!

4. Allah says Dhū-Qarnayn Qur'an 18:89-90 followed a way UNTIL he reached the rising of the sun

Is this a scientific possibility that someone would walk on earth until he reaches the rising of the sun?


5. Allah says Dhū-Qarnayn Qur'an 18:86 found the sun rising upon a people for whom he had not made any shelter or shade from the blazing sun.

Can you please tell us the tribe or people or nation on the earth for which there is no shade from the sun? They must be black like charcoal!

6. Allah says Dhū-Qarnayn Qur'an 18:92–96 then travelled to a place between two mountains and found a people who requested for his help to build barriers of IRON and COPPER after levelling these two mountain.

The problem:
The Fence or Barrier of Dhū-Qarnayn was so HIGH that Gog and Maggog couldn't climb it
AND
The wall was so [THICK] that Gog and Maggog couldn't pierce it.

To make the matters worse, it should still EXISTING because only until Allah levels it would it be destroyed.

How come the detailed Aeromagnetic maps of the Earth didn't detect this wall?

Except it is a myth of the ancients as usual


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compton11:
Same way Jews got the story of Noah that wasn't jew.
Meaning that the claim of Jibril is just a fabrication!
Didn't Jibril dictate the Qur'an to Mohammed?

But how come Mohammed used to copy the people of the Books including fables and put it in the Qur'an?

Have you heard of the Story of the Sleepers in the Qur'an?
Are you aware that it was composed by a Christian Monk to encourage people in persecution to stay strong and not give up?


Fables like Solomon's Ring, Solomon dying for almost a year with no one knowing found themselves in the Qur'an.

Sorry: indeed it is a compilation of tales of the Ancients.


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compton11:
Qur'an don't talk about any Miriam,nah that's bible.
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‎As why u acting like brother/sister usage in the olden days that mean lineage?
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‎Is Jesus the son of David?
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Jesus is called the son of David because He is a Direct Descendant of David through Mary (and even through Joseph)

Miriam (Mary) the Sister of Aaron is from the Tribe of Levi

Mary the Mother of Jesus is from the Tribe of Judah
They are NOT related.

Can you find usage in the olden days amongst the Jews where someone NOT related by Blood or Tribe or By Adoption are described as "SON of" or "DAUGHTER of"!?

It was a face saving lie my friend!
Mary the mother of Jesus and Mary the sister of Aaron are not related. They are from different tribes.


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compton11:
‎common bro don't embarrass yourself,this Hadith ain't nothing but something that has to do with identity not anything about Divine revelation.
Are you insinuating that your Hadiths are 99a% fraud!?

Is the hadith UNTRUE?

Sahih al-Bukhari 5917:
‎“The Prophet ﷺ used to copy the people of the Scriptures in matters in which there was no order from Allah. The people of the Scripture used to let their hair hang down, while the polytheists used to part their hair. So the Prophet ﷺ let his hair hang down first, but later he parted it.”



Is it UNTRUE that your prophet used to pray towards Jerusalem like the Jews before he changed it to face the Kaaba?

Is it UNTRUE that your prophet copied the law of Retribution by Moses (but misapplied it in the Qur'an)?


Have you forgotten that Allah tells you to take WHATEVER your prophet tell you?

Quran 59:7
“Whatever the Messenger gives you, take it; and whatever he forbids you, abstain from it.”

So, don't throw your Hadiths under the bus.


Are you Quran-only?
If you are, it would be unfair for me to judge you with the Hadiths
Islam › Re: Divorce In Islam by TenQ: 9:57am On Oct 13
Here is Marriage and Divorce according to Jesus
1. According to Jesus, Marriage is in addition a spiritual union between a man and a woman.
Therefore, it is God who joins people together in marriage
2. Divorce is forbidden except in the case of Fornication/Adultery by one of the parties
3. Marrying a divorced man or woman constitutes Adultery against the spouse of the person (except if he is dead) because God did not break the spiritual union
4. There is no marriage or remarrying in heaven.
5. Moses permitted divorce for the children of Israel because of their hard heartedness : BUT it wasn't God's plan for marriage. A married couple according to God should become ONE in essence.

Any other acts of any Pastor or Bishop or Church members against this is human flesh at work.

Do you need scriptures for eaxh of these?


Unlike one religion where if a woman is divorced rashly by the husband thrice, she cannot return until she becomes humiliated again by tasting the orgasm of another man, divorce him , then return to her original rash husband


Rashduct4luv:
Of course he is the best example for mankind. Can you write a concise post like the OP on divorce from the Bible as traced to Jesus?

The Iddah period for the free is not the same with that of the captives. Captives have lesser waiting period.
The best example of mankind is the one who doesn't obey the command of his God!?

1. Is it UNTRUE that Safiyya was not treated as a sex slave BUT she was MARRIED by Mohammed thus your claim is invalid
2. She was widowed by you Muslims, thus
Qur'an 2:235
“And those of you who die and leave wives behind—the widows shall wait by themselves for four months and ten days. When they reach the end of their waiting period, there is no blame on you for what they decide for themselves in a reasonable manner. And Allah is fully aware of what you do.”

3. The purpose of Iddah is to ensure that offspring of the woman can be traced to the father.

Quran 33:5
“Call them by the names of their fathers; that is more just in the sight of Allah. But if you do not know their fathers, then they are your brothers in religion and your close associates. There is no blame on you for what you do by mistake, but only for what your hearts deliberately intend. And Allah is ever Forgiving and Merciful.”


Otherwise, show me explicitly where marriage with a married slave required no Iddah period.
Christianity Etc › Re: Nadine Shares Her Journey From Islam To Christianity by TenQ: 8:34am On Oct 13
NOETHNICITY:
You are free to concoct whatever ideas you like about what I worship, especially when you have no evidence to support your claims.

When I say that Christians worship a man, they do not deny it because they believe that the man they worship is also God. What people truly worship is never a mystery to them; they have a clear understanding of the object of their worship.

As a Muslim, I know that I do not worship a man. My Prophet is as much a servant of the same God I worship as I am.

You are, of course, free to hold whatever opinion you wish. However, if you follow my arguments closely, you will see that they have been based on evidence, not mere speculation.

I will not respond to you again if you make an argument about religion unless you present arguments supported by clear references to my scripture.
You actually worship Mohammed as partner with God even when with your mouth you deny it.

1. You associate the knowledge of Allah with the knowledge of Mohammed.

Isnt it true that Allah amd his apostle knows best?

2. You associate the name of Allah and Mohammed together in your shahada.

Can anyone become a Muslim without testifying his belief in Mohammed?

3. You associate the aura and glory of Allah with that of Mohammed.

Is this not why the sin of Blasphemy against your prophet must result in execution!?

4. Even your Qur'an says BOTH Allah and Mohammed's commands are unquestionable for you
Qur’an 33:36:
“It is not for a believing man or woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decreed a matter, to have any choice in their affair. Whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger has clearly gone astray.”


Qur'an 24:51
When called to Allah and His Messenger to judge between them, believers say, “We hear and obey.”



Sorry, you worship a man called Mohammed!
Christianity Etc › Re: Nadine Shares Her Journey From Islam To Christianity by TenQ: 8:23am On Oct 13
compton11:
with all these that u wrote,why u acting like the Noah history from Bible wasn't inspired by Yahweh?

Just like how u said earlier, Muhammad inspired by Jubril (who was sent by God)
Only the Qur'an claim to be a DICTATION from God. There exist no other scripture other than the Qur'an that claims this. Mohammed thinking the word of God means dictation by God fabricated words and claimed it is from Allah!
SMH!

The apparition called Jibril never introduced himself.
Waraqa did the introduction on behalf of Mohammed.

Jibril is shaitan who puts words in Mohammed's mouth.

Qur’an 22:52
“We did not send before you any messenger or prophet except that, when he tamannā, Satan cast something into his umniyya; but Allah removes what Satan casts, then Allah makes His signs firm. Allah is Knowing, Wise.”


1. Why and How does Shaitan and Jibril look so alike that your prophet mixes them up?

2. Does Shaitan also have 600 wings?



compton11:
same thing we are saying nigga,the older versions were e corrupt and diluted,then then Yahweh revealed the factual one to Moses, didn't he?

Plus Moses or isrealites slaves were unlettered of all these language that recorded all these.
1. We are NOT saying the same thing sir.
2. Allah believes the scriptures are preserved
3. Mohammed believed that the scriptures are preserved
BUT
4. Your scholars saw otherwise contradictions they cannot explain.

Sorry.

The Quran is full of ERRORS that cannot be made by the true God.

Here is the most damning verse of the Qur'an

Qur’an 4:82:
“Do they not reflect upon the Qur’an? If it had been from other than Allah, they would surely have found in it much inconsistency.”


At least we can test it for its validity.

compton11:
The oral history of Jesus was also common among the Arabs before prophet Muhammad came ,and when he came he was given the 100% factual one


So what exactly is the problem?
How did the story of Jesus get to the Arabs?
By inspiration or by plagiarism?

No wonder Miriam the sister of Aaron was confused with Mary the mother of Jesus.


We know where Mohammed got his stories

Sahih al-Bukhari 5917:
“The Prophet ﷺ used to copy the people of the Scriptures in matters in which there was no order from Allah. The people of the Scripture used to let their hair hang down, while the polytheists used to part their hair. So the Prophet ﷺ let his hair hang down first, but later he parted it.”
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia Rejects 60-Days Ceasefire Proposed By Ukraine (Photos) by TenQ: 9:28pm On Oct 12
Kaliningrad:

🔗 Jerusalem Post | | RBC Ukraine
Fuuuuls do not see that the 60 days message was meant for Mr Trump the Saviour and Deliverer of Putin and not Putin himself!


The Joke is on Trump who thinks Russian Diesel will solve the problem he created by invading Iran.

But the blind truly cannot see!
SMH!
Christianity Etc › Re: Nadine Shares Her Journey From Islam To Christianity by TenQ: 9:21pm On Oct 12
compton11:
story of Noah that was 1000 years ago,ok? Not diluted,still 100% fact?

So the story of Noah that Moses wrote in bible was told by who?

Yahweh or Israelites??
Your iggnnorrancccevis exceeded only by your iggnnorrancccevis.

I said
1. Moses knowledge wasn't dictated by YHWH. It was a common knowledge to the Jews. Moses was commissioned to ACCURATELY chronicle it.

2. Mohammed was unlettered. Allah sent Jibril to dictate the eternal Qur'an from the mother of the book in paradise. Isnt the Qur'an the explicit words of Allah!?
I hereby show you ancient nations with corrupted versions of these ancient stories



You think it was only Moses that knew the story of the Flood!?

The Sumerians recorded their version of the Noahs flood in Ziusudra in the Eridu Genesis


The Akkadian/Babylonian recorded their version of the Noahs flood with Atraḫasis as their Noah


The Greek recorded their version of the Noahs flood with Deucalion and Pyrrha as their Noah


With respect to the creation story and Adam and Eve, several cultures have their own versions

The Sumerians had a story of Enki and Ninhursag / Dilmun who ate of a plant that brought curse on the earth

The Akkadian had a story with Adapa the first human who was offered food and drink of life; advice leads him to refuse them, and immortality is lost.

The Greek instead of the Garden of Eden had the Garden of the Hesperides : A divine garden, with a special fruit, and a serpent/dragon guardian.



Or the Tower of Babel where languages were split and multiplied amongst humans

The Sumerians and the Mesopotamians had a story where Enki causes the once-unified speech of peoples to become many; the story also involves temple-building instead of the tower of Babel




Every Ancient culture had their versions of these stories.

Like I said:
Moses was commissioned by God to chronicle the accurate history while concentrating of Abraham, God's promise to him and Israel with God's covenant with them.

Abraham was the descendants of Shem one of Noahs three sons.


Apologise for wasting my time educating your royal iggnnorrancccevis!
Christianity Etc › Re: Nadine Shares Her Journey From Islam To Christianity by TenQ: 8:44pm On Oct 12
mrkia:
Why would some1 with an intelect to research leave Islam?


Islam explicitly sees itself as restoring the religion of Abraham - _millat Ibrahim_ - (Whom you fondly called Father of Faith) Go through the following and see for yourself why Islam is the true religion with Allah, the God of Abraham:

*1. Worship posture:*
Prostration with face to the ground. You see it in Genesis 17:3 (Abraham fell on his face), Numbers 20:6 (Moses and Aaron), Joshua 5:14, and Jesus in Matthew 26:39. It's the standard position of _sujud_ in Islam.

*2. Purification before prayer:*
Washing hands and feet before approaching God - Exodus 30:17-21, where priests must wash before entering the Tabernacle. Similar to _wudu_.

*3. Fasting, prayer times, and almsgiving:*
Daniel prayed three times a day facing Jerusalem (Daniel 6:10), similar pattern to regular daily prayers. Fasting as self-denial is all through Leviticus and Joel. And zakat/alms is very close to the Old Testament tithes and laws about leaving gleanings for the poor.

*4. Dress and modesty:*
Head covering for women (Genesis 24:65), beard for men (Leviticus 19:27), modest dress.

*5. Food and circumcision:*
Not eating pork (Leviticus 11:7-8, Deuteronomy 14:cool, not eating blood, circumcision on the 8th day (Genesis 17:12) which Islam also practices.


Then , open your mind to the correct understanding of Deuteronomy 18 verse 18
I don't understand how you don't see that this is a terrible and extremely FEEBLE argument.
But not withstanding
Using your standard here, why do Muslims hate the Jews so much because everything you stated here as per how to do religion is perfectly done by them.

Except IF Islam is an imposture that seeks to replace the legitimate religion of the Jews!
Islam › Re: 10 Punishments For Disbelievers In Jahannam (hell)! by TenQ: 5:56pm On Oct 12
doffman:
Hello unbelievers 🤣

Oya sit down and read today lecture .

Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)


Cant you see your religion is evil 👿

Lobatan agbaaakaaaan lon se Christianity seh 🤣
So, Shaitan was caught putting words and Mohammed's mouth and the same satan says whenever it happened he would remove those words!?

Qur’an 22:52
“We did not send before you any messenger or prophet except that, when he tamannā, Satan cast something into his umniyya; but Allah removes what Satan casts, then Allah makes His signs firm. Allah is Knowing, Wise.”


1. Why and How does Shaitan and Jibril look so alike that your prophet mixes them up?

2. Does Shaitan also have 600 wings?



Drown this out with your noise again instead of thinking!
Christianity Etc › Re: Nadine Shares Her Journey From Islam To Christianity by TenQ: 5:42pm On Oct 12
mrkia:
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It's like you really need to be thought a lesson cheesy

Gnostic texts from the Nag Hammadi library, like the _Second Treatise of the Great Seth_ and _Apocalypse of Peter_, have a similar idea with that of Quran 4:157 which propagated - Jesus was not crucified, only an illusion or substitute was.

The mainstream and early Christians rejected the establishment because of these two reasons:

- It contradicted the eyewitness accounts of the apostles that they preached and were martyred for.

- It made the cross meaningless - if Jesus did not really suffer and die, there is no atonement.

My bros, My knowledge of Bible cut across all the edited versions. I researched into both religions and I can but chose Islam because it's the only religion that all the Prophets/ Messages (including Eesa, May God be pleased with him) of God practised

I read Quran and the correct Bible always. You should also do the same and find the truth by yourself
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1. Do you accept hadiths from the Shia?

2. Do you subscribe to the Quran of Rashad Khalifa ?

3. Do you subscribe to the God Al-Raḥmān of Musaylima ?

4. Do you subscribe to literatures that show that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad: is the Promised Messiah and Mahdi?

But you think it is wise and scholarly to claim to make gnostic texts and forgeries as authorities with which to judge the BIBLE and Christian doctrine!?


Gnostic literatures believes that Jesus cannot be killed because He is Divine: is this also a fact you believe as a Muslim or you are cherry picking?

This is intellectual dishonesty!




Leaving the above:
The Quran says in Qur’an 4:157–158
1. Jesus was not Crucified
2. Jesus was not killed by the Jews
3. The Jews claimed they killed their Messiah
4. Jesus was taken to Allah
5. It was made to look like that to the Jews


Are this factually and historically true?
Christianity Etc › Re: Nadine Shares Her Journey From Islam To Christianity by TenQ: 5:20pm On Oct 12
NOETHNICITY:
Ohhhh my God. So evasive.

1. Didn’t ask you anything about title or whatever. I simply ask you to tell what name specifically did Jesus use to refer to God when he was on the cross.
Simple. What were the words that came out from Jesus mouth in reference to God.
2, Regarding your second question, I’m surprised that you are asking me this question. Well your answer is above in No.1 above.
I asked the questions
1. God can be called by TITLE and God can be called by NAME.
AND
2. So, the question is, did Jesus called God by NAME or by TITLE on the cross?

Because Jesus did NOT call God by His Name anywhere in the scripture.

The title for ANY Deity in Aramaic is El- or Alah (NOT Al-Lah)

Since you desire to feign IGNORANCE, I will answer your Question

You asked:
NOETHNICITY:
Ohhhh my God. So evasive.

1. Didn’t ask you anything about title or whatever. I simply ask you to tell what name specifically did Jesus use to refer to God when he was on the cross.
Simple. What were the words that came out from Jesus mouth in reference to God.
THE ANSWER
The precise words Jesus used in Aramaic was EL-


Matthew 27:46
ܘܠܐܦܝ ܬܫܥ ܫܥܝܢ ܩܥܐ ܝܫܘܥ ܒܩܠܐ ܪܡܐ ܘܐܡܪ ܐܝܠ ܐܝܠ ܠܡܢܐ ܫܒܩܬܢܝ
W-lʾap̄ay təšaʿ šāʿīn, qʿā Yešūʿ b-qālā rāmā w-ʾemar: ʾēl, ʾēl, lmānā šḇaqtānī.

Mark 15:34
ܘܒܬܫܥ ܫܥܝܢ ܩܥܐ ܝܫܘܥ ܒܩܠܐ ܪܡܐ ܘܐܡܪ ܐܝܠ ܐܝܠ ܠܡܢܐ ܫܒܩܬܢܝ ܕܐܝܬܝܗ ܐܠܗܝ ܐܠܗܝ ܠܡܢܐ ܫܒܩܬܢܝ
W-ḇə-ṯəšaʿ šāʿīn qʿā Yešūʿ b-qālā rāmā w-ʾemar: ʾēl, ʾēl, lmānā šḇaqtānī; d-ʾīṯayh: ʾalāhī, ʾalāhī, lmānā šḇaqtānī.


Is your eye clear now?
Jesus called God by the TITLE El- in Aramaic.

Let me give you the Arabic so that we can look IF Jesus called God by the name or title Allah!


Matthew 27:46
وَنَحْوَ السَّاعَةِ التَّاسِعَةِ صَرَخَ يَسُوعُ بِصَوْتٍ عَظِيمٍ قَائِلًا: «إِيلِي، إِيلِي، لِمَا شَبَقْتَنِي؟» أَيْ: «إِلهِي، إِلهِي، لِمَاذَا تَرَكْتَنِي؟»
Transliteration:
Wa-naḥwa al-sāʿati al-tāsiʿati ṣarakha Yasūʿu bi-ṣawtin ʿaẓīmin qāʾilan: “Īlī, Īlī, limā shabaqtanī?” Ay: “Ilāhī, ilāhī, limādhā taraktanī?”

Mark 15:34
وَفِي السَّاعَةِ التَّاسِعَةِ صَرَخَ يَسُوعُ بِصَوْتٍ عَظِيمٍ قَائِلًا: «أَلُوي، أَلُوي، لِمَا شَبَقْتَنِي؟» الَّذِي تَفْسِيرُهُ: «إِلهِي، إِلهِي، لِمَاذَا تَرَكْتَنِي
Transliteration:
Wa-fī al-sāʿati al-tāsiʿati ṣarakha Yasūʿu bi-ṣawtin ʿaẓīmin qāʾilan: “Alūy, alūy, limā shabaqtanī?” Alladhī tafsīruhu: “Ilāhī, ilāhī, limādhā taraktanī?”


Se how you life is on the outside?


I expect the dance of a bird with a broken wing.




NOETHNICITY:
3, Then regarding your 3rd question, I simply told you that I am doing an internal critique which allows me to reference your scripture while addressing your points. For example, you as a Christian don’t believe in the Quran, but if I tell you that Islam says that God is 2, you as Christian can quote Quran 112 to argue against my position even if you don’t believe in the Quran. That’s what internal criticism is.
You forgot that I also have the right to ask you questions just as you can ask me questions.
SMH!
Sorry. you cannot eat your cake and have it internal critique or not. Why? Because the Qur'an, Mohammed and Allah made a Blunder which must be addressed.

Thus you have to answer my question as I uave answered yours
3. Isn't it true that according to Islam someone else must have spoken those words rather than Jesus?

If your claim is that Jesus truly said somethings on the cross, then the Qur'an is FALSE!

Did Jesus truly say anything on the cross?

Again, To expose your Deceit, can you answer this elementary question:
4. Is the NAME of your GOD the same as Theos or Ol'orun or Alaha, Dieu, Gott, kamisama or Allah or Shàngdì?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Zelensky Asks For 60-Day Ceasefire To Hold Elections (Photos, Video) by TenQ: 3:08pm On Oct 12
12345baba:
ur ignorance stinks to high heavens
This you said is meaningless except backed up with your own facts.




I pray that Nigeria will someday have a president like Zelensky who wouldn't sell us to the whims of some "big" countries!
Foreign Affairs › Re: Zelensky Asks For 60-Day Ceasefire To Hold Elections (Photos, Video) by TenQ: 3:06pm On Oct 12
BioData45:
The whole war is this man's fault. No one will agree to allow his neighbour have a threat NATO in his house.
Make me understand!

After Putin occupied Cremia in 2014,
1. Do you expect Ukraine to love Russia
2. Do you expect Ukraine to seek for protection from a Bullying supposed big Brother Ukraine.
3. To whom should Ukraine have gone to find protection?



I expect you not to answer any of these three questions.



Summary
a. Russia has enormous wealth in Oil, Gas, Precious metals and Diamonds
b. Trump and his Friends want to have business deals with Russia
c. Zelensky is in the way as he refused to capitulate
d. So, they want him replaced with a compromised president who will sell Ukraine to Putin.
e. So that Trump and his friends can become richer
Celebrities › Re: Tobey Maguire Officiates Ex-wife’s Wedding To Nigerian Billionaire's Son by TenQ: 2:15pm On Oct 12
See how they are shamelessly passing their wives around like champagne!

If this thing is not a satanic ritual, tell me what it is.

She no fine
She no young
She be secondhand wife
She no even get endowments
Christianity Etc › Re: Nadine Shares Her Journey From Islam To Christianity by TenQ: 2:11pm On Oct 12
compton11:
how that related to what I asked?


If Muhammad can't know what has past him how come Moses knew?
You feign dumbness

1. Moses knowledge wasn't dictated by YHWH. It was a common knowledge to the Jews. Moses was commissioned to chronicle it.

2. Mohammed was unlettered. Allah sent Jibril to dictate the eternal Qur'an from the mother of the book in paradise. Isnt the Qur'an the explicit words of Allah!?


It is amazing that you cannot see the difference!





Do you think Jibril dictated the Torah to Moses?
Christianity Etc › Re: Nadine Shares Her Journey From Islam To Christianity by TenQ: 10:48am On Oct 12
compton11:
But muhammed wasn't commissioned to write about what's past him?
According to Muslims , Allah told Jibril to dictate the eternal Qur'an from the mother of the Book to Mohammed.

Dont forget that no one could write an Ayah of the Qur'an like the Qur'an of Allah!

So. the Quran is the explicit words of Allah! Do you disagree with these?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Ukraine Strikes Yandex Data Centre In Third Attack On Russian Tech Giant by TenQ: 8:32am On Oct 12
helinues:
Perhaps, you missed that
It seems you didn't read where I said
Ukraine was weak anyways, so Putin chose to bully them by taking their land

They fought feebly. The Ukrainian Navy was compromised. It took roughly 3 weeks to overrun Ukraine.


Again!


What led to the taking of Cremia?

Greed by Putin as he needed the Ukrainian warm port for his Navy. Ukraine was weak anyways, so Putin chose to bully them by taking their land

Except
1. if you can prove that Russia NEVER EVER needed the warm sea port of Ukraine!
2. If you can state the problem Putin solved by taking Cremia from Ukraine.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Ukraine Strikes Yandex Data Centre In Third Attack On Russian Tech Giant by TenQ: 8:24am On Oct 12
helinues:
What led to the taken of Cremia, did they fight then like the way they are fighting now?
What led to the taking of Cremia?

Greed by Putin as he needed the Ukrainian warm port for his Navy. Ukraine was weak anyways, so Putin chose to bully them by taking their land

Except
1. if you can prove that Russia NEVER EVER needed the warm sea port of Ukraine!
2. If you can state the problem Putin solved by taking Cremia from Ukraine.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Ukraine Strikes Yandex Data Centre In Third Attack On Russian Tech Giant by TenQ: 7:53am On Oct 12
helinues:
Did Zelensky predecessors gave those places out to Russia without fighting any war?
How was Cremia taken?

Was it a gift from Ukraine to Putin?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Ukraine Strikes Yandex Data Centre In Third Attack On Russian Tech Giant by TenQ: 7:48am On Oct 12
It is NOT about winning a war. It is about preventing your enslavement.


Tell me
Do you think Russia will Dare attempt to claim annexation of any Ukrainian lands again in the next 200 years?

helinues:
I wouldn't have gone to a war I can never win
So, if you were Zelensky, you would have given Cremia and the whole of Donbas, Odesa, Kharkiv, and Zaporizhzhia to Putin and make yourself a landlocked country permanently dependent upon Russia?


How would you now fare as a country as a slave to another?

What if after this, Putin says Ukraine doesn't exist it is just an Oblast of the Russian federation: would this also be okay with you?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Ukraine Strikes Yandex Data Centre In Third Attack On Russian Tech Giant by TenQ: 7:13am On Oct 12
helinues:
Zelensky generation should be banned from contesting for any political position in Ukraine

Zelensky confirmed he's indeed a comedian, a clown and confused person.

How have his predecessors able to maintain their relationship with Russia without war that Zelensky couldn't?

NATO and their allies promised you they will support you in fighting Russia in your own territory and he agreed to that nonsense
All these because Zelensky wouldn't give Ukraine to Russia as their toothpick?


If you were Zelensky, what would you have done? Give Cremia and the whole of Donbas, Odesa, Kharkiv, and Zaporizhzhia to Putin and make yourself a landlocked country permanently dependent upon Russia?
Christianity Etc › Re: Nadine Shares Her Journey From Islam To Christianity by TenQ: 7:02am On Oct 12
compton11:
Hihow come Moses knew about Noah?
It wasn't a lost knowledge, Moses was only commissioned to write it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Nadine Shares Her Journey From Islam To Christianity by TenQ: 11:03pm On Oct 11
NOETHNICITY:
I asked you a specific question, you can either say I don’t know or you go ahead and answer, instead throwing the question back to me.

Regarding your question about Jesus being on the cross, my question to you is simply an internal critique, it’s not like I believe in what the Bible says.
Going back to my question, what did Jesus specifically call God when he was on the cross according to your Bible.
Your question is vague EXCEPT if you can clarify if you are aware of and understand the fact that

1. God can be called by TITLE and God can be called by NAME.

2. So, the question is, did Jesus called God by NAME or by TITLE on the cross?

3. Thirdly, Isn't it true that according to Islam someone else must have spoken those words rather than Jesus?






To expose your Deceit, can you answer this elementary question:
4. Is the NAME of your GOD the same as Theos or Ol'orun or Alaha, Dieu, Gott, kamisama or Allah or Shàngdì?




Why do you want to hide under deliberate Falsehood and Deceit to ask vague fraudulent questions?
Islam › Re: 10 Punishments For Disbelievers In Jahannam (hell)! by TenQ: 4:16pm On Oct 11
doffman:
U don cast and defeated nah . 🤣🤣 stop crying guy . Receive your daily foods with your colleagues in peace 🤣

Go call your other to receive your daily dose . 🤣
Nothing useful to say
Believer in a a black stone that forgives his sins and god with two right hands

If satan put words in Mohammed's recitation, how are you sure it is not satan saying that he would remove whatever he put in his mouth?
Islam › Re: 10 Punishments For Disbelievers In Jahannam (hell)! by TenQ: 3:06pm On Oct 11
doffman:
Hello unbelievers , how are you in your cage 🤣?
I hope you are doing fine ? 🤣
Now read :


Your god say he did not have power o :


John 5:30

New International Version
30 By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.
Believer in a god with two right hands

If satan put words in Mohammed's recitation, how are you sure it is not satan saying that he would remove whatever he put in his mouth?
Christianity Etc › Re: Nadine Shares Her Journey From Islam To Christianity by TenQ: 11:54am On Oct 11
NOETHNICITY:
I want to ask you, what exactly did Jesus call God when he was on the cross.
Also, I want to ask, what do Arab Christians call God?
God can be called by TITLE and God can be called by NAME.

So, did Jesus called God by NAME or by TITLE on the cross?

Secondly, Isn't it true that according to Islam someone else must have spoken those words rather than Jesus?

Let's start from here!
Christianity Etc › Re: Nadine Shares Her Journey From Islam To Christianity by TenQ: 11:51am On Oct 11
ALFADOS:
you don't worth my precious time, so shift.
No problem!


The truth remains that once a person joins the group of Islamabad, they avoid the TRUTH like a plague and would rather choose to remain in Darkness as the Light becomes painful to them.

If Allahis NOT YHWH , you are in trouble as the best of deceivers have 419nd you already .

Unfortunately, not even one of the beautiful 99 names of Allah is YHWH!

Sorry!
Christianity Etc › Re: Nadine Shares Her Journey From Islam To Christianity by TenQ: 11:29am On Oct 11
ALFADOS:
you know nothing, just arguing blindly park well with your fusion theory
The above is a frail statement from you. I mentioned ten replacements, choose ANYONE and let is test if I have knowledge or not.



Again:
1. Apart from the claims of Mohammed, no one can verify than any angel appeared to him.
2. The Quran and Mohammed replace the Jesus of the Bible
3. Allah replace the Father in the Bible
4. An apparition called Jibril replaced the Holy Spirit.
5. Al-Jannah a place of orgies replaced heaven of Worship
6. Violence and Revenge replaced the Peace of Christ
7. The Omnipresent, Omniscient and Omnipotent God YHWH was replaced with the Limited Arabian Deity called Allah
8. The Qur'an replace the Scriptures of the Jews and Christians.
9. The Yeshua Jesus of Nazareth was replaced with an unknown Isa
10. Guarantee for Paradise was replaced with guarantee for Hell Fire



So. I have challenged you. Take your pick amd prove me wrong!
Christianity Etc › Re: Nadine Shares Her Journey From Islam To Christianity by TenQ: 11:26am On Oct 11
NOETHNICITY:
According to pew research Islam has the highest rate of reverts.
Also, you failed to address the point I raised that countries that were once entirely Christian have abandoned Christianity, and churches are closing business. In the UK about 4000 churches shut down in 10 years. Many of which have become mosques.
These are the points you need to address
And you think that if everyone in this world becomes either a Muslim or an Atheist, it would suddenly make it the TRUE religion?

As of today, Christianity is the Largest religion: is this an evidence that it is the TRUE Religion? NO!

Meaning that your argument as per fastest growing religion is FRAIL and FEEBLE!

One fact that crumbles everything in Islam.

Qur'an 29:46
“And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, ‘We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him.’”


Can you test the validity of the above ayah of the Qur'an?

The name of the God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus , the Arab Christians, the Jews and every Christian is YHWH:
What is the name of the Allah of the Muslims?

Is the name of your Allah YHWH?

If not, you worship a false God.
Christianity Etc › Re: Nadine Shares Her Journey From Islam To Christianity by TenQ: 10:13am On Oct 11
NOETHNICITY:
Even if this were true, it would not change the fact that Islam is the fastest-growing major religion in the world, while Christianity is experiencing significant declines in some parts of the world. Churches are closing down, with some being converted into mosques, nightclubs, and other establishments. Countries that were once predominantly Christian are becoming increasingly secular, while Islam continues to grow within their populations.For example the UK, France, The Netherlands, Estonia, Czech Republic, etc. These broader demographic trends are far more telling than the decision of one individual, who may have little or no genuine understanding of Islam, to leave the religion.
Continue to Believe the Islamic lies. Everyone knows that the growth of Islam is mainly through biological multiplication and within 5 years most of Islamic conversions revert back to Christianity because they discover lies that cannot be covered.

Unfortunately, your argument fails because if the correct religion is measured by population, then islam is the FALSE religion.


AllofIslam is deception from the beginning to the end.

1. Apart from the claims of Mohammed, no one can verify than any angel appeared to him.
2. The Quran and Mohammed replace the Jesus of the Bible
3. Allah replace the Father in the Bible
4. An apparition called Jibril replaced the Holy Spirit.
5. Al-Jannah a place of orgies replaced heaven of Worship
6. Violence and Revenge replaced the Peace of Christ
7. The Omnipresent, Omniscient and Omnipotent God YHWH was replaced with the Limited Arabian Deity called Allah
8. The Qur'an replace the Scriptures of the Jews and Christians.
9. The Yeshua Jesus of Nazareth was replaced with an unknown Isa
10. Guarantee for Paradise was replaced with guarantee for Hell Fire
Christianity Etc › Re: Nadine Shares Her Journey From Islam To Christianity by TenQ: 10:08am On Oct 11
Justdare:
What will you say to the thousands crossing from Christianity to Islam.
Did Jesus fail to save them?
Jesus described such with the parable of the sower!

Nothing new!
Christianity Etc › Re: Nadine Shares Her Journey From Islam To Christianity by TenQ: 10:06am On Oct 11
GreenCovering:
Scripted hogwash undecided
How low can these people sink in their game of deception?
AllofIslam is deception from the beginning to the end.

1. Apart from the claims of Mohammed, no one can verify than any angel appeared to him.
2. The Quran and Mohammed replace the Jesus of the Bible
3. Allah replace the Father in the Bible
4. An apparition called Jibril replaced the Holy Spirit.
5. Al-Jannah a place of orgies replaced heaven of Worship
6. Violence and Revenge replaced the Peace of Christ
7. The Omnipresent, Omniscient and Omnipotent God YHWH was replaced with the Limited Arabian Deity called Allah
8. The Qur'an replace the Scriptures of the Jews and Christians.
9. The Yeshua Jesus of Nazareth was replaced with an unknown Isa
10. Guarantee for Paradise was replaced with guarantee for Hell Fire

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