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Igodomigodo419:
Hello Nairalanders!

I seriously need help and a bit of advice right now. I've been a silent and observant Nairalander for a long time now.

My marriage is barely 6 months old. Got married to the girl of my dreams. I honestly didn't envisage marriage at this stage of my life but it happened because my wife sacrificed a lot for me, and for us to be living as man and wife.

I really love my wife so much, during our courtship, i flirted with girls online which at some point she caught me, and forgave me. But i still didn't learn my lesson, subsequently, this bad habit of mine of flirting with random girls online continued, even despite her catching me again, she still kept on trusting and forgiving me. Now we are married and still, I'm still in the habit of texting and flirting with random girls.

The one that broke her was this particular lady i was flirting with online, she caught feelings for me and even went as far as posting my Pictures with hers on her tiktok page, my wife saw it online and confronted me. I begged her for forgiveness and was trying to reassure her that it was just an online flirting.. She believed me again and trusted me one more time, but now this girl i flirted with online saw my marraige pictures online (ofcos i told her i was single), and now she'has messaged my wife via Facebook and exposed our chat of us flirting to her.

My wife called me from my office and confronted me of the chat (esp the part i told her i was not married). My wife has been crying ever since and i honestly don't know what to do.

I've begged her, but she's having none of it again. Please i love my wife so much and she's currently pregnant.

I'm ashamed of myself and devasted too. I really need all the encouragement and advice right now.

I will be reading your comment,😭🥺

1. You don't love your wife
2. You are a thoroughly immature boy in a man's skin
3. You need to go for treatment or deliverance for this your sickness
4. After your treatment and healing, come back for advice.


Now, you need only chastisement not help

doffman:
Unbelievers , just remain in that repeatition mode like that.

na me God used to see you into the same mode .


I hope you guys were not circumcised o🤣


If you do , your life don finish be that o

Galatians 5:2, where the Apostle Paul says, "Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothin[/b]g."

Lobatan

Dont run away


Mr Believer in the god called Mohammed.



[b]Qur’an 72:18
“And the places of worship are for Allah, so do not invoke anyone along with Allah.” It establishes exclusive worship and supplication for God, especially in mosques.

BUT
You invoke Mohammed in your Tashahud.
You say:
All compliments, prayers, and pure things are due to Allah. Peace be upon you, O Prophet, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings. Peace be upon us and upon the righteous servants of Allah. I bear witness that there is no god but Allah, and I bear witness that Muhammad is His servant and Messenger.


To seal your case, your god Mohammed claimed that he will answer your prayers.



Sunan Abī Dāwūd 2041
Narrated Abū Hurayrah: The Prophet ﷺ said: “If any one of you greets me, Allah returns my soul to me and I respond to the greeting.”





Allah's words mean NOTHING to you.
Qur’an 72:18

Expanse2020:
THE CHRISTIANS WOULD THINK EVERYONE IS MUMUUUU LIKE THEM ,🤣🤣🤣🤣

IMAGINE THE SITE THAT THIS GUY GO AND COPY IT....
NO RELEVANT SOURCE LIKE NEWS PAPER., TELEVISION AND RADIO STATION THAT BROADCAST THE NEWS..
THE NIGERIA COURT IN BORNO NO GET NAME 🤣🤣🤣🤣
THE JUDGE DIDNT GET A NAME

THE DOCUMENTS THE ARINDINNNN PRESENT THE NAME OF THE OFENDER IS DIFFERENT FEOM THE NAME OFFENDER WE ARE TALKING ABOUT

MAKE ALLAH NO REDUCE OUR THINKING FACULTY LIKE JE DOES TO THESE PEOPLE 🤣🤣🤣🤣

TENQ
O TI BO MO Ẹ LỌWỌ OO

Can you quote again what I said!?

Its obvious that even you don't believe that Islam is a religion of Peace and Tolerance

Expanse2020:
If you want to learn about divorce in Islam youi will asked us and we teach you and you see the beauty and he logic behind it ..
Rather for your abusive marriage you and your spouse are facing which one person would later pkai since there is no solution to it in the bible 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Sorry!
Your divorce laws stinks to the heavens. You shamelessly pass along and rotate your wives around each other gleefully.

You marry the wives of your sons by adoption as adoption has been thankfully nolified by Allah

Even your prophet says Mary the mother of Jesus has been married off to him in paradise.

Your paradise has hookers from hell given to you from the inmates of hell fire by Allah

Your third leg would be given the strength of seventy men and would be perpetually standing.


All you would be doing is orgies and booze in the paradise of Allah.


No wonder, all about Islamabad is sexieological in nature.


Islam, the religion of LAH

SammyB67:
Reported by Efehe-Abasi Asanga
Maiduguri / Jos Bureau — Religious Freedom and Judicial Bias.

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1168950732475326&id=young.asanga.2025

https://truthnigeria.com/2026/10/nigerian-court-sentences-christian-woman-to-14-years-in-prison-for-sharing-her-faith/

Islam is indeed a Religion of PEACE and TOLERANCE!




All of them will keep quiet now pretending that they didn't read this.




Rashduct4luv
Antichristian
Ohyoudidnt
Expanse2020
drlateef
NOETHNICITY
dofman

Expanse2020:
Give us the solution to the divorcee of Jesus in the bible
😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ogbenu tan
The law says your sister that is in the abused marriage should endure( till his husband pkai am ) I she leave and remarry she committed adultery 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
See the solution the new testament brought for you

You dont get it!?
There is no divorcee in Christ's law.




To you Divorce and exchange of wives is a solution to martial problems?

Of course, one supposed holy man instead of mediating between the his son and his wife instead proferred divorce so that he can marry his sons wife.


Guess what, adoption was cancelled so that it would be legal for a Muslim man to henceforth marry the wives of their adopted son.

Tell me if adoption is cancelled, how can it be possible to marry the wife of your adopted son?


Qur’an 33:37
“And when you said to the one upon whom Allah had bestowed favor, and you had bestowed favor: ‘Retain your wife to yourself and fear Allah,’ while you concealed within yourself what Allah was going to disclose, and you feared the people, while Allah has more right that you fear Him.
So, when Zayd had finished his need from her, We gave her to you in marriage, so that there would not be upon the believers any blame concerning the wives of their adopted sons when they have finished their desire from them. And Allah’s command is ever accomplished.”

[quote author=Expanse2020 post=140930093][/quote]To you Divorce and exchange of wives is a solution to martial problems?

Of course, one supposed holy man instead of mediating between the his son and his wife instead proferred divorce so that he can marry his sons wife.


Guess what, adoption was cancelled so that it would be legal for a Muslim man to henceforth marry the wives of their adopted son.

Tell me if adoption is cancelled, how can it be possible to marry the wife of your adopted son?


Qur’an 33:37
“And when you said to the one upon whom Allah had bestowed favor, and you had bestowed favor: ‘Retain your wife to yourself and fear Allah,’ while you concealed within yourself what Allah was going to disclose, and you feared the people, while Allah has more right that you fear Him.
So, when Zayd had finished his need from her, We gave her to you in marriage, so that there would not be upon the believers any blame concerning the wives of their adopted sons when they have finished their desire from them. And Allah’s command is ever accomplished.”

Ohyoudidnt:
You say Moses gave the divorce law unilaterally and got no revelation for it?Matthew 19:8 says he permitted it because of hard hearts, which is not the same as inventing it apart from God, and in Matthew 15:4 Jesus calls a Mosaic command God's. Then you quote Moses saying the return is an abomination before the LORD and treat that as God's verdict. So answer plainly. Is Moses as per your Bible lying about God, or authorized to speak for Him? If he is lying, you have no divine verdict to set against Quran 2:230. If he is authorized, Deut 24 carries God's authority, including verse 2, where the divorced woman may go and become another man's wife, which your Matthew 5:32 reading calls adultery. The only other option is that Moses spoke for God in verse 4 and for himself in verses 1 to 3, and that needs a verse that draws the line.
You say no human can undo what God joined physically and in spirit, yet you allow an adultery exception. Does adultery dissolve the union or only permit separation? And you told us the man who marries a wife put away without adultery commits adultery, so on your rule a wife whose husband has left her, with no adultery on her side, can never lawfully marry again while he lives. Why is that morally superior to a rule that restricts one reunion? Simply make it make sense.

You are just needlessly feigning dumbness.
1. The Torah is not a dictation from God
2. The Torah is a set of Chronicles and Sets of Different laws (Religious Laws, Civil laws, Commandments, Ritual laws etc)
3. Moses gave a civil law with respect to divorce for a reason; his people are heard hearted.
4. Jesus explained why Moses gave such laws and that it wasn't God's laws.
If you cannot understand this. too bad.


If Moses is the leader of Israel, does he have the power to make and give laws? Moses even went ahead to ask them to present a certificate of divorce to their estranged spouse. This is a civil law whether you admit it or not.

Moses is NOT like Mohammed you Muslims claim that anything from him is from Allah. Everything from Moses is NOT from God just like everything from David is NOT from God.

Unfortunately, there was no EXISTING explicitly stated law of God that Moses violated.

If you know of any. bring it out.

Ohyoudidnt:
I have said the burden under Quran 2:230 is real where both want to reunite, and that scholars differ on a triple said in one sitting, with Ibn Taymiyya counting it as one. I apply one standard to both rules. You condemn the hardship in mine and treat yours as beyond question. And you accept a changed ruling between Moses and Jesus, so what independent argument shows a changed ruling in Islam means a different author?

Divorce is not permitted in Christ as you cannot break a spiritual marriage. So. how can you claim to apply the same law to
1. A religion that allows divorce and remarriage to multiple persons and
2. A religion that forbid divorce and as such sees separated couples as spiritually connected in marriage.


You claiming that a Burden is real doesn't solve any problems.
The Burden is DISASTROUS at the least and highly UNJUST!

It only exposes the fact that Allah and his Messenger created a DUMB law against dutiful and faithful Muslim Wives who were unfortunate to marry some rash husbands.

How come Allah couldn't see the consequence of his command?




It is the same manner Allah made a Blunder because of his lack of understanding in the law of Retribution in your Qur'an while copying the law of Moses wrt retribution









The Question remain about the Wisdom of Allah and his Prophet

1. Tell me, what is the MORALITY, LOGIC and SENSE of this Law of Allah and his Prophet?

2. Why is the Faithful and Dutiful wife suffering for the rashness of her husband?

3. According to your best intellect, is this the BEST solution for this problem created by the Rash Muslim Husband against his Wife?

Expanse2020:
Don't change mouth ..earlier you claimed na Moses wrote the law not God and why are changing mouth now to that not the Moses wrote it again 🤣🤣🤣


And I challenge you to give us the Jesus rulings or law of the divorcee that is better than that moses Abi you don de scare ...

Jaymisi

BACK TO THE ISSUE AT STAKE
A man rashly divorced his dutiful and faithful wife Aisha who loves him three times because he thought his wife was cheating only to discover that his suspicion and conclusion was baseless as his wife is very FAITHFUL to him and her marriage.

Allah and his prophet said:
This Faithful Woman Aisha stands divorced. If she wants her husband back as she has forgiven his shortcomings, she first must marry ANOTHER man.

Your prophet said that this Faithful Wife who NEVER once in her life commited Fornication or Adultery must have sex with another man she doesn't want. Not only that, she must have orgasm for the man and the man must have orgasm in her.

Her Humiliation becomes DOUBLE!
1. She committed no offence as the offender was the rash husband.
2. Instead of the husband being punished, it was the dutiful and faithful wife Aisha that was punished by Allah and his apostle.
3. She has to experience the Humiliation of having sex with a man she doesn't want, have orgasm for the man THEN divorce the man so that she can return to her former husband.
4. It gets worse if the new husband is impotent as this faithful and dutiful wife Aisha is TRAPPED perpetually in a loveless and sexless marriage

Her solution would be to divorce this man, marry another man, repeat the sexual humiliation AND make sure both of them have orrrrgassssssim for each other.


So,
According to your best intellect, is this the BEST solution for this problem created by the Rash Muslim Husband against his Wife?

The Question remain about the Wisdom of Allah and his Prophet

1. Tell me, what is the MORALITY, LOGIC and SENSE of this Law of Allah and his Prophet?

2. Why is the Faithful and Dutiful wife suffering for the rashness of her husband?





I expect as usual your usual EVASIVE strategy!

Ohyoudidnt:
You actually didn't get it? You say Jesus overrides what Moses permitted, yet you accept both within one biblical tradition. Islam likewise teaches that revelation can carry different rulings at different times. So a difference in rulings does not by itself prove a different divine source, and you need an independent argument that the Qur'an's ruling does. Saying Jesus is YHWH assumes the theology Muslims dispute.
On Deuteronomy, I never said 24:2 commands divorce. I asked how its recognition that a divorced woman may become another man's wife fits with Matthew 5:32. If you think they are compatible, explain how. Declaring that they cannot both stand is no more sufficient than declaring that they can.
On the woman, I have said the burden is real where both want to reunite. It is not necessarily the best imaginable rule. The argument is that it limits repeated divorce and keeps a husband from treating divorce and return as costless. In your rash case, scholars like Ibn Taymiyya count a triple said in one sitting as one. Women also have routes to dissolution, khulʿ and judicial divorce, though the rules vary by school and jurisdiction.

Sorry,
It seems you didn't get it.

Moses did NOT get a revelation for DIVORCE: He unilaterally gave the law to the children of Israel because they are hard hearted.

Jesus, said it wasn't how God designed marriage from the beginning. Then Jesus stated the exact desire of God.

It seems you are not aware that the Torah is a mixture of
1. Chronicles
2. Civil Laws
3. Criminal Laws
4. Religious Laws
5. Spiritual Laws and Commandments etc.







So. AGAIN:
According to your best intellect, is this the BEST solution for this problem created by the Rash Muslim Husband against his Wife?

Ohyoudidnt:
Now apply your standard to Matthew 5:32. If a woman is divorced without adultery, can the man who marries her avoid the charge of adultery?

He cannot escape adultery because to God Marriage is BOTH a Physical and Spiritual Union.

If you dissolve the physical union, tell me by what power you want to dissolve the spiritual union made by God Himself especially when God doesn't want to separate the union.

Mat 19:6:
"Why they are no more two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder."

Ohyoudidnt:
If not, why is that better than a rule that restricts reunion with one former husband and permits marriage to another? You cannot condemn Islam's rule while exempting your own from the same scrutiny.

The problem created by Allah and his Messenger is that the INNOCENT divorced Wife due to no fault of hers has to first marry someone else, exchange mutual orgasm with the person.

Jesus does NOT encourage DIVORCE in the first place.

Islam is a purely physical religion, so I understand why you wouldn't see marriage as spiritual union of two people.

The Rule of Jesus is that
1. Divorce is not acceptable except if a spouse cannot live with an adulterer
2. If you divorce your spouse, you have only done a physical separation but you cannot undo the spiritual union.
3. Anyone who thus married a divorced person is commit "Adultery" as they are not spiritually disconnected.

Rashduct4luv:
Overpraising the Prophet in Islam!

In Islam, the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ holds the highest rank among creation as the final Messenger of Allah. Loving and respecting him is an essential part of faith. However, Islam also warns against overpraising or attributing to the Prophet ﷺ things that go beyond what is established in the Qur’an and authentic Sunnah. This post explores the types of overpraising, Islamic teachings on the matter, and scholarly positions, with examples of common exaggerated claims.

Examples of Overpraising the Prophet ﷺ
1. Claiming the Prophet ﷺ was the first creation or created from light:
Some say the Prophet was the first being created or that he was created from divine light, and that all other creation came from his light.

2. Saying the universe or world was created specifically for the Prophet ﷺ:
Claims that the entire cosmos exists solely for the Prophet’s sake, beyond the general purpose of creation.

3. Saying the Prophet ﷺ had no shadow:
Since every object under light casts a shadow, some claim the Prophet ﷺ does not have a shadow, implying a supernatural exception.

4. Saying flies are not attracted to the Prophet ﷺ:
This is a popular myth suggesting that flies avoid the Prophet ﷺ, implying a miraculous protection from natural phenomena.

5. Other exaggerated praises:
Attributing divine qualities or supernatural powers to the Prophet ﷺ that contradict Islamic monotheism (Tawhid).

Islamic Stance on Overpraising the Prophet ﷺ
Allah commands believers to love and respect the Prophet ﷺ but within limits:
“Say, [O Muhammad], ‘If you should love Allah, then follow me, so Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.’” (Surah Aal-Imran 3:31)

The Prophet ﷺ himself warned against exaggeration:
“Do not exaggerate in praising me as the Christians exaggerated in praising Jesus, son of Mary. I am only a servant, so say, ‘The servant of Allah and His Messenger.’” (Sunan al-Nasa’i, Hadith 3637)

The Prophet ﷺ said:
“Whoever exaggerates in praising me, let him take his seat in Hellfire.” (Sunan al-Darimi, Hadith 2283)

He also said:
“Do not exaggerate in praising me as the Christians exaggerated in praising the son of Mary.” (Sahih al-Bukhari, Hadith 3371)

Islamic scholars emphasize that while the Prophet ﷺ deserves the highest respect and love, exaggeration leads to shirk (associating partners with Allah) or at least to bid’ah (innovation). Scholars warn that attributing divine or supernatural qualities to the Prophet ﷺ that are not supported by the Qur’an and Sunnah distorts the pure Islamic belief in Tawhid.

For example:
The claim that the Prophet ﷺ was the first creation or created from light is rejected because Allah in the Qur'an states that He created the heavens and the earth and all between them (Surah Al-Baqarah 2:29), and the Prophet ﷺ himself is a created human like others.

The idea that the universe was created solely for the Prophet ﷺ exaggerates his status beyond what Allah teaches:

“And We did not create the heaven and earth and that between them in play.” (Surah Al-Anbiya 21:16)
The purpose of creation is to worship Allah alone (Surah Adh-Dhariyat 51:56).

Claims like “the Prophet has no shadow” or “flies do not land on him” are unsupported by authentic texts and often come from folklore or weak narrations.

Why Avoid Overpraising?
**It preserves the purity of Tawhid (monotheism) by keeping the Prophet ﷺ in his rightful place as a servant and messenger of Allah.
**It prevents innovation in religion, which the Prophet ﷺ warned against.
**It maintains respect for the Prophet ﷺ without attributing falsehoods that can mislead others.

Loving and honoring the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ is a fundamental part of Islam, but it must be balanced with truth and authenticity. Overpraising or attributing exaggerated qualities to him goes against the teachings of the Qur’an and Sunnah and risks leading to serious theological errors. Muslims are encouraged to follow the Prophet ﷺ as the servant and messenger of Allah, loving him sincerely and respectfully without exaggeration.

May Allah guide us to the correct understanding and love of His Messenger ﷺ, and protect us from exaggeration and error. Ameen.

But you PRAY to Mohammed in your daily prayers

You associate the KNOWLEDGE of Mohammed with that of Allah

You associate the NAME of Mohammed with that of Allah


You even have a LAW of Blasphemy to Mohammed!



How far can your overpraising go?

Expanse2020:
So you are saying Moses was the one who formulate the divorce idea 🤣🤣🤣
So not the God gave him the command..chaiii Christianity



Make I make this guy cry this morning

Ogbeni Sule

Did Jesus say that it was Moses with Reason WHY!?

Mat 19:7:
"They say to him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorce, and to put her away?"

Mat 19:8:
"He (Jesus) said to them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so."



Lukuluku

Ohyoudidnt:
Accusing me of arguing for argument's sake is not an argument.
On your quote, yes, Moses said it, and the same Moses wrote 24:2, where a divorced woman may go and become another man's wife. You credit one verse to God and the other to Moses, and still haven't shown the verse that sorts them. On my wording, you asked where I claimed it. It was my comparison, not a quote, so here it is as a question. Matthew 5:32, which you posted, says whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery, while Deut 24:2 says she may become another man's wife. How do both stand? Show how you draw that line, and do not just assert it.

Se why I said you argue for arguments sake.
1. Jesus said: Moses permitted the children of Israel to divorce their wives because they were hard hearted.
2. Jesus returned us BACK to the foundation of the WILL of God

Doesn't Islam teach progressive Revelation?

Both cannot stand!
The Command of Jesus is superior as YHWH!

Ohyoudidnt:
Now your two questions, straight. The logic is that 2:229 caps revocable divorce at two, so the third is final and he cannot use divorce as a toy. The morality is that his loss is the right to retake her at will, and in your rash case Ibn Taymiyya counts a triple in one sitting as one.

Irrespective of the method by which the final divorce is done, the case isn't about the man: it is about the INNOCENT Wife!
It is understandable if the Rash husband faces some form of punishment BUT not the Innocent Wife

Ohyoudidnt:
As for why she suffers, she does not unless both want the reunion, and there I said the burden is real. Nobody forces her to marry, and she is free to marry anyone after her waiting period.

Unfortunatly, she loves her husband and would rather not divorce him
HOWEVER,
It was the Husband who divorced her!

And the foolish husband realised that he made a BIG mistake that cannot be undone!

So, she suffers for no ERROR from her side.
She suffers for LOVING her husband!

According to your best intellect, is this the BEST solution for this problem?

Ohyoudidnt:
Under your rule she is barred from every marriage, while 2:230 restricts only one. Is that answer enough? You can say no, but you can't say I didn't give it.

Under the rule of Christ,
1. Divorce is NOT permitted EXCEPT in the case of Adultery either by the husband or by the wife(if the offended cannot bear with it)
2. Men are not exclusively given the right to pronounce divorce on their wives
Sorry:
We are not in the same category





AGAIN:
According to your best intellect, is this the BEST solution for this problem created by the Rash Muslim Husband against his Wife?

Ohyoudidnt:
You credit the divorce law to Moses, not God, then prove 24:4 is God's because it says abomination before the LORD. But your own post says Moses stated it. That phrase is Moses' claim about God, made in the same passage as the permission you call only his. Either Moses' statements about God are reliable, and then 24:2 carries the same standing, or they aren't, and you have no divine verdict to set against 2:230. Your Matthew 5:32 also calls the marriage 24:2 allows adultery, so you are sorting verses by your reading of Jesus, not by anything the text says. A few things are still open from earlier, whenever you get to them: whether the wife put away without fornication may lawfully remarry under the verses you posted, the text saying consummation and not orgasm, and which hadith you consider weak. I'm happy to take them in whatever order suits you.

A Muslim is prone to argue for argument sake.

Moses said:
Deut 24:4:
"Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD: and you shall not cause the land to sin, which the LORD your God gives you for an inheritance."

Moses said:
1. It is an ABOMINATION to God
2. It is a SIN



Secondly, I challenge you to show me WHERE you claimed "Your Matthew 5:32 also calls the marriage 24:2 allows adultery, "

Why must you tell lies to advance your case?



Please dont deviate from my question: they are simple enough.



All these to escape answering my Questions!?
The Question remain about the Wisdom of Allah and his Prophet

1. Tell me, what is the MORALITY, LOGIC and SENSE of this Law of Allah and his Prophet?

2. Why is the Faithful and Dutiful wife suffering for the rashness of her husband?

Ohyoudidnt:
You still haven't answered the central question. Jesus said Moses permitted divorce because of hardness of heart (Matthew 19:8 ). He never said not God.

Somehow instead of
Jesus said MOSES permitted divorce!

WHAT you have READ is
Jesus said GOD permitted divorce!


Is MOSES and GOD synonymous?
It just shows how BIASED and OBSTINATE you made yourself

Ohyoudidnt:
That part is your addition, so show the verse. In Mark 10:5 Jesus says Moses wrote that precept, and in Mark 7:10 and Matthew 15:4 he treats Moses said and God commanded as the same thing.

No sir.
Jesus went before the TIME of Moses to show WHAT GOD DESIGNED FOR MARRIAGE.

Mat 19:8:
"He said to them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so."

Jesus said:
"FROM THE BEGINNING IT WAS NOT SO"

Was Moses in the Beginning?

I can understand that this is exactly how you read the Qur'an. You usually choose to leave what Allah says for what you want Allah to say.
SMH!

Ohyoudidnt:
Now follow your claim through. If the divorce law in Deut 24:1-4 is Moses' and not God's, then the abomination in 24:4 is Moses' verdict too, and Islam cannot be promoting what God abhors. If it is God's, your God wrote a rule He did not intend.

Unfortunately, Moses stated that this oddity of Remarrying a woman who had been passed around by the old husband is an ABOMINATION to God and NOT an Abomination to Moses.

Deu 24:4:
"Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD: and you shall not cause the land to sin, which the LORD your God gives you for an inheritance."

Moses said:
1. It is an ABOMINATION to God
2. It is a SIN


So, the second part of Mose's is God's!

Mohammed is committing an ABOMINABLE and a SIN

Ohyoudidnt:
Which verse draws the line? On morality, apply the principle I stated: a rule is unjust when it restricts freedom, dignity or a lawful future because of another person's act. 2:230 restricts reunion with the first husband and does not bar her from marrying another man.

Using your law of Morality, you will see that using the rule of Allah and your rule of morality you stated, The Rashly Divorced Woman in Islam is UNJUSTLY Treated.

You said:
a rule is unjust when it restricts freedom, dignity or a lawful future because of another person's act.

1. This woman was Divorced against her will and she cannot do anything about it UNLESS she married someone else (also against her will)
2. This dutiful and faithful wife has to have an orgasm for someone other than the husband she truly want as her husband.
3. Her freedom, dignity and future is compromised because of the LAW of Allah and his Prophet.

Complete Injustice according to the best of Allah and Mohammed's ruling

Ohyoudidnt:
Your rule 3, that marrying a divorced person is adultery, restricts every marriage she could make, and the rash husband's innocent wife stays bound to him with no ground. That rule is yours. On hadith, reports are judged one by one, so name the one you think is weak and give your evidence. Readers can judge who answered and who repeated conclusions

1. Sorry, it is NOT my rule, it was JESUS's Rule
2. We have no such rules of divorce in Christianity

Mat 5:32:
"But I say to you, That whoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causes her to commit adultery: and whoever shall marry her that is divorced commits adultery."

Mat 19:9:
"And I say to you, Whoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, commits adultery: and whoever marries her which is put away does commit adultery."

Prophet Malachi corroborated it

Malachi 2:16:
"“For I hate divorce!” says the LORD, the God of Israel. “To divorce your wife is to overwhelm her with cruelty, ” says the LORD of Heaven’s Armies. “So guard your heart; do not be unfaithful to your wife.”"

The God of Israel hates divorce BIT Allah and his Messenger are promoting SIN and ABOMINATIONS with respect of tasting the juice of multiple husbands.








All these to escape answering my Questions!?
The Question remain about the Wisdom of Allah and his Prophet
1. Tell me, what is the MORALITY, LOGIC and SENSE of this Law of Allah and his Prophet?

2. Why is the Faithful and Dutiful wife suffering for the rashness of her husband?

Expanse2020:
So you said Yahweh didn't knows what he was doing when given Moses the law 🤣🤣🤣🤣
According to your logic

Why tell lies about what I never said?


Moses (not God) gave the Isrealites the law of divorce.

Mat 19:7:
"They say to him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorce, and to put her away?"

Mat 19:8:
"He said to them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so."

Say exactly what I said without MISREPRESENTING it

Ohyoudidnt:
I accept that Deut 24:4 and 2:230 give different rules. Whether that proves a different source is another matter, and your own Jesus post answers it. You say Moses permitted divorce because of hard hearts and that it was not God's plan, and Matthew 19:8 says the same. So you hold that one God gave Moses a concession and Jesus the original, and those two rules differ. If a difference of rules proves a different source, Moses and Jesus have different sources, and you have disproved your own Bible. If it does not, your claim is gone.

Nope!

Jesus said:
It was Moses who gave the law of Divorce NOT God.
And Jesus stated EXACTLY the will of God for Marriage.

Get it right.
I never said God gave Moses ANY concession.

Ohyoudidnt:
Second, Deut 24:4 sits inside Deut 24:1-4, the law you call a concession, so you cannot treat it as God's pure verdict on what He finds abominable. In Matthew 19 Jesus never cites it, he goes back to Genesis. Third, your church says Jesus fulfilled and superseded Moses, and Muslims say the Qur'an does the same to earlier scripture. Identical structure cannot be doctrine in one case and fraud in the other.

If Jesus is God as claimed by the Scriptures and Christians, your claim of the Quran doing the same is a fallacy!

Ohyoudidnt:
Finally, no text orders the divorced woman to marry anyone, and orgasm is not in the report, only consummation, while your rule 3 binds the rash husband's wife to him for life. Name one hadith you consider weak, and the moral principle you judge by.

No problem! The woman is not obligated to remarry.

1. Can she lawfully have sex if she feels like it now that she is without a husband?

2. The woman still becomes WITHOUT a husband due to no fault of hers and not because of her choice or volition.

It seems Allah and his prophet has ZERO protection for her.


The Question remain about the Wisdom of Allah and his Prophet
1. Tell me, what is the MORALITY, LOGIC and SENSE of this Law of Allah and his Prophet?

2. Why is the Faithful and Dutiful wife suffering for the rashness of her husband?

doffman:
Unbelievers , you will be fine seh .

Just continuing taking your drug 🤣🤣


Luke 12:51–52: "Do you think I have come to bring peace to the earth? No, I tell you, but division. From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three

We told you guys nah, esin agbakooooo ni Christianity seh .

No wonder , you guys supported terrorist Trump and netanwvil .

Shioor

Mr Believer in the god called Mohammed.



Qur’an 72:18
“And the places of worship are for Allah, so do not invoke anyone along with Allah.” It establishes exclusive worship and supplication for God, especially in mosques.

BUT
You invoke Mohammed in your Tashahud.
You say:
All compliments, prayers, and pure things are due to Allah. Peace be upon you, O Prophet, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings. Peace be upon us and upon the righteous servants of Allah. I bear witness that there is no god but Allah, and I bear witness that Muhammad is His servant and Messenger.


To seal your case, your god Mohammed claimed that he will answer your prayers.



Sunan Abī Dāwūd 2041
Narrated Abū Hurayrah: The Prophet ﷺ said: “If any one of you greets me, Allah returns my soul to me and I respond to the greeting.”





Allah's words mean NOTHING to you.
Qur’an 72:18

Zanzibar1:
First thing that needs to change about Nigeria is the dress code in schools.
But you know, without religion, you can't control people. They will be too wise and violent

Yes, but to some extent.

The issue is more of the PURPOSE of the SCHOOL and a set STANDARD that is visible to ALL.

Then the OBJECTIVE pursuit of the purpose of the school without interference of Religious or Tribal sentiments.

Only then would there be a revival and return to the old foundation

Ohyoudidnt:
Did you ask yourself these questions first and not find answers? Nothing here is denied. The central report concerning the requirement of consummation appears in Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim, and Muslim scholars have discussed its implications openly for centuries. Quoting a report from a Sunan collection does not establish that a report in a Sahih collection is fabricated. Each narration must be assessed on its own chain of transmission and grading.

The point is clear that a mere marriage contract is insufficient. The second marriage must be consummated before the woman can lawfully return to her first husband, if the second marriage subsequently ends and the relevant conditions are met.

Qur'an 2:230 restricts the first husband. After a third divorce, he can no longer take his former wife back at will. The verse does not compel her to return to him or authorize him to arrange her next marriage. Any eventual reunion depends on both parties believing they can observe Allah's limits. Nor does this rule endorse a loophole. The hadith tradition condemns the muhallil and the man for whom he acts (Abu Dawud 2076; also reported in al-Tirmidhi, with differences in the chains and gradings of individual narrations). Classical jurists disagree over whether a marriage contracted for tahlil is void or legally valid but sinful. That disagreement does not mean deliberate circumvention is approved by the hadith tradition.

The rule has consequences for the woman too, and the texts do not establish that pressure on women never occurs in practice. The point is that the verse does not authorize anyone to compel her to marry another man or return to her former husband. The marriage institution is no joke and neither is divorce.

Deuteronomy 24:1–4 prohibits a first husband from taking his former wife back after she has married another man and that marriage has ended. Matthew 19:9 restricts divorce and remarriage, subject to an exception interpreted differently across Christian traditions. These rules are not identical to Qur'an 2:230, but they demonstrate that restrictions on divorce and remarriage are not unique to Islam.

If you believe a particular hadith is inauthentic, identify it and provide evidence concerning its chain and grading. If you believe the rule is unjust, explain the moral principle on which you base that judgment.

Calling believers flies or 419 answers neither question. Criticize the texts, challenge the reasoning, and present your evidence. But ridicule is not a substitute for argument. The jest you have made here for years should have shown you that except whatever pleasure you derive in it.

Quoting Deuteronomy 24:1–4 and Matthew 19:9 shows clearly that the SOURCE of inspiration of the Mohammed is different. What was considered as abomination in the law of Moses is what Mohammed amd his Allah promoted as norm.

Allah says:
Qur'an 2:230
“So if he divorces her, then she is not lawful to him after that until she marries a husband other than him. Then, if he divorces her, there is no sin/blame upon the two of them that they return to one another, if they think that they will uphold the limits of Allah. And those are the limits of Allah; He makes them clear to a people who know.”


Allah says that a divorced woman can only return to her former husband if only she married and gets divorced by her new husband.


Even though this is nauseous as it is, it becomes WORSE when
1. We look at the wisdom of Allah in giving this law
2. We look at the oddity of recklessly passing along wives as if they are passing along cups of garri.


A man rashly divorced his dutiful and faithful wife Aisha who loves him three times because he thought his wife was cheating only to discover that his suspicion and conclusion was baseless as his wife is very FAITHFUL to him and her marriage.

Allah and his prophet said:
This Faithful Woman Aisha stands divorced. If she wants her husband back as she has forgiven his shortcomings, she first must marry ANOTHER man.

Your prophet said that this Faithful Wife who NEVER once in her life commited Fornication or Adultery must have sex with another man she doesn't want. Not only that, she must have orgasm for the man and the man must have orgasm in her.

Her Humiliation becomes DOUBLE!
1. She committed no offence as the offender was the rash husband.
2. Instead of the husband being punished, it was the dutiful and faithful wife Aisha that was punished by Allah and his apostle.
3. She has to experience the Humiliation of having sex with a man she doesn't want, have orgasm for the man THEN divorce the man so that she can return to her former husband.
4. It gets worse if the new husband is impotent as this faithful and dutiful wife Aisha is TRAPPED perpetually in a loveless and sexless marriage

Her solution would be to divorce this man, marry another man, repeat the sexual humiliation AND make sure both of them have orgasm for each other.


Sunan Abu Dawud 2309
The Prophet ﷺ was asked whether a woman divorced three times, then married another man who divorced her before intercourse, could return to the first husband. He replied: “She is not lawful for the first husband until she tastes the honey of the other husband and he tastes her honey.”

Sunan al-Nasa’i 3413–3414
Ibn ‘Umar reports the Prophet ﷺ said that if the second husband divorces her before consummation, she cannot return to the first husband “until she tastes his sweetness.”






1. Tell me, what is the MORALITY, LOGIC and SENSE of this Law of Allah and his Prophet?

2. Why is the Faithful and Dutiful wife suffering for the rashness of her husband?

Vendor127001:
Everything don change

It is as if anything in the hands of the FG collapses.

They recognise only places where they can get funds to squander

APOPTOSIS:
This is what we mean by " ZOO" nothing else.

The school can be called Rough!

The new management have what they have planned for. They removed the standard they met and instituted the one they preferred.

This is the result!

BItt:
Even if you could go back into the past, you still won't be able to change anything.
That place the school is located now is highly I influenced by those who live around the area.

Unlike before when people who schooled there came all the way from adewole, phase 1 and phase 2 estate and very far places. No religious attachments, just people learning and graduating with intelligence.

Unlike now, even the parents enrolling their kids now are something else. Sorry but there isn't anything you can change. Forget and move on

Yes: We had students from ALL over the states of the Federation. Many Rich and Powerful People's Children were in FGC Ilorin.

The Teachers were excellent and they did their best to forge us into excellent students

Did you meet Alhaji Monite?
He was the House Master for many years before he became the Principal.

Lush100:
Men.

See my school ...kilode.

Those days we were competing anywhere.
Even Achebe daughter scholed there.
We were same sets.

If you know the calibre of people that graduated from that school men..

The likes of Alh..Kareem our mathematics and further maths teacher.

Men..

Unfortunately, most Federal Government Secondary Schools are NOW like this.

What do you expect from a Nation that does not Value Education?

What do you expect from a Nation that does not understand why her youths should be Educated?

What do you expect from a Nation that prefers Importation to Exportation?

What do you expect from a Nation that does not see Brain Drain of her Elites as any Problem?

This is Nigeria!

Delat521:
It
I am very sorry for my initial outburst, perhaps I misjudge your intentions.

No doubt that is truth. Infact during those days in eighties I could fgc is always reserved for best brains then follow by unity schools. FGC is for those with excellent common entrance results but like I said before that academic decadence has set in and mostly those admitted not only in Ilorin but all over Nigeria.

While I may not exactly know the present general performance of fgc in Ilorin but performance might not be top notch like your good old days really.

I remembered during those days when doing out interview at Queen Elizabeth I think you that place, we that performed well we're chosen then for unity schools that next to those that have earlier shortlisted for fgc. But nothing of sort now, everything is about who knows who now.

Once again pardon me for my earlier remarks. No doubt we use to regards those that went to FGC truly then, but thank God we were not that brain dead o atleast I have good five As in my WAEC and I am not FGC alumni. No doubt lot of good school are now in Ilorin though.

Hey my Friend, you offend me NOT o!
I think we all mean the best.

We hope that someone somewhere will note this and recall that this school was designed for a purpose.

I think it is the same systemic rot affecting the whole nation. Politicians are in just for their cut of the National cake. Looting had been perfected from the Executive to the Senate and to the Legislature.

Things fall apart and the centre cannot hold!

Delat521:
Pls keep your fucking mouth shut up. I though initially you are writing something sensible not untill I saw thru your bias, myopic and shallow thinking through that pics.

So because majority of the students now wear hijab, brings about your old glory days as you're the best 😆. Pls who tell those students are not performing to the best of their abilities.

What you're describing is not peculiar to FGC alone, the moral and academic decadence in the country is very pathetic, so don't try to attribute that to bias assembly pics.

Now let me burst your bubble. Kwara sate has won both national and international debate competition back to back in recent history courtesy of many brilliant minds from various schools in Ilorin not just fgc. There were always a debate competition among on broadcast live on Radio Kwara stations in Ilorin every month by subeb through Prof. Adaramanja coordination.

Many of these student are from various schools in Ilorin including fgc and doing excellently well both within and outside the country in debate and academic excellence.

Kwara state is good and they have very good schools.

Many of the schools have produced excellent results in both JAMB and SSCE year in year out and I can mention names of schools like this.


My argument is that FGC Ilorin used to be the ALL ROUND best secondary school in Ilorin.
However in the last ten years FGC Ilorin is nowhere to be found.


For any old Alumni of FGC Ilorin, this is a shock: I don't know if you are one.


sorry that it may look like an attack on Islam but it isn't. It is against people who throw away the ancient goals for something else

:l

FEGNO:
Like every other thing in Nigeria, it is now being used to project religion and to assert dominance of that territory. They might as well convert it to a Quranic school.

LOL!
This is the their problem with these people with the religion of peiece.

Like virus, they enter a good system
They multiply
They kill and destroy the system.

It is their normal behaviour

ThePEACEFULBOY:
The people who live in an area determine what the school looks like, maybe that's how majority of those who live around there dresses

No sir.

FGC Ilorin was a purely secular school until some people felt that Islam should be projected through the school.

FGC Ilorin was model after King's College Lagos in a lot of ways before this madness.

The student's academic performance FELL drastically with this Islamisation initiative. The Best schools in Ilorin now are either Private Colleges or Church Mission Colleges to their shame. This can easily be verified just look for the best results in the last 10 years in JAMB or WASC in Kwara State.

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ravensckar:
This one is even better, if you see FGC Ijanikin, you'll do the sign of the cross.

A once glamourous school that I was hoping my children would attend suddenly became a breeding ground for cultists.

Government has really destroyed this country beyond repair. Most citizens just haven't realized it yet.

Can FGC Ijanikim be worse than this!?

If you knew how FGC Ilorin used to be: It was like after Kings College, Lagos, that was the next.

Federal Government destroyed the school. The first point was the so-called exchange or quota students they got. Most of them came from the North and some couldn't even speak good English. Although usually after like two years many of them became much better.

Now, no-one knows how people got into any of the FGCs. You won't believe that at a time in FGC Ilorin, quite a number of the teachers had M.Sc and PhD.


FGC Ilorin looking like Ile- Kewu shows how well the Government values Education in Nigeria.

UNFORTUNATELY,
Those days seem permanently gone.
FGC Ilorin is unrecognisable: it is now like a school for Almajiri.