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Truthseeker10:
You are the one teaching na. I am learning from you.

So where does your bible teach that the "breath" is conscious?

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Truthseeker10:
Below is Isaiah 2:22.

King James Bible
Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of?

The verse above clearly says that the breath of man is in his nose. So where did you get your own definition of breath above as conscious?

So, you are saying that the AIR a man breathe through his NOSTRILS is the breathe the Bible Refers to!?


SMH!


How carnal can you be?



Have a nice day and sleep well!
No wonder the foundation is already destroyed, so what can the righteous do? Your God must be a physical being like Allah as he breathes in Oxygen and Breathe out Carbon Dioxide!

SMH!
There is no need continuing with you sir!!

SmartyPants:
You seem to be drifting somewhat. Your initial point was that it is time for an Igbo president. I asked what makes it necessary to have an Igbo president at this particular time? It is a two part question:

a. Is having a Igbo president a guarantee of good governance or is there a different objective behind this quest?

I noticed you talked about disenfranchisement but the disenfranchisement relates to the right to vote not the right for your preferred candidate to win.

There is zero guarantee.
The major plus is that we may not have to fight another civil war in future because the Igbo feel marginalized.

1. Is the current President the BEST that Nigeria can produce?
2. Is the current President the solving the major problems of improving the living standards of the average Nigerian?


Like I said, if the office that be has performed exceptionally well by your standard, they should be given the right for a third term

So, the ball is in your court

SmartyPants:
b. What makes it particularly the turn of the Igbos and not a minority tribe like the Efik? Is it that size is the major requirement? So, then, we'll be going turn by turn till the Efiks or Nupes or Afemai get their turn (out of the hundreds of ethnic groups) maybe in 3027?

Democracy is a game of NUMBERS!
Democracy doesn't care about competence especially in a Multicultural, Multiethnic and Multireligious coalition as in Nigeria.

Democracy works in a Fairly Homogeneous Society when the average level of Nationality and Education is very high. Then the majority population of good heads would select the best President to preside over the affairs of the Nation.

1. Do you think that the AVERAGE Nigerian has an above average level of Nationality and Education?
2. Do you think Nigeria can come to a level where Ethnicity, Religion and Education will not matter in any Election?






BTW: My Personal Thoughts
-I am NOT Igbo!
-I do not believe that Peter Obi is the Saviour Nigeria is looking for.
-I do not think that the present Government has the interest of the populace in mind (except if there is a drastic change in Baba's second term)
-Democracy unmodified is the worst form of governance needed by Nigeria for greatness
-Politics is the greatest failure in governance

Expanse2020:
is it untrue according to you that Satan disguise as Gabriel to meet Daniel 🤔🤔

ANSWER my questions and stop dodging


You know the difference?
1. No Gabriel appeared to Moses
2. Gabriel ALWAYS extends PEACE to whoever he came to.


Secondly,
God is the only One who can give LIFE to an inanimate thing!

Do you agree with this? Then even in Islam God is Jesus the Messiah


The one that met your prophet instead of extending peace to him strangled him almost to death three times and commanded him to read without giving him what to read.

To compound the problem, the apparition that came to Mohammed commanded him to read but instead of receiving ability to read, he remained an illiterate.


Again:
I heard that Iblis disguised himself as Jibril and gave your prophet verses of the Qur'an. How untrue is this with evidence please?



Dan 8:16-18:
"And I heard a man’s voice between the banks of the Ulai, which called, and said, Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision. So he came near where I stood; and when he came, I was affrighted, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man; for the vision belongeth to the time of the end. Now as he was speaking with me, I fell into a deep sleep with my face toward the ground; but he touched me, and set me upright."

Gabriel EXTENDED peace by by TOUCHING and LIFTING UP Daniel

Unlike the apparition that strangled a self-styled prophet.

Dan 9:21-22:
"yea, while I was speaking in prayer, the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the time of the evening oblation. And he instructed me, and talked with me, and said, O Daniel, I am now come forth to give thee wisdom and understanding."

How much of strangulation happened with Daniel.



So, how did Mohammed know that this apparition that attempted to strangle him was Jibril and NOT a Jinn as he had rightly first assumed.


Now, back to my Questions because without answering them one after the other, consider this conversation closed.

Ofemannnu:
What is competence by your own definition and mention one President or head of state that was competent.

OBJ had been the best we have had even with his previous flaws.

He wasn't tribalistic
He settled a chunk of our External Debt
He stabilised the Naira for the first time
Created many institutions that are standard today.
Had Technocrats in many major sections of Nigeria.

Above All, Nigerians were not suffering but we hoped for something better.


His FAILURES
1. Electricity with millions sunk to no avail
2. He is vindictive
3. His third term bid (against the constitution)



However, hindsight has shown that he is the BEST unselfish president we ever had!




So, your Question?
So, my definition of Competency
1. Killing Insecurity and uprooting it from the root
2. Turning Nigeria into a Producer Nation with manufacturing and exportation as the backrock.
3. Revamping and Repairing the dilapidated roads (rather than building new roads), making the rail be the bulwark of carrying heavy weights. Networking and securing all Interstate roads.
4. Creation of avenue for Jobs in industries
5. Making it difficult to carry out corruption in the high and low places.
6. Upgrading the Living standards of Nigerians
7. Making Health facility available for everyone who pays tax

If any President can achieve at least THREE of these SEVEN, he is very very COMPETENT

Putinofrussia:
If we remove the effect of subsidy removal (which actually has to be removed because it is unsustainable and it will make Nigeria bankrupt.),this govt is inarguably the best since 1960 because of its performance in some very important sectors like in education, communication,health, social welfare, infrastructures (this area is the most important in the growth and development of a nation), military etc

The current President is the most intelligent and the most shrewd Politician Nigeria has ever had in the helm of affairs.

His first term was just about consolidating Power
There is no president that has wielded the kind of control since we became a Republic.

The Governors are in his pocket
The House of Rep Members are in his pocket
The Senators are in his pocket
The Judiciary are in his pocket
The Press are in his pocket
The CBN and Financial Institution and Resources are in his pocket
Even INEC is not Free


Our President know their Language: MONEY!

The Devaluation was to fund these important sections of Nigeria.

Unfortunately, the People Groan
Because logically, the People do not matter for retaining Power. In people in these institutions are what matters.

Maybe during Baba's Second Term. he would remember the populace.

In the game of Politics, Baba is the King and I give him that.

SmartyPants:
1. Overdue in what sense? In a democracy where we theoretically operate on a one man one vote basis, is there any sense of a turn at the presidency being due to a particular region at a particular time? Does that mean each individual owes it to you to vote your region as opposed to exercising their free will?

2. Are you suggesting an Igbo president in particular is the answer to the ills of the present democracy? Can you explain further?

In any democracy where a sector of the populace feel disenfranchised, there is problem.

Secondly, by pure democracy only the Fulani and the Yoruba will ever rule this country! How about the Ijaw, Ibibio, Tangale, Edo, Itshekiri, Igbo etc. Should they be happy that population is not in their favour!?.
Like I said earlier:
If the current government have performed exceptionally, may they get a third time.

However if not, then at least we can achieve a resolution to the feelings of being disenfranchised by some people.



By the Way,
I do not like Democracy because when the majority of the populace are illiterates, they will always vote in incompetency

SmartyPants:
Why exactly?? Will that automatically make you richer and happier?

Because it is overdue!
Because the kind of Democracy we run can never allow the best brains from minority ethnic groups to become the president.

Is this the best governance possible!?
If YES, let it continue!
If NO, lets give another a chance

FSBoperator:
So it's no longer a competent candidate but down to just ethnicity.

You see why you people are described as an ethnic agenda.

Obi should go and run for Ohaneze PG instead because that's where his ethnic identity qualifies him most .

Democracy is the worst form of government for a Multicultural, Multiethnic and Multireligious nation.

If it must be practiced, it has to be with EQUITY in mind. Part of this is why we have the North-South rotational presidency. But it is worse than this because we know that competence or no competence, no Northern Christian can become the president of Nigeria.

If President Tinubu performed exceptionally well, we should support him even for the third term if possible.

fergie001:
https://www.facebook.com/61558865737604/posts/pfbid0mGVx1FnJwoSCaY59dKQomFJVgxauVY9iPL7Frcaz2y54rFU23AJdzSvDJDyHkaTKl/

We want a President of the Igbo extraction however, it seem the biggest opposition to this are money induced Igbo Sons and Daughters.

SMH!!

Lucifyre:
Yeah you're right, I don't understand inner workings of blood magic cults lol.

I agree with you because your EyeQ is a reflection of why simple things elude your cognition.


I truly feel Sorry for you

Expanse2020:
Just the Satan was disguise as Gabriel to meet Daniel David, and others right according to you ?


And last question is JESUS GOD?

You know the difference?
1. No Gabriel appeared to Moses
2. Gabriel ALWAYS extends PEACE to whoever he came to.


Secondly,
God is the only One who can give LIFE to an inanimate thing!

Do you agree with this? Then even in Islam God is Jesus the Messiah


The one that met your prophet instead of extending peace to him strangled him almost to death three times and commanded him to read without giving him what to read.

To compound the problem, the apparition that came to Mohammed commanded him to read but instead of receiving ability to read, he remained an illiterate.


Again:
I heard that Iblis disguised himself as Jibril and gave your prophet verses of the Qur'an. How untrue is this with evidence please?

Expanse2020:
Jesus created Satan naw
According to the Christian bible óò
Abi mu guy

Antiislam
TenQ

1. So, you ALSO find it difficult to believe Devil is real because the universe is far more bigger than what is written in any books!?

2. Yes! Jesus created the Arch Angel we now call Satan.

Col 1:16-17:
"for in him (Jesus) were all things created, in the heavens and upon the earth, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created through him, and for him; and he is before all things, and in him all things consist."


By the way!
The word Satan is a TITLE which comes from the Hebrew word שָׂטָן (satan), meaning “adversary,” or “opponent,” or “accuser.”



I heard that Iblis disguised himself as Jibril and gave your prophet verses of the Qur'an. How untrue is this with evidence please?

doffman:
O ye unbelievers ! 🤣

Just remain in that repetition mode ; okay !

I have caged all of you already .

Oya read:


Mark 11:12

12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it.


Omo , see your god Dey Hungry o .

An hungry god , is that one God ? 🤣🤣


Shioor

And he is busy exposing the limitations of his God.


Can your God eat if he chooses to?
Can you God be hungry if he chooses to?
Can your God become human if he chooses to?

There is NOTHING Difficult for my God to do: how about yours


Even Jibril is more powerful than Allah!

Sorry!

This is why Allah desperately want to make himself and my God the same.


Sorry!!

Lucifyre:
All his other xtain colleagues that prayed to ur god and died you didn't write epistles about them, the outlier is the one he must take credit for. Ironic thing is if this guy had died like many other christain colleagues before him, we won't hear any of it. Christains are being chopped down like meat in the north while calling on same god, no peep. The odd one survives, all glory to god. It's laughable.

If
Jesus died on the Cross
Peter was Crucified upside down
Paul was Beheaded
Countless others were Burned in Fire
Many Fed to Wild Animals



And you think the purpose of being thankful or being a Christian is because EVERYTHING works out beautifully for us: you must be kidding ws tou don't know the purpose of Christ in a Person!

Fortunatefortun:
Masturbation, the art of self-love or self-service has been in existence for longer than than modern humanity. It has been practised by various species and most importantly by human beings. However the morality of the practice has come into scrutiny more often than not with stiff opposition from Christianity as well as many other religions. But is it really a bad practice as the Church has projected it to be?

Here are some things you need to know:

1. There is no mention of masturbation in the Bible, neither is it condemned or forbidden by any of the Bible's authors, most notably, Masturbation was not mentioned amongst the forbidden sexual pactices listed in Leviticus 18 and 20

2. Moses could not have been ignorant of masturbation. Matsurbation was so common in ancient egyptian culture that it is impossible to say that Moses did not know about it. Here are some of the interwinings of Egyptian culture with masturbation:

• The Creation Myth (The Heliopolitan Cosmogony): The most widespread Egyptian creation story recounts that before the universe existed, there was only a chaotic void and the first god, Atum. Being entirely alone, Atum chose to populate the universe by masturbating to ejaculation. His semen birthed the first pair of twin deities: Shu (the god of air) and Tefnut (the goddess of moisture). This "divine orgasm" was effectively the Egyptian equivalent of the Big Bang.

• The Pyramid Texts and Coffin Texts: This foundational myth was carved directly onto the inner walls of pyramids and written inside sarcophagi. These official sacred texts explicitly credit the origin of life to Atum's hand.

• Pharaonic Rituals: Because the pharaoh was considered a living god on Earth and a mediator of cosmic order (Ma'at), the myth was re-enacted. During annual agricultural festivals (such as the festival of the fertility god Min), the pharaoh would ceremonially ejaculate into the Nile River. This public, ritualistic act was intended to ensure the fertile flooding of the Nile and a prosperous harvest for Egypt.

• Erotic Literature: Beyond religion, documents like the Turin Erotic Papyrus feature secular, graphic, and sometimes satirical depictions of human sexuality—including self-pleasure—showing that it was a normalized concept in everyday Egyptian society.

3.Jesus never condemned masturbation nor reference it though he mentioned lust which in not mutually exclusive to masturbation
With all these, if masturbation was a sin, why didnt Jesus condemn it? Why didnt Moses condemn it as one of the practices of the heathen?

Rather than being a sin or having negative medical effects, masturbation has the advantage of lowering sexual tension and hormonal urges without intercourse thus even helping to fight lust and sexual immorality. So once again, is masturbation a sin or did we make it one?

Your argument is like
1. Cocaine, Heroin, Indian Help are not DIRECTLY written anywhere in the Bible. Hallucinating herbs must have been available at that time thus, it is okay to take drugs

2. Why not pass masturbation through the filter of Phillipians 4:8

Philp 4:8:
"Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honorable, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, meditate on these things."


Some activities are more spiritual than tou think!


1Ths 4:3:
"For God wants you to be holy and pure and to keep clear of all sexual sin"

doffman:
Ahaaa, you unbelievers just remain in this your repetition okay !



How far now ? 🤣

The Believer in the rebranded Hubal who has three daughters he has disowned thinks himself as a believer!

Isnt this a joke?


Is it true your God has TWO right hands!?

Cum4me:
you just said it all. They don't care only human dose this. Many are mentally cage by this false religion humans are intelligently dangerous to themselves

SMH!

Animals dont care about God
Animals dont care about satan or demons
Animals dont care about Good or Evil
Animals dont care about Morality


Animals CANNOT commit SIN!
Animals CANNOT be EVIL!

Except you compare yourself to one!

Truthseeker10:
So what is the "breath" that returns to God?

Shame on you for not knowing that the breath in the verse is NOT Air. To you, God is physical so he must breathe in Oxygen and breathe out Carbon Dioxide.

Shior!

Let me Educate you
The Breath is the SPIRIT of Man that is recalled back to God like Jesus described with Abraham, Lazarus and the Rich man for accountability.
Abraham and Lazarus were in Peace BUT the Rich Man was in Torment.




Is the spirit of man unconscious or conscious?
It is a YES or NO answer even if you will explain yourself.



I am waiting for your answer except if as usual you do not know the answer !

Truthseeker10:
Explain na....are you not the one telling us how "breath" burns in hell?

Dundee Dedenson

TenQ:
So, YOU think it is the AIR a man breathes that return to God!

Note:
Breath is the air that moves in and out of your lungs when you breathe, and also the single act of inhaling and exhaling that air.

Explain what you mean if it is different

Shior!

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣 Teacher don confuse. You don't want to admit that spirit is "breath" abi, because it would not make sense for "breath" to burn in hell abi?

He cannot explain what Breath mean!
SMH!

Allah says:
Unto MY God YOU submit !

And this is disturbing you!?

Qur'an 29:46
Do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in the best manner—unless it is with those who act unjustly—and say, “We believe in what has been revealed to us and what has been revealed to you.
Our God and your God is one, and to Him we submit.”

The truth will always execute the liars

doffman:
At last 👏 👏 I have successfully set all unbelievers into same repetition mode 🤣🤣🤣🤣


Even islamvirgins japa 🤣🤣


Christianity don cast ahaaaa

The Believer in the rebranded Hubal who has three daughters he has disowned thinks himself as a believer!

Isnt this a joke?

jaephoenix:
1. You didn’t report the symptoms to me but you already told me what the symptom is,and its fever. Fever is a symptom and I just explained that it could be symptomatic of a whole range of diseases from mild to severe. And i also told you i have symptoms like fever and headache,i dont even take any meds and i sleep it off. But your brain is so filled with religion that any scientific explanations wouldnt fit in
We are truly doomed as Nigerians

2. So if it wasnt my eyes or symptoms,i cant offer any scientific explanations? So why do people go to doctors for explanations and help since the symptoms arent experienced by the doctors?
I asked you a question and you're dodging it. Lemme ask again, was the 'healing' instantaneous or gradual? I will keep on asking you the hard questions til u get tired of dodging them

3. Insulting me wont make me stop. ARE YOU SAYING PRAYERS DONT WORK FOR NIGERIA? SO SHOULD CHRISTIANS STOP PRAYING? As long as you dodge this question, I'll be reminding you

4. I'll keep on asking you. WHO ARE THE PEOPLE YHWH CALLED HIS OWN PEOPLE? I will not stop asking

5. Oga smart. So pituitary actions are script,abi? No wahala. So what is the import of that question

6. So i should admit someone exist before i hear about his capabilities? No wonder u r a Christian. Puttng the cart before the horse

7. I just told you Big Bang. Do u now have reading difficulties

1. Congratulations You must have healed yourself
2..It is such a hard question with answer known only to you, too bad
3. So says you
4. Keep talking then
ask yourself the question
5. Sorry
6. So, its no more the fundamental regularities you call the laws of physics that emerged alongside spacetime BUT the Big Bang!?
You have successfully confused yourself!

Pele?

Truthseeker10:
You are the teacher here. Is there any other type of "breath" that you know?

Since you don't know the answer, there is no point continuing.

Have a great day or till you answer the question!

Truthseeker10:
So what is the breath mentioned in Psalms 146:4 Below?

King James Bible
His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish

New King James Version
His spirit departs, he returns to his earth; In that very day his plans perish

If you don't know the answer to the question it's not compulsory you stay engaged.



I said:
Explain what you mean if it is different

Truthseeker10:
King James Bible
His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish

New King James Version
His spirit departs, he returns to his earth; In that very day his plans perish

According to the king James version above, are you saying that it is the breath that leaves man at death that goes to hell?

So,you think it is the AIR a man breathes that return to God!

Note:
Breath is the air that moves in and out of your lungs when you breathe, and also the single act of inhaling and exhaling that air.

Explain what you mean if it is different

jaephoenix:
1. What do you mean 'it wasnt my fever'? Can you explain this meaningless phrase?

Were you the one feeling the symptoms? No!
And I didn't report the symptoms to you: did I?

jaephoenix:
2. Oga,someone can be blind and be taking meds for it. He may have had glaucoma and was on meds. At least pretend to be educated for once. Dont allow religion to be eating into your brain.
Another question. Was the healing spontaneous or gradual? That would give me a better cue

Sorry!
Was it your eyes?
The person who was healed didn't have to be told that something happened instantaneously to his eyes. The fact that he got born again that same night is a testament.

Even if the dead were to rise up to speak to you, you wouldn't believe. So. its your cup of tea!

jaephoenix:
3. Another meaningless sentence. What do you mean seeking and knocking arent things we do by our efforts?
I asked you a question more than 24 hours and you have been dodging it. Lemme use caps again so you ll have no excuse
ARE YOU SAYING PRAYERS DONT WORK FOR NIGERIA? SO SHOULD CHRISTIANS STOP PRAYING? As long as you dodge this question, I'll be reminding you

Tell me as a medical doctor that you have such a low EyeQ that may call for a re-evaluation of your upstairs.

jaephoenix:
4. Who are the people Yhwh call his people. You still haven't answered this one

Do I need to answer this especially when Google is your friend

jaephoenix:
5. Which script are you talking about?
We are talking about the pituitary gland and the hormones in charge of coordinating maturity
Why is it that Christians you think that are smart suddenly exhibit some trends that make me think religion is a bug? If u dont understand any scientific topic,which in this case is endocrinology, simply ask professionals, or google it. Attributing it to some rubbish is what we call god of the gap. (I dont understand something...therefore god)

Feigning stewpiditi doesn't help you.
Script mean instructions sent from or by or to relevant organs in the human body at the appropriate time.

See how you have to be spoon-fed!

jaephoenix:
6.An uncaused causer? What is the name of this entity AND HOW DO YOU KNOW ITS YOUR FAVORITE SKY DADDY AND NOT THOR,BRAHMA ETC
Also since you insist the universe is created by an uncaused causer who just exists without being created,why cant the universe have existed without being created?

A stewpid question until you first admit that at least a "skydaddy" exists. Otherwise, its like explaining quantum physics to a farmer in Irese land

jaephoenix:
7. The fundamental regularities we call the laws of physics emerged alongside spacetime during the birth of the universe in the Big Bang

The question I asked was
Is there anything outside Chemistry and Physics that explains Physical Nature?

Note that even the Atoms were not formed instantly after the Big Bang. It took roughly 380,000 years for the universe to cool down enough for the very first stable, neutral atoms to form.

wellmax:
The problem is not whether government can afford it. The bigger problem is how many states and especially private firm can afford it.

If only FG can pay, what do you anticipate will happen to getting FG jobs.

Make Una dey think

Inflation to will be high.

If private school teachers earn N400k, suggest a sustainable school fee?

You see what I am saying

What is your recommendation?