olujaidi:
theconglomerate

Do you orgasm from quarrels?

I wasn't quelling,fools were just barking when presented with objectivity.

ahiboilandgas:
ok talk say na onne port i dey operate...no need for me to come port....unless u are buiding 650k barrel refinery...for now i just decode u are a lair with your accounts of apapa to ajao ....impoter wanna be .....i never look dangote finish na u mushroom business i go travel ph go see ....abi u be wike ...

What is so fancy about importation that is making you feel is so impossible to attain or too fancy is what I still don't understand till now
Something 20 year old boys in Onitsha are using to start life by sharing 20 ft container space with their friends.
You maybe shouting oil and gas all the time weh people weh fit pass you here wella just dey look you dey laugh.
If I tell you make we post wetin your oil and gas business don give you while I post what my mushroom trading business have given me,I'm sure you will learn to enter your shell more.
Job title is nothing.

ahiboilandgas:
how do ministry of land people know ever new unapproved buildings they Mark...if u dont know all petrol imported and sold in apapa port we pay 0.5 naira per litre to the union ..any truck coming into apapa has a ptd fees and union dues paid ....truck dont fly into the port ....they pass alaka to ijoria to marine beach to warf or take mile 2 to tincan or take Liverpool to tincan via coconuts ...in all those check points their are union people ....if apple importers seller are a organise
body they wil get all shipping manifesto from Npa ....i know say na lie u blow sha ....good nite i wan sleep...

Apple is containerised in reefer(container with fridge),like small round grapes,imported fresh foods,fish,etc....
Nobody can tell which is which in the container till it gets to the markets and people take to the market in lagos because that's where cold rooms are located for storage.
During scarcity caused by muslim fasting,it gets scarce and customers can do anything for products.
So you take the product to another place other than market since you don't need storage in cold rooms because clients are ready to buy immediately,so you can avoid coldroom rent and offload levy in the market.
What you don't know,ask and learn than to be running your mouth.
Everything is not kerosene business.

ahiboilandgas:
i will come and buy from aaaaaaaajjjjjjoooaaaaa estate...i luv apples

I don't sell apples no more.
This was wayback 2014.
If you want to know what I do and see my business,come to Port Harcourt and feed your eyes.
Maybe after that you will learn to shut up more.

Union have power only in their markets they control.
Different markets have different unions for different items.
What union can do is that they will make sure you don't sell in any market around lagos by calling their correspondents in the market you are leaving theirs for and you will get same treatment.
But if you have your customers already and can align with them when goods are scarce,they will come to wherever you are offloading and carry the product there and union won't know.
Not like they can do anything but for future purposes because scarcity won't last forever.
When normalcy returns,they can deny you from operating in the market again,that's all.
Cartel like say them go come shoot gun for where you dey offload

ahiboilandgas:
i will agree that u sell a truck load of your imaginary apple on the road side in Lagos cash abi or inside ajao estate....

Whether you agree or not does not matter na..
But since you are a cartel guru in lagos state,I will like you to tell us how your cartel people will know that I have apple if I don't come to arena market at all but move the goods from the port straight to a warehouse in Ajao.
They now have spies in the ports that monitor every reefer container and its movement around lagos na

ahiboilandgas:
cos u cant answer ...i want to know to cross check with the price they are giving me..

I won't answer.
Know the difference.
If you need help with clearing a container,go apapa and look for an agent.
You can discuss trucking and clearing with him.
Je will give you his quote,then you go to other agents and get their quotes..compare them and pick the cheapest then you import.

ahiboilandgas:
if u answer then i know u know what happing in the ports not theories...what the cost from port to Ajao estate for 40 ft or 20 ft ....

What makes you think I want or need any validation of any kind from you?
"So that you will know that I know what's happening in the ports?"
So if you accept that I was an importer perhaps it's going to change my style or standard of living.
The delusions of importance.

ahiboilandgas:
international trade expert which of the ports in Lagos do apple land ? Tincan or warf .....what the cost of 20 ft container from apapa to your oshodi

ahiboilandgas:
confused clown ...u said a man earning minimum wage...abi u don drink

You have run out of objectivity and honestly talking out of point.
A man earning minimum wage means what?

ahiboilandgas:
i want to sure u have been to the port....what is the name of the police station opps flourmills Nigeria ? Is very popular.2 how many custom check points do we have from warf to marine beach 3 what is the name of the round about from tincan port in ward apapa commerical area .....what the name of the prominent hospital by this round abouts.....answer this question then i will know u are a real importer of apple selling on traffic not audio

I don't know who you think you are asking this kind of question.
"You want to make sure"?
Are you kidding?I tell you make you bring money make we do business together that you are asking me to verify myself to you? I will take it as a slip of tongue.
So I ask you again and you should answer me objectively,what stops me from entering into ajao estate to offload during peak period and align with my customer to come and carry from any warehouse there?

ahiboilandgas:
i said u be false theory guy...u dont rice is sold in cups in Nigeria ..a man on 33 k will buy 3 cups for 600 naira and manage ....how many Nigerians dey buy bags ....that why firms are producing sachet milk ,toothpaste etc to target this group of low income earners

He will buy in cups if he will even see the cups to buy.
Retailers are driven by profits,not emotions.
90% of retailers will buy 15k local rice to retail than to buy 33k foreign rice to retail because they will make more profits on the local one of 15k.
Retailers will go to market and buy the cheap one to sell because of the margin they will make,not caring which is imported or not.
If 90% of petty traders are buying the cheaper one to retail,where will the poor masses now see the foreign one to buy in cups when it is barely available in the market?
Is it not what you see that you will buy?
You see say you are the one saying what you don't know now na.
It is better to keep shut and listen and learn from trade expert than argue what you don't know.

Focusingmore:


Ok slowspoke , if fx becomes 700/1 dollar
, will the price of tomatoes not become cheaper in naira relative to dollars?

Can you see how your replies are daft.

It will become cheaper for anyone holding dollars that want to buy Nigeria tomatoes.
So how is this bad for a person growing tomato in Nigeria that will make more sales because of more patronage from foreign clients?
What's your point?

ahiboilandgas:
i now know u dont have any idea about Lagos ..branch ko ...fly ni....if u like carry trailer of tomatos pass mile 12 and branch parkveiw estates Osborne....and sell there ....better stop embarrasing urself ....

What will happen?
You and who dey talk about tomatoes?
I say Apple inside reefer containers.
So the market union are now working with Nigeria customs and port authority to give them info on the content of every container weh dey commot apapa right?

ahiboilandgas:
school un false imaginative non working theories ....am old enough to give practical example of terrible effect of devaluations....u are baby that why u know only foriegn rice which started in the early 1990....if u dont know rice was not eating daily in Nigeria in 70 and 80 ...only during patties and sundays ...in those day it mainly local rice in Nigeria and uncle ben rice ...

Devaluation will increase shelf prices,but atleast we will own the industries,the jobs and the distribution.
I know a lot of people today who are naira billionaires because of golden penny distributorship that are developing their various places and giving jobs to people.
So enough of all your artificial naira strength stories.

ahiboilandgas:
i know get strengths to type ...u dont know the state or markets...and i will not tell u...really people buy thing on truck in Lagos from Apapa to oshodi ....how old are u ? ...i been around those location for 14 years....u must be a clown ...even plantain cartels in boundary markets olodi apapa will not allow truck discharge....only via market union arrangmeents

Who told you this one?
If truck dey come from Apapa and I align with my clients and branch to sell to them inside Ajao estate,I'm sure the union chairman will consult the oracles to know what I am doing at ajao right?
You think I will come and stand in front of the market and start offloading where they'll see me?
You really don't have to tell me about markets because apparently I know more than you on it.

ahiboilandgas:
2016 na ....u are more of theory your proposal are like academic thesis to me .....not reality....

Local produce definitely will be expensive too because of devaluation because the people producing locally need to also buy imported things so they raise their price.
The issue is the degree of inflation.
Now in 2016,foreign,smuggled rice rose to 33k a bag whereas local was 15k,I don't know where you got 20k from and people were switching to it upon stones.
2016 was the reason why Nigerians got a taste of local rice and know it is good too and today see where we are.
By your own example,you clearly see the difference between local and imported during devaluation.
So if you were on minimum wage,what rice will you buy?20k or 33k?
I have been in international trade worldwide long enough to school a lot of you on the benefits of devaluation.

Focusingmore:


You clearly can't read.

Hint. Relate it to import and exports.

Interpretation is key.

You have an agbero mentality. Not worth my time .

How do I interpret nonsense for God's sake.
You should face your asylum quietly,you clearly have no brains.

ahiboilandgas:
..a small basket of irish patatos is around 1200...then suddenly Islamic fasting start price jumps to 3000 ...not because of demand and outpace supply nooo....i was with the union chairman of perishable markets and he explain to me how they spike up prices ...all trucks coming from jos to the state is only allowed to discharge in that market ...so the products owners are not allow to retail to the end users but through a complex chain run by the union ..so they discharge only 1 truck daily will over 30 trucks filled with irish patatos are awating ....the hike prices (200 percents) sell to desperate customers ,maintain daily price stabilty all through the fasting period.....this a local cartel ...

That chairman is a liar.
Who will have his truck of perishable goods such as irish potato stand in line to wait for you in the market in a queue because you are doing cartel nonsense,especially in high demand season such as fasting?
Cartels will purchase all the products and hoard it,not instruct middlemen to wait.
Irish potato is very movable and must not be sold in a market,especially during fasting when people are looking for it.
So what stops a middleman to move his truck from union controlled market to a good corner and start selling from the truck?
In my time as an importer,I use to bring apples and grapes from France,egypt(grape) and SA to sell in Ikeja Arena market.
During fasting,apple becomes very scarce because muslims worldwide rush it and products get scarce from the source.
When product leave Apapa to Arena,in that traffic from Oshodi clients start buying apple in traffic and trans load to small buses.
Before truck reach Arena goods don finish,all paid cash.
So how does union cartel stop control this,especially for desperate periods as fasting?

ahiboilandgas:
says who ....naira was devalued tailand rice jumped from 7500 to 30k while local rice jump from 5k to almost 20k ....are u in Nigeria

What year of devaluation did this happen?

Focusingmore:


Listen up child.

Mr tomato seller, if the price of tomatoes goes down via devaluation, will that incentivise you to produce more?

Think!


Now let's say you decide to produce more being a dullard, at what cost?

To increase production you might need heavy duty machinery which is now more expensive because the currency is devalued.


I don't have to answer your questions because it's fraught with idiocy..

You probably won't understand my answer because you're a buffoon who thinks he's smart.

How will the price of tomato go down via devaluation?Is it not suppose to go up instead?
If it is imported,when you devalue its price goes up.
If it is produced locally,it price will still go up too but slightly or a negligible increase compared to its imported counterpart.
So you see you even gave a wrong answer and a very stupid example.

Secondly dumbfùck,machinery are one off investments,industries don't buy machineries everyday so devaluation has never stopped any serious person from buying machinery because when he buys one today,he might be buying another in 5 years.so why should that bother the person?
What you might say is imported raw material will be more expensive to import,but they'll make cover for it by completing the production process in naira bases.
So what stops them from getting extra funds and buying 5he machine knowing that they will make the borrowed money in a jiffy as a result of demand for cheaper alternative.
Bros leave matters,you no get sense.

Focusingmore:


I want you to educate yourself first before I address your questions.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/briandomitrovic/2018/09/01/do-devaluations-really-help-trade/

I know you don't have enough brainpower to answer the things I asked you so I honestly wasn't expecting a reply.
I am shocked to even see a quote from you,even though it was quite empty but you did what your fragile brain could do anyway.
You can't give what you don't have.

GonFreecss1:


This! This! We are very broke!

According to them Nigeria has so much money.
The government needs to do this,the government needs to do that....
Like say na empty hand dem dey use do am

NL1960:


Eating pringles?. Is it foreign pringles imported with subsidized fx or locally produced pringles?.

Imported.
I am not preaching buy Nigeria and grow naira,no.
I am talking of a way to force Nigerians to buy nigerian with brute force without using a gun.
There's a difference.

Focusingmore:


Taxes . What's going on in Nigeria is extortion.

State sponsored mechanised agriculture.( They can import industrial machinery when d currency is strong

Also debts become manageable).

Educated populace to drive growth.

Policies that are small business friendly

Credit .. critical.

It's that simple

Taxes?How do you tax a people that aren't employed and don't own taxable businesses?

State sponsored agriculture?
The government has been trying to make the 4 Nigeria refineries work since kingdom come and you want to add another very complicated parastatal to it?
Isn't that creating and breeding another corruption engine?

Education?
Are Nigerians not educated?
The government have subsidised education enough for anyone that wants to learn na.

Policies that are small business friendly?
Everyone knows Nigeria is a small business haven where they completely don't pay taxes and aren't disturbed by social industries such as price control and other rubbish organisations,so what's your point?
Make government dey dash them money I suppose

Credit?
Is government suppose to provide credit for it's citizens?
I thought that was done by banks already
You want banks to be giving credit to unworthy people because they want to grow the economy?
I got stanbic bank ezcash 4m naira credit while seated on my couch eating pringles.
Does credit worthy Nigerians lack credit?
Even in America,their government don't have any hand in giving credit to its citizens.

So this is how you want to take Nigeria out of misery and boost it's economy I suppose.

NL1960:


31 baskets and you are currently doing 2 baskets. Why then are you arguing that he cannot pay your salary?.

lol maybe because I sell the best quality tomatoes.
You know the higher the quality,the higher the price

NL1960:


How many baskets of tomatoes will €322 buy?.

31 baskets ooo....

Focusingmore:


Keep ranting to someone who can pay your salary.

But I don't do paid employment so what salary are you talking about?
How does someone who is on Irish government welfare program for asylum seekers pay anyone's salary for God's sake?
Have they increased welfare money from €322/month?

Focusingmore:


Devaluation means i can buy more of Nigeria at your expense.

I get richer for doing absolutely feck all.

Continue with the ignorance.

I'm sure you know you can still be in a foreign country and poor
How do you buy Nigeria at my expense when you've probably not fed yourself properly in your host country?
The people worth their salt overseas are happy for devaluation whereas you are here ranting,telling us how empty your account might be,buffoon.

Focusingmore:


Piss off , u r a clueless unexposed slowpoke.

Been reading your gibberish nonesense.

Why are you triggered?
I'm sure you are ranting because devaluation might make you starve to death.

wezo01:


So the cars with petrol engines don't have issues
I see a lot of BLUETEC diesel in Lag
Oga, go and buy tires with your 2m and wait till your time... Looks like you dreamt and saw yourself driving a E class Benz...
Very funny human being... You put your brains before your mouth
Afterall, I said 'interested buyer' should holla
I didn't ask for your opinion 'Mr. No one buys diesel in Nigeria'

You see a lot of bluetecs in lagos

Focusingmore:


Yeah the clueless argumentative guy thinks companies just spring out of no where.

If hardship changes things and motivates people to be productive, Nigeria should be manufacturing planes by now.

No one said hardship motivates people.Maybe you are so daft that you can't get the point.
We already have motivated people that are already showing signs of their productivity despite unfavourable market climates.
We just need the unmotivated ones to buy what the motivated ones will produce when the time comes.
The unmotivated ones will be employed by the motivated ones to balance society as well.
And no,we don't need Nigeria to start manufacturing planes,we just need to produce what we consume first.
We can always use that revenue and buy planes rather than produce them