Righteousness2:
The truth hurts.
As long as you are engaged in Evil, whenever you see or hear the truth, it naturally breeds anger and hate in you because of what is in you.

The Holy Bible is GOD ALMIGHTY handbook to humanity.
The Holy Bible is the Word of GOD

And word of men

The terrorists that are killing in the name of islam are obviously not following the religion. For over 1400 years, some set of people just so happened to suddenly understand the Quran that people have been reading and studying for years about 20-30 years back abi and the majority of people they even kill are muslims and it just so happened that ISIS crept out after the america's invasion to IRAQ abi. The so called "muslim" terrorists don't even make up to 0.02% of the muslims. That's not shocking to you that only that percentage of people understand the religion of Islam. Oh please!

What caused world war 1 and 2. Hiroshima and nagasaki.

What caused world war 1 and 2.

To be clear there is nothing like 'this God, that God' ,it's just God. It's the concept of God that is different This is a muslim's belief. We believe in one God, we believe in all prophets Allah sent. The Quran says 124,000 prophets were sent to mankind that last of them being Muhammad (peace be upon him). We believe in jesus son of mary( peace be upon him). Islam is the only non christian faith that believes in jesus. (You can't be a muslim without believing in jesus) We believe in the injeel that was given to him. But the bible we have today ehnn, jesus would be shocked at what is in the bible. The additions and corrections and editions and subtractions that the bible has undergone can't make us trust it's content as complete word of God. Some of them are word of God, some of them are word of men.
The Quran is the final revelation from the God.
We believe in all the books that were given to the prophets.

And arab christians say Allah too. Allah is what's written in the bible in arabic.


Read the Quran and the bible and ask questions. The truth is objective and it's not about my opinion or any one's opinion. Sincerely ask God for guidance

LordReed:


Why? Do skyscrapers get built by only 1 person?

The qualifications of God are All powerful, All knowing, the greatest, e.t.c. There can't be 2 greatest supreme beings. It's like saying there are 2 fastest men alive. It has to be one

TimeIllusion:






You can’t prove God with logic.
You say, “God exists”. Your statement is either true or false.
I negate your statement, “God does not exist”. My statement is either true or false.
If your statement is true, mine is necessarily false, and vice versa.
I don’t have to do anything but negate your statement and wait for you to prove your statement. Since you can NEVER prove the existence of God, my statement is true.


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This is a facallcy
It's an appeal from ignorance (Argumentum ad ignorantiam)

You need proof from Theists to accept that your statement "God does not exist" is false but don't you think Theists also need proof from you to accept their claim "God exists" is also false.

You said you don't have to do anything but negate the statement "God exist" that seems very convenient
Now let's have it the other way now.
Claim "God doesn't exist" and let theists not do anything and wait for you to proof God does not exist which you can NEVER do otherwise, God exists

[The fact no one HAS or HAS NOT come up with proof or the evidence of the existence of God may amount to ignorance, since there's no evidence adequate to establish both assertions]

So you don't just get to say since theists can't prove the existence of God, you are right. Since Theists can also say since atheists can't prove the non existence of God, then they are right

There is nothing like "christian God, my God, your God". There is just one creator of the universe. It's the concept or understanding of God that varies from one religion to the other. There can only be one creator of the universe..

IamMichael:


This is one of those questions that twists the mind and really gets you thinking long and hard when you really put your mind to it.

Looking at the earth and the universe by extension, it's easy to imagine that the whole universe couldn't have dropped out of thin air. With the way and structure the whole universe is arranged, this line of thought becomes harder to do away with. At the end of it all, we are left with the simple question of trying to figure out if indeed there is something or someone out there who might have a clue as to how we got here. This raises the question of God or no God; Creator or No Creator!

I will like to think that the question of a creator is one that we can possibly never answer except the said creator decides to show up and clarify things by Itself. It's easy for some people to take advantage of this gaping hole in the search for a creator to create groups and call it religious organizations as well as the euphoric frenzy the adherents gain from such fantasy. But, at the end of the day, the teachings of the religious groups exposes the ignorance of the proponents. This is because, you can't explain what is illogical!

So, is the universe God? Though the most common belief among people of different races accross the world is that there is probably a creator of the universe, there is the argument that maybe, the Universe itself is God. This goes back to the First Cause argument. The First Cause argument in summary supposes that everything has a beginning and that there is a first cause for anything in the universe. With this proposition, the proponents of the First Cause argument also conclude that God is the Uncaused First Cause!

Remember what i said earlier about the fact that you can't explain the illogical? This is one of those illogical arguments. What this 'First Cause' argument proponents always fail to understand is that if their First Cause theory or proposition is true like they said, then it leaves the question of "What caused God". The sole core or basis of the arguments by First Cause proponents is that everything is Caused by something to come into existence. So, what is the First Cause for the said God they preach? Did this God just spin out of thin air?

Again, let's also assume that this God that Caused our Universe to exist has a creator, who created his creator? Or course, the First Cause will always continue infinitum because something does not just come out from thin air!

Most proponents will easily tell you that God needs no explanation. But, that's a joke though as you already know! Why? Because the same argument for a God being a First Cause can also be said of the Universe itself. When you really look at it, What other God do you know that is not the Universe? The universe is everything, isn't it? It is likely the only God thing you can actually hold onto and acclaim the God status for, isn't it?

The funny thing is, we practically know nothing about the universe itself, except what the universe itself has allowed us to know.

https://uptownerd.com/2021/01/17/is-the-universe-god/

It's very logical to believe there is a creator that created the universe and the creator by NECESSITY must be uncreated and the creator can't be the universe because the universe as we all know began to exist and we know that anything that begins to exist requires a cause
When someone makes a claim that he is a prophet of God, (a messenger from the uncreated creator) that means he is bringing a message from God. That's a very big claim that you'll have to back up with clear convincing proof cos anyone can claim that and we'll need proof to be able to differentiate between the truth and falsehood. I believe God sent many prophets and messengers to mankind to tell us about himself. Adam, Noah, Lot, Abraham,David, Solomon, Isaac ,Job, Jesus, Muhammad (peace be upon all of them). All we can know about God ( the uncreated creator) would be what the prophets and messengers said about him. We can't just make up our SUBJECTIVE ideas of God cos that wouldn't make it the right belief about God. Anyone who is searching for truth should read the Bible and the Quran and pray SINCERELY to God for guidance.

I like this path of questioning you are towing. ;
Logic and faith has to go hand and hand

JesusSonOfGod:




John 1:1-4  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

 

John 1:1-4, 10-14  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

 
Revelation 19:13  And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

 

 

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John 1:1-4  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

 

John 1:1-4, 10-14  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

 
Revelation 19:13  And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

 

 

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John 1:1-4  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

 

John 1:1-4, 10-14  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

 
Revelation 19:13  And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

 

 

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God by definition is eternal, no beginning and no end. Jesus had a date of birth (i.e he had a beginning) therefore he can't be God. The true God is God the creator that created the universe and created jesus son of mary.

The5DME:
You all hate hate homosexuals but the real truth is that you're all just too scared to admit your dear God is not perfect.
Humans were designed to be two genders: male and female and the were made to feel attracted to the themselves. Anything other than that is an ' error' on the pargof our creators.

Don't blame homosexuals, blame God(jehovah, yahweh, Allah, etc).

Do you think men anus was designed for penetration.. Or do you think the female vagina was designed to be rubbing against each other. Everybody understands that penis was supposed to go inside a vagina. There is nothing like born homosexuals. Though it's a desire people feel inclined to. That's the same excuse pedophiles give. In hundred years, incest, pedophilia is probably gonna be accepted with (we were born that way)

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Vinceobrian:
God chooses to know what ever he want to know.... remember the story of lot, he sends his Angles there to check if there's a righteous person there before he destroyed the city.....he choose not to know that part.

So the god you worship might choose not to know if you'll wake up tomorrow or not?. Kasala ti beaux

truthmans2012:


Does Allah forgive muslims' sins? If he does, why are your sins and good deeds recorded for judgement on the day of resurrection?

Anyone that sincerely regrets his sins and doesn't want to do it again is forgiven like he never even did it.

truthmans2012:
Muslims don't have any idea of Godliness. They can abuse, even when they are preaching. They can maim and kill. Violent people.

I don't think you've read about your history.

truthmans2012:
Islam seems to be very fashionable these days. Why? Because it is growing numerically. A muslim man at the age of 30 would have got three or four wives and many children.

Places in the South West where muslims are very few about 30 years ago are being dominated by them today due to uncontrolled birth. Many of them don't count the cost of having many children. No wonder many of their children are uneducated. You find them in majority as carpenters, bricklayers, mechanics and other artisanship.

Islam appeals to carnal minds as you can commit any kinds of sin but just keep observing solat five times a day and you are good to go with Allah. Islam does not require any self-denial to please their god. This is the reason many find it convenient to practice it and it appears to them so fashionable.

The Bible says that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination to God ( Luke 16:15). That means to say Islam falls in that category.

Jesus said when I come back will I find faith? (Luke 18:8 ). As islam is not the faith Jesus expected to find, he will meet them plenty as Chritianity is dwindling as Jesus prophesied. But he was talking about the Christians who follow him.

The islam you formed in ur imagination? maybe it's christianity that you wanted to describe where you believe someone died for your sins and you're good to go. In islam you are responsible for your sins and even if you pray 5 times daily unless you ask for forgiveness.

Jman24:




Lol. Why do you guys bear all these names ; Anti this Anti that..

But on a more serious note. How can God(eternal) 'no beginning or end' descend to be a man?
I can't even justify this incomprehensibility.

Exactly. It's like imagining a squared circle

Ihedinobi3:


Hello.

The above is like saying that the definition of a man is naked and that wearing clothes is a contradiction.

Certainly, God is self-existing. That is, He does not owe His existence to anything outside of Himself. Having a body and human spirit made for Him so that He can use it to die for human sin does not change the fact that He is self-existing.

This example get as e be
. And this issue of God dying (Another contradiction) is the same as the man having a beginning issue. God = no beginning and no end and at the same time god had a birth (a beginning) and a death (an end) is a contradiction.. Nobody can die for anyone's sin and nobody can inherit anyone's sin.
And God committing suicide or getting killed by his creation to forgive his creation sins is all shades of ridiculous

Let's say you stole a sweet from my shop, all I have to do if I want to forgive you after pleading is just forgive you. Imagine I tell you "I'll forgive you on one condition, kill my innocent son that is sleeping at home and we are even". That's way worse than the crime you even committed. All I have to do is just forgive you. No killing or anything has to happen.

Ihedinobi3:


Please understand that I don't take responsibility for what anyone wants to or doesn't want to believe. If you cannot accept something as true, I'm fine with your choice to reject it. I'm really not invested in your choices. They're entirely your prerogative.

I see nothing contradictory in God putting on human flesh. Why that is a problem is something I really don't know. Is it impossible for a king to humble himself to peasantry for a little while? We humans manage that quite well, but somehow this is something contradictory when God does it?

I believe that God added a human nature to His divine one in order to die for us. It doesn't confuse me or leave me incredulous. It makes sense to me. It makes sense to all those who are being saved. I don't really know how I can help you if you find it contradictory.

The definition of God is eternal, i.e no beginning and no end. A man that has a date of birth has a beginning. God becoming a man is a contradiction. It's like a bachelor getting married and still being called a bachelor. The very definition of a bachelor is an unmarried man. Saying a bachelor got married made him no longer a bachelor. The same way saying God became a man no longer makes the man God.. The only true GOD is the Creator of heaven and earth. The creator of all the creation. The creator that sent all the prophets to tell us about him and they did just that and man turned Jesus (peace be upon him) a creation of God to God when Jesus didn't say that. How long do you think it would take Jesus to just say the "I am God, worship me". He lived 30something years (according to the bible) and he missed out the most important message the Christians claim today. I don't think he was trying to be humble. He is a servant of God not God. Worship his God

Holy spirit is jesus again?!..

Emyzoloye5:



correct weed isn't harmful to the brains .....maybe your nephew takes the ones mixed with other substances

the ones I take is clean and it's from a reliable source

cigarettes are even more harmful than weed

Any thing that disrupts intellect is something you should completely avoid. Weed doesn't make you think clearly.

1)You're not too young to die
2) engage in beneficial things
3). We're only successful/not after we die
4). Keep good and beneficial circle of friends
5). Don't think there is no reward or consequences for your actions

So many "this is backwardness", "this is why Nigeria will remain like this" opinions. This idea of equating nudity, sexual immorality with civilization and moving forward seems like a post colonial effect. Our forefathers that were taken as slaves were way better than us in the sense that they even tried to fight back. The new slavery is LIBERALISM (do what you want) disguised as freedom. Religious people are now seen as backward and the liberal view is moving forward. It's seems like the more we display sexual immorality, the more we take of our clothes, the more we behave like animals is the way we move forward.
May Allah save us from moving forward to his wrath

Ctrl+Z

N.B what muslims do and what islam says are two different things.

The year I realized death is not only for old people
The year I found the purpose of my existence
The year I realized the meaning of beneficial knowledge
The year I realized The creator of heaven and earth is closer to each and every one of us than our imagination

Fuckhypocrite:
Assuming the bible and christianity are real, god created us but who created god?
Did he create himself and if so how?
Did somebody else create him and if so,does that mean that there really is more than one god but he's too egotistical to acknowledge this since he wants all attention on himself?
And who would have made god that made god?
Did the bing bang perhaps make god instead?
If the bing bang made god,is that a good enough thought/explanation to how the world was created,that would make both scients and religious people happy and this bringing upon peace between the two very different ways thinking?


Please i need logical answers to the question above!!!
Seun
Lalasticlala

First of all, the idea that Islam(the religion I can speak for) and science are conflicting is a misconception. We see science as a working model not as something that gives absolute truth. Science is just for physical things not for metaphysical things like the concept of God, morals. e.t.c .Science can't explain why raping or incest is bad. Scientists also believe in God. Even Isaac Newton believed in God .you can go and watch QURAN AND BIBLE IN THE LIGHT OF SCIENCE DEBATE ON YOUTUBE.

Fuckhypocrite:
Assuming the bible and christianity are real, god created us but who created god?
Did he create himself and if so how?
Did somebody else create him and if so,does that mean that there really is more than one god but he's too egotistical to acknowledge this since he wants all attention on himself?
And who would have made god that made god?
Did the bing bang perhaps make god instead?
If the bing bang made god,is that a good enough thought/explanation to how the world was created,that would make both scients and religious people happy and this bringing upon peace between the two very different ways thinking?


Please i need logical answers to the question above!!!
Seun
Lalasticlala

First of all, the idea that Islam(the religion I can speak for) and science are conflicting is a misconception. We see science as a working model not as something that gives absolute truth. Science is just for physical things not for metaphysical things like the concept of God, morals. e.t.c .Science can't explain why raping or incest is bad. you can go and watch QURAN AND BIBLE IN THE LIGHT OF SCIENCE DEBATE ON YOUTUBE

cococandy:
You have good points.

However, The purpose of this exercise is to also get the subjective interpretation of Muslims adherents. So, varying interpretations were welcome from the beginning. I wasn’t setting out to only understand what Allah and Muhammad teach but also how the followers have understood those teachings and how it affects their lives in those specific categories I listed.

There’s definitely a whole lot to unpack in understanding any religion but this thread is limited and specific in what it’s looking for.

Thanks

That's the importance of adhering to the teachings of Muhammad (peace be upon him) which is the hadith. For example the Quran says pray (hadith explains how to pray), the Quran says fast (hadith explains how to fast). The hadith is basically the explaination of the Quran, it's what puts the Quran in context and prevents subjective understanding. You can read the Quran yourself (go to quran.com).