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Theodora ,i thought you wasnted to become a presenter?

I think am beginning to like Frosbel!!!

You see this issue of trinity is what is scaring most non-christians away( esp. Muslims tired of their religion) as they dont see christianity as an option , coming from a background of strict monotheism.

At the end we should be very carefull what we ascribe to God as he is a very jealous being and can forgive any sin except ascribing partners with.

I did like to ask , were the jews expecting God himself or a Prophet.
Something of such importance as God the creator of all that exists coming to die on earth for the sins of his own creation by the hand of his own creations should have been emphasised and clearly understood and seriously anticipated by the custodians of the old testament (jews), but we all know they werent expecting the Almighty they were expecting a Prophet like unto Moses.

[quote author=frank3.16]Na waoo, religion... I am beginin to get sick of it all.

Infact, God, I didn't ask u to create me, we had no agreement b4 I was created. Did I wrong u in another world. All I know is that I jst saw mysel here in this very harsh world, now I am told that I must live a particularly way if not I will b thrown into burning hell, it makes no sense. Pls take me whereever I was in peace b4 I was created, u can have ur heaven, bt pls don't send me to hell. Abegooo, make una c meoooo, I didn't ask to b createdoooo ha. I have tried to repent bt its nt jst workin, nothin makes sense, and I am told I will b punisjd for not uinderstanding.[/quote]Exactly my thought , You should only get punished for breaching an agreement which you consciouly agreed to abide by.

Which agreement did we enter into with God when coming to the world to warant Eternal Hell.

Am sure many earthlings would have turned down the offer if we were consulted before our forced entry into this crazy world.

pDude: Mu che che che che che che!

Why dem dey reject the dedi body naw? Nor be their property? If to say him build big mansion for the village, na so dem go dey struggle for who go bury am.

Mu he he he he he! Igbo people sef.

You beginning to sound like calloti abi are you her husband?!!!!

pDude: Mu che che che che che che!

Why dem dey reject the dedi body naw? Nor be their property? If to say him build big mansion for the village, na so dem go dey struggle for who go bury am.

Mu he he he he he! Igbo people sef.

You beginning to sound like calloti abi are you her husband?!!!!

Mrs Calloti de Halloti dats what i have in mind .

If there is really a God and he actually wants us to worship him ,he should have designed a better system in which all human naturally recognize him even without being taught.

I am sure a good number atheist will readily convert if the existence of God can be proved beyond what is written in a book.

Also God should know better than to keep himself invisible without any physical prove or signature of his existence(am not refering to any of his creations as most religionist point to as prove) . As intelligent beings with high level of curiousity we tend to believe more in things we can see touch or experience first hand, thats not our fault, thats how we were created.
I dont blame the ancient men for worshipping the sun ,moon,cow ,tree, e.t.c as an explaination for the the unknown ,cos they prefer to hold on to something they can experience first hand, rather than an invisble being, like the Religionist talking and shouting at themselves in the name of prayer.

Also with regards to salvation - works + God's grace ,thats excactly what Jesus preached.
Except of-course Paul understood it more than Jesus himself.

Some of your facts are wrong expecially the purgatory aspect.

They eact point a finger , forgeting that the remaining 4 fingers point at them.

People help me ooooo, i heard another one today!!!

Someone was preaching today ans he said "Eniti o ba rope ohun gbon kole wo alijanna , mumu to gbo to gba loma wo alijanna".

Meaning , any body that tries using his wisdom on religious matters will not make heaven, but a "mumu" i.e someone that can not think for himself, will make heaven, because he will just hear and obey without question anything.

I was likely exactly !!! Religious folks are brain dead when it comes to Religion they switch it on when it comes to other matters.

Alternatively Iran should push their agenda to a point where they can produce nuclear weapon quickly if they need to, this willserve as deterant to any future israeli bullying, as they will be in a state of - mutually assured destruction, like The US and Russia.

Violence begets violence.

The solution to the problem of the mid-east is dialogue, where all stakeholders come together to trash out differences in truth equity and without bias( for israel as always).

Pray, why should israel keep nuclear weapons to defend itself as a last resort and Iran which is equally a soveiragn state can't.

Even if Iran makes a nuclear weapon today ,are they dumb enough to use it offensively without fear of full scale retaliation from US and her allies.

No country in the world has used nukes against another's population save the USA, ironically they are the ones policing the world, who says they wouldnt use it again. Infact if we were living in a fair and just world The USA today should have been banned from engaging in any nuclear related activity for what they did, rather they still keep to themselves a large stock pile of nukes.

In world of justice the USA shouldnt be the one pointing fingers.

Moreover IRAN is a signitary to the nuclear proliferation treaty and has occationally openned its facilities for inspection on the other hand Israel has arrogantly refused to come to terms with the treaty and does not allow any inspections.

By Yahawah , I ask you where is the fairness in this.

Also it is well known that Iran has in thepast called for a nuclear free middle-east ,but you see , israel is the main impediment to such a move.

They arrogantly hold on to nuclear weapons and then point fingers at Iran for wanting to develop nuclear faclities for peacefull purpose.

The solution to this impending problem is a nuclear free mid-east.

If you pray in your name wonders still happen. Trust me, just try it.[/quote].

So you mean like : In the name mighty Billyonaire I rebuke all the forces of Ignorance Marauding our people on NL, Amen in Billyonaire'sname we pray. Lol

@ Mac how do I add a poll, finding it hardto locate.

Please moderators how do I add a poll ,I can't find the relevant button.

Thoughts,opinions.

Reyginus: I will answer you.But first trash my question.

Even the christians Preach ; Cleaniness is next to Godliness.

KunleOshob: @Post
Docrines of Men base on Arabic traditions.

Christianity : Doctrines of men based on Western traditions.

@ Mr Dela, remember this verse

It is night and the meal has ended jesus lie prostrate on the ground in the garden of gethesane. He fervently prays, "father, if thou art willing ,let this cup pass from me, yet NOT MY WILL, BUT THINE, be done"

He was sweating drops of blood.
He obviously wasnt very willing and sort from God an alternative to what was coming

And I ask what if God answered his prayer.

MacDaddy01: Yaweh sent Jesus to kill himself.

Big Mac You are one funny man

MacDaddy01: Yaweh sent Jesus to kill himself.

Big Mac You are one funny man!!!!

[quote author=Area_boy]Well, first of all the so called multiverse is simply an idea and there is no evidence to confirm that. It originates from the logic of earth -> solar system -> galaxy -> universe -> multiverse? Sounds nice to think about and postulate different possibilities but we can only see 13.7 billion light years in all direction before we hit the opaque extremely hot plasma like region (which is actually remnants of the bang itself).

Now, look at it from another angle. What if we are here by chance and there is really no omniscient, benevolent, omnipotent being or entity to create all this? or our idea of a god is TOTALLY Flawed?

The whole idea of original sin is frankly appalling if you ask me. A so called all powerful god must know the beginning and the end, if so must also know that his creation will fall short of expectations and put in place measures to correct it (Any reasonable engineer will do this). Except this is what he/she/it wanted in the first place so he/she/it can punish and create more angels and demons (by your logic) at the same time. what's the goal here?
Again, he/she/it has a funny way of "answering" prayers and putting priorities straight. A hungry child in a war zone will pray endlessly with no response while someone else prays for promotion in the office and gets it? That's just plain wrong (you can say god knows best here, but if he* created us in his* image and likeness then we have become smarter than him* cos you and I know who we will answer first in that scenario). Well on the other hand we have to ask ourselves, which god is the right one? They cant all be correct right?


So then He sends his Son (who is by the way himself in another manifestation) to come and die for our sins so that he can forgive us of the original sin (and every subsequent sin) that was his fault to start with? Very twisted logic. That who ever believes he was bruised, tortured and murdered for our sins will be saved. Now lets back track here for a second and take a closer look. He came to die for our sins but he knew he will resurrect again after being killed, so what the hell is the point? I think we've all been had here . I'll die for a lot of simple things if I know I'll resurrect after three days lol. Such an easy task for a god to do don't you think?
what's up with all the sacrifice for goodness sake? cant he (or she or it) just wave his (or her or its) magic stick and we r back to normal?


Food for thought:
We are probably here all by ourselves and when we die, that's the end of it. No spirit realm, no soul, no heaven, no hell, no judgement, no 72 virgins. Lets make the best of this tiny speck of time we get to spend here. Enjoy every moment and be happy to be here while showing compassion, Loving, caring, and helping your fellow man/woman. Knowing that our death is the end of everything makes living here on earth worth a million times more.
Now I'm not here to convert anyone from their faith. I used to love preaching atheism any chance I had until I realised something. Religion gives a lot of people hope(although it blinds them), it makes them wake up the next morning and believing things will get better(although it limits their potentials), it gives comfort in times of bereavement (although its a lie we tell ourselves), it forces morality on people (although, anyone who needs religion to be moral is inherently evil). So let them have what they have and lets all live in peace


One love [/quote]I love this.

I believe his childhood was marred with not too God-like behaviors as such the elders sat down and deemed it heretical.

If God happens to exist, and judgement thus begins I REALLY HOPE WE GET TO APPEAL WHATEVER JUDGEMENT HE HANDS TO US.

Do you support a military attack on Iran. Give your reasons.

Haha begging for comments.

. Saudi Arabia warns don't drag us in this Iranian dudes are Psycho, M/east oil infrastructure destroyed so badly oil proce becomes $19000 per barrel . . . World economy collapses and lack of funds ends war . . . The fools are all left to pick their damaged self, more on the military strenght of Iran vs. Is not real check Aljazeera, one thing for sure some mentally disturb Christians in America are actively rooting for the Isrealis to attack Iran thinking (in their perverse minds) it will begin the Armageddon ( a combination of the two great wars, several civil wars and natural disasters of Tsunamic proportions)

Iran hits targets in Isreal and US bases in the ME, oil price jumps to $400 per barrel, Hezbollah attacks Isreal (is not real) more 3rd party elements enter into battle, Iran bombs oil facilities in the M/east oil price goes to $2000 per barrel, world economy begins to collapse, war breaks out btw nations of the M/East and the foolish Nigerian govt would try throwing its hat for the one side, the country gets polarized into two separate camps, Al qaeda enters battle, launches spectacular attacks against America, Iran troops enters Afghanistan to push NATO out, supports Taliban with massive weapons, opium freely enters Europe because the Iranian govt is pre-occupied with a war, W/Europe throws in its hat in the ring, Russia warns of World war, supplies the Iranian regime with more weapons, china warns of world collapse supplies Iran with long rage missles, N/ korea launches an attack on US bases. Iran govt substantial weakened begins massive support for terror gangs who launch attacks against Europe .

[quote author=vedaxcool]Isreal attacks Iran the following scenario could occur :

Within seconds a barrel of oil will be $200, Iran will commence a massive offensive first closing the straits of homutz, the US will launch a counter offensive and try to break the the Imapsse this leads to even more confrontations,

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diluminati: Many christians are even waiting for this war to start sef. Nor be waiting una dey find? end of the world? whats the 4cking need of praying? Hypocrites!! ah ah

Abi oooo‏ !!!‏