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143WaZoBia:
That man is reading lies.
He has never met any Awori man before. It amazes me how people can be ignorant and mischievous at the same time.
Beside Yoruba language does Awori have another language?

They think we hate Awori like they did to ika and ikwerre

Chai 100 republic go commot naija

Igboid:
If Yoruba fights a war in Nigeria today and lose. Then it wouldn't be hard to fan anti Yoruba agenda among Ijebus and Aworis in Lagos. You will just hand power over the already existent anti Yoruba unity groups three and dethrone all the currently pro Yoruba unity there.
Ijebu already have history of difficulty in accepting Yoruba unity in the past, so it wouldn't be a difficult job to sow such seeds there.
Egun is not even Yoruba to start with.

Lol
What language is this?
Are you confused?

BabaOneChance:
The emboldened sums up my argument. Both Wike and Amaechi have refused to identify as Igbos. Other notable south south leaders have either ignored or subtly refused to acknowledge the attachment. Why can't my people accept what they have and move on?

That's it
A people are who they say they are
Austrians speak German
Have German culture
Yet have their separate country

Rugaria:
It's the same obnoxious characters we battle everyday here for their desperate revisionism that are responsible for those inputs.
They simply log in there to write unsubstantiated trash..
Igbo is 15% of Nigeria!? These are desperate Revisionists..

Igbo is actually about 20%
While Yoruba is around 22%

gidgiddy:
According to Wikipedia, Nigeria has a population of 210 million people. But it puts the population of the main ethnic nationalities as:

Hausa - 30%

Yoruba - 15.5%

Igbo - 15.2%

Fulani - 6%

Kanuri - 2.4%

Tiv - 2.4%

Ijaw - 1.8%

Ibibio - 1.8%

Link please

Lol
So Wikipedia is correct now when it favours you

But when it doesn't it's fake

Rugaria:
Nobody is forcing them to join!
You are the one fronting that accusation.
There will be a referendum and they will choose the path they will take;
Whether they will stick with their kiths and kins or whether they will join the Jihadi Republic of Oduuwaristan! It's their choice really!
They can join their progressive neighbors to build a grand state or they can join some skull mining republic to continue where Nigeria stops!

Meanwhile, when are you going to give the Aworis and Eguns of Lagos state the chance to choose whether to stay alone in Lagos as a country, since the Lagos economy can compare favorably with that of other states in West Africa, ...or join you too in your emerging Républic? After all the Oba of Lagos has earned you to leave lagos alone..

Now they are your kith and kin right?
Didn't one of you insult ikwerre not long on nairaland?
Don't you insult ika everyday?

The connection between Yoruba and her "minorities" can never be existent between Igbo and hers
That's the truth

No need for staying alone
Lagos is for
Egun
Awori
Ijebu
Egba

So stfu

I'm egba

GidiCars:
Igbos were the ones that had it in mind to dominate nigeria from inception, only that they are not as smart as they think. The east is a conquered territory. Kiss the truth

Forgotten History Of Igbo Tribe And Northern Alliance.

Do you know that when Tafawa Balewa was Prime Minister of Nigeria:
1). Chief of Army Staff was from SE
2). Chief of Naval Staff was from SE
3). IG of Police was from SE
4). Chief of Defence Staff was from SE
5). Internal Affairs Minister SE
6). External Affairs Minister SE
7). Education Minister South SE
�. Senate President SE
9). Unilag VC from SE
10). University of Ibadan VC from SE

For your information, the North resisted a similar imposition at ABU, Zaria!

Still, there was dissatisfaction by SE, the officers from the region killed this same Balewa!!!!

Out of all the most senior officers in Nigeria, SE has 37, none was killed. 8 from the north, all of them were killed. 10 from the west, 2 were killed.

Then Ironsi imposed a unitary system of government on the country so that everything can belong to a region who snatched it!

We must know our history so that when we want to make corrections, we will not end up concealing the truth. This has nothing to do with tribalism but everything to do with the truth.....at times when lies litter the streets. There is a tendency to think those are truths and facts.

What follows are documented facts that can be cross-checked for authenticity!

Thou shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

Prof. Ben Nwabueze was the man who drafted the constitution that took away powers from regions and handed it to the central government because his brother Aguiyi Ironsi was the head of state then. Today, he is shouting restructuring that he helped to destroy. We won’t forget.

WHAT BIAFRANS WILL NEVER TELL YOU ABOUT THE REAL CAUSE OF THEIR WOES IN NIGERIA TODAY:
The Igbo man is known to enjoy blaming the Hausa Fulanis, Yorubas and indeed every other Nigerian tribe and Lord Luggard/Britain for their seeming claim of being in third class citizen status in Nigeria.

In their perpetual attempts to play the victim card, they recount the political events of Nigeria from 1914 to the present in a half-baked and highly selective manner which cleverly avoids the mention of the roles played by their elite who by all natural laws of judgment were actually responsible for the woes that befell not only the Igbo race but the entire Nigeria nation. The story told in the post above is one of such selective and distorted accounts of history which the average Igbo man is fond of narrating.

However, the national archives have the complete and unedited history of Nigeria regarding the political events beginning way back from even before 1914. I will therefore proceed to furnish my readers with the complete story for all to read and be endowed with enough facts so as to judge and act from an informed position.

Shortly after the 1914 Amalgamation of the Northern and Southern Protectorates, it started getting clear that the country was bound to fail as the amalgamation in question was done with colonial fiat without the consent and consensus of the different tribes which were over 300. This prompted the political leaders to start asking for de-amalgamation so as to forestall the future danger which the forced amalgamation portended.

To that end, Ahmadu Bello, speaking on behalf of the Northern protectorate in 1944 described the amalgamation as "The mistake of 1914 which if allowed to remain will ultimately lead to unstoppable bloodshed and a failed country".

Awolowo, speaking on behalf of the Yorubas and Western minorities, described Nigeria as a mere geographical expression not qualified to be called a country let alone a nation. Awolowo added that if the amalgamation could not be reversed, then Nigeria should be structured as a strictly federal state so as to enable each tribe enjoy autonomy this freedom from being dominated by any one single tribe.


But Nnamdi Azikiwe, speaking for the Igbos, denounced Awolowo and Ahmadu Bello, terming them ethnic champions. He accused them of nursing a sectional agenda against the unity of Nigeria, and he declared further that the Unity of Nigeria was non-negotiable.

After moving the motion for independece in 1953, Anthony Enahoro proposed that a secession clause should be incorporated into the future constitution of Nigeria so as to give legal backing for any tribe to peacefully exit the forced union if it feels marginalized in future. According to Enahoro, such provision in our constitution would instill in all Nigeria's future leaders the fear of the consequences of misgovernance.

But Azikiwe, speaking on behalf of Igbos, rose against him in the parliament and labelled him an agent of disunity, and enemy of Nigeria. At a later date, Awolowo too made a case for secession clause, but Azikiwe again resisted him and instigated the colonial authorities to threaten him and Enahoro with charges of treasonable felony if they didn't stop proposing secession clause for the future constitution.

While Azikiwe did all these, Igbos cheered and urged him on because they felt the future Nigeria was theirs to dominate and lord it over every other tribes.

Before Independence, Tafawa Balewa too had in a public speech described Nigeria as a British experiment and Nigeria's unity as a British intention which Nigerians themselves don't believe in. But Azikiwe kicked and demonized him too. Had Azikiwe co-operated with Enahoro, Awolowo, Ahmadu Bello and Tafawa Balewa about the secession clause, Nigeria perhaps would not have been this misgoverned.

For those in doubt, here is a link of one of the numerous instances in which Nnamdi Azikiwe fought against the secession clause proposal for the future Nigeria constitution.

It should be noted that there were many Igbo members of the parliament in which Azikiwe fought against Awolowo's secession clause proposal in the link above, but not a single one of them rose against Azikiwe or condemned him.

Igbos initially never wanted to hear anything like secession in Nigeria because they so much believed, though falsely, that they were the most educated tribe. (The first Nigerian tribe to produce a university graduate is the Binis). As an evidence of Igbo domination agenda hence their initial resistance to the idea of secession; here are some quotes:

- "From all indications, the god of us Igbos have destined us to rule the whole of Africa"..... Nnamdi Azikiwe (1945).

- "It is getting clearer each day that Igbo domination of Nigeria is just a question of time"... Oscar Onyeamma. (1949). Anascopeterson: As at 1900, the whole of the present Benue State, Kogi East Senatorial District and some southern parts of Taraba State called Munchi District back then; were all in the Southern Protectorate. Whoever doubts this should consult MacMillan Atlas for secondary schools in Nigeria.

With that situation the South had a higher population than the North hence always had an upper hand in any democratic bargain.

But as at the early fifties when the regions were being created, common sense dictated clearly that these areas should fall in the future Eastern Region. But against common sense, the colonial masters decided to gerrymander them into the Northern Region. While they did that, Azikiwe who was supposed to be in Enugu fighting against it as the leader of the East, was far away in Ibadan struggling with Awolowo to rule the Western Region and also playing the spoiler role against Awolowo's attempts to have Kwara and present Kogi Yorubas carved into the Western Region from the North which was already too large by landmass.

While he abandoned his burning house and was far away in Ibadan struggling against Awolowo for his own (Awolowo's) region, Igbos saw absolutely nothing wrong with that. Rather they applauded him as a nationalist. A nationalist whose house was burning yet busy chasing rats in a faraway land.


When opinions became unanimous that Lord Luggard and his government must be forced out of Nigeria and indeed the whole of Africa, it was still the Igbos that frustrated the attempts. Here is how:
In 1948, Anthony Enahoro organized an anti-colonization symposium in Lagos for which Azikiwe and some other Igbos had agreed to deliver the keynote address. But when the D-day came, Azikiwe was nowhere to be found as he deliberately disappeared into thin air for fear of being arrested and dealt with by Lord Luggard.

Anthony Enahoro then quickly replaced Azikiwe with another person who did the job impromptu but perfectly well as he lambasted and lampooned Lord Luggard and the British Government. However, the British soldiers invaded the symposium venue, arrested the speaker and Enahoro, and jailed them for treasonable felony. Ironically, the next day Azikiwe came out of hiding and granted a radio interview in which he accused Enahoro and the other organizers of suffering from youthful exuberance.

On regaining his freedom a few weeks later and being told of Azikiwe's radio interview, Enahoro resigned from his post as Editor of Azikiwe's newspaper - The West African Pilot.

Then he wrote a book titled "Nnamdi Azikiwe: Sinner or Saint". After launching the book, Enahoro left Azikiwe's party - the NCNC, and moved over to Awolowo's Action Group.
The first military coup in Nigeria was carried out by the majority of Igbo army officers. That was the coup that truncated democracy just six years post Independence and led to a succession of coups which put the country on the reverse gear for 33 years.

Through that first coup, those Igbo army officers who accused the politicians and government of the day of monumental corruption, killed the political leaders of the Northern, Western and Midwestern Regions but allowed all Igbo political figures to escape by tipping them off prior to the D-Day.

In addition to the killing of political figures, they also killed a total of 27 innocent high ranking military officers from every region except their Eastern Region.

In the end an Igbo man called Aguiyi Ironsi, who was supposed to have been killed alongside other military officers, ended up becoming the new military ruler of Nigeria. Rather than immediately arrest and punish the coup plotters, he kept them in detention where they were treated as heroes. This was actually what sowed the seed for the eventual Biafra War.

On the 23rd of February 1966 (i.e. a month and 8 days after the first coup popularly but wrongly known as Nzeogwu coup, an Ijaw born Army officer called Isaac Adaka Boro who hailed from Kaima town of present Bayelsa State, declared the secession of the Niger Delta Republic in an attempt to free his Ijaw people from the monumental marginalization they had been suffering under Igbos in the old Eastern Region.

But Aguiyi Ironsi immediately ordered Colonel Odumegwu Ojukwu to arrest him and hand him over to the military high command under him in Lagos. Ojukwu went all out against Isaac Adaka Boro with federal military might and within 12 fighting days killed 150 Isaac Boro's soldiers, arrested him, stripped him naked, and had him driven to Lagos and handed to Ironsi who immediately charged him to court and within two months secured against him a conviction of a treasonable felony for which he was sentenced to death by hanging fixed for December that year by the Supreme Court. His 'crime' was that he declared the secession of the Niger Delta Republic from Nigeria.

Meanwhile, the Igbo coupists who shed innocent blood of other tribes and even sprayed bullets into the bellies of the pregnant wives of Ahmadu Bello and Brigadier Shodeinde were not charged to court or arraigned before any military tribunal.

Isaac Adaka Boro was in detention waiting for December to come for him to join his ancestors. But God so kind, a revenge coup happened on July 29 by Northern soldiers and Ironsi was overthrown and killed. Gowon took over and released Isaac Adaka Boro unconditionally, reinstated him into the Army with his previous rank.

Then on May 30, 1967, Ojukwu too declared the secession of Biafra Republic from Nigeria and without consulting or apologizing to Isaac Boro, drew a Biafra map which included the very areas that made up Isaac Adaka Boro's earlier declared the Niger Delta Republic for which he fought against him and killed his soldiers.

Seeing such a level of arrogance in Ojukwu, Isaac Boro asked Gowon to provide arms for him to crush Biafra by fighting on the Nigerian side in vengeance for Ojukwu's frustration of his own secession declaration 15 months earlier.

Isaac Boro, as an Ijaw man conversant with the waterways, led the Nigeria Army through the coastal areas into Igboland to finish off thousands of Ojukwu's soldiers thus leading to the crushing defeat of Biafra. But today, Igbos accuse Ijaws of betraying them in the war. But from the facts as above, who really betrayed the other in all honesty? Be the judge.

Why Gowon fought against Ojukwu's declaration of Biafra was as follows:

After Ironsi and Ojukwu successfully crushed Isaac Boro's Niger Delta Republic declaration, Ironsi immediately proceeded to promulgate the Anti-secession Decree which made the mere mention of secession from Nigeria punishable with death by hanging. Ojukwu openly supported and endorsed the decree despite the disapproval of it by the general public. So when Ojukwu later declared Biafra secession, he was reminded of the Anti-secession Decree made by him and his brother Ironsi.

Deadly Truth: Igbos frequently reference Aburi Accord to create the impression that the rest of Nigerian tribes don't honour agreements. This is a very dishonest narrative from Igbos.
First and foremost Aburi Accord was organized by soldiers and unelected civil servants who should not participate in political exercises like making laws due to the civil service anonymity principle.

Secondly, those civil servants and military men in attendance were not elected by their federal constituencies to the Aburi summit. In the philosophy of democracy, the only universally acceptable way of making laws is through duly elected representatives of the people. But in going to Aburi the peoples' representatives duly elected in the 1965 elections were all sidelined for soldiers to hijack the process. Where on earth do soldiers make laws for the people? Rather, the civilian populace makes laws that guide the military. Aburi Accord, therefore, had no seal of the people's sovereignty hence it was an illegality that shouldn't have been allowed to stand.

Thirdly, in 1957, Nigerians from all federal constituencies democratically elected representatives whom they sponsored to London, paid their flight tickets and hotel accommodation for the Independence constitutional conference. Those representatives all resolved and agreed on federalism marked by regional autonomy and resource control in the Independence Constitution which they brought back home and everyone accepted it.

In that constitution, Nigerians all agreed that on no account shall the military take-over power. It was also clearly stated in it that amendments to it could be done by only democratically elected representatives.

That constitution was the first-ever agreement between all Nigerians. On the day of his inauguration as the Army GoC, Aguiyi Ironsi stood before the whole world and with his own mouth swore to protect and defend that sovereign Independence constitution regardless of the circumstances that may later arise.

But just six years after he manufactured an excuse to clinch power against the clear provisions of that constitution we all agreed to, unilaterally began to amend its provisions with his very offensive Decrees. All these ended up dismantling federalism and resource control therein, and ultimately subverted that constitution we all painstakingly sacrificed to draft.

That was the height of Irresponsibility and the dishonoring of sacred agreement. That was how Igbos breached the first agreement, all Nigerians, ever all mutually consented to, thus laying the foundation for violation of future agreements.


So Aburi Accord was only treated exactly the same way Igbos treated the Independence constitution agreement.

open a thread for this

Or should I help you?

OROSUNBOLB:
Which lie ,please ! Is Share not Yoruba land ? Yoruba boundaries to the north start from Jebba and that's a fact. Who do you think owns Lokoja,the capital of Kogi state ? Lokoja is equally Yoruba land,ogbeni ! You need to understand that there is a clear distinction between the South west and Yoruba land.

There are indigenous Yoruba people in all the six south western states and including kwara,Kogi,Niger and Delta state ! Yoruba land extends even beyond the shore of Nigeria and anywhere you find the indigenous Yoruba people is effectively, a Yoruba land.

You may want to see the map of Old Oyo empire for clarifications.

The map doesn't put all our land in it

I'm Yoruba
You misunderstood me

Let them be!




And I hope Kwara and kogi Yorubaland are not part of your "North"?

Ofodirinwa:
no

Kwara and kogi Yoruba are not in the map

Rugaria:
You see the problem with you guys!?
Your treacherous penchant for speaking from both sides of your mouth!

The same relationship you want to have with your Yoruba sub-groups is the same relationship we want to have with our Igbo subgroups!
Aworis and Eguns are to you the same thing Ikwerres, Ekpeyes, ndonis etc are to us!
We don't come from the east to tell you that Aworis or Eguns are not Yorubas. Neither do we tell you that Lagos is not Yoruba!

So you shouldn't be caught pokenosing in our brotherly squabbles in the east! You lot want to show us the borders between us and the Ikwerres and others.
But to us they're a subgroup of Igbos the same way Aworis are a subgroup of Yorubas! Irrespective of what anyone says...

You understand how it works now?

They (the "Igbo" minorities) don't want to be in your biafra
Let them be


As far as your guys keep insulting Yoruba we will have to continue the status quo

Eastlink:
You are right. Awori and Ijebu’s are Yoruba’s. Egun is a wide mark and fits the term minority. Egun’s fate is with Yorubaland unless everyone in Africa goes mad and begin to redraw the Berlin map which will see Egun join Dahomey republic while Anagos in Benin/Togo joins Oduduwa. But for the time being, everyone is focused in their country affair. Nigerians are discussing their ethic delineation and trying to review rigid Constitutions, the same might be happening in Benin right now.

So Egun and Awori are settled in a West what remains is Kwara and Kabba.

They (egun) are not complaining
They have mixed with us and are happy
Same as the popo and sabe are

You're the most informed and wise ipob I've seen on nairaland


We just need restructuring into regionalism

BabaOneChance:
Both Awori and Egun people are still in the Southwest (Ogun and Lagos) and they're Yoruba. Southwest and Yoruba emboldened for emphasis. And, by the way, have you seen them complain of forceful amalgamation? No.

Nobody stops you from traveling from on part of the 5 Southeastern states to another as you wish. But don't you smell hypocrisy when you keep dragging south south, who don't want to identify with you, and still complain that Nigeria has refused to give you Biafra?

I'm partly Igbo too but I have to say the truth.

I'm sure that they don't know that Egba has land in Lagos state
Yes
Abule egba is for Egba
I am Egba

And egun is not yoruba but they are related to us
An average egun will tell you that he is yoruba

Rugaria:
Like I always say, "We will listen to you guys when you allow Aworis and Eguns to be in their lagos state as you face your ore and Ogbomosho"

Ignorance
We are all Yoruba
I am Egba and abule egba and environs belong to us
Only egun are not yoruba
Even ijebu has a lot of land in Lagos state

You have no choice


Una no get land

BKayy:
Take a look at Yoruba land, the entire ilorin from share is included in the map.
Chisos

Lie

SEGLIZ:
we commission everything in this country.

we commission sooootey, we dey commission wheelbarrow.

we commission sooootey we dey commission pen, books and school bag for pupils.

the way this idiot forming demi gods come out with two fingers in the air, expecting citizen to dance and celebrate them like say na their money dey pain me.

I swear the thing dey vex me

But what can we say

survivor10:
Anywhere they speak Yoruba language or Yorubaoid languages even in far away Benin republic is Yoruba, same with Fulani, Hausa etc.

But when people speak Igbo or igboid language, they are not Igbo except they are in south east mapped out by one of the military dictators .

I tell you "One Nigeria" and Buharist, evil can't stand Light. Just a matter of time, Igbos will be free

It's all because majority of the people involved deny being Igbo
No conspiracy here

esnbrutality:
But on another thread you talked about itsekiri being a yoruboid (whatever that means) and as such they are Yoruba.

But if its IGBO it must undergo scrutiny??

Let me tell you something you guys dont understand....the resentment people hold against you ..in the present region you love just because of "oyel" will baffle you.

Just understand that twisting narratives and vile propaganda wont help you this time...

ko le werk!!

I never said that they are Yoruba
I said they are Yoruboid

The people say they are not Igbo
Let them be

Resentment. Against me? Oyel?
Why so cryptic?

I say the truth
The truth always prevails

I have no ill against you
In fact I love Igbo
My favourite aunt in law is Delta Igbo

Idiko1:
Ironsi abolished regionalism yet appointed regional military governors. Yoruba peeps have bent of using this crap to justify their lining Fulani, Hausa and Kanuri to prosecute a war against Ndigbo and Biafrans. Decree #34 was for the unification of civil servants in Nigeria. The Emirs taught it took away the power of native authority from them and organized unrest in northern region.

It seems you don't know what "powers" mean
Now read that write up again

esnbrutality:
So why are you against IGBO and their brethren like us in Akwa ibom??

IS THERE SOMETHING ENTERNALLY WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE??

You can be brothers with Benin Republic but IGBOs cant with people in the ND Region??

Una never see anything ...just wait and watch.

I am not against anything like that

I am against coercion of "minorities" into your biafra

esnbrutality:
But on another thread you talked about itsekiri being a yoruboid (whatever that means) and as such they are Yoruba.

But if its IGBO it must undergo scrutiny??

Let me tell you something you guys dont understand....the resentment people hold against you ..in the present region you love just because of "oyel" will baffle you.

Just understand that twisting narratives and vile propaganda wont help you this time...

ko le werk!!

I never said that they are Yoruba
I said they are Yoruboid

The people say they are not Igbo
Let them be

Resentment. Against me? Oyel?
Why so cryptic?

I say the truth
The truth always prevails

I have no ill against you
In fact I love Igbo
My favourite aunt in law is Delta Igbo

IJOBA11:
TSEEEEEW

What language is this?

IJOBA11:
THIS ABDUL-FULANI AGAIN

I didn't lie now

OBALOLA55

IJOBA11:
NA YOU I SUPPOSE ASK YOU WEDA YOU DON CHOP TODAY, AND WHO IS OBALOLA55

You are too similar to be different
You both use all caps
You both repeat a number in your monikers i.e OBALOLA55 IJOBA11
You both use Yoruba monikers and say you are Igbo
You both understand Yoruba well

Busted

Twisted facts

Itsekiri are Yoruboid not Yoruba

So they choose what they want
They can stay anywhere and progress

We are not IPOB

No coercion here

Yoruba in Benin republic and Togo are doing well

IJOBA11:
OLOBE

Obe bawo?
Sh'o ti jeun leni sha?

Oruke dabi OBALOLA55

IJOBA11:
YOU DON’T KNOW ANYTHING

Ohh

Tell me what you know

I dey Laff you

IGBOSON1:
Was Niger river once called Kwora?

It's a corruption of Kwara
A Nupe word for the River Niger

esnbrutality:
Buhari said that Yoruba and Benin Republic are Cousins ...Is it true??

Answer me please...

We are brothers
Benin republic south are mostly Yoruba and Find

Do your research