Rugaria:


Like I always say, "We will listen to you guys when you allow Aworis and Eguns to be in their lagos state as you face your ore and Ogbomosho"

@helinus...

its pitiful and disgusting exchanging banters with you.

Truly disgusting.....spits!

Monogamy:


As usual, leaving the message and blaming others...

So you people are afraid of SS and still afraid of the guy helinus?

Monogamy:


Any story that does not suit your narration, you people must find a way of twisting same story.

The Naptu thread was about how South South came to be. It wasn't about whether the creation was right or wrong

Rugaria:


Like I always say, "We will listen to you guys when you allow Aworis and Eguns to be in their lagos state as you face your ore and Ogbomosho"

BuyAndSellStuff:
I have observed that some bigots lace their tribalism with 'maturity' on this forum.

They are hardcore tribalists but always appear diplomatic & mature on the outside so you don't call them out. They put distorted or misquoted 'facts' out in public & wait patiently for their much bolder colleagues to carry on their evil work.

They never 'fact-check' against the government despite its numerous gaffes but they are usually quick to proffer same against their perceived 'enemies'.


They are dangerous.

BabaOneChance:

Both Awori and Egun people are still in the Southwest (Ogun and Lagos) and they're Yoruba. Southwest and Yoruba emboldened for emphasis. And, by the way, have you seen them complain of forceful amalgamation? No.

Nobody stops you from traveling from on part of the 5 Southeastern states to another as you wish. But don't you smell hypocrisy when you keep dragging south south, who don't want to identify with you, and still complain that Nigeria has refused to give you Biafra?

I'm partly Igbo too but I have to say the truth.

Rugaria:


Like I always say, "We will listen to you guys when you allow Aworis and Eguns to be in their lagos state as you face your ore and Ogbomosho"

esnbrutality:
@helinus...

its pitiful and disgusting exchanging banters with you.

Truly disgusting.....spits!

BuyAndSellStuff:
I have observed that some bigots lace their tribalism with 'maturity' on this forum.

They are hardcore tribalists but always appear diplomatic & mature on the outside so you don't call them out. They put distorted or misquoted 'facts' out in public & wait patiently for their much bolder colleagues to carry on their evil work.

They never 'fact-check' against the government despite its numerous gaffes but they are usually quick to proffer same against their perceived 'enemies'.


They are dangerous.

BabaOneChance:

Both Awori and Egun people are still in the Southwest (Ogun and Lagos) and they're Yoruba. Southwest and Yoruba emboldened for emphasis. And, by the way, have you seen them complain of forceful amalgamation? No.

Nobody stops you from traveling from on part of the 5 Southeastern states to another as you wish. But don't you smell hypocrisy when you keep dragging south south, who don't want to identify with you, and still complain that Nigeria has refused to give you Biafra?

I'm partly Igbo too but I have to say the truth.

theTranslator:

Ignorance
We are all Yoruba
I am Egba and abule egba and environs belong to us
Only egun are not yoruba
Even ijebu has a lot of land in Lagos state

Eastlink:
How south-south came to be is not my talking point. I followed his article closely. I felt he should have gone ahead to give us more historical perspective of the creation from the COR agitation. Those who wanted out and those who didn't want to join. The COR and Mid-West make up the present South-South by Abacha.

Monogamy:


@ emboldened, you could have added your own facts with your rejoinder.. That op only create threads with facts, if he doesn't have it, you should not expect him to post it.

Do you have further detail to shed on that?

Eastlink:
That would be in another thread with documents and other research to add to it.

Eastlink:
You are right. Awori and Ijebu’s are Yoruba’s. Egun is a wide mark and fits the term minority. Egun’s fate is with Yorubaland unless everyone in Africa goes mad and begin to redraw the Berlin map which will see Egun join Dahomey republic while Anagos in Benin/Togo joins Oduduwa. But for the time being, everyone is focused in their country affair. Nigerians are discussing their ethic delineation and trying to review rigid Constitutions, the same might be happening in Benin right now.

So Egun and Awori are settled in a West what remains is Kwara and Kabba.

theTranslator:

Ignorance
We are all Yoruba
I am Egba and abule egba and environs belong to us
Only egun are not yoruba
Even ijebu has a lot of land in Lagos state

Monogamy:


Then do that and invite all to debate on it...

Eastlink:
Ok, I’ll keep time for that. Let me add your your moniker to the first edit so that I can easily copy it to the future thread.

Rugaria:


You see the problem with you guys!?
Your treacherous penchant for speaking from both sides of your mouth!

The same relationship you want to have with your Yoruba sub-groups is the same relationship we want to have with our Igbo subgroups!
Aworis and Eguns are to you the same thing Ikwerres, Ekpeyes, ndonis etc are to us!
We don't come from the east to tell you that Aworis or Eguns are not Yorubas. Neither do we tell you that Lagos is not Yoruba!

So you shouldn't be caught pokenosing in our brotherly squabbles in the east! You lot want to show us the borders between us and the Ikwerres and others.
But to us they're a subgroup of Igbos the same way Aworis are a subgroup of Yorubas! Irrespective of what anyone says...

You understand how it works now?

strykr:




I don't get. Did you hit your head as a kid, or you're just deficient at reading and understand ? The OP is from rivers state in the south south, and is talking of how him and his people wish to join his brothers in the south east. What the heck are you rambling about? Its pathetic how much dumb people this nation produces nowadays.

theTranslator:

They (the "Igbo" minorities) don't want to be in your biafra
Let them be


As far as your guys keep insulting Yoruba we will have to continue the status quo

Rugaria:


Nobody is forcing them to join!
You are the one fronting that accusation.
There will be a referendum and they will choose the path they will take;
Whether they will stick with their kiths and kins or whether they will join the Jihadi Republic of Oduuwaristan! It's their choice really!
They can join their progressive neighbors to build a grand state or they can join some skull mining republic to continue where Nigeria stops!

Meanwhile, when are you going to give the Aworis and Eguns of Lagos state the chance to choose whether to stay alone in Lagos as a country, since the Lagos economy can compare favorably with that of other states in West Africa, ...or join you too in your emerging Républic? After all the Oba of Lagos has earned you to leave lagos alone..

theTranslator:

They (the "Igbo" minorities) don't want to be in your biafra
Let them be


As far as your guys keep insulting Yoruba we will have to continue the status quo

Igboid:
19. “The people of Ahoada, a Division of which a pan runs down to meet Port Harcourt, appear at one time to have favoured the idea of a Rivers state, but have changed their views and before us expressed themselves as strongly against it. Comparatively few of them live in the low-lying swampy country of the coastal strip and they have voted for the NCNC consistently, they said themselves that a main factor in their change of front had been the inclusion if the Western Ijaws in the proposed state. So long, they said, as the Rivers state was to consist of the River Province only, the Ibos would have been the most numerous tribe within it: but the inclusion of the Western Ijaw Division put them at a numerical disadvantage beside the Ijaws and they therefore preferred to stay out. Whether or not this was a line of reasoning that really had a wide appeal, the fact remain that before us they were opposed to the idea of the state. This is not surprising because their problems are different from those of the ijaws.”

20. “To include within a River state Ahoada and Port Harcourt, would, we believe, create a problem as acute as that with which we were asked to deal at present and and would be sharply resented by the Ibos of the central plateau.”

BabaOneChance:

The emboldened sums up my argument. Both Wike and Amaechi have refused to identify as Igbos. Other notable south south leaders have either ignored or subtly refused to acknowledge the attachment. Why can't my people accept what they have and move on?

Rugaria:


Like I always say, "We will listen to you guys when you allow Aworis and Eguns to be in their lagos state as you face your ore and Ogbomosho"

Igboid:
If Yoruba fights a war in Nigeria today and lose. Then it wouldn't be hard to fan anti Yoruba agenda among Ijebus and Aworis in Lagos. You will just hand power over the already existent anti Yoruba unity groups three and dethrone all the currently pro Yoruba unity there.
Ijebu already have history of difficulty in accepting Yoruba unity in the past, so it wouldn't be a difficult job to sow such seeds there.
Egun is not even Yoruba to start with.

theTranslator:

Ignorance
We are all Yoruba
I am Egba and abule egba and environs belong to us
Only egun are not yoruba
Even ijebu has a lot of land in Lagos state

143WaZoBia:

Have ever met an Awori man before? Do you know what language they speak?
Do you know that the likes of MC Oluomo is Awori?

Monogamy:


As usual, ignoring the message while firing on the messenger... Why not present your own facts? For how long would you guys continue with this blame game whenever facts are presented to you?

Funnily , your narrations are only suitable to your people only not to the neutral observers