₦airaland Forum

queensmith:
^^^ I googles ARIS and didnt find anything about them- where is the base?

You can not find ARIS in Google or anywhere but ARIS exists, Africa is a complex continent, the presence of tribalism and the absence of nationalism makes it imperative that whoever fights the enemy would fight like the enemy.

I wonder has Nigerians ever asked themselves why the CIA worked so hard to assassinate Abacha, even though he has his vice he took the advice of patriotic economists and the rate of US dollar to naira remained 22 naira to 1 dollar, Nigeria was hoarded with sanctions during his regime but we never felt better and economy was stable.How are we feeling now with no sanctions and democracy ?

After Abacha's death and the Olusegun Obasanjo came in as the democratic elected president the naira went from 21.8 per dollar to 145 per dollar in less than 18 months.
Has anybody ever asked questions while the currency was being devalued ?
Ask yourself are you even aware that the currency was devalued ?
If you were asked before now would you not nonchalantly say "Our money was falling" ?
How come Obasanjo immediately started "Privatisation" of public utilities and how many of those utilities were owned by Nigerians afterwards ?
Did the service that already privatised utilities like Power(electricity),Telecommunications (NITEL) and Seaports get any better while at the same time the cost of using such utilities gets higher thereby taking the means out of the ordinary masses ?

When we talk about refineries it a simply technology, i read the Biafrans refined their own oil during the war, they even built a mobile refinery that can be disassembled and assembled, why was it that we our refineries can't function after billions of dollars awarded to foreign companies to rebuild it ?

How many times has Billions been awarded to the same American Company to Drain the River Niger and has it been done and if it hasn't who has talked about it ?

I don't want to provide answers to these questions but if any of you take your time to read each one and try to research and answer it for yourselves it would give me a great joy.

cap28:
Thoth, is this excerpt from a govt report?

It is an ARIS Report , that may be all i can say about the source, which government(if there is one) you can infer by your intuition. ARIS is an intelligence service set up for the liberation of "concerned" nations and it is only a part of a bigger machine.
witnessing the ignorance on these threads I am pushed to share a piece of what passes through me for the sake of people who might want to enlighten themselves.

This is the sort of thing that keeps our leaders DIFFERENT from the likes of Qaddafi.

[b]After having their economy in disarray due to their own mismanagement, it is not surprising that they IMF and World Bank will be persuading the Nigerian Central Bank to further devalue its currency so that those nations concerned even though they have totally mismanaged their own economy should still be enjoying the stronger purchasing power due to exchange rate advantage while the ordinary Nigerian man's labour continues to be bought for less than a penny.
It has been agreed that further currency devaluation was one of the compromises that Goodluck Jonathan accepted on his visit to the white house on his quest for Power, Nevertheless the first incursion of such change came at a very bad timing , It is important that we understand that the IMF request to further devalue the economy was rejected not because it is unreasonable or that they were concerned for the destructive effects of such policy but that it would be a disadvantage for the incumbent government which hopes to retain power on the coming election, they know too well that implementing such policy will take the masses support away from them, so it becomes a question of the right time not the right purpose because for all we know the policy is already implemented, [/b]

ARIS-EI Dept Report#430221 Date: Feb,03,2011.

There are several options available to the administration to carry out the IMF request(currency devaluation) but we would look at the two main ways that is the norm in Africa, first, it can be blatantly dropped on the masses as usual considering the ordinary citizen has no say whatsoever in the running of the supposedly democratic nation and that 95% of the population are ignorant of the national economics altogether or a subtle and less conspicuous implementation may be chosen where the currency is being devalued gradually and the ignorant masses will simply accept it as a norm(see, EI Report#430104) and it will simply go as “ Our currency is falling” which is the usual way the masses see it in such cases. which ever method they wish to choose it would still have the same catastrophic outcome one more subtle than the other,

ARIS-EI Dept Report#430283 Date:April,26,2011.

This is the sort of thing that keeps our leaders DIFFERENT from the likes of Qaddafi.

[b]After having their economy in disarray due to their own mismanagement, it is not surprising that they IMF and World Bank will be persuading the Nigerian Central Bank to further devalue its currency so that those nations concerned even though they have totally mismanaged their own economy should still be enjoying the stronger purchasing power due to exchange rate advantage while the ordinary Nigerian man's labour continues to be bought for less than a penny.
It has been agreed that further currency devaluation was one of the compromises that Goodluck Jonathan accepted on his visit to the white house on his quest for Power, Nevertheless the first incursion of such change came at a very bad timing , It is important that we understand that the IMF request to further devalue the economy was rejected not because it is unreasonable or that they were concerned for the destructive effects of such policy but that it would be a disadvantage for the incumbent government which hopes to retain power on the coming election, they know too well that implementing such policy will take the masses support away from them, so it becomes a question of the right time not the right purpose because for all we know the policy is already implemented, [/b]

ARIS-EI Dept Report#430221 Date: Feb,03,2011.

There are several options available to the administration to carry out the IMF request(currency devaluation) but we would look at the two main ways that is the norm in Africa, first, it can be blatantly dropped on the masses as usual considering the ordinary citizen has no say whatsoever in the running of the supposedly democratic nation and that 95% of the population are ignorant of the national economics altogether or a subtle and less conspicuous implementation may be chosen where the currency is being devalued gradually and the ignorant masses will simply accept it as a norm(see, EI Report#430104) and it will simply go as “ Our currency is falling” which is the usual way the masses see it in such cases. which ever method they wish to choose it would still have the same catastrophic outcome one more subtle than the other,

ARIS-EI Dept Report#430283 Date:April,26,2011.

This is the sort of thing that keeps our leaders DIFFERENT from the likes of Qaddafi.

[b]After having their economy in disarray due to their own mismanagement, it is not surprising that they IMF and World Bank will be persuading the Nigerian Central Bank to further devalue its currency so that those nations concerned even though they have totally mismanaged their own economy should still be enjoying the stronger purchasing power due to exchange rate advantage while the ordinary Nigerian man's labour continues to be bought for less than a penny.
It has been agreed that further currency devaluation was one of the compromises that Goodluck Jonathan accepted on his visit to the white house on his quest for Power, Nevertheless the first incursion of such change came at a very bad timing , It is important that we understand that the IMF request to further devalue the economy was rejected not because it is unreasonable or that they were concerned for the destructive effects of such policy but that it would be a disadvantage for the incumbent government which hopes to retain power on the coming election, they know too well that implementing such policy will take the masses support away from them, so it becomes a question of the right time not the right purpose because for all we know the policy is already implemented, [/b]

ARIS-EI Dept Report#430221 Date: Feb,03,2011.

There are several options available to the administration to carry out the IMF request(currency devaluation) but we would look at the two main ways that is the norm in Africa, first, it can be blatantly dropped on the masses as usual considering the ordinary citizen has no say whatsoever in the running of the supposedly democratic nation and that 95% of the population are ignorant of the national economics altogether or a subtle and less conspicuous implementation may be chosen where the currency is being devalued gradually and the ignorant masses will simply accept it as a norm(see, EI Report#430104) and it will simply go as “ Our currency is falling” which is the usual way the masses see it in such cases. which ever method they wish to choose it would still have the same catastrophic outcome one more subtle than the other,

ARIS-EI Dept Report#430283 Date:April,26,2011.

This is the sort of thing that keeps our leaders DIFFERENT from the likes of Qaddafi.

[b]After having their economy in disarray due to their own mismanagement, it is not surprising that they IMF and World Bank will be persuading the Nigerian Central Bank to further devalue its currency so that those nations concerned even though they have totally mismanaged their own economy should still be enjoying the stronger purchasing power due to exchange rate advantage while the ordinary Nigerian man's labour continues to be bought for less than a penny.
It has been agreed that further currency devaluation was one of the compromises that Goodluck Jonathan accepted on his visit to the white house on his quest for Power, Nevertheless the first incursion of such change came at a very bad timing , It is important that we understand that the IMF request to further devalue the economy was rejected not because it is unreasonable or that they were concerned for the destructive effects of such policy but that it would be a disadvantage for the incumbent government which hopes to retain power on the coming election, they know too well that implementing such policy will take the masses support away from them, so it becomes a question of the right time not the right purpose because for all we know the policy is already implemented, [/b]

ARIS-EI Dept Report#430221 Date: Feb,03,2011.

There are several options available to the administration to carry out the IMF request(currency devaluation) but we would look at the two main ways that is the norm in Africa, first, it can be blatantly dropped on the masses as usual considering the ordinary citizen has no say whatsoever in the running of the supposedly democratic nation and that 95% of the population are ignorant of the national economics altogether or a subtle and less conspicuous implementation may be chosen where the currency is being devalued gradually and the ignorant masses will simply accept it as a norm(see, EI Report#430104) and it will simply go as “ Our currency is falling” which is the usual way the masses see it in such cases. which ever method they wish to choose it would still have the same catastrophic outcome one more subtle than the other,

ARIS-EI Dept Report#430283 Date:April,26,2011.

This is the sort of thing that keeps our leaders DIFFERENT from the likes of Qaddafi.

[b]After having their economy in disarray due to their own mismanagement, it is not surprising that they IMF and World Bank will be persuading the Nigerian Central Bank to further devalue its currency so that those nations concerned even though they have totally mismanaged their own economy should still be enjoying the stronger purchasing power due to exchange rate advantage while the ordinary Nigerian man's labour continues to be bought for less than a penny.
It has been agreed that further currency devaluation was one of the compromises that Goodluck Jonathan accepted on his visit to the white house on his quest for Power, Nevertheless the first incursion of such change came at a very bad timing , It is important that we understand that the IMF request to further devalue the economy was rejected not because it is unreasonable or that they were concerned for the destructive effects of such policy but that it would be a disadvantage for the incumbent government which hopes to retain power on the coming election, they know too well that implementing such policy will take the masses support away from them, so it becomes a question of the right time not the right purpose because for all we know the policy is already implemented, [/b]

ARIS-EI Dept Report#430221 Date: Feb,03,2011.

There are several options available to the administration to carry out the IMF request(currency devaluation) but we would look at the two main ways that is the norm in Africa, first, it can be blatantly dropped on the masses as usual considering the ordinary citizen has no say whatsoever in the running of the supposedly democratic nation and that 95% of the population are ignorant of the national economics altogether or a subtle and less conspicuous implementation may be chosen where the currency is being devalued gradually and the ignorant masses will simply accept it as a norm(see, EI Report#430104) and it will simply go as “ Our currency is falling” which is the usual way the masses see it in such cases. which ever method they wish to choose it would still have the same catastrophic outcome one more subtle than the other,

ARIS-EI Dept Report#430283 Date:April,26,2011.

adconline:
you are one DUMBA/S/S African

NATO take is orders from Amerikka

Why did it not get involved with the US to go and bomb Iraq?

How many times have you heard 5 Americans killed in Iraq, what you hear in the news is 5 NATO troops killed in Iraq.
The invasion of Iraq is done under NATO flag, you should try to see how those machines actually works.

ola_pluto:
'Iku tin p'ojugba eni, owe nla lo n pa fun ni' .
The death of your associate is telling you a strong proverb. Libya's situation should concern us as a whole. The scenario is just like Nigeria, only difference is that we have a puppet leader unlike Libya's strong man.
Libya: rich oil country, stable, peaceful, and citizens living a good life.
Then came the 'humanitarian brigade': They came to protect civilians with bombs. Blow up a few of Libya's miltary structure and render their airforce incapable. Blow up a few houses, kill a few women, men and kids, yet blame it on Ghadafi.
Whenever I hear BBC reports on the Libyan crises I laugh. It is so obviously biased and sometimes takes the urine. The BBC carefully choses words to suit its government's propaganda. 'Rebel forces' 'Pro-democracy activists' 'UK sends its intelligence officers to help the rebels'.
Bottomline is this: UK, France, and USA are only out for Libya's oil.Simple. They will do thesame to Nigeria tomorow if we get a president with balls who flushes away the foreigners who steal our oil and puts honest Nigerians in place.
USA will not hessitate to blow up Abuja the minute its oil inflow is threatened. Think well brothers.

Tell them my brother, Peoples mind are covered with hate and vengeance that we can no longer reason intelligently, We can no longer come together for a common interest. when i was growing up we read in school(i was raised in France) about the colonization of Africa and how Africa was balkanized later and the effect and conflicts that ensure, during my time in senior high, we learnt how the tribal divisions and hatred was manipulated for the interest of OUR NATION(being France as i was a Frenchman as well) and we read numerous examples of that in text books.
To tell you the truth, the true meaning of that was not clear till i started meeting Nigerians abroad from my university period onwards, how can be who i see as the same divide among themselves and even willingly betray each other based of tribe with a mentality of " he is not one of us" just because of tribe. God Please Help Us.

Again thank you Ola_pluto, people like you strengthens my faith in that country.

IfunanyaCHI:
please for the sake of national peace and cohesion, CIA did not create BOKO HARAM. that information anyway is not for public consumption so i will not go into it. what is wrong with all of us?. can't we just concentrate on the issues of the day and stop dancing around the bush. i thank you all for your concern towards the African Nations but lets have one thing in mind, Africans have a problem until we get to the roots of all these problem and proffer solutions to them, then people like Mubarak, Gaddafi and late Sani Abacha will crop up more. mind you, i never said they were not great leaders, YES THEY WERE, but there was a but in their ruling. the people's voice is the gods voice, when your people no longer accept your ruling, give them another chance to pick who they want. we are all entitled to our opinions but lets try not to instigate more anger in people. lets preach for peace, lets encourage one another in love, lets help build our nations and not to destroy. thanks

What do you know about Social Engineering ?
How does the Media affect peoples perception and interpretation of the events around them ?
How has the Media been used to "Form Opinions" among the masses ?
Gaddafi and Mubarak are never the same kind of leaders, it goes on to show uninformed you were about the later, the later cared about his people and the former does not give a hoot.

I believe that peoples voice are the voice of God(we might have different interpretation here) but what a situation where the masses are ignorant, and the enemies are using that ignorance to indirectly attack the leaders who wants the best for the people. just as was the case of China,Uganda and Libya.

You should know that the media has lied to you,The Nigerian Media does not take coverage of the events rather they take order on what to print and how to print it from the CIA liaison chiefs in Lagos, Abuja and most recently Maiduguri. Gadaffi did not kill his people, their was a mild demonstration which was called off and then later the Al Qaeda linked NLP with the assistance of the MI5 staged a fully wages terror on Benghazi and commandeered the whole city. the first efforts of the police to contain them were met with arms and that was what warranted the use of the military against them because it was from the onset a war against the government of the nation with arms and all that. we had our boys on the ground collecting intelligence from the onset and dissecting that with the what the media feeds the masses we can simply extrapolate the intention of the Imperialist .
The west will always create demons to further their aim and that does not worry me, what worries me is the ease by which good intentioned people like you buy their actions.

I will try and get the actual reports and dissect it and post it here so that people can read.

Boko Haram was created by the CIA and don't ever say it was not if you have not done any investigation into that. what was the aim ? i will give the excerpt from the ARIS report last month

[b]"By the time all factors will are set, the southern Yorubas will be angry at the North, the south-western igbos will feel threatened and oppressed and the Northern states will be in confusion on who is doing what and for what reason. The south and the south-east will see Islamism as an extremist organization and will be in the position to readily accept any help,idea or aid without giving second thought to help fight the "Terrorists" in the nation.
Who will the terrorist be ? Muslims and the northerners has held a symbol of all that is Islam in Nigeria .So we have a national divide which is fought on a guise of religion extremists but which the controller(imperialist) can successfully fuel and manipulate with tribal sentiments and extremisms.
The Media on such occasion will serve as the psychological machine which reports on religion differences, the true strings that would be pushed meanwhile is the tribal. The same Controllers(imperialists) will supply arms to both side to ensure sustainability of the war and gaining a foothold in the aftermath.
A subtle form of Psychological domination it forms the foundation for justifying the reasons why the actions or precaution which the CIA will later suggest to the key players in such theatres to be valid,in other words, they set up the factors in such a way that the players that they have chosen to use will see reasons with them."[/b]
only the words in parenthesis are mine.

queensmith:
The craziest thing still is nobody knows why these people are fighting. I mean the media tells you this the government tells you that but still nothing adds up. I know its getting cliche but I agree with what cap28 is saying, its normal to feel angry when innocent people are dying at the hand of 'superbullies' just becuae they can.
Anyway i did a little research and the bottom line remains, libya is a good country to live- i dont know many libyans. Education and healthcare is free, there economy is relatively stable and you can own a house for as little as 400 dollars, Nigeria isnt half as great as that yet the people recycle thier useless presidents! So the question remains- if libya has truly been unbearable why fight now?? Theres definitely a connection btn these events and obama questionable killing of 'osama'. Im guessing these leaders probably personally knew osama and will have known better than the trash obama gave on tv.
The wars were probably a way of occupying them so they can claim to have magically ini mini moed osama out of a jungle (or whatever he said) without any question from these (libya,tunisia,egypt) leaders,
Its always important to think for yourself, dont let the media think for you,

It has been widely known within international intelligence organizations that US is losing to the Afghans not on conquered lands as one may think, but the effects of the prolonged war on the Minds of Americans,the US economy, and the US relationship with other supposedly neutral nations, within the last two months there has been active moves made to find a kind of "closure" for the war, something that can be used as the END or the Objective which has been achieved so that they can withdrew gracefully or at least fix a date of withdrawal( not necessarily guaranteeing withdrawal) to remove the pressure on the government and buy more time to continue running the war machine, and at the moment announcing Osama's death is a good bait. whether it is really Osama or not(since they are the ones to do the verification and this spooky act of burying his body at sea) does not matter, what matter is the response from the ignorant public. the new straw man will be created, whether it is his second in command or a scare announcement that Al Qaeda was to take over the Government we will still see.

Stkilda:
I am not surprised that you feel the way you do about the Libya and the Gaddafis. It is the humanity in you that is crying out. I am sure that your heart is at the right place. However, I think that your empathy towards them may have been misplaced. Your feeling of brotherhood is definitely not reciprocal.  Like other Arabs, they do not see you as their brother. They see you as a low life “Black African”. Gaddafi has demonstrated that over the years by executing Black Africans without reasonable justification and by catching and locking them away for years in desert prisons simply for trying to travel to Europe through Libya. His reaction when Obama became the US president, “The slaves are now ruling the slave masters”. As far as he is concerned Obama is nothing more than a “Black slave”.  
As to whether the US is right to intervene in Libya, I say, “yes, they are”. It is their absolute right, as a nation, to pick and choose which conflicts to get involved in and for whatever reasons. I wish that they had chosen to intervene in the Nigerian civil war. I am sure that millions of lives would have been saved and it wouldn’t have mattered if in the end they helped themselves to some of the oil.

You can see from your own comment the problem with African, what has been destroyed in Africa is the African intelligence, and with that we lost all.
If we have the intelligence to see how things work maybe we can prosper, I can understand why you feel such way towards the Arabs and the way they treat blacks, but an intelligent African man would not justify such actions taken so far by NATO and US, if not it being plainly wrong then at least for the interest of the Black African struggle. Don't we understand that if we allow them to do it to Libya they will do it to us tomorrow ?
Don't we see that Qaddafi has never been the target, that the target has always been the Libyan people and their resources, and fomenting ways to get their puppet into office to exploit those people ?
Can't we see that because Qaddafi treats blacks so bad does not warrant allowing our rights to be trampled by allowing NATO to invade a nation without any consent from African leaders, Libya is an African nation my people not an Arab nation
will we allow such thing to happen to us ?

You wish the intervened in the Nigerian civil war, Well they did, in fact they caused the war, they planned it and executed it and made sure it went the way it did. I know many people does not have the information, of what really went on before and after the war, and how the British Manipulated the Nigerian generals to lead them to war. The Brits and others supplied arms non-stop to the Federal troops and introduce the blockage which killed millions of Biafran Children and women. It is more disturbing that we are fed doctored  history in Nigeria and most are not taught history at all.
Nigeria was better off than most of the these nations after independence, even better than US and Britain, our economy was booming and we still have many avenues to grow, our currency was far more stronger and stable than theirs(Britain,US,France,Germany etc) and we had mineral resources to back it up.
The pioneers of those days just being freed from colonization has a subtle hidden hatred for the west and was trying by all means to prevent any kind of domination and imperialistic exploits from them.
The west cannot allow such thing, it threatens their existence, it threatens all they have established as black people being backward and their reasons for interfering in African affairs, imagine a free African nation, where it government uses its resources for its people, Nigerian has surplus skilled and unskilled labour,stable economy, and was speedily INDUSTRIALIZING,with the needed natural resources to back it up. They can't allow such a nation to exist, we would take over their exports to African and in fact dominate their interest. their answer to that was the coup, the patriots staged a counter coup, and they manipulated it from the tribal lines which eventually led to war.
but enough of the history lesson, i have worked with French intelligence documents and shared intelligence documents from the MI5.
African should work more with intelligence , the way we do things does not work. we are dealing with heartless people.

To Mandingo, i was concerned that was why i registered and contributed my ideas. I have nothing to say to you i am more concerned about people that are willing to enlighten themselves and come together and face our common enemy.

Mind you i don't live in the UK, i am a Canadian citizen by birth, a French citizen by lineage(Mother), and a fully naturalized citizen of Russia.

I have helped literally Hundreds of Nigerians both in Canada and France to find their bearings and even though i might not be fluent in my mother tongue or know name of all the Sweet soups we have, i love my people to the heart and i will always fight for them wherever i can.

For many nigerian to agree with US and NATO interventionism into african affairs, and for many Nigerians to simply don't see through the Imperialistic manipulations of our Media and implications of such set ups is very disturbing, i am really worried about the ignorance in africa, and people like Cap" will always feel sad whenever he tries to enlightend such ignorant people.
The CIA has created the "Boko Haram" they have trained and supplied bombs and target, they were setting up the foundations for the next conflict, and they will be ready to interven soon.
Gaddafi has been a examplary leader in africa, it is a pity that being as uninformed as the africans are, or mis-informed as Africans are, the likes of Qaddafi can be easily be meddled with and we stand and cheer.
I kept asking myself who will be the next, which leader that wants to free its people from the yolk of western imperialism will be the next Demon to be torn down, while the stupid Africans watch and cheer. African freedom is a very long way ahead.
Jonathan the current nigerian president went to US to meet obama before the election, to get his support, is that what a leader should do ?, does that show we are a sovereign state ? or are we being sold off again by somebody that wants a share of the cake and just promised his master to do anything he bids if he would be granted a space at the table ? Does US support come for free or are there ties to it ?

Many people will never ask this question, we are already consumed by western mindset to our own peril, people like Mandingo who would rather be American than African and who despises anything of his own brethren is the people we should watch out for.
Divide and conquer is the rule here, we sit and cheer while one goes down, and we sit and cheer while another goes down. and they sit and cheer while we go down. Africa is being played my pawns but just like Cap said someday , just somday it will all come to an end.
At the moment the ignorant of my own people worries me the most.