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any young man that dates a woman a day older than him is cursed. unless you're doing it for the obvious.

I wish they can import this sort of savagery to Nigeria.

I will be a fool if i don't set the corpse on fire after beating him to death with a hammer.
Some silly dolts trying to be civilized would understand civilization when face to face with a thief.

I am sooo happy Nigerians are learning very fast, When they are spending their money on stupid things and you caution them, the answer they and others around will give you is " Their Money, Their life, wetin concern you " . When they are reaping the results of their stupidity they will want YOUR money, only a very stupid person will give out his/her money to these bastards, the less of them we have the better it will be for our society.

Nipeks:
If free will really exists, it will not rely on anything. That will only nullify it as free will. But unfortunately, our choices rely on circumstances beyond our control.
That answers your question.

This shows that you don't understand the concept of freewill itself. Freewill can not exist in relation to a vacuum, Since Freewill is simple the assertion that human have a choice in their course of Actions. You will really need to comprehend this concept since that might be the reason you choose your stance.

You wife did not will the fear out of herself, she relied on you. Key word - Relied.

Please read the analogy again, you are missing the point there, I am not one of the determinants in that scenario, Her experience(military training) is , it simply means i am not a factor to the outcome, her past experiences is.

Neuroscientist and physicists have carried out various experiments. Non of them proves that fee will exists. Some of the experimental observations are widely viewed as implying that free will does not exist or is an illusion.

Below is a quote from Wikipedia. Just saw this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_will


You may not respect my views. But maybe you can trust Wikipedia.

This article doesn't in any way disprove Freewill, it only states that certain groups among the scientific community are skeptical of it, while majority of the science community upholds it.
Those that are skeptical has been classified over and over by different groups as lacking understanding of the concept itself.

Research in Quantum physics has revealed that the human mind affects the outcome of our realities, the choices we make we realize according to the strength of our will.

I think you should really try to understand what freewill is all about.

Saying that human CHOICES are based on wants and fears really contradicts the notion of Predestination(the right term in this context)
For you to understand the absurdity of your claim I'll like you to answer this simple but illuminating question.

All Human CHOICES are based on wants and fear as opposed to what ?

I would like to explain that question further, if the plausibility of Predestination relies on "Wants and Fears" What would Free will rely on ?
The question aside, If the effect of our Wants and Fears results in a situation where we make choices, doesn't that still prove that the final outcome is not autonomous ? that such outcomes are a result of rational thoughts aimed at achieving a particularly desired objective. Mind you that individual objectives are not static hence Robert likes Goat meat while Patrick is a vegetarian. so facing the same situation Robert and Patrick will make totally different choices based on the aforementioned determinants(vegetarian versus Meat loving).
A reduction of your statement yields further to its self contradiction when we try to analyze the concept of Want, knowing fully well that OUR WANTS simply arises from our individual quirks and desires and by its nature not static. Being a war veteran i am not really afraid of gunshots, but my wife might faint at the sound of one, if i put her through basic military training those fears will subside to a manageable level. would you describe this conscious action of mine(putting her through military training) an example of Predestination or I influencing her and changing her Fears ?

Nipeks:
All our choices are based on wants and fears.

Nobody chooses what they want or fear.

Very cute couple.

you seem to selectively whatever favors you once Buhari is the focus, statements which agree to your preconceived conclusions you will praise, those which does not align to your expectations are not from Buhari but from imperialist press. that to me is "Politics of Convenience " .

GenBuhari:
They discussed implemention of 2017 budget bill, that has never been published to the public on pretext, that they are still working on it?

Buhari says he is happy with the progress and economy?
Buhari does not make comments to journalists about his meetings, so that is another clear lie.

Believe this news story at your own peril.

VP Osinbajo probably declined to attend because he needs to keep PMB in dark about the imperialist sponsored conspiracy for he and Saraki to abandon PMB 2017 budget in favour the secret imperialist sponsored one written by Saraki and assented to by Osinbajo. Osinbajo knows that PMB is soon to be permanently removed from office in a matter of days or back to his "treatment" in London within days.

your point which is there is NO Destiny, right ?

Nipeks:
A greater cause does not necessarily mean a God or Diety. I personally do not believe in that (though I am open to the possibility).
A greater cause could be the society, the government, the laws of physics anything we can't control as an individual.

Game and Chaos theory are both in support my opinion in the issue

Game Theory says the outcome of a participant depends on the action of other participants.

Chaos Theory says a slightly small change in the condition can give rise to strikingly great consequence.


It appears we are on the same side here.

Everything you say seem to prove my point.

Description of concepts such as Freewill does not lend itself to "black box" phenomenon whereby certain determinants just emerges from a theoretical black box(greater cause,God,Deity etc) rather its best understood if the world we live in is viewed as a finite machine, whereby the action of others influences the choice/cause of actions of succeeding actors.
So why do some people have stronger will than others one may still ask, the same reason why some people are taller due to genes, fair skinned, blue eyed, or violent due to environmental influences. I may assume you a civilized person and in my dealings with you , you might choose to be honest, if along the line that i decided to cheat or renegade on my agreements with you then your level of exposure,education and influence will determine whether you will choose to sue me to court or shoot me with a gun. These determinants are factors which shape the perception of our will, whether its strong in this scenario or weaker in relation to mine. I should also stress that such perception are wholly event based in the sense that your will might be stronger than mine this event but may prove far weaker in another scenario.
Such phenomena is a good example of Dynamic Systems and you can gain further understanding if you study Chaos theory to a light extent.

The problem with discussions such as this is that these concepts has been highly Theologized and Dogmatized by religious institutions which operate solely on "Faith Based Mechanisms" where potent inquiries are shunned and classified as heresy, thus analyzing Freewill from a religious viewpoint might seem awkward in the absence of any form of "Higher Cause"(God,Deity etc) to the uninformed.

Take a few minutes of your time and read about Game theory, its meaning and applications. i find it easier to comprehend and will answer most questions you have on the concept of Will and Supremacy of Will.

Nipeks:
I get your point. The stronger your will power, the higher your chance of success.

But why do some people have stronger will than others?

Wrong, Our Freewill precedes our actions, hence you have in the same theater of war parties trying to achieve opposing aims which is to totally annihilate each other. They all might want to succeed but may not have the will to dog it out.
in the same length two broke men might come to different outcomes when one might decide to rob a bank and the other to go into farming. the Bank robber's outcome is determined by the strength of the will of the security guards to protect their lot, he might emerge a wealthy man if his will dominates theirs or might lose his life as well. the Agric guy might make a living from his venture or killed by a Bank Robber on his way to withdraw money to buy farming tools.

Nipeks:
My logic is simple.

Your actions are shaped by your wants and fears.
You don't have absolute control over your wants and fears.

Do you understand that or you want me to elaborate?

Sorry, but all your examples actually proves that the concept of destiny is trash, You arrived at such conclusions based on the amount of information you have on the issue and hence ascribed all positive outcomes to the work of the invisible hands of Destiny. If to say you are more informed on these issues then you'll see that Goodluck became the president because of a carefully orchestrated imposing of will by others whom are more Self-aware. Hence his presidency serves some purposes for those that imposed him and when he became less useful he became deposed.
Look at what Buhari is going through , would you call that destiny ?
The amount of hardwork does not always equate to success(attainment of intent) but a combination of the Human Will and Situational Awareness. Hence the maxim prevalent in the National intelligence community is that "Nothing is by Chance".

ojoisimi:
Good luck Jonathan is a solid example to prove that destiny is real. just checkout the guy's history to understand ……ntrol.

Both St Paul and St Augustine wrote decisively on the autonomy of the will, as such the most crucial point is that if the freewill and how others of stronger will might influence the will of others, though they delicately tried to fit this within th3 Christian cosmology one can say that Paul's conversion was a result of a stronger will being imposed on his, not necessary God's but that of the Evangelists of the time. If one can do away with the fantastism of Biblical events such events as Paul's conversion and that of others are can just be reduced to a stronger will on the side of the Evangelist and effects of results from the actions of others, think Butterfly Effect(Fallout).
So Paul's conversion to Christianity is no different than you wearing a cardigan on a cold harmattan, it's just a result of a stronger effect(will) imposed on yours and your Sapient capacity to adapt hence protecting your person with the cardigan.
Extremists might want to extend this scenario to the choice of color of the cardigan you wore, for that i think it will suffice to say that picking one particular cardigan out about twelve in your wardrobe is just a result of you employing your freewill, after contemplating what color or thickness best matches your private intention for the said event. hence all is a result of our freewill or adapting to the results of others actions which also arises from their own freewill.
The concept of destiny was further shattered from the events on the Garden of Eden, if Destiny is by God then why did Adam and Eve disobey God ? does it mean that God 's creation is imperfect hence an imperfect God ? If God had fixed the destiny of Adam,Eve,David etc then why get angry at them when they erred ? Such must be a confusing God which i know our God is not. taking this concept of destiny further then one can say their is nothing like evil men since God that created them set forth such destiny for them and thus they are destined to go to hell, now you can see that this is quite contrary to God's purpose for man.

OrdercityWeb:
You mentioned St Paul, if i may ask was his conversion his doing?
Did he influence the divine appearance of Yeshua Hama5shiach to himself?

Only a fool whom do not know what happened to his fathers in 1967 will believe such stupid shit, All Southerners should leave the north.

Destiny is the most stupidest thing ever invented by religionists. most philosophers that i have read including St Paul described it as a load of trash.

If you know how betrayed we felt after all our efforts in warning these people then you'll understand, we told them the true history of Rochas, the anticipated assistance that presidential APC machinery was getting from Britain and US and predicted Buhari victory thereof, seeing how risky it was for igbo aspirations , These guys still went ahead and sold out thinking we "don't know what's politics"(there own words).
I just want to ask you what Power of Incumbency means , it simply means Okorocha PAID OFF everyone that's supposed to talk, from traditional rulers to the people that has the clout. It has no other meaning than that.

Vesuvius:
. Odiegwu really!

During Rochas quest for a second tenure, many igbo elders canvassed with imo people on the risk of electing this stupid man for the second time,
trying to explain to them that this is his second and last tenure and this is his opportunity to show who he truly is, it all went on deaf ears where these imo guys believe in money than common sense.
I had also engaged them personally on other political issues and i find out they really take cultural things as stupid, preferring good life, reckless enjoyment and showing of affluence and any means to acquire such as a better alternative, always shortsighted, they mostly want to get it NOW,
the effects you will be telling them on 10 years to come sounds like moronic yaps to them, to them its all about NOW and GOOD LIFE.
2011,2012,2013 ARIS survey shows that Imolites takes a major share of Youth Corpers that have sex with northern old men when posted to the north. talk about igbo integrity and social perception, taboos and the ethics of a full blooded Igbo person sounds like you don't know "what's up"
to those girls. it's just horrible. that deep igbo ethics and culture seems to be totally lacking in that state. if not how can okorocha get his second tenure ?

Ugosample:
Explain what you mean with the mentality stuff

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yet when Fulani people massacre the Middle Beltans and i laugh at them, most people will take their hypocritical ass out in the sun to brand me conscienceless, These people are meant to be USED,ABUSED, and ENSLAVED.

Suits Imo People, when Rochas Okorocha got his second tenure , i knew this sort of thing is going to happen. imos has a very skewed mentality of what being igbo is all about. maybe after this and others they will have a rethink on their beliefs.

I don't know what these guys are saying, in France igbos fraternize very closely, once you can spot the person is not Senegalese or Gabonese, in China you just speak igbo almost with any black person you meet before they'll correct you they are Ghanaian or Malian and guys still fratenize as well.
I have noticed the trend he's complaining about in nations with nationalized black population, like UK or US, those blacks seem disconnected and they don't rally around each other as African blacks do. most cases you assume the person is a Brit and you just walk by.

Those were the days Nairaland made sense, now it's always about Tiwa Savage and Hushpupi.

which amongst the media is not imperialist controlled ? cus it's widely acknowledged that the sit at home was people's choice of action, i will rather say that it is the brash and violent nature of the ruling Buhari government that force some people to hide their support for IPOB but they'll adhere to the sit at homes enmass to show their support.

GenBuhari:
These are half answers

Of course there was no violent enforcement of the "sit at home declaration" that is why many people was able to ignore it. But the menacing way the order was given probably led some people to obey out of fear of violence.

I suspect the sit at home declarations were less successful than portrayed by our corrupt news media which are supporting IPOB agitation because they are imperialist sponsored as are IPOB.

IPOB propaganda which are supported by our corrupt imperialist sponsored news media make it seem that Nigerian security forces are killing lots of IPOB protesters, interestingly the same protester seem to lack photo and video evidence to substantiate their claims . Everybody has camera phones, so would expect social media to be full of videos of these Nigerian security forces gunning down innocent unarmed,protestors right?

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Thank God they are "answers" at all. If Buhari should give half answers like mine in th3 form of dialogue then there wouldn't have the existence of Niger Delta Avengers, IPOB etc.

GenBuhari:
These are half answers

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there's no evidence requested, what evidence should i provide ? that Buhari is undemocratic ??

GenBuhari:
I couldn't disgree with your assessment of Buhari more. It is to make allegations do you care to provide any hard evidence to back up your assertions? Evidence that is more than news stories as we know that there a lot of anti-Buhari propaganda that is at best unproven coi=ming form our corrupt news media.

Don't twist the truth, it makes you look small, The sit at home declaration was a Civil action, well within the confines of the law, i didn't see it being enforced with guns or knives, if that is intimidating then i think the government of Nigeria needs self assessment to find out why the people adhered to it.[
The no election proclamation is also a civil action and no one is threatening to kill anyone. i find it funny how the really violent people will turn around and call something as peaceful as carrying a placard violence. If Buhari is not suited to democracy then he should just resign before causing further damage to the unity of the nation. i really hate buffonic people especially when they are in high places.

GenBuhari:
How do you know they have remained non-violent? Have your personally attended all their rallies.

There are different types of violence,
1. violence of intimidation - declare no work days without any type of consultation and authorisation with a menacing implied threat to violent enforcement.

2. Violence of blocking bridges to stop people from going about their business.

3. Violence of declaring " No elections in Anambra " again without any type of consultation and authorisation with a menacing implied threat to violent enforcement.

4. Violence of words insulting and abusing other tribes , the country and the president

the people took it upon themselves to call out the Governor's inadequacies, he's been extraordinary bad a leader and they have the right to protest his re-election, that's the nuances of a Democratic society, you can't expect them to be allowed one to oNe audience with the governor who only meets with people he wants to meet and not his constituents, do the masses made use of the civil opportunities open to them, seeing that as harassment shows the frigidity of the so called governor who claims to subscribe to the idea of democracy, it happen to Trump, it happened to Obama, also many times with George Bush, i don't see them killing anyone for that.

Yyeske:
Non violent but harassing a sitting governor in Anambra, abuses and insults anyone with a different ideology to theirs, is that what you call peacefull

Sorry, but i subscribe to the idea that Mr Kanu is right, Buhari is not a leader, an impulsive maniac who easily resorts to violence, a dictator who enjoys glorifying his own effigy. His Rash decisions has brought this country to this divided state and that's something you refuse to accept.

GenBuhari:
"Nnamdi" Kanu should listen to hi own advice.

He has forgone all avenue to carry out his agitation within existing democratic structures.


Choosing the path of confrontation and intiimidaton.

If he wants to engage with arguments then he needs to form a political party and get lawmakers putting IPOB arguments forward.

His words don't match his actions.
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IPOB has been non violent and has remained so, i won't say the same for Nigerians though.

mebad:
Now he believes violence is not the answer..... when he was busy beating the drums of war he did not pause to think of deliberating .

Andy Uba, the face of underdevelopment in Anambra state.