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It is needless taking the fight to ISS, these are not sanctions, it shows the Russians are not well grounded economically. The ISS is a collaboration between countries, USA, RUSSIA and EU. The ISS have different sections or modules that were built by these participating Nations, more like division of labour to research and achieve predetermined outcomes. If they say they won't fulfill their obligations anymore, who cares?. Life is more important. America kicked China out of the space project cos the Chinese were not to be trusted.

On the issues of not selling rocket engines to US is still not a sanction. The reason why America depended on Russian rockets engines especially on space travels was because the American politicians cut NASA' spending tremendously in its budget after the Space Shuttle expedition, American saw no economic value in space travels during the Obama administration.

People like Elon musk stepped up to the plate and now handling NASA's contract on space travels.

So these are not sanctions.
Putin just want respect, to be carried along, more like a brother that was abandoned and then grew strong.

yorubarere:
The West keep ranting on the media like a bitch. If Russia is nothing, why not join the war? Why hide behind Ukraine?

Bunch of modafuckers hiding behind sanctions to steal private Russian men businesses and properties. Putin will have their time whenever he is done with that comedy of a president, zelensky that sees war as an opportunity to make his country funny.

Russia already grounded OneWeb and stopped the sale of rocket engines to US, let them fly on rooms

Next is to off that Nord 1 stream tap and let those fuvkers freeze to death. One would think giving the ways they were slamming sanctions, that they depend on Russia for nothing, but opposite was the case.... their lives depends on Putin's country.

Revolution2022:
Muslims will not like this move.

I wonder why they hate the west so much.

Well, I know most MUSLIMS are not violent though but ISLAM is a violent religion, let's be honest.

...the Quran went further;

Quran 4:89

They wish that you should disbelieve, as they have disbelieved, and thus you become all alike. So, do not take friends from among them unless they migrate in the way of Allah. Then, if they turn away, seize them, and kill them wherever you find them, and do not take from among them a friend or helper

This was the Quran commanding muslims to kill the unbelievers in their midst if they ...

Jeez! SO GRAPHIC!!!

ItsReal:
You were reading the Quran online and you started at the middle?

Why don't you read a whole chapter instead of going to websites where fools spread propaganda to their likes to pick verse here and there.

Is this one propaganda too?
Sura 9:56-57
And they swear by Allah that they are from among you while they are not from among you; but they are a people who are afraid.

9:57
If they could find a refuge or some caves or any place to enter [and hide], they would turn to it while they run heedlessly.

If Islam was a religion of peace, why were unbelievers scared that they had to pretend to be muslims, now remember this was the early muslim community. Why were people scared that they were gonna get killed. (Were the unbelievers islamophobes then?). The only way they felt safe was to pretend to be muslims. Haba!

The Quran couldn't find succour for these people.

MrCodeSolo:
First of all, surah al ahzab 53 is an ayah and not a surah, this verse was sent down after it had come to knowledge, one of the Prophet Moh'd's(pbuh) disciples was nursing the idea of marrying one of his wives upon his demise - Allah revealed the verse becuz our Prophet was special to him. Allah (SWT) via this way, established a channel of respect for the Prophet. Allah sent revelation on this minor annoyance; and it demonstrates the great stature of our Prophet and the love that Allah has for him. And you too [ just like the visitors that have over-stayed their welcome] should love and honor your Prophet and make sure that your actions and speech are not discourteous towards him.
however, there can be at least some other significant lessons to learn from this verse;

1. Etiquette for visiting: You should be careful to not cause any inconvenience to the host, you should not enter anyone's home without their say so; even if you visit, it is reasonable enough not to loiter around but should limit the stay to what is required for your purpose.

2. Endorsement of banquets: Holding banquets is sunna of the Prophet according to the verse. It is expected of you to hold banquets for special occasions like; weddings, etc. invite people eat meals.

3. Etiquette for interaction with the oppsite gender, it is expected of you to observe hijab [ or a separating partition] from them when you are going to meet them, though you can communicate with them only when there is a need to, and seeking knowledge from them is allowed.

It doesn't make sense to me... why would Allah; supposedly the all knowing and all powerful send down a verse to his prophet to help him disperse a crowd just because his prophet is too shy to disperse them himself?

Does this not sound too mundane for a supposedly all powerful, all wise and all-knowing Allah?

advocatejare:
Let me give you the real reason which also expose how muhammad just revealed Quranic verses to suit his needs:



When those visitors wouldn’t go to their houses and muhammad wanted to consummate his marriage to Zainab the wife of Zayd his adopted son, Muhammad had to reveal the verse to disperse his guests away.


Allah the presumed god of the universe left important things and was helping Muhammad disperse his guest! That was wonderful!

Good enuf expose. I was expecting the Muslims in here to make clarifications on the said verse but they are always on the aggressive defense of the religion, does it mean they can't defend the religion without getting angry.
Not to bash anyone but we should always ask questions on areas not clear and that includes Islam.

Where's Antichristian?, You are always mute on matters like this.
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Are you saying that verse is different from what is obtainable in other Quran? I just need explanation, that's all.

From what I understand, the prophet was too shy to disperse the crowd that had gathered in his place to eat so Allah came to his rescue.

1. Now my question is? Why was the prophet shy?
2. What has this verse got to do with anything?

Thanks.

ItsReal:
You were reading the Quran online and you started at the middle?

Why don't you read a whole chapter instead of going to websites where fools spread propaganda to their likes to pick verse here and there.

Al-Ahzab Verse 53

"you who believe, do not enter the houses of the Prophet, unless you are permitted for a meal, not (so early as) to wait for its preparation. But when you are invited, go inside. Then, once you have had the meal, just disperse, and (do) not (sit for long) being keen for a chat. This (conduct of yours) hurts the Prophet, but he feels shy of (telling) you (about it), but Allah is not shy of the truth. And when you ask any thing from them (the blessed wives of the Prophet), ask them from behind a curtain. That is better for the purity of your hearts and their hearts. It is not allowed for you that you hurt Allah’s Messenger, nor that you ever marry his wives after him. Indeed, it would be an enormity in the sight of Allah"

So I was reading the Quran online and I saw this.
I need some explanation on this verse. Where's Antichristian??
Why is Prophet Mohammed so SHY to disperse his subjects; that he needs a revelation from Allah to help him disperse crowds from his �?

Imagine a Warlord is so shy to disperse crowds that he needs Allah's help.

What has this got to do with Salvation or Janna, seriously.

Note: pls disregard that oath I was compelled to sign to post in here.

Trustedpronet:
The Church laid foundation for their own destructions when they deliberately derailed from biblical injunction. Have you ever ask yourself why Nigerians singled Lai Mohammed out of other ministers and thereby labeled him a liar? When you speak the truth always...the truth shall give you the deserving respect without begging for it.

What "Biblical injunction" if I may ask?

So you think these religions should be subjected to ridicule even by the adherents.

I dont see you poking fun at freemasons, illuminatis or the Ogbonis. People follow these fraternities like a religion.

Trustedpronet:
Both Muslim and Christendom worship same Beast. Christianity became a joke when they insist on fake miracle, fake prophecy and turning the church into mega business arena. Jesus himself kicked against turning his father house to business center.

Awesomeking:
the reason why we are all made to swear an oath before commenting on an islam related thread is because of the constant insults done by Christians on that thread.. If you think I am exaggerating.. Go to any Christian post and check all through.. You won't see any comment by a Muslim calling jesus any derogatory name... But check Muslim posts (even with the oath meant to make it harder for the brainless ones).. You will see so many insults on prophets head, some call him animals.. Some call Muslims terrorist meanwhile you know quite well that the Muslim man in your street who greets you everyday is not a terrorist, the Muslim woman you buy akara from is not a terrorist, even the Muslim man in your office is not a terrorist.... But insults upon insults targeted at Muslims directly, not even islam.. Its crazy.

Don't get me wrong... I think Christianity has lost.

Atheists mock men of God, Moslems mock the religion and men of God, the Government mock men of God even the Christians that are supposed to defend the Christian faith are the forefront of dishing out jokes about the faith but i hardly hear moslems mock imams. Is christianity now a joke where everyone is free to take swipe at the religion and everyone will laugh about it just for the sake of it. The latest one is that Momma G.O.

Moslems do not tolerate such about their imams or sheikhs or their religion, if they were, they would have handed Sheikh Gumi over to the DSS for questioning long time ago for his role in aiding and abetting terrorism in the country. Even Nairaland protect moslems in here, we are made to swear a repugnant oath to comment on moslem related topics but Christian topics are open to all.

If Christians can mock pastors then I guess everyone can then.


Oh well, what do I know....

Did Jesus claimed to be God, let's look at some evidence in the Bible. Evidence that Jesus was indeed divine.

1. He possesses divine attribute, he says I'm the alpha and omega says the Lord God "who is and who was to come, the almighty" Rev 1:8
Matthew 28:30
Teaching them to observe all that i commanded you and lo and with you always even to the end of age.
And he said to him 'Lord you know all things; you know that I love you. Jesus said to him, tend to my sheep
John 21:17

Matthew 28:18-19
And jesus came up and spoke to them saying all authority has been given to me in heaven and on earth
Jesus is the same yesterday today and forever
Jesus committed no sin nor was there any deceit found in his mouth.
1 Peter 2:22

2. His own assertion
I and the father are one John 10:30
Before abraham was I am John 8:59

3. He has divine authority
And jesus seeing their faith said to the paralytic "son you sins are forgiven" Mark 2:15

...why does this man speak that way?? He's blaspheming; who can forgive sins if not God alone Mark 2:7

Mark 2:10,11, He raises the dead.
Roman's 6:23, He stands in Judgement .

4. His enemies accused him of claiming to be God
John 8, John 10
Jews answered him "for the good works we stone you not but for blasphemy, you being a man claiming to be God"
John 10:33

5. Affirmation of other new testament writers.
-for in him all the fullness of deity dwells in bodily form.
Colossians 2:19
"He's the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creations.
Colossians 1:15

If you have seen me, you have seen the father John 14:8-9
He was very clear about who he was (self assertion)

His people; final evidence and greatest evidence.
How we love one another
John 17-21
"That they may all be one even as you, father, are in me and I in you, that they also maybe in us, so that the world may believe that you sent me"

2 Peter 1:1
To those who have received a faith of the same kind as ours by righteousness of our God and saviour, Jesus Christ.

What is conservative about the North??.
A typical Northern Male muslim chauvinistic behaviour where the women are made to adhere to strict moral codes but the Male are free to indulge in the said vices.
What happened to the hisbah police inspector that was caught in bed in an hotel with somebody's wife

Hypocrites.

@Antichristian

Bros, you haven't defended or proven to me that your religion is the true religion, all you have done is attack christianity just like an atheist would.

Let me quickly burst your little lies again.

Let's look at (Deut, xviii 15) you quoted that foretold the coming of your beloved prophet. KJV
Deuteronomy 18:15
"The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;

Verse Analysis:
The book of Deuteronomy reiterates the Law of Moses to a new generation of Israelites who were soon to enter the promised land following their long, 40-year wanderings in the wilderness.

In anticipation of Gods people (Isrealites) entry into the promised Land through Moses, God forbade all vices such as idolatry, sorcery, necromancies, soothsayers, wizardry, witchcraft etc amongst his chosen people. That was why God told Moses he would raise a prophet from the midst of thee, amongst thy brethren.

Now you muslims are saying that this verse (Deut 18:15) is referring to prophet Muhammad, seriously I don't get the relationship between Mohammed and Israel's new found Land.
Was Mohammed an israelite? a jew? Was muhammad from the brethren? Was he a fellow country man?? were the Arabs Gods chosen people?.

First of all, God made his covenant with isaac and not Ismael and you muslims say arabs are descendants of Ismael.
The last time I checked muhammad was from an obscure quraish tribe of the Arabia and the arabs were an enemy of Israel, why would God raise a prophet amongst them, pls our God is not the author of confusion. This verse was obviously referring to Jesus because he ticked all the criteria.

I understand that you guys are trying so hard to prove the authenticity of your religion but you guys cannot keep misrepresenting the Bible every time. Jeeeeez!
If you say your prophet Muhammad is greater and mightier than Jesus, don't you think he would have been foretold by God explicitly, not these incoherrent nonsense chapters you're quoting up and down.

In conclusion to all these, the Bible nowhere specifically predicts the coming of Muhammad. Muhammad was not the prophet Moses predicted, and Muhammad was not the Comforter Jesus predicted. Since the message of Muhammad contradicts the message of Jesus and the Bible on many points, the only biblical prophecy that would apply to the coming of Muhammad would be Matthew 24:11, “And many false prophets will appear and deceive many people…”

I will not reply to your other insinuations, I feel it's a D**k measuring contest.

@Antichristian

"I know it will be hard for you to address my last post. You just picked only only number 1"

I can't quote your posts because it will be long, however I will answer them.

Even in the book of deuteronomy you quoted, it is still not referring to your Muhammed.
Now that we have established that no convincing evidence or texts foretold the arrival of Muhammed, can we now conclude that he was a false prophet?

You said "Common sense and logic can't be used to prove the trinity, how Jesus aka God was born by a human and died on the cross"

I believe you're questioning the divinity of Jesus christ and the core tenets of the Christian faith. Jesus was divine and yet he's not the father that's why the new testament could only be understood in the light of the doctrine of the trinity, where God is ONE in essence but exists eternally in 3 divine persons. Of course you wouldnt grasps this concept because your religion tells you it is Shirk and God has no partners, I can imagine the level damage that islamic conditioning has done to your brain over the years.
Is it unthinkable for God, the all-knowing, all-wise and almight to take the appearance of a man and humble himself be obedient to death, even-death on the cross to save his already drowning creation.. That is why Jesus was exalted, his name placed above every other name, above your prophet Muhammed to the Glory of God the father.

Imagine a powerful king was walking and sees his child drowning in a pool of water, wouldn't he immediately dive into the water to rescue his Child?. Imagine this is human Love o takeless of God's Love.

Christianity is all about Love. I know your religion knows nothing about love.
Again, do I believe in such (the Gospel, Jesus stories)? I am amazed that I actually believe from my own analysis and research,
1. Jesus was a true historical figure that existed.
2. He performed miracles like raising the dead, casting out Demons, healing the sick even your prophet attested to that.
3. He was crucified, buried and resurrected on the 3rd day.

To believe this makes Logical sense to me (in my view).
These are belief systems, I love my Muslim brothers because Jesus told us to love our neighbors as ourselves but do not go on to propagate lies, falsehood to the unsuspecting public about christianity.

You said the Quran was arranged by prophet Mohammed.
I thought he was unlettered and the Quran came about 100 hundred years after his death. What was the work of his companions?

You said Islam the perfect way of life and that all countries should model after it.
Islam is a perfect way of life?., How is Afghanistan, Yemen, Pakistan, Palestine, Nothern Nigeria, ISIS, ISWAP, Boko Haram, Hezbollah, alqeada, Alshabab working for ya??.

Christian countries have learnt to separate the Church and State something Islam cannot do. That's why millions of muslims are migrating to these countries by any means necessary because of tolerance, freedom, security and prosperity these countries provide for them something elusive in Muslim majority countries.

Why do you keep on about this old testament?

Of course you keep quoting the old testament to justify your rapacious murderous terrorists organisation, like ISIS, Taliban, Boko Haram and co.

Which religion is violent for the most part today? Is it not Islam?... Judaism and christianity like other religions have grown mature Islam is still stuck in cave era.
The violence you keep reiterating was a destruction of an enemy at a point in time for God to establish his Kingdom of Israel (The promised Land) of which the Messiah would be born to bring salvation to all Nations. Now compare it to Islam's continous onslaught against unbelievers and infidels in order to subjugate them. This is an aggressive doctrine, it is set up for global domination.

My friend this is the major difference between Judeo-Chrstian faith and Islam.

I don't know why you have problem with Apostle Paul, I deliberately ignored some comments you made earlier about Paul.
Well, first of all, Apostle Paul was neither among the 12 disciples nor the 13th disciple. After the encounter with Jesus christ on his way to Damascus to persecute Christians, his mission was clear, to preach to the Gentiles, that is why most of his writings were to the churches and moral codes in the church. Even Peter, the Desciple of Christ acknowledged Paul's work and recommended it.
Did Paul preached something different from what Jesus taught? If yes bring it up.

The problem I see here your Allah was was unaware about Paul's existence or perhaps he forgot to reveal it to Muhammed. So you muslims hate Paul. It is understandable.

You said Islam is free of error. I will leave this one for some else to reply.

In all of this,I still love you my brother though I don't know you but I hope you see sense in our discussion.

@antichristian

Like I said Islam can only thrive in a room full of people who are ignorant of islam, this religion propagates falsehood, lies; goalpost shifting and cherry picking is their stock in trade.

Your Islamist scholars, Muslim apologists such as Ahmed dedat, Zaik Naik have all fed you poison and you have all swallowed it with less time to think for yourselves.

Let's look at the Gospel of John xiv:16 (14:16) you quoted. I am using KJV
John 14:16 - And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

So Jesus told us that he would send a comforter. Does this comforter sound like Muhammed to you?, was Mohammed a comforter? and did he live forever? We all knew how he died. So my friend, Jesus was never talking about Mohammed but the holy Spirit but let's go a bit further.

Chapter 17- Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Again, does this sound like Muhammed? Was he a spirit?? Did Mohammed dwell in us Did people not see Mohammed waged wars against countries, killing husbands and taking widows as sex slaves.
Again, you ignored the next verse because it does not serve your deceitful purpose.

Let's even assume Jesus Christ was referring to your prophet.

Again, you're quoting a Gospel that opened with a declaration of acknowledging the deity of Christ, something you muslims reject. I quote; KJV
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

...John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

Amplified Version
John 1:14 And the Word (Christ) became flesh, and lived among us; and we [actually] saw His glory, glory as belongs to the [One and] only begotten Son of the Father, [the Son who is truly unique, the only One of His kind, who is] full of grace and truth (absolutely free of deception).

Let's even forget about the deity of Jesus Christ. I can't be more generous than that, let's go further.

Muslims usually tell us that Allah sent Moahammed and even you have reiterated that severally in your write ups so no argument about that.

You have just exposed to us that Jesus sent prophet Muhammed in a bid to tell us that Prophet Muhammad was foretold in the Bible in the gospel of John 14:16 you highlighted.
So if Allah sent prophet Muhammad it means Jesus Christ = Allah because Jesus Christ sent the comforter.

Na you talk am o, no be me o.
This was why I said this debate has a weak foundation.

@Antichrist

I dont believe there's need to go on with this because I feel our subject matter has no solid foundation. (In my opinion)

1. No sources foretold the coming of prophet Muhammad and his prophethood. (If there is, prove it). You can quote from any source.
2. Ethics of both Faiths are directly opposite, one is Love and the other is seemingly violent.
3. Muslim apologists continue to refer to the Bible for plausibility even when they say the Bible has been
corrupted and distorted.
4. I see Islam as another denomination of christianity just like JW but it is a militant and proselytizing faith.
5. Christianity does not need to refer to the qur'an for credibility, certainly not on the account of Jesus of Nazareth. (Islam came 630 years Later), dont tell me revelations.
6. Islam is an imperial sociopolitical ideology masquerading as a religion adopted by the Arabs to create a separate identity. A tool used by the oppressors (Ruling class) just like Marxism and fascism.

In summary, i simply dont think Islam is a true religion based on the points I highlighted above. The burden is on you to prove to us that your religion is the right one. It will be pointless arguing something that I view as a sociopolitical ideology with set of worldly rules to control people especially Women.

If you answer all the points I raised above I will answer your previous post comprehensively. I am an open-minded person.

I have some Muslim friends, very nice guys, liberal people but there's something similar here; they don't take the religion serious.
I don't have problem with Muslims but ISLAMISM.

Islamism impedes growth and development. (This is a fact most ardent muslims don't like to hear)

"Individual muslims may show splendid qualities but the presence of the religion impedes growth and development; there's no stronger retrograde force". The river war, Winston Churchill.

"Those that make you believe in absurdities will make you commit atrocities" Voltaire

@antichrsitiann

I can be ignorant on many things but certainly not in the case of Islam because it is very easy to dispute this religion based on clear evidence of falsehood.

I'm trying to use my common sense and logic here so no need for Bible verses or Quran suras.

In your whole write up you repeatedly emphasize on credibility, that's to say Islam is more credible according to your Quran but you forget that the Quran Book itself is in no chronological order and one can't really differentiate between the Mecca revelations to Medina revelations where your prophet enacted the Law of abrogation, where Medina revelations supersedes previous revelations in Mecca. We all knew why he took this stance. (you see why we say the Quran is Mohammed desires, as the events goes; he adjusts his revelations accordingly).

How can I believe he was a true prophet. Pls God is not the Author of confusion.

Islam as a religion is centered on worldly subject matters such as rules for rituals, clothing, sex, food, Money, conduct etc, christianity on the other hand is a very spiritual religion that does not stand for any political idea.
These religious laws were rescinded in christianity , only faith, hope and love can bring salvation.

Many christians view Quran worship as idolatry as no worldly thing can have divine perfection.

Yes Muhammed got rid of Jesus Christ as the central figure in christianity to perpetuate Islam and Muhammed as seal of the prophets, they reduced Jesus to a mere prophet and went far as saying he was not crucified, that it was made to appear that he was crucified but some else was crucified in his stead.
This was why Islam was rejected earlier on amongst the earlier Christians..it is what they feed their little kids from young age in Islamic schools by their scholars.

Paul neither claimed divinity nor did he say he was God, so I don't understand that question.
Pls in christianity the bible is compiled by men with the inspiration from God while in Islam the Quran is the exact word of God.

@maxindhouse

Dont mind them. They are telling and forcing us to believe Mohammed to give the true account of Jesus. He was an illiterate that was not conversant in history nor past religions even the pagans did a better job than him in the early Arabia, he was a hearsay prophet and the Quran is Mohammed's 'desires'. How can I believe one man to give account of a very important religious figure claiming he got revelations from God and no one was else there.

The Revelations could have been devil inspired, Mohammed even told us that he was possessed by demons and blackmagic, that was why he refuted a supposedly earlier revelations from Allah (claiming it was of the devil). But I say if it was in the time of moses, a person like Mohammed would have been stone to death for that deed. Mohammed was schizophrenic.
Mohammed could have a been a prophet no doubt about, I say this because from sources available he truly believed he was one but the question is, are the revelations from almighty God?. I think not (I have reasons for this)

Mohammed's goal was simple, he simply wanted to achieve religious political power, to achieve this was to plagiarize previous religions through culture appropriation, in christianity what better way to distort it than to get rid of Jesus Christ and put himself as the seal of the prophets. He was a very wise man.

Not to bash my muslims friends nor islam, pls drop the Quran for a moment and ask fundamental questions, do your independent research.

One fellow in here even commented that the Quran acknowledged that Mary conceived Jesus by the spirit of God. Is the spirit not part of the Christian trinity?

Very confused people.

Christistruth00:
Edo no be Lagos

Obaseki is a Disaster

PDPs Daniel Orbih and his supporters that fought tooth and nail for Obaseki to be Governor have already been thrown under the bus

Oshio Baba must be watching and dancing that his Skelewu dance by now

Even Gov Abiodun of Ogun State that is normally fast asleep has signed the Anti Grazing bill into Law

Our great Edo People What is happening ?

Oshiomhole right now in his iyamho residence.

Keep blabbing!!! which town hall meetings did you hold With whom did you hold the meetings and when.
Keep playing politics with people's lives, Mr know-it-all.
No state house
No councillors
No local government chairmen.
Weldone emperor Caligula.

"NW with a population of 35.8m has 8,806"
That region has a huge population but why are they not remitting the most VAT and Taxes?
Are they unproductive

Ibkhaleel001:
Because the North are larger than you...their share must be greater than yours...or you expect to occupy all the spaces? Thats justice in your definition?


Lemme expose you once again lets see who really are the beneficiaries of Nigeria....

Number of Federal Civil Servants State by State
1: Abia 3579
2. Adamawa 1727
3. Akwa Ibom 4416
4. Anambra 3576
5. Bauchi 1172
6. Bayelsa 957
7. Benue 3951
8. Borno 1822
9. Cross River 2681
10. Delta 4419
11. Ebonyi 865
12. Edo 3890
13. Ekiti 2613
14. Enugu 2695
15. FCT 533
16. Gombe 1218
17. Imo 5825
18. Jigawa 675
19. Kaduna 3199
20. Kano 1545
21. Katsina 1237
22. Kebbi 875
23. Kogi 5186
24. Kwara 2537
25. Lagos 2180
26. Nasarawa 1452
27. Niger 2193
28. Ogun 4669
29. Ondo 3393
30. Osun 3321
31. Oyo 3244
32. Plateau 2542
33. Rivers 1675
34. Sokoto 732
35. Taraba 1112
36. Yobe 744
37. Zamfara 543
Not specified 518
TOTAL: 89,511
By Dr Joe Abah - DG, Bureau of Public Service
Reforms". (C): Johnson Andrew, this is the Analyzed data based on population figures of each state.

THE DIRECTOR GENERAL OF PUBLIC SERVICE REFORMS, RELEASED STATISTICS OF EMPLOYMENTS INTO OUR PUBLIC SERVICE.
THE RAW FIGURES PER STATE ARE

(A). EMPLOYMENT INTO THE PUBLIC SERVICE
NE with a population of 19.0m has 7,793
NW with a population of 35.8m has 8,806
SE with a population of 16.4m has 16,540
NC with a population of 20.3m has 17,661
SS with a population of 21.0m has 18,038
SW with a population of 27.6m has 19,620

To appreciate this figures, it is necessary to find out how many employees are taken from every 1 million people in each of the geographical zones.

The result is:
1st. SE has 1,009 Employees per million
2nd. NC has 970 Employees per million
3rd. SS has 859 Employees per million
4th SW has 711 Employees per million
5th NE has 410 Employees per million
6th NW has 246 Employees per million

Here we can see that South Eastern Zone has over 1000 people engaged in the public service of Nigeria in every 1 million Igbo people, whereas only 246 people are engaged in North West!
Remember that this is the Zone of the President of Nigeria.

Curiously South West, the Zone of the Vice President is the least in Southern Nigeria with the employment of 711 people in a million.
It is pertinent to see the trend as regards Political Office holders. Probably, those that lost out in the Public Service, are compensated with Political offices. Let's perform sample surgical operation on the political employees.

(B . POLITICAL APPOINTMENT
We all have the statistics of political appointees of the current Buhari administration.
NW has 51political appointees from 7 states
NC has 47 political appointees from 6 states
NE has 45 political appointees from 6 states
SW has 45 political appointees from 6 states
SS has 45 political appointees from 6 States
SE has 41 political appointees from 5 states
These translate to:
1st. SE: 2.50 appointees in a million.
2nd. NE: 2.37 appointees in a million.
3rd. NC: 2.34 appointees in a million.
4th. SS: 2.14 appointees in a million.
5th. SW:1.63 appointees in a million.
6th. NW:1.42 appointees in a million.
Alternatively:
1st. SE: has 1 appointee in every 400,000
2nd. NE: has 1 appointee in every 422,000
3rd. NC: has 1 appointee in every 427,000
4th. SS: has 1 appointee in every 467,000
5th. SW: has 1 appointee in every 614,000
6th. NW: has 1 appointee in every 704,000

Once again topping the list of beneficiary is South East with one political appointee for every 400,000 people. As if it is an intentional act, NW, from where the President hails has the least of 1 political appointees for every 704, 000 people while the figure for Osinbajo's Zone is 614,000 and is the least in the South.

THIS IS NOT MY DEFINITION OF "MARGINALIZATION" BEING PEDDLED BY THE IGBOS THAT ARE, IN FACT THE BIGGEST BENEFICIARY IN NIGERIA. FIGURES DON'T LIE.

What makes me laugh is when i see some Yoruba crying for the Igbos when the latter talk about Marginalization. They should be crying for themselves.


Can you now see that the Muslims are the once cheated You hikack everything and they allow you because they are peaceful

But you dull empty brain person comes online to bash Muslims

All these whining and complaining because the South asked you guys to start fending for yourselves.

Oh boy! You get power o

Ibkhaleel001:
A major problem the South has is how it underestimates the North. Their minders have led a majority of them to believe that the northerner is an unschooled slowpoke who only progresses through connections. Despite northerners that became billionaires by dint of hard work, intellectuals that have pushed the frontiers of scholarship, leaders that have provided impeccable administrations to great applause and politicians that rose like the colossus to dominate their environments, the average southerner still gets bamboozled – and envious – by the way the northerner dictates what goes where.
But a pertinent question to ask is, why do people kick against federal character yet want a position zoned, rotated or surrendered to them? If they are as intelligent and educated as they think they are, then they should know that politics is all about bridge-building, consensus and give and take.
However, in their confusion, despite their belief in the superiority of their intelligence, they take Nnamdi Kanu and Sunday Igboho as heroes. Some even believe they are comparable to Sheikh Gumi. A Methodist Bishop ridiculously said that he will stand by Kanu as long as “northerners stand by Pantami and Gumi”. A known southern columnist, too, wrote on how Kanu and Igboho were arrested while Gumi “had a slap on the wrist.”
What they refuse to accept is the fact that Kanu is a terrorist in the class of Shekau. A fugitive from justice having jumped bail while standing trial in a court of competent jurisdiction. He instigated people to kill through electronic messages the way Shekau did. He calls for the Balkanisation of the country. Perhaps being a second-class British citizen, he sees Nigeria as a “zoo” and Nigerians as animals. His gullible followers, Nigerians through and through, accept being animals in a country that is a zoo.
Maybe because most of his followers are those frustrated with their lives, they find solace in living in utopia. They claim they are Jews. Laughable as it was, with no historical or biological evidence to support the phantasmagoric claim, the real Jews did a DNA test to confirm their Jewishness that it is false.

mu2sa2:
Why are you guys obsessed with alcohol. God didnt didn't command you guys to be drinking alcohol, something y'all know is detrimental to health.

Hahahaha...I find this comment quite hilarious, that's not the point though, the point is true fiscal federalism. If the North had acceded to earlier calls to produce a workable country, I think these problems will be sorted bits by bits.

Enuf of the grandstanding and let's produce a workable union.

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Dont mind them, every historian knows that the massacre of the Jews that took place then was with the template of moslems led by the moslem leader of Bosnia then.
Him and Hitler were very close to each other, it was hatched by both of them. (There was nothing Christian about Hitler)

Moslems in this forum cannot fool us.

Ammishaddai:
When people say Hitler was a Christian or Jew , I begin to wonder at their rationale . Did Hitler ever use a bible to preach his Nazism to the Germans ? No. But the all terrorist outfits out there use the Quran to justify each and every atrocity being committed on a daily basis . Last week, I watched an old video of the beheading of a few America soldiers ,and guess what their executioners were holding ...? A fvcking Quran . And they were reading from its pages the punishment for infidels. Which just goes to show that Islam is supported by violence through its holy book , the Quran.

Always quick to play the victim card and blame the West, you have not addressed why Islam is always poised for attack against non moslems, it is your Allah command to kill the jews and Christians wherever they are found. Why will the Israelis not defend themselves against people who wants to exterminate them.

"All year who believe! Take not the Jews or Christians for your friends and protectors; they are but friends and protectors of each other. And he amongst you that turns to them for friendship is of them. Verily Allah guideth not the unjust ( Quran 5:51)

" The hour (of judgment) will not come until the moslems fight the Jews and kill them. It will not come until the Jews hides behind rocks and trees. It will not come until the rocks or tree say o' Muslim o servant of God; there is a jew behind me. Come and kill him. Except for the gharqad, which is a tree of the Jew"
[Sacred Hadith, Bukhari 1036, number 2926]

I am not in support of the killing of defenseless women and children but whom do you blame when these terrorists use human beings as shields after attacks on supposedly enemies of ISLAM.

So Seun was right for call of reformation of Islam though I believe it is impossible because according to moslems the Quoran is the MOST HOLIEST BOOK.

verifiablefacts:
You are right with your submission, the nairaland's I tend to agree more.Muslims don't desecrate Christian deities or insults the religion. I observed some trends amongst (some but mostly) Christians when a Muslim cleric dies,you'll read hateful comments,but not the other way round.

You'll agree more if you're to go through all the comments above.The OP raised some instance and someone is mentioning boko haram .

The last time I checked there are several Religions in the world. Why is it always Islam that has to be offended Mehnnn!!! freedom of speech is a fundamental human right o.

If I say Brahma and Kali are false Hindu Gods, will Hindus want to cut off my head Islam should be tolerant of criticisms if it intends to show the world it is the only TRUE RELIGION as they claim.

OP, You are just trying to justify terrorism.

So Christian Nations caused Usman Dan fodio the Jihadist to conquer northern Nigeria where people who did not accept Islam were put to death and was stopped in his tracks when he was advancing down south?

From what you wrote, one would think these problems started today, actually it dates back centuries ago.

Ottoman empire collapsed because it witnessed economic decline and West (Christian Nations) was steadily building a new world order by financial innovation and technological and military advancement.

If not, the world have been Islamic Emirates by now. Have you forgotten the Armenians genocide where millions of Christians that includes women and children were slaughtered and some expelled by the ottomans, the Christian Nations caused that one too??

Your religion knows conquest only including conquests of dissidents, it is natural for people on the other side to resist and the ensuing chaos is what the world is experiencing today just the same way your prophet started this religion. Your religion was/is built on the blood of martyrs.

You people actually need Christians to save you from yourselves.

Even the so called western education you have recieved was conceived, encouraged and propagated by the Christians especially the catholic church.

You may have problems with Christians but not christianity as the faith was built on Love.

Your Allah should go and rescue people in Afghanistan first, stop threatening us with your Allah.

abassanty:
Fear Allaah with your language of comments