I have been following quite a number of threads in preparation for my F1 visa interview, and I feel it’s only fair I share my experience so as to help someone else.

My visa interview took place in Lagos on the 22nd of July 2021 10:30am.

Visa Transcript -

VO - Good morning, can I have your documents
Me - I greeted him back and proceeded to hand him my i20 and intl passport.

VO - Why are you going to the US
me - I’m going for my Masters of Business Administration & Management at bla bla bla business school in Boston Massachusetts.

VO - Why did you choose this school.
Me - I chose this school because of its central focus on entrepreneurship as well as an exciting elective titled “Business Strategy in emerging Markets”. For some reason the VO guy nodded.

VO - Have you travelled out of Nigeria before?
Me - Yes

VO - Where have you travelled to?
Me - Australia

VO - I see you have a $30k scholarship, how do you intend to cover the rest of your tuition and living expenses?
Me - I have been awarded a student loan by a private company affiliated with the school (I proceeded to hand him a letter from the loan company (prodigy finance) + a sheet with the breakdown of the loan amount, interest rate and loan repayment terms)

VO - How long will it take to pay this money back?
Me - The maximum repayment term is 20years, however because the company uses an APR system, I intend to pay back much sooner to reduce the overall amount I’ll eventually have to pay back. (VO nodded for the second time)

VO - How do you plan to pay this money back?
Me - I have been offered a managerial position in my company (I proceeded to hand over my post-study employment letter from my employer)

VO - (flips through the letter to the salary breakdown section) This amount is your annual salary right?
Me - Yes it is

VO - Are you married?
Me - Yes I am

VO - Do you have any children?
Me - Yes I do. I have a one year old daughter

VO - Why aren’t you travelling with your family?
Me - My wife just started working at a new company less than 6months ago, and she isn’t entitled to an annual leave yet. My daughter is also very young and we have all the help we need in raising our daughter here in Nigeria, in the US we will have no such help. (VO nodded for the third time).

VO - (types fast and said nothing for what felt like 2 long minutes). I’ll be approving your visa, (handed me a white sheet of paper) you can pick your passport up at bla bla bla.

The whole process took less than 5minutes.

My advice to those going for their interview soon -

1. Read through as many visa transcripts on nairaland as you can find. I wasn’t asked any question that I wasn’t prepared for thanks to reading through a lot of transcripts.

2. F1 visa is classified as “non immigrant visa”. You need to show sufficient proof that you have no plans to immigrate permanently to the US. Saying it to the VO is not enough. There were alot of people who said the same “I will be returning to Nigeria after my studies” who got rejected. You need to show proof of ties to Nigeria.

3. Get your financial documents intact. For some reasons most people who had extended family members sponsoring them were denied (eg uncles, aunts, god father etc). You are better off being sponsored by parents or siblings. And they are so much more interested in the careers of your sponsors than just looking through their statement of account details. I didn’t notice anyone being asked for SOA, I certainly wasn’t asked as well (I think they have figured that some people come along with fake SOA).

4. Remain calm. Don’t be ruffled by other peoples interview, no two interviews are exactly the same. I personally tried my hardest not to focus on other people’s interview although for the most part it’s difficult not to hear what’s going on.

Wish you the best. Cheers.

mowah:
1. Shell Average salary of all staffs N465,200
2. Chevron. N430,400
3. Nigerian Breweries N364,000
4. NNPC. N350,500
5. MTN Nigeria. N308,650
6. Etisalat. N283,500
7. Dangote. N281,000
8. Globacom. N279,030
9. Guarantee Trust Bank PLC. headquarters N268,000
10. PZ. N267,800.

Is this quoted salary weekly?
I don't know about others tho, but the quoted salaries for SHELL and CHEVRON are hilarious.

Champella:
@Tiimmy

Ah! My boss has arrived. I suggested a course which wouldn't require Biology. I believe he'll carry out a proper research on what would be discussed here.


He still needs to meet a Counsellor on this issue just like you've said. Since you're a practising Engineer, you could guide him on how to go about it. Thanks for your input as well.

Your humility is humbling. You are the boss sir, and we all know it
I think people should not under-estimate the influence of a counselor; especially when one is at a cross road.
I remember when I had this decision to make. Twas really difficult as i had great grades in all my courses.
I reluctantly sort the advice of a guidance counselor. The rest is history...
I sincerely wish him the best.

paullo240:
Hello nairalanders. Please advice him on this. what career path or course can he pursue with this waec result
physic =B3
Chemistry= C6
Biology - D7
Agriculture - B3
Maths - C4
English - C5
Geography - B3
Economics - C6
C R S - B3
please advice needed urgently
Thanks

Try and find out your passion. Lets your passion decide for you, and not your result...
I usually tell people that its extremely difficult to cope as an Engineering student, without having taken Further-Maths in school.
Calculus, ordinary differential equation, Fourier series, Vectors etc are all off shoot from the basic further-mathematics taught in secondary schools.

Champella:
The result is good. You can go in for any Engineering course. Example is Mechanical Engineering. Your English, Mathematics, Physics, Chemistry are okay.
Good luck brother!

I disagree with you alittle sir....
Let him try and find out what interests him.
And if hez confused, he should see a guidance counselor..... I did too, and it was worth it

Crocz:
This is serious, really really serious...so far i've lost 35 layers in just 4 days to Newcastle (confirmed from post mortem)...I usually contained it before but this strain seems unstoppable with every drugs I've given them. It getting messy here abeg, even the experts seem to have resign to fate but I'm not giving up.

Pls anybody with solution. I can't vaccinate them cos most of them still look sick. It's been a hell of a few days, I know if I go back to the farm 3 woulda died again and that me being optimistic.
Pls help save a brother!

My mum has a poultry and once had this problem. Its really heart breaking to see ones livestock die just like that; so i totally understand what you're going through. My mum would cry sometimes..... its crazy.

She had to stop raising layers. Shes mostly into turkeys now.

Layers are very fragile and one of the hardest to raise. Heat kills them, cold kills them, they even kill them selves even.
I suggest you begin to quarantine the ones showing physical signs of illness. Consult a real specialist. There just has to be a solution. I don't want to believe all hope is lost.

All the best bro.

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Dpinaku:


Most persons actually use these two interchangeable so at the end of the day, it may boil down to semantics.

The Piping Engineer's job 'may'(Emphasis on may) actually continue from where the Piping Designer's job stops.

The piping industry is a 'world' on its own. its not just limited to use of modelling software -SmartPLANT, Pro-PIPE, AutoPLANT, PDMS, showing the interconnectivity of the various components in the systems -Process Flow Diagrams(PFDs), Piping and Instrumentation Diagram (P&ID), selection of piping materials, which can be a function of the service environment and the commodity involved, thorought understanding of piping codes and standards- ANSI, BS, ASME, Performing stress analyses- CAESER II, AutoPIPE and consistensy checks on the system.
It also involves supervision of the construction of the piping system and a whole lot more.

Just like I said, it all boils down to semantics. An engineer can design and go ahead to supervise and construct while some may see the designers' job ending after the drafting stage.

It all depends on the part of the divide that you are.

Nice

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Great concept.

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shyna01:

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thanks very much for the clarifications made. if I where to go for masters degree, which area(s) would u advice me to specialize in as most universities just do production, manufacturing, materials, corrosion amongst others?

That most universities offer courses in Production, Manufacturing & Corrosion is just not true. Except you are strictly referring to Nigerian Universities (and they offer more courses than you listed). My advice for you or anyone with regards a favorable choice for MSc. would be to first of all know your interest as well as where your strength lies (especially for people without any working experience). Those with reasonable working experience can easily go for an MSc. in their working field, with little or no consideration with regards to interest or strength.

As interesting as some of these courses sounds (Subsea Engineering, Pipeline Engineering, Offshore & Ocean Tech etc) they are simply not for the faint hearted. Interest & strenghth will be needed to see these courses through.

So research more sir, and choose with respect to your interest & strength.

All the best..

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shyna01:

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.
good day sir, I'm interested in
knowing what it takes to be a pipeline
engineer and what areas to develop
myself given the rare opportunities
available and d barrier of "min. 2yrs
exp."?
I know AutoCAD and inventor (tho
still need to brushup.)
anticipating ur replies.

Bro,

An Engineer role is very much different from a "Designer" role. Hence your proficiency in any CAD package doesn't necessarily qualify you for an "Engineer" position. There is a whole lot of analysis, design calculations, use of industrial codes & standards and lots more, for an Engineer compared with the high dependence on CAD softwares for a "Designer".

Engineers also use software packages, but its mostly for Engineering analysis and not modelling.

This means that a Pipeline Engineer is very much different from a pipeline designer.

Secondly there is lot of difference in job description and responsibility matrix between a Pipeline Engineer and a Piping Engineer.
Do some research about these two fields and you should be fine.

To answer your question, for an Engineer role, a lot is dependent on Experience and not proficiency in CAD packages. So you'll need to start from the scratch i.e an intern or trainee engineer position. No short course, BSc. ,MSc. or PHD will better prepare you for an Engineer position than an intern or trainee position.

However, your proficiency in CAD packages (with or without experience) qualifies your for a CAD designer position in most companies.

I hope you find my opinions very useful.

Cheers.

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Ehimenboy:

Hello. I'd like to know if a person without a first degree in Engineering (but probably with a Master's) can be registered as an Engineer with COREN.
Thanks in advance.

First off, I don't see how a person without a 1st degree in an Engineering related course, will be admitted (in any institution world wide) for a Masters degree program in Engineering.

That being said, COREN is no more singled out (as it was some years ago). Now you have to be a member of Nigerian Society of Engineers for a period before proceeding with COREN. NSE however is a function of your 1st degree in an Engineering Field. So, I really don't see how you can be COREN registered without a 1st degree in Engineering..

This is just my humble opinion; try and do more research.

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Reticular:



Nice to read from a fellow piping engineer. This is an area that is not well pronounced among upcoming engineers. I blame this partly on the inadequate information on this field right from undergraduate study. It is interesting to know that one get good grasp of design when involved in piping engineering or pressure vessel task.

I still don't understand why this field is still largely vague to undergrads....
Nice to know a fellow Engineer is here too....

Swiftboy:
Chemical Engineers are also known as process Engineers please google. Infact, Manufacturing of any goods and services are splitted into two Process and Unit Operation. Process involves Chemical reactions while Unit operations involves taking advantage of physical properties to produce goods or materials. You cant convince me from what am sure of. Except if production engineering is different from process engineering. Kajiko?

The discussion isn't about chemical engineers being referred to as Process Engineers. Its about Chemical Engineers being referred to as Production engineers. And i disagreed with you, saying Production Engineering was closer to Mechanical Engineering than Chemical Engineering.

But then again I can sense there is no convincing you on this subject matter.

I rest my case sir....

Swiftboy:

What do Chemical Engineers Do?

It would take too long to list all the products that are impacted by chemical engineers, but knowing what industries employ them may help you comprehend the scope of their work.

Chemical engineers work in manufacturing, pharmaceuticals, healthcare, design and construction, pulp and paper, petrochemicals, food processing, specialty chemicals, microelectronics, electronic and advanced materials, polymers, business services, biotechnology, and environmental health and safety industries, among others.
Don't make the mistake of thinking that chemical engineers only “make things,” though. Their expertise is also applied in the areas of law, education, publishing, finance, and medicine, as well as in many other fields that require technical training.
http://www.aiche.org/community/students/career-resources-k-12-students-parents/what-do-chemical-engineers-do

COMPARED TO

What Does a Mechanical Engineer Do?

Mechanical engineers are typically involved with the generation, distribution, and use of energy; the processing of materials; the control and automation of manufacturing systems; the design and development of machines; and the solutions to environmental problems.
Mechanical engineers work on teams responsible for developing a wide range of products and systems including, for example, space shuttle vehicles, aircraft of all sizes and shapes, automobiles, turbines, pumps, power plants, and factories.
http://www.me.iastate.edu/jobs/what-does-a-mechanical-engineer-do/
Now tell me which one of them is directly involves in production or processes? let me break it down....these two work hand in hand but Chemical Engineer must always be around plants and monitor process/unit operation to make sure things run smothly base on his knowledge of Chemistry,maths, physics,and other applied sciences. A mech Engineer is about the planning(plant design which cant be done without the ChemENG),fabricate and do maintenance work when need be.But a chem eng on the other hand must be on ground 24/7 at the plant to manage it.Please read about the two oh.Am A chem Eng by the way,bulk of our works rarely involve fabrication,in fact we dont do workshop much.The Mechs does that.We research deeper on processes and productions,they dont do much in that aspect except if its on their machine .I did not really mean Mech Eng are not involves in production....they do infact they are there anywhere there is a machine but the Chemical Engineers are also known as process Engineer.Thanks

First off, I hope this discussion isn't a "Mechanical Engineer vs Chemical Engineer" argument. I wouldn't want to get into that kind of argument/discussion cos in most industries, no particular discipline is "stand-alone". Every discipline is just one vital part of a "whole" system.

That being said, I think you are misunderstanding my point. Let me give an illustration; if a graduate fresh off secondary school decides to study "Production Engineering", he would in actual fact be taking same courses with his Mechanical Engineering counterpart in another university. Check online for course outlines for "Production Engineering" and compare with that of "Mechanical Engineering".

Some schools refer to their Mechanical dept. as "Mechanical & Production" department (ill be amazed if you ever find a Chemical & Production department).

Secondly "Control & Automation" (usually referred to Instrumentation & Controls) is a post majorly occupied by Electrical Engineering graduates.

Please don't get confused with English translations of Engineering terminologies.

I can write a whole article with respect to the functions of a Mechanical and a Process Engineer in the oil and gas industry; and it will differ greatly with the stuffs you listed. It will be based on what I get to see on a daily basis.

Swiftboy:
Alright pal I just feel I should point out to some key points in this inspiring post of yours.
Chemical Engineering is the same as Process or Production Engineering. They have branches such as Petroleum,Petro-chemical,Oil-gas,Nuclear,Environmental Engineering etc. This branch of Engineering deals with any processing company. They research and develop.Contrary to what you said, Mechanical Engineers only fabricate plants equipments,the process/chemical Engineer design and manages plants of any industry

@bolded, I disagree with you. Chemical Engineering is not the same as Production Engineering. Production Engineering is more of Mechanical Engineering than Chemical Engineering. As a matter of fact some Unis call their Mech. depts "Mechanical & Production Engineering".

Also Mechanical Engineers do not only fabricate plants equipment!!! The internet is a really great place to learn.

Feraz:
It's funny how you just concluded that I think the Engineers in the oil/gas industry just sit there doing nothing. Did you see where I made reference to the mentality of undergraduates who posses this flawed thinking? But in your bid to point out my flaw, you left the first part of how the write-up was started.
Of course, there may be; I have no idea. All I wanted to do in this write-up was to point out the various fields we Engineers in the country can work on instead of many waiting to work in the oil/gas industry.
I never said I had the knowledge to all that happens in the oil/gas industry. I even alluded to my ignorance about the field in the original write-up. About the government issue, you are right on that but what efforts have we as Engineers made to make the government realize this problem facing us as a nation?
Another flawed assumptions on your part sir, making the same mistake you accused me of. Before I put this write-up, I went through the site for contents of both organisations to see if there was anything new but I was disappointed. No matter how little, they should keep their members informed. Of course, the ideas might be deluded in a country like Nigeria but people who want something different from the norm will agree with me. That being said, is anything wrong if a 3rd or 4th year undergraduate puts up the above because it sounds like no matter what they notice happening around them, they should suck it up; if someone who is frustrated with getting a job puts the above also, is anything wrong? At least, when we stop focusing on one particular commodity and diversify, I believe jobs will be created directly and indirectly and the person will barely have a reason to complain of lack of job.

Then again sir, did you read it till the end? If you did, you'd have seen this part - I made mention of my ignorance here, even Naijababe who works in the oil/gas industry and others saw where I alluded to it. You also hinted that I think only Petroleum Engineers are in the oil/gas industry when I also mentioned that other branches are needed as seen in the phrase bolded; if you didn't read to the end, it is sad that you did not hence your response.

I never said I know it all, neither am I insulting or making a snide remark on any profession. My aim is to help us rethink our priorities as Engineers, see the vast opportunities that abound in the profession and create a common front to achieve this. Thank you also for your numerous corrections.

So sorry if i insulted you in anyway sir, but you need to understand that this is a very touchy subject matter for me; and immediately i saw that line that said "engineers sit down in their offices doing nothing and yet get paid handsomely", I was just so pissed cos it became obvious that you knew very little of the subject matter.

I've seen and faced very crazy, dangerous and life threatening situations while on the line of duty, so you'll forgive me for taking this personally.
Needless to say (even after reading it all over) I still find many sections of your original post misleading.

Generally speaking its not right to make assertions about someones craft (no matter how much of it you think you know).

Truckpusher:
Op is a deluded fellow for thinking that Engineers in the Oil and Gas industry just sits in their offices doing nothing while the alerts keep coming.


The Oil and Gas Engineering jobs is a daunting task and requires you to be on top of your game every now and then as you would be working across the globe sometimes coming into contact and competing with people of different Nationalities and expertise and again the stress of working for an Oil and Gas major outfit is not for the faint hearted because for every kobo you get from them you probably worked your asss off to earn it.

When next you want to make your assertion, you need to do your home work properly before misleading the people in a public forum.

Nice write up though,but your insinuation about the Engineers in the oil and gas industry is the fallacy of the century.

Couldn't have said it any better.....

[quote author=Feraz post=27179192] Imagine sitting in the office most times doing nothing and at the end of the month, your phone rings and you see alert of N1.2m. I mean, who wouldn’t want to live the good life? Hahaha!!!” I totally disagree with you here sir. If you think Engineers in the Oil & Gas industry do absolutely nothing and yet get paid ridiculous amount of money then you really need to have a re-think.

I assume you do not work currently in the Oil & Gas industry, thats probably why its so easy to jump into unrealistic conclusions. There is a great deal of brain work involved here sir, and working conditions (depending on where one is posted) is'nt as "conducive" as you stated. Health risks is also involved in this line of duty (hence the high salary in most cases).

From the above, one wonders if the only branch of Engineering being studied in Nigeria is Petroleum Engineering. In my varsity, there are various branches which include – Mechanical, Electrical/Electronics, Civil, Chemical, Computer, Petroleum and Production Engineering. The same can be said of other universities in Nigeria as some offer other branches of Engineering in addition to the above. If various branches of Engineering is being offered, then why the oil/gas mentality? We have so focused in the oil/gas industries thereby leaving other branches to go comatose.

It will surprise you to know sir, that in terms of number, there are actually more Mechanical Engineers in the oil & gas industry than any other field of Engineering. As a matter of fact sir, there are actually more Elect-Elect Engineers than Petroleum Engineers in the industry. Try and do some research on this...

[b]Looking at Mechanical Engineering for example as that is my field, there are fields to specialize in like Robotics, Aerospace, Aeronautics, Energy, Automobile, Automotive, Marine etc. but you wonder why we do not have so many firms that focus on the above listed. Just recently, India joined the leagues of nations that have sent space probes to Mars and you wonder, where are the Mechanical Engineers in Nigeria? This same country also make various machines and export to nations and it was not long they started doing all these. USA has the likes of NASA, Boeing and other Engineering firms not related to the oil/gas industry. Japan the same with Toyota, Nissan, Kawasaki Heavy Industries etc. What about South Korea? We use their product Hyundai and they also design and build ships for nations. These are just few examples and they all have one thing in common, they are not related to the oil/gas industries. What crime is it if we as Mechanical Engineers come together and create our technology to match our climate while designing also, for other nations? [/b]

I happen to be a Mechanical Engineer too sir (with relevant working experience in different sectors - oil & gas included), and its really sad to see that a fellow Mechanical Engineer knows very little about this wonderful field. That being said, the focus on oil & gas in Nigeria has little to do with indigenous Engineers or Investors for that matter; its more of a governmental issue. The Agricultural Industry and many more noble industries are suffering same fate as we speak. The light issue is more than enough reason for Investors to think twice. Oil & Gas industries on the other hand wouldn't mind spending to power their industries, as the excesses would be transferred to the prices of oil in the market.

And do not get me started with the supposed Engineering bodies – COREN and NSE of which I honestly do not see their functions in Nigeria except to depend on government handout and bribe while forgetting their primary function which is to advance Engineering in Nigeria. I have not seen or heard of any event being sponsored by them to aid students’ interest in the field of Engineering. Check the contents of both websites and tell me what you think. Check the contents of the Energy Dept. of Nigeria. No news on innovation except the never-ending promises of the government.

Very surprising statement sir, especially with the "local content" act taking full effect. More indigenous Engineers are getting jobs for this singular act. Are you aware that "Saipem" was banned for violation of the Nigerian Oil and Gas Industry Content Development (NOGID) Act Research harder bro. If you do not know, simply ask. Are they performing superbly?? NO, but they are not as insignificant/usless as you make them seem.

Generally I think the OP is just a year 3rd or year 4th student (might not be an Engineering student), with deluded ideas about things he knows very little about. Or a recent graduate frustrated by his inability to hold down a job.. No offence meant here bro, but as Enlightening as you think this post is, it is very much flawed with absurd assumptions.

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yorex2011:
Please re-write your opening post. Its incomprehensible

I concur.

That being said I think you should weigh all your availabe options. I believe there are threads on Nairaland that can point you in the right direction.

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deewon56:
sir@xfire, i jst gain
admission into The
polythecnic,ibadan as
mechanical engineering wat
nxt du u think i should pursue
to achieve my Goal as
(automobile engr)??

Bro, I studied Mechanical Engineering too (although it wasn't in a poly). That being said i think you should focus on ensuring you see the course through (with good grades).

The opportunities are endless for a Mechanical Engineer (or any engineer for that matter).

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xfire:
It all depends on your discipline, the industry in focus and your career goals.
Taking engineering as an example, it is far more preferable in many instances to go for a masters than to get professional certifications.
For graduates with zero experience, oil companies will most likely choose masters degree holders over bachelors degree holders with professional certifications (assuming their performances at the interviews are all at par). A few notable firms in Nigeria also favour masters degree holders, eventhough the advert may simply state a minimum of BSc. Adverts doesn't always count. There is usually some level of PR considerations when putting up an advert, especially for big firms. It's the actual recruitment that matters at the end of the whole process.
The story is however different if you consider a course like accounting. A graduate with an ICAN or ACCA certification will most likely be placed over masters degree holder in accounting.
Another important consideration is that some fields require professional certification to be able to practice. In such fields, a masters may count for nothing.
That's why it's wise to consult widely before taking any step rather than making blanket conclusions that professional courses are better than masters degree, or vice versa.

Spot on @xfire..

For the Masters degree you mentioned with respect to Engineering field, the degree would preferable be from a foreign uni. MSc from a Nigerian Uni might not really give the person an edge.

Also fresh graduates must also consider whats obtainable at that very moment. ie A fresh graduate who wishes to go for a masters degree in a foreign university but has little or no money to do so; while applying for scholarships or trying to raise funds, twill be wise to really consider taking a professional course in a related field.

Just my opinion though..

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Castroii: Good day boss! I read mech engrg and I once worked as a vessel engr bt had 2 change my career path cos I dnt like d nature of my jab and also considering that I have age on my side. I am roughly a year plus in quality inspections( welding, n piping installations), and am familiar with some industrial codes and also trying 2 be proficient in ISO QMS standards, I can also interprete piping n instrumentation diagrams to an xtent bt my question is do I really nid 2 learn abt any of these softwares like pdms n co, do I really nid dem considering dt am also into piping inspections? (NB:I already have my cwi and asnt certifications).....thanks

Hi,

I read Mechanical Engineering too sir (its the "awesomest" course in the world )

Do you need to learn DESIGN softwares??

The software is completely design based, restricting you to design roles. Its alot easier for someone with your experience to switch to a design role (say piping designer), than the other way around; As a vessel engineer i'm sure you'll be very familiar with pressure vessel codes like PD5500, ASME SEC VII DIV-1,2&3 etc. You are even expected to know more about these codes compared to your design counterparts. Pressure Vessel designers/engineers care less about NDT, PWHT, and other cool stuffs listed in the WRC codes.

In my opinion NO. There's no need to learn any of these softwares (you should know AutoCAD though, its the least you can do) Only if you are considering a total change in career path (in my opinion you'll be crazy to ditch QAQC for any design role, considering how far you've gone already).

I read a statistical survey some years ago, about various engineering fields and their hierarchical salary structure; QAQC was on top of that list for almost every level (from trainee upward). No jokes...

If I was interviewing for a QAQC role, your knowledge of PDMS et al is completely irrelevant to me...

Do some research bro, you'll see things clearer.

All the best.

Awesome group.

BSc. Mechanical Engineering (UNILAG), currently working as a Mechanical (Static & Rotating) & Piping Engineer.

Also involved in career development for recent Engineering graduates.

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Some interesting Engineering Softwares.....

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[quote author=xfire]2sexi, 2sexy1, crudedude. Here is the response:

For instance, I will use the example of AutoCAD and PDMS that you talked about. It is not enough to know those softwares. You will need to understand how and when to use and apply them in engineering problems. That comes with experience. Piping design comes with experience. You also have to understand the relevant codes (e.g. ANSI 31.3, ANSI 31.4, ANSI 31.8, API 5L, ASTM A106, etc). You can't learn it all on your own in your room or by going for a training. It takes understanding to know what set of data and code to use and how to use them. It ain't like web design or programming that can be easily learnt off the streets. Having the software is not enough. Remember, it's 'garbage in, garbage out' in the computer world.

Moreover, many organizations develop their unique softwares to solve their engineering problems. The industry is technology driven and whoever is ahead in terms of technology makes more profit. For instance, all the most big oil players have their unique reservoir simulation softwares, while some have their own preferences. Same for process simulation softwares, though many firms prefer to use Aspen HYSYS or Aspen Plus. Oil servicing companies generally make more use design softwares such as 2D/3D AutoCAD, PDMS, Caesar II, etc. Oil producing firms do not use them as much.

Spot on xfire.

I hear lots of people talk about PDMS like its some life changing software (i.e you learn it and you automatically become some serious hot cake). The truth is, like i shared sometime ago, there are many people (both engineering & non engineering graduates) who have learnt, is learning or planning to learn these softwares; and sorry to say many wont break into the oil & gas industry. Thats just the bitter truth.

Lemme break it down alittle, using the software you mentioned (PDMS). Although its a modelling software, the user will need some deep understanding of piping engineering with concepts like "schedule of a pipe, type of flange/branched fittings, pipe material selection & corrosion prevention (adequate/appropriate corrosion allowances with respect to the piping code, eg ASME B31.3), support placement, jacketed piping systems, pipe insulation for cold service (insulation material selection e.g PTFE), UPVC piping, FRP pipes, material classification and pound ratings (150#, 600# etc), I could go on and on and on..... PDMS assumes the user is already familiar with all these concepts as well as when and how to properly use them. This makes it difficult for employers to base their selection of a prospective employee based on his mere knowledge of a software.

Yes, it is very much possible to get a job after learning these softwares (I have friends who were very lucky to get jobs with zero experience) after learning PDMS. I also know loads of people who have become so good using these softwares (they even make a living, teaching others) and are still very much looking to break into the O&G industry. Ever ask your self why most times, the person teaching you PDMS (as good as he is) is yet to break into the O&G industry?

Generally, people should'nt see the learning of these softwares as a "sure thing", as it takes much more than the mere knowledge of how the software works to convince employers.

Another thing to note (like xfire pointed out) different companies have their preference.....
eg SHELL prefers Bentley AutoPlant (i'm currently involved in some of SPDC's project, so I know this for a fact). AutoPlant does practically the same thing as PDMS; the same with PDS, AutoCAD Plant 3D, Solid works etc, they can successfully replace PDMS anytime - anyday; hence your knowledge of PDMS might not be useful to some employers. Same with other softwares like Caesar II (some companies prefer AutoPipe), FingLow (other companies prefer PV Elite, AutoPipe Vessel etc).

Another confusion people do have is with the use of the term "oil and gas industry". No IOC or NOC will employ you based on your skills in some design software package. At best you'll be looking to break into the much smaller "servicing companies"; which in my opinion are better referred to as "Engineering companies" and not O&G companies (save for the Halliburton, Baker Hughes and those not too far off from the IOC's and NOC's).

This is not meant to discourage anyone. Ild rather let people know the hard felt truth, rather than give false hope.
Everything is possible.


Cheers.

Hugo70: As a graduate of Industrial physics, wit work exp not related to oil n gas or construction coy. Pls watz d best certification that will give me best opportunity in construction n oil n gas. And probably d cost pls.

Ever heard of instrumentation & Controls Engineering?

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Hi,

Please lets try and take note of some of the key words xfire used in his post. "Misconception" i.e views that are incorrect based on faulty thinking or understanding. And i honestly think this applies mostly to fresh graduates, as they have a very faulty mentality about securing a job.

That been said, I do not think xfire is trying to imply that getting a masters degree, getting certifications or having connections cannot get fresh grads their dream jobs (else ill be forced to vehemently disagree with all three points ). However, I agree 100% with what has been listed, based on the mere fact that most graduates look towards getting certifications, getting an MSc. or having connections before working and improving basic writing, interview computer and communication skills.

Having an MSc is great (I plan on getting mine soon), same with getting relevant certifications, but neither can hide or cover up for a graduates' frailties on the basic employable skills.

"You need not have excellent computer skills – just basic" - I had the opportunity of meeting loads and loads of Nigerian graduates (from reputable Nigerian Unis), during my service year, who fall into this category; Its really sad that some Nigerian graduates do not have basic computer skills. Really really sad.

Lastly, about the MSc. thingy, there are loads and loads of Nigerian grads with Masters degree from reputable university (Nigerian and foreign), who are still very much jobless. This is particularly common in the Oil & Gas industry, as most employers will favour experience above degree. I shared in an earlier post about one of my mentees. He had his BSc and MSc degree in a reputable university in the UK (name withheld ), he is currently having his internship (very embarrassing pay) with the company I work for, and is currently working under my supervision. Truths be told, I was and still am a little disappointed with his technical "know-how". I expected alot more with all the caliber of degrees he currently possesses.

Loads of truth in here.

Thumbs up xfire.

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Thanks.

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Please I need your wisdom; I am currently in my final year studying for a B Tech in Project Management Technology. I would love to know what "extra things" to do or acquire to boost my chances of securing a job in the oil and gas industry. The buzz in my department right now is about acquiring a professional qualification like PMI's CAPM or PMP. Your insights will be very appreciated. Thank you.
By the way I am currently on a 2:1 standing.

First off, I never knew it was even possible to have a first degree in Project Management. That been said, I guess you should be looking at three major key areas that are also "BIG" in the oil and gas industry (although they didnt make Xfire's list ).

1. Project Department
2. Planning Department
3. Cost Controls Dept.

Lemme break it down alittle.. Most Oil and Gas companies, prefer to have Engineering graduates occupy their project departments, and the hierarchy in this department doesnt really favor graduates with non-engineering background. Most project Managers start off as "Project Engineers" or discipline engineers (Mechanical, Electrical, IC&A, subsea engineers etc) before making the climb-up to the "Manager" status.

In order words, your P.M.I, CAPM or P.M.P with zero experience and zero engineering acumen just wont cut it (for most oil and gas companies).

Cost controls department on the other hand is absolutely rare, as a matter of fact i've only heard of this position in SPDC and SNEPCO (dont know how true though), but ive seen for my self, these dept in some companies servicing SPDC. Its a very delicate department and (based on my little research) only people with extremely vast experience in Project management and Planning occupy these positions.

That leaves us with "Planning" department. In my opinion this is probably your best bet, to breaking into the oil & Gas industry (with respect to your 1st degree that is). Although (as expected most planners have engineering background), I know some "Planning Engineers" with zero engineering experience, making big bucks in the oil and gas industry.

I would advice you go learn the "PRIMAVERA" software (and may be MS-PROJECT) to boost your chances, as this is the number one software mostly used in these departments.

Except you want to venture into other areas like H.S.E, Safety etc, I believe to a very large extent that these areas i've highlighted, are probably the ones you should look to break into.

All the best sire....

factorial1: Sir, as you've mentioned above... I'm currently studying Physics Electronics in a University. Please, do I have an edge in the O & Gas sector without doing my M.Sc in any engineering related courses? And sir, what are the likely certifications that I need to acquire as an undergraduate of Physics Electronics? Thanks in anticipation as I await your reply.
Note sir: Expected to graduate at age 22.

Do you have an edge in the oil and gas sector without an MSc.?? Definately, you do. As a matter of fact about 80 to 85% of Engineers (based on my little findings) in the industry, do not have a masters degree. Save for most servicing companies that (sometimes) prefer employing graduates with MSc, most companies careless whether you have an MSc or not. As a matter of face, one of "mentees" had his BSc and MSc. in the UK and he is learning dilligently under my supervision (I've never left the shores of Naija and I dont even have an MSc).

Truth is, i'm kinda a little disappointed at how little the kid knows, with all the degrees.

There is an up-coming course in Lagos on "Instrumentation Automation & Control Engineering", i suggest you try and make yourself available for the course (especially with your background in Physics & Electronics, its more needed for you as Elect/Elect graduates usually stand a better chance).

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addictiv:
Thanks so much, however after carrying out research based on my capabilities and understanding of the three areas. As well as the little background experience i have from my undergraduate days, i have decided to focus on drilling and pursue a career in drilling engineering. Although picking a good school with world class standards and international recognition In US,Canada and Australia seems to be tricky when considering the pedigree of these countries in O&G activities globally. I have a 2,2 of 3.30/5 with no experience since am a fresh graduate and still in my early twenties. Really appreciate your suggestions.

Bros, with your 2.2 it will be alot tricky o. I know a friend who was denied admission both in Aberdeen (he didnt have the required work experience) and in Australia - Curtin University (he had 2.1 - 3.55, which was low in their opinion), he was also unable to apply to a reputable Canadian School (name withheld) as they found him ineligible for a masters degree program (they really doubt some of our Nigerian Unis).

Im not trying to discourage you though as my friend is in Newcastle Uni now studying Pipeline Engineering. You still need serious research.

Your best bet might still be UK. As long as you have your school fees, they are ever read ;Dy.

All the best though.

Hugo70: I studied Industrial Physics, wit work exp not wit oil n gas company or related. Pls wat r d best course to certified wit to make me relevant to work wit oil n gas, apart from safetly course. I mean d very best. @@@Xfire n co.pls

Interest is key here. With your background in physics, I would suggest a course in I.C&A engineering (to learn and understand the basics like, reading & interpreting P&IDs, Control valve sizing, Various types of sensor measuring techniques and application requirements. etc). You can also try improving your software design skills (autoCAD, PDMS), as you can also get a job as an instrumentation & Control or Electrical Designer (twill be a little tough though, as almost every engineering/non-engineering graduate has learnt, is learning or is planning to learn these software).

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