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So Nigeria U20 casually lost 4 nil to Argentina in the ongoing world cup and no is talking about it

raumdeuter:
Bateng was in Central defence, Messi was advancing the ball, there was a DM near Messi but instead of Boateng retreating and running from Messi or pointing to others, he went with a tackle and won the ball for his team

Thus aborting any move by Messi to either shoot from there or pass the ball

That is how world cup and trebles are won

Why are you replying that post? A gif as clear as daylight, but agenda won't allow him to see the similarities.

It is easier to wake someone asleep than someone pretending to be asleep.

Android17:
Make CFC fans leave me out of una in-house DM debate.

Caicedo is unlocking Enzo as Lavia unlocks Caicedo.

But I, as a CF fan, told you that Caicedo is our DM as long as Lavia is out. Why were you arguing?

Android17:
Enzo, Lavia.

So Enzo is our DM?

Brooooooooooo!

Android17:
The player(s) you bought to replace Jorginho.

Being?

Android17:
I understand positional play. Caicedo is a CM. Because he focuses on breaking plays, intercepting & making tackles doesn't mean he is a DM. Even wingers have defensive assignments doesn't make them WBs.

That's why Scholes isn't quick to crown Caicedo the best this season. We all can see he's brilliant with ball-winning but we want to see him consistently execute the other functions of a MIDFIELDER like Tonali for e.g.

Stop turning amala. The discussion was best midfielder this season not who defends better between Caicedo and Gravenberch. Gravenberch is a CM as well.

Who is Chelsea's DM?

Android17:
Caicedo isn't a DM.

No dey turn amala. Stand straight.

As long as Lavia is not in the team, Caicedo is the DM.

Ever wondered why the comparison is always Caicedo vs Gravernbach?

Android17:
This is straight from JK Rowling. Imaginary stuff.

This isn't even analysis.

There's a white line drawn that Kerkez is trying to maintain with VVD. As long as that line is maintained Caicedo cannot attempt a pass because the Liverpool defense will push up to keep him [Gusto] off. Flick uses it alot. It's operation keep him [Gusto] offside or force him [Moses] to shoot from distance.

That's what PSG tried to do for the 3rd CFC goal but Berardo (having not played 1st team football for a while) broke that line and Palmer was clever to slip Joao Pedro through.

One minute you go cap useless the next minute you go too make sense.

This analysis up there is spot on. That's what I've been trying to explain to Silentgroper.

There's no way Kerkez won't neutralise Gusto in that frame. VVD should simply handle Caicedo. But he won't. He has a "never dribbled past" record to maintain.

Android17:
Very Airmarkian. Comparing a former DEFENDER turned pundit, to one of the GOATs of midfielders when MIDFIELDERS are being discussed.

Imagine pitting a commentator's hot take vs a credentialed assessment of an expert in their specific field. Meanwhile, I'm the one leaning on the expert...
Again, like your nemesis, you run behind making "passionate" defenses for your arguments but when scrutinized they appear imprecise & gaping in logic.

In one breath, look at Neville and his CV, in another breath, no one needs to have a CV to have an opinion.

This is a laughable use of selective credentialism. Imagine extolling Gary who romanticizes the defensive contributions of players, while dismissing the positional expertise of Paul that actually enriches analysis & insight. You're bold, but I don't envy you.

The irony and utter hypocrisy. If positions are irrelevant, why specify "professional defender" in the challenge? It contradicts the "universal footballer" ethos. But you wouldn't know because you're looking for gotchas when you should have been looking for logic.

Come to think of it, is Paul Scholes a defensive midfielder? what right does he have to say who the best defensive midfielder is?

As you wan cap, make all of us cap nah

raumdeuter:
I read and laughed, Its everyones fault except for VVD who chose to turn nyansh

As in...

raumdeuter:
See how Boateng charged at the attacker as he was about to shoot instead of waiting for the DM or someone else to do it. Boateng could have retreated forme activity claiming he was tracking the run of another player but he took charge of the situation That is how defenders take charge and take responsibilities not pointing at others.

https://j.gifs.com/m2Gobx.gif

Thank you for this gif.

How people defend VVD is beyond me. Popizaino is talking as if a CB cannot come out and neutralise a danger. Must it be Mcallister that must tackle Caicedo there? It's just a question of timing your move very well, VVD could have neutralise Caicedo while Kerkez cover Gusto.

But it's VVD, he can do no wrong.

Android17:
You and Peter Obi have the same advisers.

If you think Gary Neville will have an opinion on midfielders vs Apostle Paul.

Again, rest.

Football is football. A footballer is a footballer.

Gary Neville have played, sleep and eat football all his life. No one needs to play a particular position to have an opinion on it.

Mr. Know It All, were you a professional defender to know who is better between Hakimi and James?

popizaino:
I blame Governor siminalayi fubara for not cutting the Internet in Port-Harcourt today because what's all this?

This is how you were turning amala all over the place and raumdeuter is flogging you in the Chelsea vs Bayern discussion few days ago.

You will just be capping upandan.

popizaino:
Wetin Gary Nevile a defender want to know about a midfielder?

Can he know better than the one who is a legend from the same position?

What's all this for God sake timbro?

Something dey worry you for brain. So a professional footballer who played football for more than 2 decades, retired and became a coach and pundit... Basically immersed himself in football all his life won't know a thing about midfield because he was a defender? Are you okay like this?

And yet you are here faulting coaches who play a left footer in the right wing. Who are you to fault them? Where is your coaching badge?

Silentgroper:
Thw problem is you keep using running away when he was basically just closing in on gusto ..

Yes , that opened a pathway for caicedo to shoot.. The thing is shooting from outside is a 50/50 situation.. it can go in and it might not , 2.. There is a keeper that could also decide the situation depending on how good he is ..

But if he had gone on to stop caicedo from shooting, he leaves gusto open and and the situation becomes a 80/20 situation .. Nothing kerkez would have done there would stop gusto from shooting and if he gets to physical, na penalty for gusto..

Vvd made the the most logical move only the odds were in Chelsea's favour ..

McAllister was the only man that should have made a quick move to interfere with caicedo shooting but he didn't ..

50/50 there is a keeper. 80/20 no keeper? Lol.

The problem is you believing Kerkez cannot mark Gusto but Mcallister could have stopped Caicedo.

But continue.

Silentgroper:
oga use the images to analyze the situation and see for yourself..

This is suppose to be basic knowledge if you're football inclined..

You'd think he'd expose gusto alone with kerkez in which gusto could easily body kerkez..

Incase caicedo gave a pass to gusto VVD is the only player that wll outrightly stop gusto without causing further harms up the pitch ..

McAllister looked like he still had a chance to make a sliding tackle cross caicedo as he took that ball shoot ..

Oga look pictures wella and analyse , no just dey yarn dust

This is where you are getting everything wrong: using picture/image to analyse football.

Anyone can pause a video in a particular sequence that supports his narrative, screenshot it and use it in an argument. If you want to analyse a situation we'll, watch the video. Do not depend on picture. It will deceive you.

You should be praising Caicedo's brilliance to take VVD off his shooting path. He used body feint, a bit similar to what Palmer did against PSG in the final. Go watch the video again.

VVD should have stood his ground and wait for Caicedo's move. Initially, Caicedo was dressing the ball, not sure if to shoot or pass, but VVD made his job easier by running away and the rest is history.

It's funny that you expect Mcallister to get to Caicedo more than Kerkez getting to Gusto.

Android17:
Paul Scholesy.

Rest.

Gary Nevile

Silentgroper:
oga caicedo wasn't his man .. at that position gusto was his man ..

McAllister is who should've stopped caicedo ..

Una Sha go wan fit say anything to run THE WORLD BEST CB DOWN ..
See the gap between him and caicedo .. how CB go dey lap back to go block caicedo .. if he did then and caicedo gives gusto the ball .. there's no way kerkez is stopping gusto from shooting but Pictures VVD there , except gusto cuts inward, he is not getting a shot past VVD..

If VVD a CB is Gusto a RB man, what is Kerkez then doing in the pitch? Are you okay like this?

Gusto's pass to Caicedo completely took off Mcallister and all he was doing is catchup to Caicedo. Kerkez is covering Gusto. VVD is the defender to come out and prevent Caicedo from taking a shot.

But in his usual fashion, he is looking for who to cover him up in the name of aura defending.

AbokiWam:
As you no sabi Maths

I been wan leave you before but let me xpose you

Check the picture below, Kerkez was close to Gusto

There is no way Van dijk would have gotten there first

He was running away from dribble, you de here wan cook lie

I haven't seen this your post sef before I replied him. Gusto that Kerkez was covering... They are looking for excuse for that shambolic VVD defending.

Silentgroper:
To those ones that won't allow van dijk rest ..

Now you see the reason for the posture he attained...


He's still the best CB out there . Nothing no one say would change that..

Did you watch the game? Go and watch it again and take note of where Kerkez is and use your own brain to know whose man Gusto is, VVD or Kerkez.

Anything una see for twitter una just copy and paste..

raumdeuter:
Who is using timbros account to play this game

How can a sure gbef like timbros dey win week after week

E no make sense

See me at the top next GW when you and Gandoki Tshabalala play out a draw and I trash Emaprince.

You dey fortunate to mistakenly win me. If not na 100% run I for dey now.

airmark:
When you want to lie, you won't mention my moniker. Na out of the red be this?



Anyways, Arsenal with the best defence in the league couldn't beat Liverpool, but we did, with makeshift CBs.

The so-called useless defence won't stop disgracing you.

Stop being in a hurry to type. Do you even know the difference between "how many times..." and "have I ever..."? Your level of comprehension this days is alarming honestly. Do you want us to compare the number of times I mention you to the number of times you mention me?

If your ambition ends in just beating Liverpool, sorry for you. Anyone who truly loves Chelsea FC will envy Arteta's position in the league right now. Can our makeshift defence propel us to the summit like Arteta's well drilled defence is doing for him currently?

I'm done with you and your bot. You can hide this again.

MorataFC:
Who even still dey read their posts?
The moment I see Airmark replying to Timbros or Timbros replying to Airmark, I just swipe past.
But if it is any other post from them that is not directed to each other, I read them. We’ve already appealed to both of them to let the argument go it has dragged on longer than necessary. We even acknowledged that they both have valid points, yet they are still looking for overall winner, when honestly, no winner will come out of it. 😂😂😂

Time without number, the attention seeker never leaves my mention. Abi you go say you no dey see am? How many times have you seem me mention him out of the blue?

airmark:
Gibberish as usual, i had to delete most.

How did we become the World champions without fixing your so-called major issue - defence? I hope you will not join those idiots saying we won it because of fatigue.

When did you realise Lavia, a defensive midfielder, was our issue?

airmark:
Let's clear the bush you left in the past. Are you really a Chelsea fan with this post below?

Even Raumdeuter will not want to watch loads and loads of Jakujaku Jackson as he will not pray for a Kane's injury.

Did you or did you not see loads of Jackson "come next season" after that comment?

What is happening to you bro? I hope all is well upstairs. Because I don't understand this your erratic posts.

Didn't you see loads of Jackson "next season"?

airmark:
I have started ignoring him.

Lavia returned and we saw how he helped the team, but Timbros wants him to remain injured, so that he can say we are losing because we didn't sign new defenders.

You and Mikel don't know what you want.

So it's been Lavia, a defensive midfielder, all this while but you are spamming the thread for like 2 years that attack was our major problem?

I have always told you that we need to concede less and score more: balance. But you blatantly disagreed, that attack is the problem. Now we have worked on the attack and still having problems. It is now you remember Lavia.

Lavia have been here since 2023. Tell me how many time you have mentioned Lavia or defensive midfield as our problem? So you just realise it last week?

Like Mikel like Airmark.

The same thing with Mikel attacking Jackson left right center constantly as our problem. Jackson is out of the way now and he suddenly realise that defence win you titles.

Both of you have a very big issue.

Why will I want a defensive player to continue being injured when I keep drumming it in your ear that our major issue is defence?

Ibime:
He done dey rise your BP again

You no see as I dey expose him lie upandan

Emaprince:
Airmark and Timbros just dey occupy spaces everywhere here.

That guy na chronic liar.

airmark:
Let's clear the bush you left in the past. Are you really a Chelsea fan with this post below?

Even Raumdeuter will not want to watch loads and loads of Jakujaku Jackson as he will not pray for a Kane's injury.

At what point in Liverpool's game yesterday did I mention your moniker?

airmark:
What did you do with the numerous proofs I posted in the past?

You once claimed you didn't ask us not to replace Jakujaku Jackson, I brought proof, you went mute. You denied that you didn't ask Chelsea not to sign another LW, I brought out proof, you became quiet.

You will soon ask me where you said I shouldn't have mentioned Lavia, among the players we were missing. Na to dey ignore you now.

When did I mention you during Liverpool game?

Airmark Mr. Liar

Why are you hiding again? Didn't you see my post? Can you bring evidence of when I mentioned you during Liverpool game?

You refuse to show me where I said Lavia never played 3 consecutive matches for us. Now you don't want to show me where I mentioned you during Liverpool game.

Why are you like this?