₦airaland Forum

andromida:
jst keep acting like a christian no need to tell your parents you do not believe in God. so you can keep the peace.Your Dad proly did not preach to you when you were doing the gal he prollly was thinking boys will be boys.or as most men are was finding it not so easy to talk to you about such issues.be a better person to let them knw its not being a believer that makes you all that and gives you character,its loving your neighbour as yourself and the desire to be a good person.

I believe in God,I hope you find him someday soon.

I wish i know your name so i could add you to my list of people that i pray for,i have a younger brother like you sometime back he lost faith after alot of praying and waiting on God.God touched him.I am not a perfect believer but i know there is a God.Aaagh hope i havnt sermonised you.

I appreciate the fact that you answered logically and sensibly without trying to force your belief on me. That's quite a rare quality to find among Naija Christians. Thanks

BrOwn*Suga:
the end is here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nah. You'll be dead for at least a thousand years before it gets here.

Inked_Nerd:

No problem. Nice meeting you by the way. You're the first Nigerian atheist that I've met [ever]

First Nigerian atheist you ever met?! I actually thought NL had a populous amount of them. Nice meeting you too though

@poster Do you think we should also obey all the following?


Don't let cattle graze with other kinds of Cattle (Leviticus 19:19)

Don't have a variety of crops on the same field. (Leviticus 19:19)

Don't wear clothes made of more than one fabric (Leviticus 19:19)

Don't cut your hair nor shave. (Leviticus 19:27)

Any person who curseth his mother or father, must be killed. (Leviticus 20:9)  Have you ever done that?

If a man cheats on his wife, or vise versa, both the man and the woman must die. (Leviticus 20:10).  I wonder if Dr. Laura would like that one to be enforced?

If a man sleeps with his father's wife,  both him and his father's wife is to be put to death. (Leviticus 20:11)

If a man sleeps with his wife and her mother they are all to be burnt to death.  (Leviticus 20:14)

If a man or woman has sex with an animal, both human and animal must be killed. (Leviticus 20:15-16).  I guess you should kill the animal since they were willing participants.  Are they crazy?

If a man has sex with a woman on her period, they are both to be "cut off from their people" (Leviticus 20:18)

Psychics, wizards, and so on are to be stoned to death.  (Leviticus 20:27)

If a priest's daughter is a LovePeddler, she is to be burnt at the stake.  (Leviticus 21:9)

People who have flat noses, or is blind or lame, cannot go to an altar of God (Leviticus 21:17-18)

Anyone who curses or blasphemes God, should be stoned to death by the community.  (Leviticus 24:14-16)

Don't let cattle graze with other kinds of Cattle (Leviticus 19:19)

Anyone who dreams or prophesizes anything that is against God, or anyone who tries to turn you from God, is to be put to death. (Deuteronomy 13:5)

If anyone, even your own family suggests worshipping another God, kill them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)

If you find out a city worships a different god, destroy the city and kill all of it's inhabitants,  even the animals. (Deuteronomy 13:12-15)

Kill anyone with a different religion. (Deuteronomy 17:2-7)


I swear the bible is one sick book

NAJALYN:
I see you have joined the atteists in our Society at such a tender age. What, if I may ask, is responsible for your unbelief? God  gave you life, gave you caring parents who could afford to send you Abroad. Your parents believe in God, but you do not. So you think you should sleep, wake up, eat & do every other thing daily & forget about God? In fact you are already doing that. Do you know that God who gave you life can withdraw that life from you should you continue life aimlessly the way you are already doing? We are not talking about your dad's thread to send you back to Nigeria now. We are talking about punishment of sins  by death. Your parents want you to improve on your spiritual life hence they want you to go to Church. I appeal to you to start going to Church and know more about God. Change for good because God is the protection we all have. He is all you will ever need to make it in life. God be with you always & make you know Him & work for Him, Amen.

*yawn*
You lost me at "atteists" (which by the way is spelt 'atheists')

Seun:
Just pretend you're a Christian until you graduate.  Apologize for not going and promise to go next week.  Since they don't live close pretending for a few years won't be hard at all.  Go to church on Sunday. Read your bible and tell them you pray.

Under no circumstances should you make the mistake of telling them you don't believe; they will mess up your life and education with their efforts to force you to "return to God".  Just tell them you're sorry and do your best to make them feel you're now on the "right track".  Good luck.

Thanks a lot. I'll try my best to do all you said. Can't stomach the bible though.

Inked_Nerd:

Look sweetie, there's nothing wrong with you not believing. If ya don't believe then ya don't believe. Its not something that should be forced down your throat. I hate talking to my family about religion and God because all they seem to want to do is force their beliefs down people's throat. I remember talking to my cousin about my views on certain things and based on the words I was using, they kinda got had an idea where  the conversation was going and used EXTREME methods to try and discourage me from finishing my sentences. In the end I basically told them that my religious[b]/[/b]non-religious beliefs were my business and my business alone and they have no right to try to force their views own my or anyone else's throat. If they have a problem with it them they can all go jump off a bridge for all I care. I think what your father may be afraid of is the fact that he thinks that this country is a country of heathens so he wants you to follow the word of God as a means of staying on the "right track". With all honesty, I think you just need to swallow your pride and pretend to be a believer until you finish up with school at least then you'll have your education and can move on with your life and not worry about things like this. When I spent the summer at a college in the New England area here in the US, despite the fact there was a church on site on the school, not once did I go. Not going to church didn't make me an evil person. I still volunteered and helped out at the school, still got my work done, stayed out of trouble and had a wonderful [and safe] time. For now, just keep your views and your opinions about your religious/non religious views to yourself till your done with school--Yes, you'd be living a lie by acting as though you are a believer but you must keep in mind that in the long run it is for the sake or your education and for now the peace of your family.

Interesting experience. Great advice. Thanks man. You guys are life savers.

Many people believe saggin pants is an inherently wrong and silly act/fashion fad. Most of them argue that pant sagging originated from prison where it meant the ‘sagger’ was willing to have butt sex with anybody that might be interested. Some others, mostly Nigerian, think it is a bad American habit and for that reason alone, is wrong.

Well for me, I sag my pants because sometimes, while I'm neither doing nor thinking of anything sexually related, I get these really nasty erections that just won't die down, so I just have to sag my pants to hold Mr Bulge in. I tried wearing boxer-briefs, but I just couldn't stand the discomfort they gave me, so pant sagging just had to come to the rescue.

To people that argue about the homoerotic nature of sagging: Are male skinny jeans also gay since they show a man's butt shape? If they are, how come nobody complained back in the day when men wore those Elvis Presley/Fela type pants (those pants that were extremely tight at the waist and flared at the bottom)?

Also what truth does the homosexual prisoners story hold? If sagging signified gayness, wouldn't all inmates would be gay since they don’t all wear belts and thus their pants can fall below their waist level at any time

Just my opinion though, what do you think?

You were likely less than 18 here! When popsie found out why h*ll didn't peel your back skin with his leather belt? (as I would have done!).

Exactly my point. Why now?

ZIM DRILL:
you got two choices from my point of view

1 dance along the church thing to make them happy and keep peaces

2 tell them the truth but prove them wrong by being a better person

1. I would really love to, but like I said earlier, I'm really bad at pretending and sucking up to them would probably drive me insane.

2. That's what I want to do, but I'm afraid they might immediately order me back to Nigeria without allowing me to prove I'm a better person

Many people believe saggin pants is an inherently wrong and stupid act/fashion fad. Most of them argue that pant sagging originated from prison where it meant the ‘sagger’ was willing to have butt sex with anybody that might be interested. Some others, mostly Nigerian, think it is a bad American habit and for that reason alone, is wrong.

Well for me, I sag my pants because sometimes, while I'm neither doing nor thinking of anything sexually related, I get these really nasty erections that just won't die down, so I just have to sag my pants to hold Mr Bulge in. I tried wearing boxer-briefs, but I just couldn't stand the discomfort they gave me, so pant sagging just had to come to the rescue.

To people that argue about the homoerotic nature of sagging: Are male skinny jeans also gay since they show a man's butt shape? If they are, how come nobody complained back in the day when men wore those Elvis Presley/Fela type pants (those pants that were extremely tight at the waist and flared at the bottom)?

Also what truth does the homosexual prisoners story hold? If sagging signified gayness, wouldn't all inmates would be gay since they don’t all wear belts and thus their pants can fall below their waist level at any time

Just my opinion though, what do you think?

I am currently a college student in the US and my parents, especially my dad, have been really paranoid, afraid something would ‘destroy my life’ here.

Whenever we speak on phone, all they ever want to know is how much I read my bible and pray. I don't believe in God, but I usually go to church with my cousin to ‘socialize’; one day she wasn’t around to take me, so I stayed home. When my dad called that day and I told him I didn’t go to church, he flipped his lid, scolding me for being able to make my way to school but not to church (to think that before I left Nigeria, he told me the ONLY reason I was going to the states was to study). He afterwards threatened to bring me back to Nigeria (he still does almost every time we speak).

The thing is even while I was in Nigeria, I had a girlfriend whom I constantly made out with (in other words, I was a ‘sinner’); my dad knew about it, but never talked about it to me. Why is it now so much of a bother to them if I do or don’t believe in God or act like I do?

Anyways, whenever we talk on the phone, they deem it necessary to give me thirty minute sermons and I just want to scream at them telling them to leave me the bleep alone. I'm very bad at pretending and that kind of talk drives me real close to insanity.

I feel if I tell them I don’t believe in God, they would stop preaching to me and criticizing every single thing I do and spend more time praying for me. On the other hand, my dad might actually fulfill his threat and bring me back to Nigeria to study (like it would make any difference to what I believe or choose not to believe in). So now I’m wondering should I tell them or not?

P.S. I'm just 18, if that makes any difference.

OMG
you have no idea how pumped up I am from seeing this!! I was just thinking of how cool cartoons for Naija kids would be, then I see this! This is pretty awesome,

I totally disagree with the guy that said they aren't dressed like typical naija kids. What are typical Naija kids dressed like? in leaves or only underwear?

I know the show's still in its beginning stage, but If i may ask OP, what plans do you have for airing?
You also said this was the first episode, is this gonna be the typical length? I would think it'll be longer

GOOD JOB THO

Navy PH in the house? y'all know that school was the shyt, I swear I can write a thousand-page book on all the shyt man had to endure in that craphole

for starters

- I was made to sleep on a bare metal bunk while a senior slept on my mattress

- I had to pin my head on concrete parade ground for at least 30 mins before bedtime (lights out) every night for one term.

- One time, I was made to give up my bunk for some random senior and then had to sleep with my mattress on the floor. Then in the middle of the night, while I was asleep, some other senior yanked my mattress out from underneath me. When I complained, he effing slapped me!

- I never went through one whole day without getting flogged at least once

- our prefects were supplied with fresh new 'koboko' whips EVERY MONDAY!, nuff said

- Our drenches were full of years of decayed shyt (including urine, bath water, occasional feces, etc) that had turned totally black, imagine rolling in all that stuff, yeah they made us do it (btw those things had some extremely big as$ mosquitos, )

- what would all this be if I forget to mention that our toilets were bad and we had to pound shyt down them when they got full (picture FAT toilet flies buzzing around, horrid smell killing your organs and liquidy shyt splashing all around) eww!!!! *pukes*

Okay nuff said

kellybaba:
The militarised culture that has come to shape the mentality of most Nigerians following years of debilitating military rule did find ts way in to the universities leading to a culture of violence and brigandage instead of dialogue and harmony.This coupled with the hardship and difficulties in the Country has worsened matters and has turned our under-grads into 'militants in academic gowns'.
Please Mr Timmy or whatever you call yourself,i think you should abandon this conflagration you are romancing with.The culture here is nautical miles apart from obtains in North America.
[b]Meanwhile,we can think of ways of re-building the moral decadence in schools by patnering with genuine religious bodies.[/b]A nation without morality and conscience is a time-bomb waiting to go off at any time.
Thanks all the same for sparing some good thot for dear fatherland all the way from the US

while i understand the causes and effects of the years of hardship poverty and widespread corruption on Nigeria's youth, i totally disagree with the solution you propose (in bold). It's definitely worse than mine, what defines a genuine religious body? every religious body claims its beliefs are genuine and every other religion's are delusions. also, to my knowledge, there're at least 50 religious organizations or 'fellowships' in every Nigerian university, what effect have they had on morality of the youth?

.NET:
This is an AMERICAN crop which will not grow in a NIGERIAN soil.


.NET

at least know some facts before you spew your stupid talk. It's not american culture. Frat is Greek culture originating chiefly within the Catholic church. So is Christianity, which obviously has grown as deep as my gradmother's pee-hole in Nigerian soil.

Pafuri:
Moronic thread.
@poster: you either do not get it or you are being mischievous.
Some facts:
1. The goals, membership (or, at least its leadership from year to year) of the Pyrates Confraternity is on file with the UI (Mother Ship) authorities just like any other organization on campus. I do not know anything about other campuses or other fraternities that grew out of a desire to start one's own fraternity having been kicked out of the Pyrates Confraternity for conducts unbecoming of a Sea Dog. These include use of illicit drug, disloyalty as in not upholding the creed of the group, betrayal of friendship, 'mutiny', public embarrassment, etc., etc. or simply wanting to be Cap'n of a deck.
2. Mr. 'Study in America', the membership of the Pyrates Confraternity is made up of the brightest minds you could find on the UI campus, and perhaps in Nigeria. The members have always graduated and gone out seeking change and betterment in whatever calling they choose to make their own. They have always excelled in all their endeavors, and have contributed immensely to whatever little accomplishments have been recorded by the Nigerian nation. Names will not be mentioned because you see, we do not seek public accolade.

You need some education, the type that could not be obtained unless you remove your 'reformist' goggles.

THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL REACTION.

and I'm supposed to believe you??

tensor777:
That is a good point. A wider point is that already there are campus based clubs in Nigeria that are set up specifically to render much-needed services to the community.
Setting up a secret cult that purports, among other things, to render community services is not the way to go.

Give me examples of such clubs pls, In my year at FUTA, there was nothing, I mean NOTHING AT ALL as such,
Ummm, I dont think an organization that registers itself and all of its members to the uni authorities is 'secret'

chamber2:

How do we stop kidnapping?

How do we stop scuffle between motor parks union leaders?

How do we stop armed robbery?

How do we stop treasury looting?

How do we stop illegal arms importation by politicians?

How do we stop exam malpractice?

How do we stop corruption?

How do we improve power supply?

How do we eradicate poverty and hunger?

How do we stop laziness and poor attitude to work?

How do we stop religious fanaticism?

How do we stop tribalism?

How do we stop, etc?

New ideas are needed in these areas

I know you're not blind, I said what do we need, and how do we obtain what we need?. I could name a thousand problems Nigeria's educational system has, but what can a Nigerian with any sense of patriotism do to help matters (of uni students in this case)? This is just an [b]idea[b] I have that I think might assist in shaping the future of some Nigerian students. You don't agree with it, fine, but provide an easily workable and also highly effective alternative solution to this prob (or to the all of the questions you asked)

chamber2:
@timmy2409

I think the BOOKS u r reading in d US is affecting your reasoning or have u joined the smoking gang? Frat or whatever baptism u want to give it has never worked and will never work in Nigeria, simple.There r alot of things that need re-inventing in naija.And meanwhile,you said u planned teaching for JUST ONE YEAR,haba. Do you intend to achieve all these in one year? How many Nigeria Uni r u targeting or it is only the one in Akure? I sense u r coming home 4 NYSC.

Please think of something else and we will be glad to offer our suggestions

I dont belong to any frat, and even if i did, what does it matter? I said at least one year and not for NYSC. How difficult is it to understand what i wrote?

pheesayor:
I understand your original post, but don't you think having new REGISTERED frats will cause others to be jealous? What if the existing one are registered? I'm suggesting this because there's nothing government can do to stop them because they are also part of government

you're suggesting something like the Niger-Delta amnesty thing, idk how that would turn out, since the current secret societies have no clearly defined , postively contributory goals other than 'domination' and murking members of other cults

Egba girl:
Do Nigerians understand what these frats are intended for? If it has no meaning to them or it does not fit into our culture then it's not needed.
Wole Soyinka and the others might have had good intentions but how many people share those intentions/values/sentiments?

I think the benefits of this action and the consequences should be heavily weighed. Frats are good but are they good in Nigeria. We have to be realistic. Are they what we need at this point? Will that improve the education that nigerians are getting? Priorities first!

so what do you suggest? nobody's doing jack to improve the system, and every idea that comes up 'is not what we need right now', then what do we need? and how do we obtain what we need?

I think there's a misunderstanding here. After rereading my original post, I think it's very open to misinterpretation I wasn't proposing registration of the present 'secret cults', I meant that new frats would be created for positivity.
I attended the university of tech akure for one year, and I understand that there's an insanely high stigma that arises at the mention of 'fraternity', but I just thought the idea of a positive org with that 'title' might show that everything/person can be used in positive ways
Well what they are called fellowships but still function as stated in my original post? Would that work?

I'm assuming all this uproar because I called it a 'frat'. what if i called it a club or a scholars society? would you accept it?

kokoye:
I dont see it working in Nigeria. . .except maybe in a private university where all the kids are from relatively comfortable homes.

There is abject poverty in Nigeria - poor students will see your frat boys and feel oppressed. In fact, they will be oppressed.

And that is how trouble starts.

Your frat will then need to recruit some of these poor thugs for protection . . and so on and so forth.

I said it would recruit students of relatively high intelligence, academic standings and potential. I would think that would be inspiring to lazy students to put more effort into their studies

bismack:
@Poster

It is glaring that you are on a dreamland mission.Please i have cousins in the universities and would not want you to taint them with your soiled bloody hands!! Am sure you were a born cultist and only want now to increase your rank by inventing newer ways to kill and maim,silly.

Please go whack off to a T.B. Joshua sermon

martinosi:
MY FRIEND U  NEED TO STOP ALL THESE GRAND ILLUSIONS,
STOP ALL THIS FOOLISH TALK,

WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IS BAN FRATS & SOROTITIES IN 9JA UNI'S!!!

U NEED TO WAKE UP FROM your FOOLISH SLUMBER,

WHEN U FINISH FROM your USA UNI's

go and get a proper gig(Job) and learn something worthwhile, !!

So when I'm done with my studies, I should remain here and get a job? who'll take a first step in improving Nigeria? I bring up an IDEA and you cant even criticize it sensibly and attack me instead,  SMH

VALIDATOR:
^^^
It is an extremely dangerous idea. Most of the current frats now started on a "noble" mission but there is always at least a Judas is every gathering.
Frats are easier to start up than manage and I see absolutely no need for them in our campuses. You dissolving offending frats means you will be accused of bias and they will then start operating in the dark and that is Back to square one.

Soyinka's Pirates wasn't registered to any authorities, it was just a band of him, his friends and some other students gathering together for a cause that would be later diverted when the original members left. Fo this idea, I plan that frats would be registered to the uni, and they would engage in comm service, bring positive plans and ideas to the university government etc

I plan to teach for at least one year at a Nigerian uni after my study in the US, and I was thinking of ways to positively affect the educational climate there. I was wondering if a reinvention (more like re-definition) of fraternities would be possible/a good idea.

To prevent results similar to Soyinka's Pirates, I decided that each fraternity, including all of its members, must be registered and easily recognizable by the university's authorities. Each frat must also have clearly defined objectives and missions to be registered in the first place. It would always have meetings in the daylight and must submit transcripts from every meeting to the school authorities -- offending frats would be dissolved.For starters, the fraternity I have in mind would recruit students of high intellect and academic standings, would engage in community service and would provide a platform for the 'brains' to share ideas, concepts and opportunities. Apart from countering the negativity associated with 'frats', I think the idea of a positive frat would appeal to some large corporations in Nigeria which would in turn open up scholarship and employment opportunities to the frat members.

So do you think it's a good idea? what are the holes in it? if you were the dean of said university, would you endorse such an idea?

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adaobi123:
Wow u ppl still talking!!!I also schooled in Nigeria for two years and it was quite an experience!!

do you mean that in a good way or otherwise?

I feel Nneka embodies the very mentality that most of us Nigerian youths lack, that "we must move forward" mentality. Coming from the typical 'i got money', 'i got b!#ches', 'i am the shit' music, I found it difficult to appreciate Nneka's music. But as I got to appreciate substance over anything else in music, Nneka fitted right in. If you take her music for what it is, Nneka is like a mixture of Erykah Badu, Fela and Lauryn Hill. Big boots to fill I know, but if you look deeply you wont be disappointed. He!!, apart from the CNN feature, she was featured on this year's BET Music Matters (show for ONLY 6 selected new musicians) alongside the likes of J. Cole http://www.bet.com/MusicMatters/music_musicmatters_nneka.htm People all around the world are getting to appreciate her music by hour. However, its really sad that most Nigerians can't appreciate whatever good they've got right in front of their eyes #justsaying

4 Play:
Not the same Nneka who defrauded Inspired?

wtf is 'Inspired'?

Dis Guy:
gbao

pappilo:
I can tell you are really 17 years old. When you are my age and there is no more bank of daddy and mummy and you've got to provide for your own kids, come back and tell me this your patriotic story. Basically come back in about 20 years and tell me the same story. Good luck.

at your assumptions. What makes the both of you think I'm living off my parents' pockets? And I still don't see what my age has to do with the question I'm asking, because even if I were 50 years old, the same effing thing is still prevalent -- people are bailing out of Nigeria every second without a second look backwards.

Also, in a way, you're still bringing up the same question. You're speculating that as a Nigerian, I cannot be patriotic and successful at the same time (I won't be able to feed my kids and I would have to bail to another country too in search of the "good life",  which was the same thing I was ranting about. Is abandoning Nigeria for the "good life" the ultimate end? last time I checked, the most successful/developed countries were the ones whose people stuck together to strive towards perfection. so are we, Nigerians, basically hedonistic by default?

at the tiger guy
I can't wait to see the answers Christians would give

Well, IMO, the answer is that God doesn't answer prayers
Look at it this way.
If I wake up every morning and pray to Nairaland to give me 500 naira, and then later that day someone gives me 400 naira, I'll say nairaland has given me the right amount I need. However if I dont get any money that day, I can say nairaland knows that I dont need the money right now or that possessing such money could be harmful to me. Then maybe two months later, i work my butt off and finally make 600 naira, I'll give a testimony saying "I have been praying to nairaland for two months now for 500 naira, and today he finally provided it -- and even more than I asked for"
However, every sane person should know that nairaland cannot possibly answer my prayers.

Now replace nairaland with God

Now that's just how far coincidence can carry you. If by some sheer piece of luck the tiger in that cage from your story had been fed only a few minutes before the faith-drunken guy hopped in, he might be able to get out alive and testify that he had just witnessed a miracle,

imhotep:
The problem with Renunciation =>

"When atheists [/b]come to me, they cannot stop talking about God." [Indian Guru]

LESSON: What we renounce  enthralls us. We are forever ATTACHED to whatever we renounce . . .


@Huxley
Welcome, hope u are doing great?

[b]You do not believe in God. But you spend a lot of time THINKING/TALKING/WRITING about God [whom you do not believe in] . . . LOL

Well that makes sense if you consider it this way
Religious folks (mostly Christians) can be compared to traumatized, abused housewives.
1. The women believe anything bad that happens to them is a result of her own missteps (God allowed the devil to punish them be because of their sins or God himself punished them).
2. They fear for their lives and the lives of their children (They dont want to go to hell, so they strive for 'perfection' and try to force their children to do the same), This one suggests a whole lot. First off, the fact that you want to force your child to 'believe'(mostly by threatening them with hell) won't make them make heaven since you have to TRULY love God to make it. Quick question for christians; If you're in heaven, and your acquaintance (maybe your life partner) is in hell, would you be happy? Now doesn't that automatically renders the promise of God to "wipe away all sorrow, tears and mourning from your eyes in heaven"?
3. The women usually believe that the abuser/husband omnipresent and omniscient (In the case of Xtians, this makes them develop an absolute phobia for anything, either right or wrong, that might be offensive to their God), Another question for christians If God is omniscient and knows "the end from the beginning", doesn't that mean he already knows who'll make heaven and who wouldn't??
A common trend among Nigerian christians for example is that whenever they hear some devastating news about Nigeria, their immediate response (after they b*t@# for an hour about how really messed up nigeria is) is "Only God can help us o", only God can help us? has he been asleep since our independence? was that God telling all those past (and present) politicians to embezzle every "green" in sight? was that God watching and smiling while Christians and Muslims died in jaw-dropping numbers over the years?

So in a sense, atheists are justified in "preaching" about the impossibility of the existence of God since they would only be trying to free the religious from their trauma and delusion -- to help them see the worth in themselves

Horus:
We have been witnessing the spiraling of pessimism and melancholic conclusions that nothing good will ever come out of Nigeria; But pessimism is very dangerous and has the power to divide society and even destabilise it.

IMO I think most of us believe that Nigeria can be a better place, but none of us want to get our hands dirty or work to make it happen. Most of those I know talk endlessly about Nigeria's problems and possible solutions, but get up the next morning to their various places of work in the states. That's where it ends, the talk. Every one has an idea or two, but the question is "Who will bell the cat?" and my answer right now is "Definitely not any Nigerian I know of"

First of all, the conclusions I draw are mainly from my own analysis of my experiences with the few Nigerians I have met within the past eight months in the US of A and might not reflect an exact 'typical nigerian mindset'. I am a 17 year old Nigerian, currently a college student in the US. Within the time I've spent, I have discussed with a number of Nigerians (mostly college students and a few relatives) about plans to contribute to the development of Nigeria and the conversations usually proceed as such

Me: Do you plan on going back to Nigeria soon?
Nigerian: Yes
Me: I mean to stay and try to make a contribution to the society
Nigerian: Hell no
Me: Why?
Nigerian:
Me: because of the insecurity, poverty, corruption, crime, etc? (usually they bring this up themselves)
Nigerian: *nods profusely* Of course
Me: don't you think if everyone of us go back to nigeria to make any little contribution with the knowledge of the more-developed world, we might be able to change something? i mean, we might not change the whole of nigeria, but we can change at least one other nigerian's who can make things right?
Nigerian: *scratches head* ________________________ (insert any ridiculous excuse)
Me:
the conversation becomes really awkward afterwards

While I totally understand that people rightfully migrate for various reasons, I also know that a country is nothing without people to own it, nurture it and call it theirs. Most of the Nigerians want to be Americans just to live the "good" life Americans live. I know a number of Nigerians that would tell you "I'm an American, but, umm, my parents are originally from Nigeria", but however get butt-hurt and pick up defense when any non-Nigerian points out that Nigeria's messed up in any way. A majority want to be Americans and Nigerians at the same time i.e most families I have met at different "nigerian" gatherings try to bring their children up as they would in Nigeria (they teach them to prostrate to elders, to say "good morning sir/ma", never to shake an older person's hands and all that culture shyt); they love the Nigerian lifestyle/culture, but can't stand to fight for it. This makes me wonder, are Nigerians are wired to be hedonistic?


PS: Ignore any typos or irrelevant rant, I was really dizzy when I wrote this. I just didn't want to forget
btw TO BE CONTINUED

Umm, may I point out that she's not Nigerian? At least I'm pretty sure she won't be identifying as or trying to contribute towards Nigeria in any way in the future. So?

Umm, may I point out that she's not Nigerian? At least I'm pretty sure she won't be identifying as or trying to contribute towards Nigeria in any way in the future. So?

;d ;d ;d