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plaindealer:
Your line of argument actually sounds silly, Akwa Ibom and Rivers with 1/4 of Lagos state's population, huge allocations, and IGR are actually richer than Lagos state and they really should be far ahead of Lagos state, but they are not because it's not always about advantage, money or commercial capital, it's always about leadership talent and personal qualities of the administrators.

Commerce is all about money and the SS states have more of it and less population than Lagos regardless of Lagos state as whatever commercial capital you are talking about

You can have all the money and advantages in the world, but unless you know how to manage it for more growth, you are not going anywhere.

Abeg stop the weak argument.

somegirl1:
I used the same stats that got all of you excited, same one I quoted.
So why suddenly do I have to research further when the narrative doesn't suit you?

somegirl1:
You're just dancing about because you have no point.

somegirl1:
Ogun generating more revenue than the SE is highly doubtful given that the report you based your comparison on shows SW IGR to be 877.8 billion with Lagos generating 501.2 billion of that amount. Unless you are saying Ondo, Osun, Ekiti and Oyo states generated a combined total less than 35 billion, there's no way Ogun generated more than 340.1 billion which is the revenue allegedly generated by the SE in the post quoted below.

somegirl1:
Highly doubtful



Stats from here based on Census 2006
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nigerian_states_by_population
The wikipedia page references a document from population.gov.ng

The SE is actually the least populated region in Nigeria. I've seen many SW commenters on here claim that there are more Igbos outside of the SE than there are in the SE so it would follow that Igbos contribute more to the IGR of other regions than to that of the SE; that's besides the point however.
IGR comes from income,sales, taxes, fines etc. Workforce, employment opportunities, natural resources, industries contribute to these sources of revenue.
SE is pulling its weight despite being disadvantaged in all (arguably) of the indices above.

somegirl1:



Did you make a random unrelated comment or were you attempting to respond to my comment?

plaindealer:
Lagos as the commercial capital bah?

I remember when Fashola was the governor of Lagos state, Lagos state with all the commercial capital excuse you are talking about used to borrow nearly half of their budget from banks while states like Akwa Ibom budgets even larger budgets than Lagos/Fashola, but Akwa Ibom still achieved less than Lagos state across the board.

It is not always about money, it's always about leadership and talented people making the right decisions.

Commercial capital doesn't alter the fact that Lagos is part of the SW, ruled and governed by the people of the SW with their talent and ingenuity and the same talent and ingenuity that the same people of the SW are massively replicating in Ogun state.

Funny when Lagos was generating measly N500 million per month, it wasn't a commercial capital and Tinubu was corrupt and greedy, but his ingenuity and smarts turned N500 million per month into well over N34 billion per month. So, what was responsible for that? Brains, smarts, talent, and ingenuity or just commercial capital.

Lagos is excelling because of good leadership and sensible leaders, not commercial anything. You can have all the money and opportunities in the world and still achieve nothing.

Lagos is thriving and is the commercial capital that every Nigerian seek for survival is available today because their leaders in Lagos.

Lagos is part of the SW, commercial capital or not.

You people need to stop discounting and using Lagos as a rallying cry to justify and rationalize incompetence and poor performance in other places.

somegirl1:


Follows that the North should have higher IGR than the South assuming all relevant factors were uniform.
This is not the case so their productivity is relatively low.

kettykin:
Coscharis Alone Pays more than N450m as tax in Lagos which is counted as Lagos IGR , now if you pull about 10000 top Igbo business men who because of the lopsided federalism practiced in Nigeria have to put their business in Lagos then Igbos would be contributing more tahn N80B to the IGR of Lagos.

somegirl1:
I read the silly comments about SE's IGR with amusement; Nigerians are on average too unintelligent to evaluate factors that have an impact on IGR or to evaluate anything at all. In the absence of data relating to political and economic factors, demographics etc for each region and assuming a uniform distribution of tax eligible jobs and businesses, doing the basic math based on population would reveal that SE generated the 3rd highest revenue per person after SS and SW or 2nd highest after SS if Lagos was excluded from the SW's computation.

NC
Population - 20,368,918,
IGR - 378.7b
Per person - 18,592.95

NE
Population - 18,984,299
IGR - 351b
Per person - 18,515.30

NW
Population - 35,915,467
IGR - 546.5
Per person - 15,216.29

SE
Population - 16,395,555
IGR - 340.1b
Per person - 20,743. 43

SS
Population - 20,320,869
IGR - 1102b
Per person - 54,229.86

SW
Population - 27,722,432
IGR - 877.8b
Per person - 31,663. 89

Population (excluding Lagos) - 18,608,827
IGR (excluding Lagos) - 376.6b
Per person - 20,237.71

Clearly the SE isn't the least productive region.

Adelaide2:
What type of productivity are you talking about? Are you suggesting that other zones are more productive than SE? That would be a big fat lie. IGR is directly linked to population. You cannot levy on one person two person's taxes - it's always one man one tax. Therefore, SE will always be lower in IGR, given its lower population. Hey don't forget that SE is not the parasite in chief in Nigeria. They receive the lowest monthly allocation from the federal government based on lowest population. In life you cannot eat your cake and have it. You cannot give SE lowest allocation based on population and expect higher IGR based on same population. Does it make any sense to you now?

The entire GDP of Switzerland ($678.89 billion) is greater than that of Nigeria ($375.77 billion); so don't even go there. Nigeria is how many times bigger than Switzerland in population?

KingOdart:
You are still the Olodo here, So literacy rate is low among Yoruba right ? and even the numbers of what i listed above is still low among Hausa

ScotMisile:
Nansense!! !I need links from the National Bereau of Statistics not from some random websites

ScotMisile:
Expired and broken link.. .pls, I have job to do.

ScotMisile:
Lazyyy youth... The words of a living dead president.. repeated by a dummy youth.... Pls, I have work to do on my system.

ScotMisile:
Hehehehe. .why am I even responding to emptiness? ?. .Go get a job and stop quoting me slppery slime

ScotMisile:
You see? You expect me to believe what I read on N L without links to the authoritative site? Mbanu my brother.. we are more than that. .. just a referral link and am quiet.

ScotMisile:
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This is why I avoid critical reasoning with your kind. ..always descending to bad words. .. Why not upload your link? ... What do you think am even talking about...?

ScotMisile:
Why not go get your statistics from NUC.. .. we have never had this most Educated mentality until NUC informed us that we are the most Educated in Africa. So, you have to produce evidence with links at list all of us go school nauu?

Ilamina:
Went to Lagos, nothing special about the place

So stop getting goosebumps and fear when igbos say is no man's land

Last time I checked, Lagos is in nigeria. .

ScotMisile:
Dem Don come, educated ignoramuses

SouthEastFacts:
This is an extract of the report

In a statement on its website, the FCO said “terrorists” are likely going to carry out attacks in the listed states.

Only Abia is on the list because of a recent threat to attack Abia by herdsmen.

Security-wise, Abia has the lowest crime rate in Nigeria.

Go and check the NBS' National Crime Statistics

Omoslim26:
firstly Imo is the most educated state in nigeria infact all d eastern state apart from ebonyi occupies d top 12 list
secondly nt all yorubas voted for dis blood bastard call buhari
thirdly shun tribalism ur score for dis post is
23/100

Ijaycool:
...the bolded is how you love to see human, u love us to be like headless chicken, so you can spill the blood of 'baboons'...my dear we are doing business and prospering, we are not looking for skulls

Johnnyessence:
they will be tired of that soon cos' alot of foreign investors are already on that now. ICT is the gold mine I'm seeing. in 30 years to come, ICT will still exist. femi otedola quit cos' he has seen the future already, if you don't mind, alot of people are investing heavily on oil now, even fg is investing more than private investors. even politicians are into oil business, so the sector is over crowded already. in 10 years to this time, ICT will be the huge gold mine in business sector.

Ijaycool:
Kiaaa

Yorubas and Hausas will make up the list of 20 richest people in Nigeria, no Igbo will smell it.

Guess why?

...

The gap between the rich and poor in Igboland is almost nonexistent. In some other tribes there are very few super rich peeps, then the rest are poor.

Meanwhile amongst the Igbos, everyone is averagely rich, they all strive for the top, no one wants to depend on the other.

Hence the Igbos might collectively be the richest tribe, but individually, they won't smell top 20.

Man City scored the highest number of goals in the premier League, but top 3 highest goal scorers, no single Man City player.

To me that's how a reasonable economy work. Instead of one Alhaji owing a massive estate with 700 buildings, in Ontisha you will see 700 4-storey buildings own by 700 different people.

The goal should be lifting of your brother, not enslaving them.

TheBeat:

Why are afonjas scared of Igbos? Afonjas travel from Nigeria to London and become citizens yet they accuse Igbos of coming to Lagos, a part of their country to do business. Why can't they engage in healthy competition. Igbos are natural fighters, they have individually taken over commerce and lots of industries in Nigeria. Go to wuse in Abuja, Deidei and Idu. Go to Alaba, ladipo etc. They didn't use government to achieve these or take over people's land by force. They simply work hard and earn their place. Few decades ago, we survived civil war but today, our shoulders are high and we keep pushing for equal rights only. We have never asked for us to take over PH, Ak, Delta etc We simply ask everyone to eliminate quota system and give everyone a chance. See us in Education today, business and movie industry. We used to play high life music which is not global anymore but see where we are now just few years of coming to that industry. One day, our people will face politics and be sure we will give it our best. Afonjas used to control media but they are scared since we came up to match them.

Igbos are wicked, how can you cross river Niger, travel to Lagos, buy people's land, excavate cone heads of their ancestors and build mansions.

Before you criticise Igbos, move out of your comfort zone, travel and see!



Good news from Ondo by the way.

osuofia2:
Non yet but my brothers wey de Afonja lands na landlords. me i no de Afonja land. I hope ypur popsy never sale the land he inherited to Omo Igbo?

IkpuMmadu:
Look at Yoruba anonga boy calling people villagers....I laugh! You that Hausa even gave name that never had name ! Hausa Gave you yarriba ...a group that doesn't have any name is saying one is a villager...the only people baptised by Hausa in nigeria


I laugh

IkpuMmadu:
Dude trust me you are retarded ...do you know that research can be short term , mid term and long term ...you can capture 5 year window or 10 year window or 1 year window


A.yoruba man his village is like 16th century dwelling is calling people village ! What an irony ! What type of education do they dish out to you guys and no wonder no Yoruba school comes top nationally

Just look at what graduate I'd saying ..it's a big shame ! I wonder the education you guys dish out ...


Now clown...look at this picture ...ode