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Tony Spike: @ Metaphysical, i just cross-referenced these words. Kindly add them to your list

Oro (Latin) - speak, pray
oro (Yoruba) - words, say


ila (Latin) - to bring about division
ila (Yoruba) - to divide

re-referencing these once again,

Oro [latin], means speak

Oro in yoruba means words

still on this particular word you pulled up:

TerraCotta:

I edited to add an example: The word "ubi" in Latin means "where". In standard Yoruba, people would say "ibi" for the same purpose. In Eastern Yoruba dialects, they'd use the exact same word as Latin: "ubi".

i did a search and found other similarities.

qua and quo in latin means which.

ka in yoruba [particularly eastern yoruba] is what, which or where.


ibi in latin means there. Ibi in yoruba means there, or somewhere.



whats your opinion about this?

i wonder why you're getting upset when the people you opened this thread to attack, arent, even though your intent is to aggravate them.

check the post history of the most vocal atheists here, i already gave you a link which you refused to open, maybe you're afraid to ask them directly?

@ terracotta

you're entitled to your views, but if something keeps popping up during field studies, its worth looking into, since there's likely a reason why.

i went through some of your posts and found this:

TerraCotta: I edited to add an example: The word "ubi" in Latin means "where". In standard Yoruba, people would say "ibi" for the same purpose. In Eastern Yoruba dialects, they'd use the exact same word as Latin: "ubi".

same type of thing which was pointed out earlier on the thread.

Does this mean that Latin and Yoruba have the same origins or belong to the same language family?

no, it does not mean that.

yorubas remain african.

however, if too many words keep reoccurring in both languages with surprising frequency and having the same meaning when translated, then it's worth looking into, imo.

There's obviously a coincidental similarity but in the absence of other evidence of exchanges--conquest, contact, intermarriage, common roots--it's likely to just be a coincidence that Latin and Yoruba have similar words.

i think the question of contact was discussed on another thread last year.

as per coincidence, that's possible, but the coincidences seem to be increasing in number.

didnt know the churches were nigerian.

well, must be a roundabout way of telling nigerians deportation could be in the offing i guess.

I am a regular visitor here:

http://www.webmd.com/

anyone who is annoyed by that, get lost, dont let the door hit you on your way out.

First, they can adopt strategies in health-care delivery and education that endorse the process of patient self-education. Shared clinical decisionmaking is an influential model for patient care now being promoted by researchers, educators and the federal government as a way to get patients to partner with their doctors to take an active role in making decisions about health care. The ideas behind this model were outlined in the late 1990s by researchers at McMaster University in Ontario, Canada, and were important enough to be included in the language of both the federal stimulus and health-reform laws. This model recognizes that many choices in medical care often involve complicated trade-offs. In this process, patients are encouraged to become informed of the nuances related to a health-care decision in advance of the doctor-patient encounter; and the Internet has naturally become the place where these tools can be found in the form of worksheets, videos and decision aids.


Second, doctors can guide their patients to Internet sites that exclusively present current, peer-reviewed and evidence-based health information. There are select examples of both public and private websites that meet these criteria. Some of these sites are, in fact, set up to facilitate a doctor-patient encounter. This website, for example, from the U.S. government's Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality, is specifically designed to organize evidence-based health information so that it can be printed out in advance and taken by patients to a medical appointment.

Last, doctors and nurses are going to have to shed the presumption that the Internet makes patient care harder. The sanctimony that comes with the eye roll and the cyberchondriac label may be an extreme example, but it's still a problem if doctors continue to walk into the exam room with the belief that patients always need to be disabused of the wrong and sensationalistic information they picked up while trolling the Net.

Doctors are going to have to realize that often patients are doing the absolutely best thing for themselves by going online before the office visit. Clinicians will need to learn for themselves which are the best sources of patient-oriented Internet-based information so that when the patient does go in confused by wrong or poorly organized online data, the efforts can be redirected as opposed to dismissed.

Of course, many patients are going to discover the best online health information way before their doctors do. They, too, have a responsibility: patients will need to signal to their doctor how they conducted their search in a way that was smart, directed and grounded in evidence. Only then will the Google stack be recognized and used in a helpful, not counterproductive, fashion.

Googling Symptoms Helps Patients and Doctors


The medical intern started her presentation with an eye roll. "The patient in Room 3 had some blood in the toilet bowl this morning and is here with a pile of Internet printouts listing all the crazy things she thinks she might have."

The intern continued, "I think she has a hemorrhoid."

"Another case of cyberchondria," added the nurse behind me.

In the end, the patient did, indeed, have a hemorrhoid. She was safe to go home with a treatment plan and some reassurance. But I wasn't so sure if what doctors call the "Google stack" (the printouts listing all the potential and worrisome diagnoses) was really such a problem. After all, her symptoms were scary — she may very well have come to the ER regardless of her Web search. The real problem was with my team: we weren't well equipped to deal with her online homework — and it became a distraction.



Whether the Internet is a useful or dangerous place to get health information is not a novel question. Information overload, biased sources, complicated jargon, conflicting recommendations and stories that always seem to invoke nightmare scenarios are well-known reasons to be wary of Googling your symptoms.

Yet there is no question that patients routinely benefit from going online before visiting the doctor. Recently I saw a patient who came to the ER with a strange rash. She arrived with color printouts that correctly identified her condition. Not only was she correct in her self-diagnosis, but I am not sure I would have considered the right diagnosis so quickly if she hadn't brought in the pictures (it was a common condition with an atypical presentation). I know many health providers who have experienced similar circumstances.


But to debate whether patients should or should not Google their symptoms (which a surprising number of doctors seem to enjoy engaging in) is an absurd exercise. Patients already are doing it, it is now a fact of normal patient behavior, and it will only increase as Internet technology becomes ever more ubiquitous. The average Joe has more health information at his fingertips — both credible and charlatan — than all the medical libraries ever built put together. So the real question is, What can professionals do to translate this phenomenon into better health for their patients and the public?






http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2043125,00.html#ixzz2cIGOykEY

We’ve all done it. We’ve typed symptoms like “tingling, left arm” into Google, WebMD or any one of the myriad encyclopedic medical resources available on the Internet, before going to the doctor for an actual diagnosis. (Is it a stroke? Shingles? Carpal tunnel?)

Patients’ “Google stacks” (the printouts listing all their potential diagnoses) and “cyberchondria,” as some doctors refer to them, can be difficult for physicians to manage, says Dr. Zachary F. Meisel in his new column, Medical Insider, on Time.com. However, to “debate whether patients should or should not Google their symptoms…is an absurd exercise,” Meisel says, since patients are already doing it. Plus, it often empowers patients and, in some instances, can make doctors’ jobs easier:


[T]here is no question that patients routinely benefit from going online before visiting the doctor. Recently I saw a patient who came to the ER with a strange rash. She arrived with color printouts that correctly identified her condition. Not only was she correct in her self-diagnosis, but I am not sure I would have considered the right diagnosis so quickly if she hadn’t brought in the pictures.




So the real question is, How should doctors embrace and guide their patients’ online sleuthing in order to improve their care? To find out, check out this week’s Medical Insider.





http://healthland.time.com/2011/01/19/the-medical-insider-helping-patients-google-symptoms/#ixzz2cIG0t4ma

Fashola, the most Ibo-friendly Yoruba leader

true that.

he's so progressive and de-tribalised, kudos to him.

he's been actively working to make lagos welcoming to all.

someone even had to ask this question here:

https://www.nairaland.com/1136150/why-atheist-mainly-excatholics

most or many of them say they're catholic or ex-catholic, doesnt matter.

^thanks.

so everything na to call ffk now.

temiosunrinde: nestly I am still as confused as everquote author=haibe]

I believe by our own will, we choose our destiny, what i don't know is if God knows our destiny, why then do we have to live this life again since God already knows our fate from the beginning(who goes to hell and who makes heaven).. I have also been pondering on this.

like i always say, hell needs fuel, its up to humans to decide if they'd rather be the fuel, lord have mercy.

God created the universe in such a way that it functions like clockwork- maybe thats what you consider as destiny.

God's purpose cant be cancelled, its mainly humans who have more wiggle room when it comes to destiny, we have lots of choices. Much of the rest of creation doesnt.

so, the general overall purpose of God (what star trek would call a supreme directive), remains firm (else the earth would have been gone long ago), and that is what we might be calling destiny when we view it through our imperfect understanding.

temiosunrinde: Do you know there is a limit to the capablity and the capacity of the product?a product has its end point no matter how hard it tries it can't just work,more than how t has been pre determined to work from the manufacturers factory??isn't that destiny?

predetermined to work is a very interesting phrase, in this context.

however, there's also the issue of free will, implying a choice between destinies.

yikes, i typed a detailed response which got lost.

very beautifully crafted too.

anyway, let me try again, see if i can recreate what i meant to post.





going by the op's examples, your abilities (in whatever form, good or bad), are what you bring to your destiny.

say you choose a particular path out of many options, this will lead you to a destiny which is also one out of multiple destinies which portend your future.

think of multiple alternate universes, each containing a different scenario as regards your destiny or destinies, you choose one and that's a destiny vis a vis your particular actions.

destiny has a "general" connotation, meaning its based on the sum of your interaction in life with other people, ie how your actions affect them and how their actions affect you.

No hometown or home state?

I dont see anything wrong with it.

Is there an issue?

Topic

No, it is not your business, especially you "she took a crap yesterday and didnt take another till three days" nlers.

Should i pull up the irritating threads where people are demonstrating their i.diocy?

Na so una go dey pretend say na utilitarianism una dey do, whereas na bad belle dey worry una, very insidious, abnormal and satanic bad belle for that matter.

Why not post the story here.

Hmm, i'm almost certain i've seen this before, somewhere, maybe a book?

andrewza: Your average southern africa (excluding mozambique) is rather well off and earns enough to live

Eh, i'm not southern african, so.

Besides, i grew up poor so i dont miss what i didnt have.

italo: Many of the Atheists are even far more honest than these hypocrites.

The hypocrites arent ashamed of Jesus because he is divine...despite the insults they get from Atheists.

Why then are they ashamed of their "churches?"

Because it is man-made.

You're just trying to witch hunt, thats all.

Same tactics the atheists use.

Projection too.

The section is dead anyway, you folks can have it to yourselves as far as i'm concerned, its been long gone.

What data?

If you feel they're not catholic, then correct them when they say they are.

They can migrate elsewhere.

Only the sincere ones though.

Afterall, thats how america was founded.

italo: Not to sound biased..but here on nairaland I think Catholics are more forthright in identifying with the Church than any other group even though we undergo the most and worst attacks.

The others hardly ever want to mention where they go for Sunday service.

I think it boils down to hypocrisy.

They criticize us even when they know we are better than them.

Still no excuse for the thread title and besides, you should face your attackers squarely instead of generalizing.

I've noticed frosbel criticizing catholic doctrine, same way he does to every other doctrine, and he says he's not affiliated with any church.

The atheists ( most of who are catholic) attacking catholics and churches in general, would not have a church, i assume.