:othis is crazy. So many mentally deranged normal looking persons walking around. God have mercy on this family. Thank God the woman admits the hubby is sick but its sad she has to put her kids tro these torture cos of their depraved sex cravings. This is a wake up call to all those going tro similar cases, it always starts from a harmless request of "let's spice up our sex lives" to a horrible reality of the bondage you allow ur cravings drive u to. Madam you better drop love issue for that craze man and see how u can redeem ur children's life and love before u lose them. It will take ur hubby beyond therapy and prayers to come out of his self imposed bondage.

Exactly my thought and skepticism. Well just as he said, he likes listening to peoples views so he can learn more. Anyways good luck to u op.

Pidggin:


Okay, good. It is surprising that someone with your level of financial intelligence(as you stated above) will still be searching for more knowledge on investment from this platform. From your post, you should be a consultant or are you trying to mock us? You seem highly financial literate, so why the unnecessary question? You should know what to do with your millions na? Wishing you good luck.

OK, tnx for the hint. I do have a package idea though.

Henix:
No business plan, no past record, no experience on the said agricultural venture, and you want some one to give you 5 million naira loan? You need to package your idea 1st

I'm in Lagos. It will be good to get that money invested in different ventures as earlier advised. I do not have a biz plan but I have hectres of land I intend using for agricultural purposes with focus on both food and cash crop. If you can give me a loan of 5m, you can get a repayment of both principal and interest of 8m within a period okay by both of us.

Why not post some pix of the bales here and the price range. Also it seems the Nos posted is not on WhatsApp.

Contact me on 08035224812, I can help with the decoration and food.

macdelene:
Hello house. I really need your assistance to plan for a wedding. The budget amount is N1500000 and the target date is June. Pls I need experts fast

Lovely shoes. Price pls?

Just what I was thinking. In addition op did u at any point in time discourage any form of assistance in time past? Have u ever considered any advise on finances from her end or u just wave whatever she says as "women talk"? What's ur spending habit like? I bet if u av goofed or treated with levity whatever she has said about finances, then u av to go mend fences with her in those areas.

Kimoni:



I bet you no woman, I repeat no woman will be unwilling to help a responsible husband out financially, especially in OP's case where he claims to have been shouldering the responsibilities all alone before now and even set her up in the said business. That alone should tell you we ain't hearing the whole story. The wife alone can tell us what exactly is happening in their home.

- Does the husband hide his salary from her? Some men believe it's a taboo for the wife to know their earnings. Such men are OYO when they get broke
- Like people have suggested, maybe she's actually making a loss from the business but the husband thinks otherwise
- Does he keep girlfriends - if you claim to be broke but still have spare money to throw around, then you are not really broke.
- Maybe, just maybe he was really not as nice when he had a good job.

Honestly, I can only insinuate, the wife would explain her actions better but it's rare to find a woman who would not be willing to fend for her family when she knows the husband is truly incapable. Women are loyal like that

Best advise so far. Bottom line talk with her, give her enough time to think things through and in the interim cut any form of communication and seeing face to face. If she's toying with ur emotions she would know better when she sees the seriousness of u being ready to move on with or without her. If she comes calling back, make I go through series of questioning so u will be sure she's not acting on emotions but from a conscious understanding that she's ready to accept the responsibilities of her choice to stay by u. Dis will prevent u from being subject to any emotional blackmail in the near future.

Jamean:
I posted sometime ago that there's no one perfect partner for everybody. If it were so, take an instance of a young man who passed on at 26years. All things being equal he could have been married at 30years, so what happens to the assumed lady he would have married even though they never met before his death. Wouldn't she have married someone else and still have a good marriage ?

It's okay to have a number of suitors as a lady... But how you manage your relationship is key to either mar or make your current relationship. The man on board should feel in charge, especially if he's a great guy, don't rub it in his face because he could have been with a better woman too. At this I do not encourage the aggression of your lady, it seems like she feels she's doing you a favour.

I will suggest you have a very intimate and comprehensive conversation with her; reinforcing your feelings and intentions. Let her also share her sentiments and plans in all honesty and make a decision to be with you. If she is still confused about it, give her sometime to be alone. Reduce the frequency of communication and expressions. She needs her head to be clear and not make a decision out of pity. The grass is not necessarily greener on the other side.

If she's sure she wants to be with you then ties with other suitors has to be strained if not this can encroach infidelity and comparison when you eventually marry. If she chooses to be with someone else, let her be. You'll definitely be happy too.

Don't be desperate, love is a state of mind.

Its bad when u lack understanding of the words u use. Anyway what's expected of someone who knows how to speak English both formal and informal and still cannot make a head of what he's saying. Quite pathetic. Learn to differentiate between constructive criticism and a destructive one, identify complements for what they are and stop washing ur stinking garments for all to see. No one is interested in them

PreciousBro:


You and intelligence are darkness and light respectively. If you had a life i doubt you'd refrain from paying heed to your own advice.

Who cursed you with this perptual state of mentioning me upandan groping for attention like a sick piglet. Ambition? You are living up to yours following me.

Too bad. Many are mad but few are roaming. We will soon find you in the refuse dump where u are posting from. Sick demented attention seeking fellow with no future ambition. Better go get a life cos social media is not one.

PreciousBro:


You are a yelping puppy. I could smell your sycophancy for female validation and a few likes from your pathetic post.

Your parents left you off in a bush for some meagre employment in a security post. You better stick to ãSs-kissing and shît packing as your day job. Why did you quote me again?

Just like u were quickb to calling the op a scammer? Even if u had been a victim of scammers, u did not give her a chance cos ur mind was made up on ur intentions. And the fact that u requested a recharge card stands strongly against u.

Elhayjay:
The problem with nairalander is that they crucify someone immeaditely an allegation is raised not hearing the other aide of the story.I see it daily here and that's not too good.we are fast in condemning people and arriving at a conclusion without doing proper investigation.will all this scene have arise if the op have sent the ready made products of her goods with the label?definitely no.even she should have sent an image that shows how this thing is being produced may be in the factory or in the lab or does she want to use my own money to test-run her new business though she told me when I first called her that she have been in the business for long.why are you people quick at judging someone here?can't you ask the op some questions too?why are you so fast in crucifying me?una know me before or what?why will a good entrepreneur send an ordinary bottles to convince his or her clients? What of the production stage either in the room or the factory or wherever?what of the stickers or label or don't she have one at all she can show me?you guys are not doing good by not asking cf hee questions! And someone is quick to run to my Facebook and screenshot my picture to post here.It is well.I think this is the right time I just become a guest here.If I run a bank account or nairaland account with my wife,how is that a sin or fraud or can't you see in health section that I always say on behalf of my wife anytime I am asking questions.My wife is still a student and she is always busy.So,I show her the feedback I get whenever I ask a question on her behalf or sometimes she read by herself.

Love ur products. Will contact u as soon as the need arises. Is ur office in MCCE shopping plaza?

Tjakes:

Someone has gone as far as busting this guy's scams all the way to Facebook and other platforms and people are still giving him the benefit of doubt. It's only normal for him to keep trying to save face.
Here are my finished goods and let me say this clearly Adewunmi contacted me first on my MTN to make enquiries about my product. I called him on GLO line when the insults started to stop him from calling me names (still thinking he was a genuine buyer). I repeat, I do not have any reason to call this boy 10 times like you stated. What's the desperation for? If one customer doesn't buy, others will.

Eya! I thought u were mature and I was actually seeing sense in what u were saying but u've proved otherwise with your utterances. Too bad I dnt have a demented upbringing like yours. Look elsewhere to spill ur bile pls.

PreciousBro:


Kid! Whose treasure are you drooling for now with this sycophantic and emasculatory remark. Did you miss prior page in a bid to smell fârt from Op's ãSs and feel satisfied quoting me with that sour-faced smiley.

Take your own advice and dont water my mention with this äSs-licking post of yours.

Exactly my thought. Its possible her lover kayode is behind her demise. Hw come both of them were laid off just 2days apart, she never told her hubby bout that. And has it occurred to anyone else if the assault marks were given to her by another man asides her hubby if going by the landlady's testimony. Mr kayode should be arrested for interrogation. D hubby may just be a victim of circumstance in all this. With the rate of jungle justice being meted out on people and police jumping into irrational conclusion, I wnt blame the man for running. The police may as well accuse him or place evidences against him at the crime scene so they can escape carrying out a thorough investigation.

cutetoks2:
There is more to ronke's death than we thought, obviously she has been having extra marital affairs with the kayode guy, and i am sure her death too should be tied to kayode, he might have done something to her while they were on their roller coaster love affair, may God safe some innocent married men from flirtatious women called wives.

Op pls I understand all u av said here but it wnt be best for u to cheat on ur husband. Its enough that he feels disappointed in himself for letting you down, that's why he's withdrawn. Its also possible that ur attitude is not helping him recover himself. This is hard for u to take but u av to know, the work lies more on u than him. Let go of whatever hurt u feel, have a one on one talk with him and let him know u av forgiven him from d depths of ur heart, don't ever refer to dis mistake he has made at any point in time, embrace him back into ur life like a lost repentant child and above all, act like its no big deal. This will help u get ur hubby back. I'm sorry to say ur friends advise is not good and if u are patient enough, u will see where ur friend will end as a result of her decisions. Dnt cheat on ur hubby for ur own sake and for u to remain in the good records. Listen to ur psychologists and if need be take ur hubby along cos he will need a session or two himself. U are a good woman pls keep being one. U may not be given a trophy for it but do it for ur own good. And embrace a prayerful life as well, it will help a great deal.

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Look here, You dont need us to justify your intending cheating tendencies. You are struggling to accrue to your self the excuse to cheat back on yout man. If your marriage status is not on the background of do-me i do-you then why create such a misleading thread centered on revenge ?

This thread harbors the abhorrence of feminism which is to lose the uniqueness of womanhood by discarding the virtue of chastity and encouraging waywardness. You should be ashamed of your self trailing the misdeeds of man and losing every virtue in self in the same process.

The same question i asked that moroñic dingbat of a useless creature called diva90, which is, "if you admit cheating is bad, why proffer it as a solution to ease the trauma of another bad, in the same vain this ogogoro drinking she-lizard said she didnt opine cheating is good. Dafties!!!

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Babe that the attitude of a guilty man who is yet to overcome and come to terms with his actions. Dnt for that reason cheat on him or keep entertaining ur ex. He will come out of it and u can help him come out of it faster.

jollymolly:


It is not do me , I do you, if not I would have done that over a year ago. He pushed me to a point where I decided to talk to my ex since he has that listening ear and cos we remain mutual friends after I got married. He is somehow separated with the wife cos the lady doesn't want to live in Nigeria and he doesn't want to leave his work and join them.My husband is so insensitive after I caught him that I feel he is even angry with me for catching him.When I bring up a discussion, he just talk like am forcing him to and face his laptop or phone. From a far you will think that I am the one that cheated and am trying to make things right with him.Does he deserve to be cheated on? Absolutely. My emotions is so messed up that at times I wake up and I am willing to cheat on him in a heartbeat, just that my conscience keep questioning me.

u were doing so well with ur argument b4 u called her a moronic shit. D insult has watered down ur points na.

PreciousBro:


You are a moronic timid sh!t eating fly, calling me an illiterate before you is prohibited. Your postulations so far has put you on the man's opposition since you subliminally suggested cheating as a reason to obtain her emotional comfort and had the temerity to include God in your wolly headed premise yet you turn around to exonerate your self when i flawed your logically bereft logic.

Now you want to shift post calling me a chauvenist lol

Op pls I understand all u av said here but it wnt be best for u to cheat on ur husband. Its enough that he feels disappointed in himself for letting you down, that's why he's withdrawn. Its also possible that ur attitude is not helping him recover himself. This is hard for u to take but u av to know, the work lies more on u than him. Let go of whatever hurt u feel, have a one on one talk with him and let him know u av forgiven him from d depths of ur heart, don't ever refer to dis mistake he has made at any point in time, embrace him back into ur life like a lost repentant child and above all, act like its no big deal. This will help u get ur hubby back. I'm sorry to say ur friends advise is not good and if u are patient enough, u will see where ur friend will end as a result of her decisions. Dnt cheat on ur hubby for ur own sake and for u to remain in the good records. Listen to ur psychologists and if need be take ur hubby along cos he will need a session or two himself. U are a good woman pls keep being one. U may not be given a trophy for it but do it for ur own good. And embrace a prayerful life as well, it will help a great deal.

@Ellhayjay, why not show us evidence of the chats u had and the pix she sent to u. Its not enough for you to come here ranting words without evidence. One thing u must know is that a lot gives u out as the scammer like using someone else's account, claiming ignorance of ur Nos being used to ask for recharge card and most importantly calling her names and bringing in God. God was not involved when u started the chats with her. This is just a lame way of trying to exonerate yourself. She coming here b4 u to post as well is not an excuse. Its also not out of place for a biz person to call to try convince a customer of his product. U said she did not convince u enough, what else were u expecting her to do b4 u cried "wolf"? Mind u anyone could have helped her hold up d bottle so she could take a snapshot.

op dats not good enough reason to. Have you not heard of guys who go that far even to getting everytin done in readiness only for the guy never to show up for the occasion or even back out at the altar? You may definitely have that mindset but certainly not the majority of deceptive guys out there.

StillBrandnew:


I could explain further but then maybe I'll save it for another day.

The term marriage isn't the wedding ceremony some people wait for before sealing it up with their first sex.

The moment a guy tells you his intentions and shows his seriousness about marrying you by meeting your parents. You have started the journey already.

He now formalises all that by proposing and giving you a ring.

From that moment on, you guys are as good as being married.

You get?

> @ she received sense.

Amplitron:
It is good to try things out before you eventually commit to it. We must however know that as adults all actions carry responsibilities. There is a possibility of std, pregnancy, etc. I know a lady who believed the love between her and her boyfriend was strong enough to weather any storm. One day she tested him by saying she was pregnant. They guy changed completely that same day going from words like "you are mine forever" to "let's find a solution to this first. Then we can take things slowly". She eventually received sense and the relationship died a natural death. It was all hinged on physical attraction and fantasies. Adult reality set in and they quickly understood things.

Well said guy.

DesChyko:
And if the 'sex' doesn't work out at that moment, instead of both of you looking for a solution together, the 'faulty' person will be left alone to look for a solution to his/her problem right? So much for being serious about each other.

Sex before marriage tests your faith in your Creator. If you trust him to be in control of your destiny, you wouldn't need to panic over his choices for you.

I think it's just not proper. The truth must be said even if we don't follow it

[size=8pt][/size] :Dchai!!!! Ur way of reasoning is amusing.

Mamatee07:
No problem but no one should blame her when she comes to cut out the kidney if he refuses to return it voluntarily

He should really think straight. How many ladies in this generation will go this extra mile in the name of love?

SeishinSenshi:
Mr. man reignite the passion and love in your relationship. It is very possible for love to wax cold, only you can fan the flames of your dying love back to life. Instead of seeing her as a gf who donated a kidney to your, start seeing her as a woman who cherishes you and would do anything or go to any length just for you, because she loves you truly.

Do not leave her after 5 years and after such a great sacrifice.

Even if she did it for free, this goes to show that the guy was never in love with her in the first place. That's why its not good to jump into justvany relationship. I'm sure if they had taken time to themselves they would have been certain that being "friends" was the best for them and not loverz. On the other hand if there truly was love beyond the friendship level, they can always reignite the flames and whatever kept them going all along. Waking up to realize u are no longer In love did not start in one night but had been a gradual thing. Growing back in love will also be gradual. I bet it if u do away with her, u will as well feel same way in another r/ship. Will u then keep doing awaybwith each lady when the sparks of love is gone? If u can't go ahead with the r/ship, take time to communicate with her and make her understand. If she's mature she will let go without any issues about how much she has given to keep u both going.

tee59:
When u were btw life and death on your sick bed hoping for miracle dat wil giv u bak ur normal life. She came to ur rescue without thinking abt herself and wat her family reaction would be cus she loved u wholeheartedly. Now, u are bak on ur feet and d next thing to do is to dump her? Didnt u kno b4 dat, u were nt in real love with her? U shld av told ur family not to allow her donate her kidney and allowed u to rest in peace. No woman can do dat for free.

Abi o.

cococandy:
If he had died, he would not be here catching and losing feelings upandan.

and be saved of the guilt.

Zehner:
Give her back her kidney Shikena

Nope.

Knightngale:
sarcasm?

Same thought here

ehie:
30 or 40

My case is just as the person i quoted. Op I suspect ur fiancee must have heard a lot of negativities concerning inlaws living with a newly wed couple. I dnt blame her tho but I bet to differ that not all cases are similar. Her case may be different if she sees it from another perspective. I'm surprised it was never an issue for her until she went seeking peoples opinion, too bad. If u on ur part can dissuade her fears, good for u but if it appears she's not, give her a long period of time to think things tro, see reality in its entirety b4 u decide on what next to do. Mind you make her understand how she would feel if she were to be in ur shoes and u are making demands of this nature on her.

toyeem:
This is a serious one. Find a way of talking this out with her,find out what exactly she's afraid of and convince her that there won't be any problem. I'm very sure she has her reasons. Mine was third party interference and family secrets jumping around but when my husband assured me that there won't be any of such, I lovingly took 2 of my inlaws in and it has been wonderful living with them.