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LordReed:
LoLz. What can I say haters gonna hate. There was a time I ignored him and he took it as some sort of victory by his god's power so I had to disabuse him of that.

For your own good,just ignore him .

Image123:
Funny, you got free time to go try and study me posts, or you're a burner account.
Now i am so scared 😱, Reed may be dul enough to follow Aithophel's advice. What will happen to me and the reason left of me. Oh God.

Go and rest oga.You're no longer sounding coherent.

It's not about studying you. It's what you do all the time to the extent it has become too obvious for others to see you harassing him everywhere. I believe I'm not the only one to observe this about you.

Honestly it's irrational behaviour that requires professional help to deal with it.

FYI, I'm neither a pastor nor an atheist.

LivingEarthMan:
Nice try at psychology lecturing there.

But you are missing a key point. One thing I have come to discover about life is that in every issue there is always one fundamental fact that supercedes every other 'facts' and story because it is the very root of the issue without which there would have been no issue. In the case of Comfort Emmason (whatever is her name) the fundamental fact that supercedes every other facts and every other story was her refusal to switch off her phone completely when she was asked to do so. I hope you understand that switching off mobile phone while in aeroplane is a law in Nigeria.

In the process of trying to compel her to switch off her phone, one thing led to another and she ended up physically assaulting an airline official which is a punishable offence and you expected her to be allowed to deplane just like that? No. She needed to be arrested by the airport security and charged to court for disobedience of lawful instruction and for assaulting an official who was doing her job! that was the reason she was not allowed to go out of the plane.

I find it shocking that a supposedly intelligent man like you is faulting Very Dark Man's insistence that the so-called 'eye witness' should proof that he was actually in the plane as he was claiming he was. You seems to forget we live in a world where AI can generate fake audio, fake video, and fake picture. And off course anyone can just come out of nowhere and make any claim. So a wise person must always demand to see evidence before swallowing any story, in that light, Very Dark Man did the right thing by asking the 'eye witness' to produce evidence of him being a true eye witness and was not fabricating the story.

Lastly, I hate lawlessness as much as I hate injustice. And by principle I have zero sympathy for anyone who is facing the consequence of his or her lawless behaviour. Hence, my lack of sympathy for whatever happened to Comfort Emmason in that plane.

@LivingEarthMan, thank you for responding to the topic. I appreciate you declaring your position clearly. This is exactly the kind of discussion the article is meant to provoke .

You' ve mentioned the refusal to turn off a phone as the "fundamental fact". However , the main argument of this article is that this very fact, the basis for the entire airline's story ,has been publicly contradicted by multiple eyewitnesses and official governing body.

The Nigerian Civil Aviation Authority (NCAA) which enforces the laws you mentioned,has officially announced that the pilot didn't call security because " the issue seemed resolved during the flight". This is not my opinion, it's a matter of public record from the chief press officer of the NCAA.

This official statement alone renders invalid the need for any arrest in Lagos. Moreover, multiple eyewitnesses on the the flight, including a barrister who showed his boarding pass on Channels TV as evidence he was on board, have testified that at no time did Ms Comfort' refused to switch off her phone and that the issue was a minor misunderstanding which was resolved before take off in Uyo with the assistance of a fellow passenger. The altercation didn't happen in Uyo. It was triggered by the crew upon landing in Lagos as the passenger attempted to depart peacefully from the plane.

Therefore , the "fundamental fact" isn't that she refused to turn off her phone. The new fundamental facts confirmed by evidence are the following;

1. The phone issue was resolved at the point of take off.

2. The pilot, the captain- in -command, considered the matter closed.

3. The physical confrontation was started in Lagos by the crew member, Juliana Edwards, blocking Ms Comfort' exist without justification.

Yes, you're correct to ask for evidence. That, in fact is the entire point of my article. I'm not asking you to believe me ,but asking you to believe the evidence provided by the NCAA and the testimonies of independent witnesses over the initial now debunked PR statement from the airline now facing liability.

You say you detest lawlessness. I also do,and that's why I wrote about the lawless breach of protocol by the the crew member, Juliana Edwards, who took unauthorised enforcement action against an innocent passenger, which is a severe violation of safety rules. The crew member's action turned an already settled matter in Uyo into a new physical confrontation in Lagos .

I encourage you to re-read the article, not as a " psychological lecture" but as a presentation of these evidenced facts. It already answers the very points you' ve raised . If you still have questions after reading again to engage with the evidence it presents, I would be genuinely interested to discuss them further with you.

Thanks

LordReed:
This is the same guy who had no sympathy for a fellow Christian who unalived himself. No hate like Christian love.

I have them around me. So, his behaviour isn't a surprise .

Pretending to care about you,but secretly wishing your downfall so they can laugh like witches in a coven.

@Lordreed, What did you do to this man?

I noticed that for years he has been hounding you about. Nearly every time you post something here, he's sure to respond negatively to it.

I honestly don't know of anyone here who has been facing this sort of harassment.

I advice you stop responding to him no matter what he says. He has been vamparising on your emotional energy for years. Cut it off and let him go look for someone else.

He's not who he claims to be. His mask has slipped off on this thread, exposing him.

Image123:
You didn't discontinue?
Therapist customers await you, my compassionate friend. Go for the jugular. Stop these cheap talk. Ask around, engage the right set of people, they've been praying for you.

It's because you don't understand what's written in simple English language .

I was specific about what I said. I said I was ending the "conversation" that has do with me appealing to your humanity and conscience. I didn't not say I won't respond to your personal attack.

So, at the moment,I'm responding to the nonsense you have been saying outside that conversation. You didn't engage directly with the " conversation", so no need wasting my time .

Hope it's clear now ?

And praying for others to change them is witchcraft: the attempt to impose your personal will on others to change them.

Image123:
You said it earlier, kindly discontinue what you consider conversation. i have no desire to engage in meaningless discussions based on assumptions. You'll be of more profit demonstrating your great advice to the grieving parties. You are on a very long thing my compassionate friend.

The only "grieving parties" I see here is you. You're entangled in bitterness and hate, two things that negatively impacts on one's mental health.

LordReed:
I commend you for trying to reason with the unreasonable.

Thanks . Sometimes you have to make some effort even when you know it's probably a waste of time.

Image123:
My dear compassionate friend, leave the sermons for the obvious. We're not having a conversation here, take up pastoral care of these flock and show you really care. Where have you been all these while, are you not the one they've been praying for?

It's obvious you have no desire to engage in a reasonable discussion. You have resorted to sarcasm and personal attacks instead of directly addressing the point that celebrating someone's struggles is not a loving way to behave.. Your Bible has even made it clear that such behaviour will never go unpunished..

Well, my "sermon" ,as you call it, was just about basic human decency,and that shouldn't be a controversial idea

I've said all I need to say on the matter .I won't be responding again. FYI, I'm not a pastor and nobody is praying for me. That comment of yours is very vague. Unlike your friends, there's nothing you know about me outside this forum.

Thank you

Image123:
i am not his pastor, he can go and find his pastor in his church. All the while he was not an atheist; he didn't need therapy. Few years out, he's battling mariJ, and the other one alcohol, and needing therapy and celebrating one week wins. i should actually be rolling on the floor laughing like them if no be say God dey exist. See, just be his pastor offering 'support' and leave me alone. If he cares for his mental health, let him disturb me. When these fellows mock us for believing God or serving God for years and pages, you didn't ask them to show compassion, people would have assumed that they were living in Aso Rock or White House because they stopped believing God, while those that believe are the dregs of the lowest earth.

Hmmmm. Your reply confirms exactly what I was explaining.

You think you should be "rolling on the floor laughing" at his struggles. You also regard is bold decision to seek therapy and his celebration of "one week wins" as a joke, not as the difficult, praiseworthy effort of a friend trying to improve their mental health .

My friend , that's not concern, love or compassion. It's called, schadenfreude, deriving joy in another's pain and struggles.. Proverbs 17.5 warns heavily against this kind of behaviour you're displaying. You're using his struggles not as a reason to offer support, but a weapon to laugh at him and validate your beliefs .

Your claim he didn't require professional help when he was a Christian is an assumption or more correctly put, a lie. Many Christians struggle silently with issues they're afraid to face.. It takes huge courage to finally face them with or without religion . It's clear you're seeing correlation and assuming causation to fit your narrative.

Genuine faith isn't proven by mocking someone else's struggles and saying, 'I told you so ' . It's proven by demonstrating the grace,love and compassion you claim your religion provides. Unfortunately, you have chosen the former instead of the latter

I will discontinue the conversation at this point. I'll just leave this here for others following this thread to consider what true compassion really looks like.

Thank you

Image123:
Thank you sir/ma, i have known muskee for over a decade. i repeat again, i keep saying it. It's a place of experience and knowledge, not assumption.

Ok. I see you've known him for a long time. But that doesn't change the fact about what he has written here about his current actions,which are, taking a break from marijuana and pursuing therapy to find peace. Those are commendable steps towards responsibility, not away from it .

If you've known him for over a decade and sincerely concerned for him, the loving and friendly thing to do would be to reach out to him privately to offer support,and not call him out publicly like an enemy,. Nairaland is where we discuss ideas,true friendship and pastoral care happen in private with compassion. The way you're engaging him here seems more about being right, ' I keep saying it ', than helping him like someone you have known for long.

Image123:
Lolz, sorry muskee. So you left God for mariJ. Unfortunate. i keep saying it.

Comments like 'I keep saying it' often come from a place of assuming the worst about people who abandon religion. But consider what he actually shared. He's working on his mental health and making positive changes in his life. That's courage and self awareness. Instead of assuming he left to sin,I think you should listen to his experience. He's now on a different path, seeking peace and responsibility. A little understanding goes a long way.

Felicity001:
Investigative journalism should ve well documented after prosecution has been carried out, not in this manner. To me it's see this as tatafo... false accusations.

It's investigation first to gather evidence and then prosecution. That's how it works.

And BTW, which 'tatafo... false accusations ' are you refering to? Did you watch the video? I doubt you did.

While being secretly filmed by an undercover BBC reporter, Charles Mwesigwa described how he could easily provide girls' to do 'crazy stuff' for one thousand Us dollars . This recording has already implicated him.

Felicity001:
Evidence without prosecution is waste of evidence.

I regretted spending my data to watch that episode. Total rubbish! If I were that man I'll sue BBC for character deformation. The guy clearly said he only helps out in connecting the girls to his rich contacts. The deseased girls so sad, can't speak from their grave. Didn't tell anyone or leave any trace of who took them to Dubia for prostitution.

How about the Dubia police, they know these things are happening in their country, what have they done to stop it?

Why don't BBC go and arrest them? Funny.

What BBC should do is create awareness to our young ladies of the so called promised life abroad. Another thing is most of these girls know what they're going there to do but what they dint know is that things can be so unlucky for them, they dont imagine that the Arabs see blacks as animal... they can tell their snakes, dogs to make love to them in a family party in front of everyone while they video and watch the play and have fun about it. The girls would have been drugged heavily b4 they present them, so they dont even know what they're doing.

So most of these girls know its prostitution they're going there for but they don't know its to the extreme.

The whites in general are devil's, and they identify a black person to carry out their evil doings.

BBC should do better.

R-kelly was investigated and was prosecuted... so its not abiut just investigating, what happens after then.

Now, is there justice for the deseased girls? The answer is a big NO!

What the BBC did is called investigative journalism. It's not their job to prosecute the perpetrators. Those who would do so have received the report already .So, it's now left for them to act on it or not.

Softmirror:
I already told you that it is not about this report. It is about the notion that since it is BBC hence it means it is 100%. Every news outlet have their own agenda. BBC has been responsible for propaganda as far back as the 50s during the overthrow of governments.

Then,you're shifting the goalpost .The conversation started with you dismissing this particular horrific investigation into sex trafficking in Dubai because you doubt the BBC. Till this moment, you've still not addressed a single factual claim within the report.

Oga listen,I didn't not claim the BBC is 100% or perfect, nothing is ,in fact; I clearly stated that they've a public 'Correction and Clarification' page where they officially acknowledge and amend errors. This mechanism which they've is a sign of integrity,not weakness. All reputable news organisations have them.

However, this particular investigation stands on its own overwhelming evidence: Corroborated victims testimonies, undercover evidence, Corroboration from a former insider, and documentary evidence.

Your argument is a perfect example of the 'genetic fallacy', dismissing a claim based on its source rather than its actual content. You can't dismiss this mountain of evidence by mentioning unrelated controversies from the 1950s. It doesn't work that way.

So,,for the final time, If you think this particular report is not factual, engage with its content. Mention a particular piece of evidence,, a claim, a testimony,or document, that you confirm is fabricated.Until you do that,your criticism remains a vague, baseless opinion that disrespectfully ignore the traumatic experiences of the victims who took the courage to come forward .

And I hope you're not one of those Trump supporters who have been brainwashed by him that both the CNN and BBC are false news outlets?. Your kind of argument make me suspect that

Goo0dHardDick:
Tbis f..oulishness needs to stop.

This clout chasing is getting too much.

Indians have been cooking with larger pots since the creation of the world yet they don't make noise about it.

Ever wonder why USA, UK, Germany, China, Canada, Australia and other sane countries don't engage in this trash? Because they are busy thinking of the way forward for their countries and not engaging on trash like this

You and your likes can continue to focus on the mundane: the pot and the jollof rice, while others who can see beyond that continue to focus on Hilda's ambition as a source of inspiration for others in other fields of human endeavour to dream big and believe they can actualise it.

You claim Indians have been doing the same thing without providing evidence for us to determine if theirs is in the same scale as Hilda's.

BTW, Indians don't cook jollof rice. Hilda's record is for the largest pot of jollof rice.

But as I already mentioned, the goal is not in the pot of rice , but the ambition to dream big and make it happen. If most Nigerians think like her, they will do great things.

Softmirror:
Does BBC issue apology and acknowledged factually incorrect elements in their reports after being challenged?!

True or False? Let's start from there.

You've asked me to prove a negative ,that the BBC never accept mistakes..That's not how to debate. You're the one making the positive claim,that their reports are usually not factual and unacknowledged. So, the burden is on you to bring specific instances to support your accusation.

However, to answer your question directly, Yes it's true that the BBC does issues apologies and acknowledges errors in their reports .

They maintain a dedicated ' Corrections and Clarification ' page where they publicly document and apologise for inaccuracy and impartiality .

They have issued corrections for errors in reporting statistics and misrepresenting sources.

The existence of this public transperent mechanism, which you can verify yourself, contradicts your suggestions that they never accept mistakes .All serious news organisations have them and it's a sign of credibility, not the opposite.

Your other point about ' fake report ' is a common deflection tactic used by those who have been exposed. The perpetrator in this sex trafficking case has every right to dismiss the BBC's investigative work as false. His reputation and freedom is on the line. The BBC's report isn't based on his opinion, but meticulously gathered evidence


Dismissing the evidence because you believe the source is not to be trusted, without providing a single piece of counter evidence is not skepticism , it's willful ignorance .

So, if you want to question this report's truthfulness, mention a specific factual inaccuracy within it. If you want to question the BBC's overalll credibility, provide your specific instances of the unacknowledged mistakes you claim exist. Without that, your argument is baseless

Softmirror:
The exact answer I was expecting. Well, before this age of 'FAKE NEWS'. Fabricating lies been a long time mastered trade by BBC since many decades international politics and affairs.

I don't have any evidence to prove this story to be untrue. But the credibility of BBC is not 100% through the ages.

Your accusation lacks evidence and is contradicted by the BBC's longstanding editorial standard .
You mention that BBC has 'mastered fabricating lies' for decades, yet you fail to provide specific examples, dates, or events to support this claim. Without evidence, this remains an unsupported opinion rather than a factual statement.

Softmirror:
So what if it was carried by BBC? What does that mean?!

It means credibility.

The BBC 's reputation is built on factual reporting.

Moreover , they're one of the reputable news organisation in the world.

Furthermore , they have a global reputation and strict editorial guidelines to uphold.

And finally , they wouldn't rrisk their entire credibility and face massive legal repercussions by publishing a fabricated investigation ,especially one of this gravity . This wasn't a blog post,it was a formal, vetted, investigative ,piece, with names and faces of real people.

meobizy:
Without videos and pictures past vanilla sex acts.

Your demand for video evidence of these degrading sexual acts is problematic from an ethical and legal standpoint.

Distributing videos of sexual assault and degradation would be a further exploitation of the victims. It would permanently circulate their trauma online for public consumption, violating their dignity and privacy. A credible news organization like the BBC has a duty to protect victims, not exploit them for evidence.

You should also expect that perpetrators to enforce strict rules (no use of cameras) to avoid leaving evidence that could lead to prosecution, the same way strip clubs operate. You're never allowed to use your phone to record anything that goes on within such places .

In any case, the report contained enough evidence. Evidence is not always in pictures and videos.

meobizy:
I’ve heard of this porta potty nonsense for almost fifteen years. Zero evidence. I don’t believe it. Men are quick to brag about conquests. Local boys on Nairaland bypass rules to post pictures of prostitutes they pay for. How come no one in two decades has posted a single video?

The investigation was carried out by the BBC. Read it first before dismissing it as untrue.

within two weeks that debt had doubled.

"Money for air tickets, for your visa, for where you're sleeping, food," says Mia.

"That means you have to work hard, hard, hard, pleading for men to come and sleep [with] you."

Monic owed Mr Mwesigwa more than $27,000 (£19,918) after several weeks, according to what a relative of hers we are calling Michael says she told him. He adds that he received tearful voice notes from her.

Family handout Monic smiles at the camera - she is wearing a yellow and white lace dress with a yellow shirt over the topFamily handout
Monic grew up with 10 siblings in rural Uganda
Mia told us that clients were mostly white Europeans, and included men with extreme fetishes.

"There's this one client, he poops on girls. He poops and he tells them to eat the shit," she explained quietly.

Another woman we are calling Lexi, who says she was tricked by a different network, echoed Mia's story, saying "porta potty" requests were frequent.

"There was a client who said: 'We pay you 15,000 Arab Emirates Dirham ($4,084, £3,013) to gang-rape you, pee in your face, beat you, and add in 5,000 ($1,361, £1,004)'" for being recorded eating faeces.

Her experiences have led her to believe there is a racial element to this extreme fetish.

"Every time I said that I wouldn't want to do that, it seemed to get them more interested. They want somebody who is going to cry and scream and run. And that somebody [in their eyes] should be a black person."

Lexi says she tried to get help from the only people she thought could intervene - the police. But she says they told her: "You Africans cause problems for each other. We don't want to get involved. And they would hang up."

We put this allegation to the Dubai police and they did not reply.

Lexi eventually escaped back to Uganda and now helps to rescue and support women in similar situations.


Finding Charles Mwesigwa wasn't easy. We could only find one picture of him online - and it was taken from behind. He also uses multiple names across social media.

But through a combination of open-source intelligence, undercover research, and information from a former member of his network, we traced him to a middle class neighbourhood in Dubai - Jumeirah Village Circle.

To corroborate what sources had told us about his business - supplying women for degrading sex acts - we sent in an undercover reporter posing as an event organiser sourcing women for high-end parties.

Mr Mwesigwa appeared calm and confident when speaking about his business.

Undercover image of Charles Mwesigwa. He is looking down and wearing a black and white vertical-striped top. In the bottom of the frame is part of what appears to be his UK driving licence.
Mr Mwesigwa showed us his UK driving licence and said he was a former London bus driver
"We've got like 25 girls," he said. "Many are open-minded… they can do pretty much everything."

He explained the cost - from $1,000 (£738) per girl per night, but more for "crazy stuff". He invited our reporter for a "sample night".

When asked about "Dubai porta potty" he replied: "I've told you, they are open-minded. When I say open-minded… I will send you the craziest I have."

In the course of the conversation, Mr Mwesigwa said he used to be a London bus driver. We have seen evidence he put that occupation down on an official document in east London in 2006.

He went on to tell our reporter that he loved this business.

"I could win the lottery, a million pounds, but I would still do it… it's become part of me."

Troy, a man who says he used to act as operations manager for Mr Mwesigwa's network, gave us more information about how he says it is run.

Troy is wearing a black bobble hat, cream collared-top, has a beard and an earring and a distinctive anchor tattoo on his forehead
Troy says he used to work as a driver and then an operations manager for Charles Mwesigwa
He says Mr Mwesigwa pays off security at various nightclubs so they will let his women in to find clients.

"I've heard about types of sex that I've never seen in my life. It doesn't matter what you go through as long as his rich men are happy… [the women] have no escape route…They see musicians, they see footballers, they see presidents."

Mr Mwesigwa has been able to get away with running this operation, Troy claims, because Troy and others are not just used as drivers. He says their names are also used by Mr Mwesigwa to hire cars and apartments, so that his own name never appears on the paperwork.

On 27 April 2022, Monic posted a selfie from Al Barsha - a residential neighbourhood popular with expats in Dubai. Four days later, she was dead. She had been in the emirate for just four months.

According to Mia, Monic and Mr Mwesigwa had been regularly arguing in the period before she left. Mia says Monic had been refusing to comply with Mr Mwesigwa's demands and had found a way out of his network.

"She had got some kind of job. She was very excited. She thought she was gonna get free, she was going to get her life back because now that was a real job, no sleeping with men," Mia says.

Monic moved out to a different apartment about 10 minutes' walk away. It was from this apartment's balcony that she fell on 1 May 2022.


The final selfie Monic posted before she died
Monic's relative Michael, who was in the UAE at the time she died, says he tried to get answers.

Police told him they stopped their investigation, having found drugs and alcohol in the apartment Monic had fallen from, and only her fingerprints on the balcony, he says.

He obtained a death certificate for Monic from a hospital, but it did not say how she had died. And her family were unable to obtain a toxicology report for her.

But a Ghanaian man living in the apartment building was more helpful, he says, taking him to another block to meet the man he said was Monic's boss.

Michael describes the scene when he got there and saw where the women were housed.

He says through the cloud of shisha smoke in the living room, he made out what looked like cocaine on the table and women having sex on chairs with clients.

He claims he found the man we had previously identified as Charles Mwesigwa in bed with two women, and that when he tried to drag him to the police Mr Mwesigwa replied: "I have spent 25 years in Dubai. Dubai is mine… There is no way you are going to report me… Embassy is me, I'm the embassy.

"[Monic's] not the first to die. And she won't be the last," he added, according to Michael.

Mia and Keira both independently say they witnessed this conversation and both confirm its wording. When we asked Mr Mwesigwa what he meant by this, he denied having said it.

Monic's death shares haunting similarities with that of Kayla Birungi, another Ugandan woman who lived in the same neighbourhood as her, and died in 2021 after falling from a Dubai high-rise apartment which we have evidence to suggest was managed by Charles Mwesigwa.

The phone number for her landlord, shared with us by Kayla's family, turned out to be one of Mr Mwesigwa's numbers. Troy also confirms that Mr Mwesigwa managed the apartment, as do four other women we spoke to for this investigation.


Kayla Birungi, another Ugandan, also died after falling from a Dubai high-rise building
Kayla's relatives say that they - like Monic's family - heard Kayla's death had been linked to alcohol and drugs. But a toxicology report seen by the BBC shows none were present in her system at the time of her death.

While Kayla's family was able to repatriate her body and hold a burial, Monic's remains were never returned.

Our investigation found she was likely buried in a section of Dubai's Al Qusais Cemetery known as "The Unknown". It features rows and rows of unmarked graves, typically thought to belong to migrants whose family couldn't repatriate their bodies.

Monic and Kayla were part of a wider, unofficial pipeline connecting Uganda to the Gulf.

As Uganda wrestles with rising youth unemployment, moving to work abroad - mainly in the Gulf states - has become a huge industry that contributes $1.2bn (£885m) of tax revenue to the country each year.

But these opportunities can carry a risk.

Mariam Mwiza, a Ugandan activist against exploitation, says she has helped rescue more than 700 people from around the Gulf.

"We get cases of people who have been promised to work, let's say, in a supermarket. Then [that person] ends up sold as a prostitute," she told us.

Four members of Monic's family including her mother hold up framed photos of Monic
Monic's family in rural Uganda say Monic always had the ambition to seek a better life
For Monic's family, grief is now tangled with fear. Fear for other families who could suffer the same loss they have, if nothing is done.

"We are all looking at Monica's death," her relative Michael told us. "But who is there for the girls still alive? They're still there. Still suffering."

The BBC asked Charles "Abbey" Mwesigwa to respond to all the allegations made in our investigation. He denied running an illegal prostitution ring.

He said: "These are all false allegations.

"I told you I am just a party person who invites big spenders on my tables, hence making many girls flock [to] my table. That makes me know many girls and that's it."

He also said: "[Monic] died with her passport meaning no-one was demanding her money for taking her. Prior to her death, I hadn't seen her for over four to five weeks.

"I knew [Monic and Kayla] and [they] were renting with different landlords. If no-one in both flats was arrested or any of the landlords, then there was a reason. Both incidents were investigated by the Dubai police and maybe they can help you."

The BBC contacted Al Barsha Police Station to request to see the case files for Monic Karungi and Kayla Birungi. It did not respond to that request or to allegations Monica and Kayla's deaths had not been properly investigated.

The BBC was unable to see any toxicology reports in relation to Monic Karungi, or speak to the landlord of the apartment in which she was living when she died.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OboT09uRw6M?si=ySOEhoPRrC2Nmfiu

A groundbreaking investigative report from the BBC has finally uncovered the truth behind long-standing rumors about Nigerian women and women from other African countries being trafficked into a world of exploitative and degrading sexual trade in Dubai. The findings are both conclusive and horrifying.

I'm sharing the report below because this is a story that demands our attention. Please read the beginning excerpt, and use the link to access the full investigation.

A man running a sex ring operating out of Dubai's most glamorous neighbourhoods, and exploiting vulnerable women, has been identified by a BBC investigation.

Charles Mwesigwa, who says he is a former London bus driver, told our undercover reporter he could provide women for a sex party at a starting price of $1,000 (£740), adding that many can do "pretty much everything" clients want them to.

Rumours of wild sex parties in the UAE emirate have circulated for years. The hashtag #Dubaiportapotty, which has been viewed more than 450 million times on TikTok, links to parodies and speculative exposés of women accused of being money-hungry influencers secretly funding their lifestyles by fulfilling the most excessive of sexual requests.

Our BBC World Service investigation was told the reality is even darker.

Young Ugandan women told us they had not expected to have to undertake sex work for Mr Mwesigwa. In some cases, they believed they were travelling to the UAE to work in places like supermarkets or hotels.

At least one of Mr Mwesigwa's clients regularly asks to defecate on the women, according to "Mia", whose name we have changed to protect her identity, and who says she was trapped by Mr Mwesigwa's network.

Mr Mwesigwa denies the allegations. He says he helps women find accommodation through landlords, and that women follow him to parties because of his wealthy Dubai contacts.

We have also discovered that two women linked to Mr Mwesigwa have died, having fallen from high-rise apartments. Although their deaths were ruled as suicides, their friends and family feel the police should have investigated further.

Mr Mwesigwa said the incidents were investigated by the Dubai police and asked us to contact them for information. They did not reply to our request.

Source
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2r9y3kxy9o


Below is the final selfie posted by one of the victims before she died

yinkus6750:
The collapsed pot and the point of weighing was a different aspect of her ambition.
That was just to confirm the volume of rice cooked
She achieved her aim, as cooking was fully completed, and tasting partially started.
Lessons learnt, sure she will give it another trial

Thank you for this comment.

I wonder why some persons are ignoring her entire achievement to focus on what's not relevant. Her goal was to set a record for the largest pot of jollof rice ever cooked, not to construct the largest cooking pot in the world or the most tasty pot of jollof rice .

VBCampaign:
While at the same time we must recognise the concept of a just war...

It's ironic to read you champion the "concept of a just war " while displaying such a clear misunderstanding of what it legally entails. Your personal justification can never be a substitute for international law.

When I have the time, I will come up with a detailed response to the numerous inaccuracies and half truths in your main article.

I hope you read it and offer a meaningful reply, because from what I have observed, you're often unwilling to respond to direct criticism of your work, preferring to pick and choose what you reply to. In any case ,the choice to respond is yours, but at the very least, others who will read it , will have access to a more balanced viewpoint on the situation in the Middle East .

Jaymats:
Dey play u hear. You go dey alright las las na here we go dey.

I'm not interested in your emotional talk . Just provide evidence for your claim that what you predicted since last year as happened . Provide the stats to back it up.That's all.

I said,NLC is demanding for an upward review of the minimum wage because what was approved last year wasn't enough . If you disagree with this, convince me otherwise.

Jaymats:
Can't stop laughing...

So what I said then later happened. I said increasing the wages at this moment will skyrocket inflation and market people will step in and hike prices of commodity without thinking twice. I said why not put the pressure on the govt to reverse some of its economy policies with non negotiable stand at last it will yield and both party will move on well but hatred and election losers hijacked NLC and turned it to political weapon to the detriment of the populace now here we go.

Una go hear word by force...

Don't deceive yourself. What you said hasn't happened. The reverse is what has happened.

The reason workers are calling for an upward review is because the last one wasn't enough. They only accepted it since the president promised to review it after 3 years.

Prices of basic foodstuffs and other essential commodities have remained stable, in fact, some have experienced reduction in prices, like garri, rice beans and even eggs.

You were amongst those who predicted a load of bread will increase to 5k once minimum wage is increased . Is it 5k now?

MrPresident1:
She didn't deny anything. The denial is in your head. Setting up a Palestinian nation after Jordan is simply incongruous. An independent Palestinian state made up of Arabs after you have Jordan? Peopled by who? That's ridiculous. That is the crux of this thread, that there can be no independent nation made up of Arabs who now call themselves Palestinians when there is Jordan.

The claim that 'Jordan is Palestine' is a well-known myth that has been debunked long ago.

Jordan and Palestine were separate administrative entities under the British Mandate.
Moreover, Jordan itself renounced all claims to the West Bank in 1988 and recognizes the PLO as the sole representative of the Palestinian people. They are a strong supporter of the two-state solution.

Furthermore, granting some Palestinians Jordanian citizenship was a humanitarian act, not an absorption of their national identity. Millions of Palestinians in the diaspora were never granted citizenship and remain stateless. Palestinians from Gaza living in Jordan hold only temporary travel documents, lack citizenship and are denied basic rights like access to education, employment and public health.

Finally, Palestinian national identity is tied to their homeland in the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem, not Jordan. Using this myth to deny their right to self-determination in their ancestral land is a transparent political tactic, not a serious argument.

This response is for anyone following this discussion who may have been misled by the claim that 'Jordan is Palestine.' That assertion is a politically motivated myth, not a historical fact, and I have just provided the evidence to debunk it.

If you wish to verify this information yourself, I encourage you to research these authoritative sources:

1. Amnesty International's reports on the status of Palestinian refugees in Jordan, which detail the discrimination and statelessness faced by many, particularly those from Gaza .
2. Jordan's Nationality Law of 1954, which legally formalized the distinction between Jordanian citizens and Palestinian residents .
3. Historical accounts of Jordan's disengagement from the West Bank in 1988, when the Jordanian government officially renounced all administrative and legal claims to the territory, recognizing the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) as the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people .

You can also use fact-checking platforms to ask the question directly: 'Is Jordan the country for Palestinian Arabs?'

Do not allow anyone to deceive you with oversimplified lies and ahistorical conspiracy theories. The truth is documented and accessible.

Thank you.

MrPresident1:
Can Yoruba arrogate Nigerian nationality solely to themselves? No. You lie there by claiming that Palestinian nationality belongs solely to Arabs. The Palestinian identity belongs to all who are living in that geographical location.

And you continue to misrepresent me. I never said it belongs "solely to the Arabs" Where did I say so. I said nobody can claim it. Go back and reread.

Arabized Arabs? Like Yorubanised Yoruba or Igbonised Igbo or Hausanised Hausa? Lol. You claimed that Palestinian was a sole ethnic group. This is what you said below:

I have seen the video before. However, Golda Meir' 's claims in it do not prove that the Palestinians didn't exist. Instead, they prove that she wanted a gullible public to believe they didn't exist. It was a strategic move to legitimize her own people's claim to the land of Palestine following the creation of the Jewish state in 1948.

Nothing in what I stated above confirms your accusation. My point was not to confirm Palestinians as a single ethnic group, but to demonstrate that Golda Meir's statement contradicts authentic history.

The question to you is which of the Palestinian group, the Jewish or the Arabs, was she trying to prove that they didn't exist, after claiming that she is Palestinian? Which of them was she trying to delegitimise? She said she is Palestinian, what is your problem with that? Is Palestinian identity only for the Arabs?

You've misunderstood my main argument.

Golda Meir stated that she had a Palestinian passport. This was a factual statement about a legal document issued to all inhabitants under the British Mandate. She used this to claim a personal connection to the land.

However, in the very same interview, she then declared that 'there was no such thing as Palestinians' and that the land was essentially empty 'desolate'.

This is serious contradiction. She wasn't trying to delegitimize Jewish claims, she was leveraging her own documented history to delegitimize the centuries-long presence and the very existence of the indigenous Arab population.

My problem is not with her holding a passport or identifying as palestinian before 1948 .My problem is with her using that passport as proof of her own belonging while simultaneously arguing that the other people living there, the Arab majority, were a fiction and that their land was barren. This was a strategic lie to deny their historical claim to the territory.

Alaye, leave my thread. Go and write yours and peddle your untruths there. Where are the links to the references you gave, put the links here. Put the links let us all read them. OK. We want to read your sources, we don't want to behave like the typical Africans anymore, put your links here!

I already did that. I listed some books and other materials but you ignored them. So, not anymore.

You said she tried to suppress the truth. You said she tried to delegitimise 'Palestinians', which Palestinian was she trying to delegitimise, was she trying to delegitimise herself? Does changing the name of nationality from Palestinian to Jewish erase the fact that she and other jewish were Palestinians?

It seems you are conflating two separate ideas, either unintentionally or deliberately.

My argument was never that Golda Meir was trying to delegitimize the modern people known as Palestinians. My point is that her statement was specifically designed to delegitimize their historical claim to the land.


Changing a nationality from 'Palestinian' to 'Israeli' after 1948 doesn't erase the historical fact that Jews lived there as Palestinians under the Mandate. But by 1969, Meir was willfully using that past fact to deny the equally long and deep roots of the Arab population. That is the suppression of truth I referred to.

This is my thread. Leave my thread!

Post the links to your untruths. We want to read where you got your untruths from, post links let us read!

How did the Arabs become more Palestinian than the Jewish? They were all Palestinians. Then one chose to singularly adopt the name, and posture as modern day 'Palestinians'. The land between the Mediterranean and the Iraq border is Palestine, and anyone found in that location is a Palestinian.

There is no such thing as modern Palestinians! The name cannot be adopted unilaterally by anyone!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixbdlUhELoU&pp=ygUkZ29sZGEgbWVpciBpbnRlcnZpZXcgaSdtIHBhbGVzdGluaWFu

The bolded statement is very absurd ,and exposes your misunderstanding of the concepts of nationhood and statehood.

It's completely untrue that everyone within that vast territory identifies as Palestinian or must be a Palestinian .Nationality is a political and cultural identity, not merely a geographic location.

In the past,Arabs, Jews, and others, carried Palestinian passports and were legally termed 'Palestinians.' However, after the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, Jewish Israelis dropped that identity to adopt a new national one based on their newfound statehood. They did not cease to live in the region, their national identity changed.

The logic in your argument is as flawed as claiming that every person in West Africa is Nigerian.

An analogy is needed at this point to help you understand better. If the Igbo or Yoruba people were granted their own independent country in the future, they would no longer identify as Nigerians, despite still living within the geographic area the colonial masters once named 'Nigeria.' They would be citizens of their new nation: Biafrans or ........

Palestinian is not a blanket term for a geographic area; it is currently the national identity of the Arab people who originated from the land of Mandatory Palestine and who, unlike their Jewish counterparts, did not achieve statehood and thus retained the name to describe their national aspirations.

Honestly, this would be last reply to you. Sorry to say, your arguments are misleading and deceptive.

Thank you.

MrPresident1:
The crux is this thread is about trying to understand why the term Palestinian is now ascribed to only the Arabs of Gaza who are being killed by the Israelis. Golda Meir told us that this is incongruous. You came here telling us that she is suppressing the truth. What truth was she suppressing, that Palestine is not a cover term for both Jewish and Arab? You came here trying to prove a a mono ethnic Palestine, you are wrong. They are all Palestinians from the Mediterranean to the Iraqi border. There is no such thing as a Palestinian nationality that belongs exclusively to only the Arabs!




I am not arguing any desolate with you, it is subject to varied interpretation, but Palestine wasn't exactly eldorado when the Arabs were living there. You said she suppressed the truth, what truth did she suppress? Is the suppression of truth not tantamount to lying? Where is the lie that the whole place was Palestine? Where is the lie when she said she was Palestinian?

The state of Palestine that is going to be recognised this September is an incongruity, this is the whole essence of this thread, there can be no state of Palestine inhabited only by Arabs, that cannot not true!

You can leave my thread when you are tired of not saying the truth.



Who are the Palestinians you are referring to here? Which Palestinian, Jewish Palestinians or Arab Palestinians? You see that what you wrote is not true? Strategic move to legitimise her people, did she claim to not be Palestinian? Who are Palestinians and where is the land of Palestine?

You tried to spin Palestinians as only one population of people, you are wrong.

I see your problem now: Inability to comprehend what you read.

Listen, Palestinians or Palestine represents national identity. It's not a "thing " you can grab and put in your pocket. It doesn't belong to anybody.

Moreover, Palestinians Arabs aren't"pure " Arabs,but Arabized Arabs. They became so after the Muslim conquest of their land. Palestinians, like other countries of the world aren't made up of just one ethnic group. Do I even need to tell you this? Na Wah o. Na me look for trouble. The answers to the questions you keep repeating like a bot are correctly answered in the reference materials I shared,but you won't read them because you're afraid to know the truth. Africans don't like to read, and you have proven that on this thread of yours.

After all your wayward comments, you failed to provide what I asked for: where did I say Meir lied about her Palestinian root. Yes, where is it? SMH

I done with you. I'm no longer interested in responding to your confusing, misleading and unsupported claims about Palestine and Palestinians. I have provided you with valid reference source for the things I have said here ,but for you, it's what you think, imagine and believe you have been responding with. Sorry, I have better things to do with my time
Thanks

MrPresident1:
This is contrary to all you ever said on this thread. Who made the Arabs of Gaza and the West bank the sole and unique claimant to the Palestinian identity is the question this thread is asking.

Nothing is contrary here. Nobody has made them the sole and unique claimant. If you are from that region and you want to identify as a Palestinian, you are free to do so. And I said, the Palestinians aren't pure Arabs, but Arabized Arabs. Google to know what to means.

Golda Meir said everyone in that region is a Palestinian, you said she lied. Who is the liar now? Anyone who claims a name or identifier that belongs to someone is an identity thief and a creator of confusion.

You are the liar because I never said Meir lied about her Palestinians identity. The lie concerns the land been " desolate".

If you don't show me in your next reply where I said Meir lied about her Palestinian identity, forget it and don't bother me again.

Thank you