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budaatum:
Are you suggesting FxMasterz and others who cleared buda of your nefarious allegations are fools who can not reason with their own minds?

You, sir, doth protest too much, and are like one who calls thief on an innocent person so the mob can help you burn them, only to find the supposed mob is far too intelligent to do your evil will.

No one is being called a fool for their opinion. The problem is that a "judgment" was passed based on a complete misrepresentation of the facts.

The core of my accusation was never about whether an atheist can "share educative materials." The accusation, backed by evidence, is that you:

Promoted and advertised Amorc for membership and providing recruitment links.

You passionately defended AMORC's specific doctrines from criticism, acting as a guardian of their beliefs.
These are the actions of an advocate or a member, not a neutral atheist. The "clearing" you received was based on the fabricated premise that this was only about "sharing information". It was not. it was about recruitment and defense

You are the one protesting, and you "doth protest too much" because you have been caught. Instead of addressing the specific evidence of your promotional activities, you hide behind irrelevant analogies about mobs and thieves, hoping to gaslight everyone into forgetting what this is actually about

The "supposed mob" is being misled by you. I am simply reminding them of the actual charges and the actual evidence you have repeatedly failed to address. So, please stop running from the facts

LordReed:
I was responding to FxMasterz and apparently, he sees the point. If you think your accusation has not been properly addressed, then that's between you and budaatum.

I understand you. But your reply misrepresented the issue for him,making him think it has to do with just sharing educative materials.

budaatum:
The below is from your initial post on this thread. It is a judgement, and based on you not even knowing at the time that budaatum is not sonmyavina (your apology for the mixup is accepted by the way), and you even mentioned your support for Maxindhouse who's only contribution to the thread was also a judgement.



What's a pity is you now claim not to have had the time to check the available evidence, which makes me think of you as one of those people who hear others shout "thief", so you "draw an inference" and join in putting a tyre around the person's neck and pouring petrol and setting the accused alight without a trial and because you did not have the time to check if the person you were burning was really a thief!

Your action here could have resulted in a tragedy, but thankfully no one got burnt, and I hope you learn from your action, because if you are one who draws inferences, instead of spending time researching as you have not done here, in FX that you claim to be a master in, I can see you on the losing side of profitable trades very often.

@FxMasterz, do not be gaslit by this dramatic analogy. This is a distraction from the facts I just laid out

Budaatum is trying to make you feel guilty for considering the evidence, comparing it to a mob action. That is absurd. I have presented specific, documented evidence of promotion and defense,not mere inference

Ignore his noise and look at the evidence I just provided, the recruitment post and the passionate defenses and judge for yourself. The facts are clear and speak for themselves

FxMasterz:
Buda is cleared.

Triplechoice should take note.

However, I have never witnessed any Nairaland atheist sharing religious materials for the purpose of education except for criticism.

If that means atheists don't have the same constraints religious people have, it means atheists don't actually know what they're doing. I cannot teach anyone about something I don't believe in. That's hypocrisy.

Buda is cleared of being called out for hypocrisy but lordreed has said it's a general thing among atheists.

No. He is not cleared. He misrepresented the issue for you hence the reason you cleared him. He succeeded because I have not been around to challenge his nonsense.

OLAADEGBU:
@triplechoice,

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it’s probably a duck.

https://www.nairaland.com/8566179/appeal-investigate-hidden-evidence-harassment#137550260

Yes, you are very correct. Let Buda continue to deceive himself. He is no atheist. He uses the fabricated atheist persona so no one here mock him for his spiritual beliefs.

Use the link below to reach the thread where he advertised for Amorc to recruit new members.

https://www.nairaland.com/302215/manifesto-positio-fraternitatis-rosae-crucis#4289185

Here again is where he passionately defend AMORC from attacks. There others too . This is just one instance where he defended the group.

https://www.nairaland.com/4793988/mystical-life/3#111529979

budaatum:
FxMasterz, this your addition is not true, or at best, it is faulty.

When you "teach" what you believe in, you are not teaching at all, and all you are doing is indoctrinate.

When some teach, they are teaching you to use your own mind so you better develop as a human being.

This is the difference between me reading the bible and even posting about Amorc books and using them as teaching tools, and a religious person indoctrinating with it. And it is what confuses many like triple who seek beliefs instead of understanding.

When I read about Jesus Christ, I see all his teachings as "seek knowledge, and seek understanding", and that is the sense in which I adore what is written about him. He is after all written to be the Word in the most gnostic of the Gospels, so why would one read only the bread?

For me, if God were to put me in the Garden of Eden and Jesus were to walk by, it is he, and not some serpent, who would pluck the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and shove it down my throat, if I didn't already steal it to eat by myself, and he'd even go get me the fruit of the tree of life and feed me that too, because if he didn't, he'd definitely fail in ensuring I live for a long enough time if not forever.

This is not what I think the Bible writers intended for us reading the Old Testament now in the 21st century though, but they can not possibly keep us enslaved by indoctrination for ever because a Jesus was always going to come and open our eyes and free our minds from ignorant slavery, as he did.

And on this note, let me express my most sincere gratitude to triplechoice for this thread. The Gods (imaginary, mind!), have indeed used you triplefold.

Shut it. You cannot confuse me. You can only confuse yourself and those whom you consider fools.

LordReed:
Ehhh, this is not correct. Atheists share educative materials about religion. Atheists don't have that kind of constraint you religious people usually have ie thinking that sharing religious material means you believe or are promoting that religion. You for instance would never go to the Islam section because you don't want that badge on your profile, you think it makes you somehow treacherous to your religion, an atheist has no such qualms.

Your response completely misses the point and misrepresents the nature of my accusation. This was never about whether an atheist can "share educative materials"

The issue is the context, content, and intent behind Buda' s actions,which go far beyond neutral sharing .

An atheist might share a Bible verse to critique it . Buda created a post advertising the benefits of joining AMORC, using the word, "We", and providing direct links for recruitment.No principled atheist recruits for spiritual organisation whose core tenets they reject.

Moreover, an atheist critiques religious claims. Budaatum has a history of passionately defending AMORC 's specific doctrines and materials from external criticism. He acts as a guardian of their beliefs,not a Skeptic of them.

Furthermore, if Budaatum is a true atheist,he should reject AMORC's teachings on the soul, cosmic consciousness,and mental alchemy as unscientific. So why would he promote and defend books containing these very doctrines?. This is the heart of the intellectual dishonesty .

Sharing a religious text for critical analysis is one thing.Actively recruiting for a religious-esoteric order and defending its dogma is another. The former is consistent with atheism, the latter is the behaviour of an advocate or a member

The evidence shows Budaatum has consistently done the latter. That's the accusation, and it remains unaddressed

Please don't allow Budaatum to trick you and make you defend him concerning this.

He has no reasonable defense to give.

Here below is an screenshot of the post where Budaatum advertised the benefits of joining Amorc, attaching contact details for whom to contact in Nigeria and with a link to download their Introductory material for potential new members.

And you call this what?

Sharing educational materials. Abeg

@FxMasterz ,I have been engaged with other things hence the reason I couldn't reply immediately to Budaatum latest attempt to create confusion. Look at the image below and ask Lordreed how is it equivalent to sharing educational materials about AMORC.


Use the link below to visit the thread where it was taken from .The title of the thread alone is enough for anyone who knows about the Order to know it was created by an initiate of the group. I just dey laugh.

https://www.nairaland.com/302215/manifesto-positio-fraternitatis-rosae-crucis#4289185

HeatSeeker:

Do you need a bucket to cry into since your feelings are hurt?

HeatSeeker:
Budatum is walking away from this thread smelling like roses. Do you know why?! Check yourself very well and understand the true depth of your failure.

I am not responsible for your feelings and you are entitled to your personal opinion.

HeatSeeker:
Something scandalously entertaining. Something controversial. Something thought provoking. Something that will shake the very foundation of the whole Nairaland!

The Op over promised and severely under delivered with this thread of his.

Your comment is a revealing indictment to why serious issues often get ignored in favor of mere spectacle.

At no point did I promise you, or anyone, a scandalous circus. The title of this thread is "An appeal to investigate hidden evidence and harassment." Its purpose was clearly stated: to present documented facts to end a campaign of harassment and intellectual dishonesty.

You were expecting to be "entertained" by a personal drama. I was presenting a factual case, with evidence, to establish the truth. The fact that you find a meticulous presentation of evidence "disappointing" says more about your expectations than the content of this thread.

This was never designed for your amusement. It was a methodical effort to uncover the truth and hold someone accountable for their actions. If you cannot discern between a serious appeal for justice and cheap entertainment, that is a personal failure of perception, not a failure of this thread.

The "foundation of Nairaland" is built on the free exchange of ideas, which includes the right to seriously address misconduct without having to package it as a reality show. I have delivered exactly what I promised: a clear, evidence-based account. Your disappointment is irrelevant to that fact.

FxMasterz:
Can you answer my question?

There are many presidential candidates in Nigeria. If I promote Tinubu or anything that has to do with him, whom do you think I believe in among the available candidates?

@FxMasterz, your analogy is perfect. If you consistently promote Tinubu's manifesto, defend his policies from critics, and share links for people to join his campaign, no rational person would believe you are neutral.

Buda is doing the equivalent for Amorc on Nairaland. He promoted their materials, defended their core doctrinal text which contains their spiritual beliefs, and provided recruitment links. The logical conclusion is the same in both cases. He is an advocate, not a neutral observer

His continued evasion of this simple, logical
point only proves he has no honest answer to give you.

He wants to waste your time.

budaatum:
So. "promoted Amorc materials", makes you believe buda "belongs to the cult".

This must be how some peoples' minds must work I guess, as Triple's too works, but forgive me for not bothering to clear the air about your belief, since its your belief, which you are very free and entitled to believe if you wish.

Your attempt to reduce this to a simple "promotion" equals " membership is another deliberate evasion, Buda'. The evidence which you continue to ignore,is a pattern of behaviour that is irreconcilable with with a genuine atheist stance.

Moreover, you didn't just "share materials". You made a post in a thread you created that made use of the first person personal pronoun, "we", not third person, They ", and advertised the benefits of joining. At the end of the post you provided links for whom to contact in Nigeria and their Introductory materials for download This is advocacy,not neutral sharing . I have explained this over and over again but you continue to deflect away from it.

Furthermore, you also have a history of vehemently defending Amorc's doctrines from criticism,, an action that makes no sense for an atheist,who should, by definition, reject its unscientific and spiritual claims

A consistent atheist worldview rejects not just a deity, but the entire supernatural framework, including the " mental alchemy" , "cosmic consciousness" and invisible brotherhood that Amorc teaches. Your selective " God-only", atheism is an obvious loophole to hide this contradictions.

Instead of addressing the substantial evidence, you continue to resort to condescension and ad hominem attacks. This is tactic of someone who has been defeated on the facts and is now clutching at straws.

Finally,your inability to engage with the actual argument is more revealing than any "evidence" you demand from others

No matter what you say,you are not an atheist. Full stop. Just be yourself. That's all.

DeepSight:
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Ah well, if I was not mentioned, I would not even follow the discussion (which I have mostly skipped).

If I were you, I would ignore the conversation entirely.

If I I were triplechoice, I would not bother bringing it up.

End of.

Thanks for your fair and balanced assesment @Deepsight. I sincerely appreciate that you've approached this without taking sides

You're correct that ignoring the conversation would have been the simpler path. And under normal circumstances, that is exactly what I would have done. However, there is a reason I chose to reply this time

I've always valued clarity and intellectual honesty in discourse. I read English and so you can understand where I am coming from ..

I have been on this forum for long but never participated in any discussion,but just reading comments until 2018 when I was drawn to the writings of members like Sarassin,loj and yourself because of the respect and simplicity in your style. There was no pretense, no obfuscation, just straightforward, honest discussion. In a faceless forum where people can be anyone. The way a person writes reveals their true character.

This is why I finally decided not to ignore Buda' when he resurrected this issue after two years when we have both had several amicable discussions on other topics without quarreling

I believe he was counting on me to ignore him so he could continue to rewrite history unchallenged. You asked why I didn't just ignore him, It's a fair question. But why blame the person who screams when burned by a fire, and not the one who lit the match?

My goal was to end this cycle permanently. By confronting him directly and boxing him into a corner. I forced him to admit the very facts he had suppressed for over two years, the existence of the thread, its movement from its original location, and his role in promoting Amorc. I needed to defeat him in his own territory so he would have no grounds to revive this issue in the future

Yes, you're correct that this has been an unpleasant distraction. But sometimes to ensure a nuisance does not return, you must address it decisively. I believe I have done that now, and consider the matter closed. Everything that has happened after I chose to end the issue is the consequences of his foolish decision to revisit an issue he should forget.

Thank you again for your thoughtful perspective .

Meedon:
This una big big English the confuse me ooo which one cause and uncaused again

Ask @Deepsight to break it down for you

@FxMasterz, I would advise you ignore Buda's direct request. He wants to gaslight you

A person with nothing to hide would not be this desperate to guide your judgement or control the narrative.

The evidence speaks for itself. You're intelligent enough to review it and draw your own conclusions without his manipulative coaching

His behaviour is the very definition of a guilty conscience. A clear conscience fears no accusation

LordReed:
Bwahahahahahaha! My dear budaatum you have been very cheeky. See how they are falling all over themselves to describe you. I hold you responsible. LoLz.

@Lordreed, let me start by sincerely thanking you once again. Your help in securing the screenshot was invaluable and demonstrated a commitment to getting to the truth,for which I am grateful.

This is why feel I need to address your latest comment. The statement ,"see how they are falling over themselves to describe you", shifts the focus away from the substance of the issue and into a realm of personal drama in favour of the other party.


I had hope you would continue in your role as a neutral judge. A fair judgement would ask why the evidence of "advertising" Amorc was withheld for so long, not celebrate the confusion that withholding it caused. Your comment, while perhaps meant in jest, unfortunately makes light of the very deception that was the heart of the problem.

When we debate, I expect the person on the other side to be genuine. Buda refused to do that. He chose to operate behind a disguise to mock and discredit others. That is the core of the issue.

A truthful person with nothing to hide does not withhold exonerating evidence for two years. A truthful person does not secretly bump a thread to a new location and then stay silent when they are accused of deleting it, all to create confusion. He only produced the "evidence" when he was boxed into a corner in this thread. His actions prove his dishonesty.


My goal here on this thread was never to simply "describe" Budaatum. The core of this matter has always been, and remains, a single, demonstrable act of intellectual dishonesty: the deliberate suppression of evidence for two years, only admitting to it when cornered. This is a matter of a action and principle, not an obsession with his online personality.

But to now make a statement that implicitly excuses the dishonesty at the core of this quarrel is, itself taking a side. And I am not saying I am a completely honest person, nobody is.But too much of everything is bad.

And once again, I am not confused and "falling over" to describe Budaatum . I understand the tactics of misdirection and disguise, often employed for self-preservation. My issue was never his affiliation,but his decision to extend that deception to our interactions.

This is why I have decided to disengage. It is futile to seek honest discourse with someone who operates this way, and it is equally futile to debate the principles of honesty with those who would joke them away.

I only blame myself for not ignoring him the first time. He's not the only one here I can interact with so why should I bother myself.

I chose to stand on a point of principle. I have made my case. I now choose to step away. Thank you again for your initial help

FxMasterz:
Thanks for your attempt to expose budaatum but I think you misunderstood him. I also once did. When I first started interacting with him, I thought he is an atheist. Later I found out he's not one.

Budaatum is not deliberately dishonest. He's just very confused. As a result, you could get confused about him because he dishes out his confusions very frequently. That's why Maxindhouse told someone that any conversation with budaatum is one chance.

Thank you for your response, Fxmasterz. I understand why you perceive it as confusion, and many others have been misled by that same impression. However , if you had access to the same information I have about him and the group he belongs to , you would see that his numerous disguises are not sign of confusion, but the very evidence of his affiliation.

His behaviour aligns perfectly with the documented culture of groups like Amorc, which instruct members to conceal their affiliation. The use of disguises and misdirection is a feature of their practice,not a bug. The confusion he creates is a deliberate tactic to make it difficult for anyone to pin him down..

For, instance, if you accuse him of being a secret member of Amorc, he will deflect by asking why you don't accuse him of being a Christian since he also quotes and interpret the Bible

If you question his gender he will gaslight you with a line of the like, ,"So you want to look under my skirt to find out"?, an absurd and illogical response on a faceless forum designed to shame you into silence. It is like someone here claiming to own a Ferrari and living in a mansion, then accusing you of wanting to rob them when you express doubt

The duplicity which I observed in most of their members was what put me off when I was to join them long ago as a teenager. Someone is a member of Amorc, Freemasonry,, Ogboni,voodoist and still goes to church to receive holy communion. Yes, this is what they are known for.

Most of their members hide themselves effectively by pretending to be Christians, especially in a society like ours, where groups like Amorc and the Ogboni are widely regarded as satanic cults. You will often find them in orthodox churches like the catholic church, having gone through the full process of baptism and communion. Some even aspire to the position of a priest in the church. This is not a conspiracy created by me, it is a verifiable strategy to avoid stigmatization and ostracization

There was once an active member of Amorc on this board, I believe his moniker was Frairmathy, who stated that the major requirement for joining Amorc is a belief in a God. He explained that ,as an initiate, he was also a confirmed Catholic. Is that confusion?

From their perspective, it is not. It is how they are encouraged to operate.

So, Buda' is not confused. The confusion he projects is. the very tool he uses to operate here' undetected. After advertising Amorc to recruit new members and sharing their core doctrinal books, he pivots to interpreting the Bible and Quran to create doubt about his true affiliations. When confronted, he defends himself by. saying, " I also quote the Bible or Shakespeare, so. what am I?

But if you have seen his past activities, passionately promoting and defending Amorc, you are left by with no doubt about where his allegiance lies.

He can confuse others with his foolery, but not me. If he had not crossed a line in our discussion, his identity wouldn't concern me. He is not the only member of Amorc here. If my goal was to expose them all, I would be doing so constantly.

I appreciate your perspective,but the evidence I have, points decisively to deliberate intellectual dishonesty: posing as a pure atheist to mock others while being a paying member of an esoteric group that teaches a distorted version of. the very concepts he criticizes .

Use this link to visit this thread to see his performance there and come back and tell me if it is the behaviour of a confused person and not that of someone promoting and.defending what they believe in.

https://www.nairaland.com/4793988/mystical-life#72173050

keemsleek:
I know it's none if my bizness but some people up there are already tagging south West so you should report them too. Tribalism is the core problem.

You're right about one thing: tribalism is the core problem. And the most toxic form of it is often the unprovoked first strike designed to spark a tribal war .

My focus was on the person who has started this, the one who created a thread and immediately used it to make a reckless, bigoted comment linking a criminal act in faraway Sierra Leone to an. entire ethnic group in Nigeria,based on nothing but similar names. Nowhere did the BBC report mention any Nigerian tribe


FreeStuffsNG is notorious for this behaviour. By singling him out, I was targeting the source of the poison . The tribal responses from the others that you mentioned are the direct consequence of his foolish action.

An African parable says that, "He who brings an ant-infested mat into his home shouldn't complain when he has lizards as visitors

If you're genuinely concerned about tribalism as you claim, then you should join me in. condemning the instigator first and foremost.

You don't put out a fire by blaming those who scream when they are burned by it, you must first confront the person who lit the match .

I condemn tribal bigotry from anyone, regardless of their tribe. If the reverse were the case and someone from another tribe had started this, I would have condemned them with the same force. If you see other tribal comments started first from the other tribe, report them, I will support you.

But don't ask me to ignore the arsonist while focusing only on the smoke. True neutrality means condemning the one who broke the peace first , and that's exactly what I have done.

jmoore:
Your job is to copy and paste. But I can see your tribal bigotry in full display


Sierrleaones answer Kanu too.


Example: Michael Imran Kanu, Ambassador & Permanent Representative of Sierra Leone to the United Nations in New York.

The surprising thing is that Seun and his moderators continue to look away whenever he does this.

FreeStuffsNG:
Calling himself Kanu, he wore a ceremonial red mask covering his whole face to conceal his identity and boasted of his political connections.

"I was working with some big, big politicians in Guinea, Senegal and Nigeria. We have our team. Sometimes during election time, at night, this place is full of people," he claimed.

On a second visit, Kanu became more confident and showed Osman what he said was evidence of his trade - a human skull.

"You see this? This belongs to someone. I dried it for them. It is a woman's skull. I am expecting the person to pick this up today or tomorrow."

Even with shedding the blood of innocent people in far away Sierra Leone, it is Kanu again.......and Idara

Only Idara was arrested. Smh

Another one again.

I told you the last time that tribalism is not good for your mental health. You didn't listen to me.

Now, look at what you have done again.

Honesty really you need help.

@Seun, and Mynd44

budaatum:
You really should go get a mirror so you can see your nonsense projected in it.

Hehehe

Your hypocrisy is truly something to behold .

Your sudden admission and production of the link is a tacit admission that my accusations were correct all along. An innocent person doesn't behave the way you are behaving

A truthful person when falsely accused, provides exonerating evidence immediately because they have nothing to hide

You, however, suppressed the truth for over two years. You never mentioned where the thread was located on your profile, nor did provide a direct link. Instead, you hid behind the technicality of an "invalid link" to deny the evidence existed.

I have successfully forced you into a corner where your only move was to expose your own dishonesty. Your belated admission only confirms what has been clear from the beginning

So, stop projecting, take your advice and look into a mirror.

budaatum:
All you've done is show the limits of your own comprehension. And I doubt you've convinced anyone of anything, while creating a thread to harass though you are the one harassing. In fact, if I were the sort I'd call you a bully. Fortunately, i don't feel bullied by you since you are not that competent.

I expect your next step is you delete some of your posts here to hide what you've done as you have done in the past, and which i have included so you can be seen for what you are. But you can't delete It from the minds of those who bothered to come see how pathetic you have been.

Do know that it has been a complete pleasure.

Lol The last kick of a dying horse and a very childish attempt at damage control.


I have already explained why the post are empty in the other thread.


It was because what I posted as response to someone in that thread appeared multiple times after posting it due to network issues.So , I needed to delete the redundant ones and leave the original..
The proof of this is that they all have the almost the same timestamp signifying they appeared the same time. Use your glasses please and see they carried almost the same time.

But because you have a very poor memory, (liars have poor memory)which made you forget what you created in 2009, you are using it again to mislead the public .

Why didn't you mention this two years ago when you started the nonsense?

See your life


SMH

You have failed and woefully. The truth is now out. Everyone now knows where you belong.

You can no longer hide.

Modified. What's Grok and Chatbot currently saying based on your recent performance?

You relied on that at the beginning but immediately I educated you on how foolish and misguided it was to rely on them, you dropped it.

Your latest strategy is to accuse me of deleting my post to hide something you're unable to mention. Continue to imagine nonsense in your head and believing it.

budaatum:
I think you need to reread the title of this thread of yours, because last time I checked it did not say buda is Appealing To Investigate Hidden Evidence And Harassment By Budaatum!

You point out "the first time I bought it to your attention", and I'm very certain my response would immediately follow!

I triple dare you!

Let me breakdown everything you have been saying .

First you now admit you ", created a thread where you shared information about Amorc . This is exactly what I have accused you of for two years. Your attempt to split hairs between "advertising", and sharing "information" is a semantic game everyone can see through.


The action, using Nairaland to promote Amorc is now confirmed by you. This is not the action of a neutral person " just quoting Amorc", but that of a promoter, an advocate for others to join and participate in the group's belief system while posing as an atheist.


Second, you contradict your June 2023 position. Most damningly, you now state the thread is "still visible, and even provide a link. This is the very link you refused to provide in 2023 when you claimed it was inaccessible.

Ok , you didn't know what I was talking about hence the reason you shared a different link to download a book. But how can you explain your secret action of going to the thread to update it less than an hour later?



The central question is why did you hide behind the "invalid link" and I "can't delete my post " excuse for two years, only to produce the link now that you have been cornered by this exposure?


Your entire defense was built on the claim that this evidence didn't exist or was inaccessible. But now all that has changed. Your latest statements have now proven that defense was a lie

And again, the thread was created in 2009.. For it to be on page 1 now , means it was recently active and bumped to the front , which is only possible if you or someone posted on it.

This is further proof of your on going interaction with a thread you previously pretended you couldn't even access
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Your entire strategy has collapsed. You have moved from " The link is invalid" to ", Here is the link" after two years. You have also moved from denying or ignoring your own post to admitting you created it to share information about Amorc,.

The only question that remains for those following is , " Why did you lie then, and what else are you lying about now?

They say, " Tell a lie once and all your other truths becomes doubtful

This is no longer about a hidden thread, but about exposing intellectual dishonesty.

I didn't create this thread just to prove that you like to hide threads and because of that the public should avoid you.. No . i created this thread to not only clear my name but to prove beyond any doubt that you are a member of Amorc who disguise as an atheist to mock others while still subscribe to its belief system

Your recent statement that you only made the post to share information about Amorc is the final confirmation of what I have been saying about you.Nothing can erase this truth about your affiliation

It doesn't concern what you are attached to , but don't ever bring it near me next time to pretend or make a mockery of yourself.




You can no longer hide.

With this I bring this matter to a close.

@Deepsight my apologies for the many mentions. I hope you understand.

@ Lordreed, thanks for your help.

I have brought the matter to a close and won't be disturbing you about it again.

Thank you very much

Oh! I almost forgot. @ MaxinDhouse and Meedon thanks for getting involved in this.

budaatum:
You are becoming rather boring, because anyone looking will see I addressed this years ago but you are going to continue flogging your dead horse.

You are however very welcome to point out the "first time I bought it to your attention" so everyone can go check for themselves whether I engaged and addressed it or not.

I dare you triple!

Provide evidence you addressed it.

First,show evidence that you mentioned where it can be found on your profile after I accused you of hiding it.
This is the phase two of this.

budaatum:
It was the link to the book in the thread that was invalid, and which many will see has been corrected in numerous posts, and not the link to the thread itself. But the gods seem to be making sure you refuse to be corrected, it seems.

Below is a post and link dated Jun 27, 2023 thanking you for bringing it to my attention so it can be corrected.

https://www.nairaland.com/302215/manifesto-positio-fraternitatis-rosae-crucis#124069135

Which book are you talking about?

I provided evidence you advertised Amorc in the past to prove my accusation.

Now you want to cause confusion by changing it to a book.

I asked again. why didn't you engaged with your post ,whether to advertise or inform about Amorc when I brought to your attention the first time, but instead shared a link to download books from Amorc website?

budaatum:
We need to educate him I think.

Unfortunately, I doubt he intends to learn.

Educate yourself and stop telling lies.

Why didn't you engaged the post the first time I bought it to your attention . You claimed the link to reach it was invalid whereas you went to the thread immediately after saying so, to update it secretly and came back to demand I provide the link for a thread you just visited to update.

The evidence you updated went there to update during that period is still there on the thread.You cannot erase that

When you resurrected this issue last week, why didn't you provide the link to reach it after I accused you of still hiding it.

Why didn't inform others following where it can found on your profile before now?

The thread was for the religious section. If you didn't do something to hide it , how come when you secretly went there to update it an hour later , it didn't bumped for others to see it wasn't hidden and you drawing my attention to the fact?




I hope otherss following can now see why I asked a screenshot be taken before I proceed.

budaatum:
Of course it would not be on page one until someone posts a recent comment, which has been done so they are now top of my thread list.

It's to do with dates, but I'll let you go figure.

Allow Lordreed to answer for himself.

What you're now saying is implicating you the more.

Before I answer you later why didn't declare where it was two years ago?

You claimed the link to it reach was invalid,but now I said it can be reached through your post and after the exposure ,you now admit it's on page 2 . Why?


Because I asked those I called to screenshot pages 1,5and 7 only

Here below

budaatum:
No, Triple, I did not "created a thread where you advertised AMORC". I created a thread where I shared information about Amorc.

And yes, "the thread in question is still visible on your profile", or you would not have been able to screenshot it, nor ask others to screenshot it, nor provide a link to it.

I presume this is the thread, though there are a few more, so correct me if this is not the one you meant.

https://www.nairaland.com/302215/manifesto-positio-fraternitatis-rosae-crucis

It can be seen on the second page of my threads.

He says page,2 here.

So, explain considering the screenshot you took earlier

Even on page 7 of the screenshot you took earlier of where it is originally meant to be didn't show the thread .

Before I did this, I search for days from page 7 to I and it wasn't visible on his profile hence the reason I instructed those I called to have a screenshot first before I proceed.

If it's appearing now one page 1 after you used the direct link which I shared and which Budaatum claimed was invalid years ago to reach it, it can only mean one thing.

And you know the answer.

budaatum:
Oh my Lord! You even managed to get all three relevant threads together.

I've bumped the fourth so the list is semi complete, for I'm certain there could be others. And below are links too.

https://www.nairaland.com/7762141/rosicrucian-order-visit

https://www.nairaland.com/4793988/mystical-life

https://www.nairaland.com/302215/manifesto-positio-fraternitatis-rosae-crucis

https://www.nairaland.com/7731741/mission

It appeared now because you posted a comment.

Check your original screenshot it is not there.

LordReed:
The thread is visible on budaatum's profile.

A thread creatrd in 2009 cannot appear on page 1.

Budaatum said page 2, but yours is showing 1

If you're following this and want to know the truth use the link below to reach the thread in question and then go to Budaatum topics on the second as he said and check if it's visible there.

https://www.nairaland.com/302215/manifesto-positio-fraternitatis-rosae-crucis

budaatum:
No, Triple, I did not "created a thread where you advertised AMORC". I created a thread where I shared information about Amorc.

And yes, "the thread in question is still visible on your profile", or you would not have been able to screenshot it, nor ask others to screenshot it, nor provide a link to it.

I presume this is the thread, though there are a few more, so correct me if this is not the one you meant.

https://www.nairaland.com/302215/manifesto-positio-fraternitatis-rosae-crucis

It can be seen on the second page of my threads.

Why are you now owning up to it now?

And just look at you trying to hide behind semantics

You didn't create a thread to advertise Amorc ,but to share information about them.

What's the nature of the information you shared?

You added a link to download their Introductory material for new members and who to contact.

And you did that as an atheist ?

You nor get shame telling childish lies

Modified: The thread is not visible before I started this and still not visible.
I ask others to screenshot it so that if it later appears after this disclosure , then it will only mean one thing.

Hahahaha

You think say you get sense. See as I play u like small pikin