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@FxMasterz, I would advise you ignore Buda's direct request. He wants to gaslight you A person with nothing to hide would not be this desperate to guide your judgement or control the narrative. The evidence speaks for itself. You're intelligent enough to review it and draw your own conclusions without his manipulative coaching His behaviour is the very definition of a guilty conscience. A clear conscience fears no accusation |
LordReed:@Lordreed, let me start by sincerely thanking you once again. Your help in securing the screenshot was invaluable and demonstrated a commitment to getting to the truth,for which I am grateful. This is why feel I need to address your latest comment. The statement ,"see how they are falling over themselves to describe you", shifts the focus away from the substance of the issue and into a realm of personal drama in favour of the other party. I had hope you would continue in your role as a neutral judge. A fair judgement would ask why the evidence of "advertising" Amorc was withheld for so long, not celebrate the confusion that withholding it caused. Your comment, while perhaps meant in jest, unfortunately makes light of the very deception that was the heart of the problem. When we debate, I expect the person on the other side to be genuine. Buda refused to do that. He chose to operate behind a disguise to mock and discredit others. That is the core of the issue. A truthful person with nothing to hide does not withhold exonerating evidence for two years. A truthful person does not secretly bump a thread to a new location and then stay silent when they are accused of deleting it, all to create confusion. He only produced the "evidence" when he was boxed into a corner in this thread. His actions prove his dishonesty. My goal here on this thread was never to simply "describe" Budaatum. The core of this matter has always been, and remains, a single, demonstrable act of intellectual dishonesty: the deliberate suppression of evidence for two years, only admitting to it when cornered. This is a matter of a action and principle, not an obsession with his online personality. But to now make a statement that implicitly excuses the dishonesty at the core of this quarrel is, itself taking a side. And I am not saying I am a completely honest person, nobody is.But too much of everything is bad. And once again, I am not confused and "falling over" to describe Budaatum . I understand the tactics of misdirection and disguise, often employed for self-preservation. My issue was never his affiliation,but his decision to extend that deception to our interactions. This is why I have decided to disengage. It is futile to seek honest discourse with someone who operates this way, and it is equally futile to debate the principles of honesty with those who would joke them away. I only blame myself for not ignoring him the first time. He's not the only one here I can interact with so why should I bother myself. I chose to stand on a point of principle. I have made my case. I now choose to step away. Thank you again for your initial help |
FxMasterz:Thank you for your response, Fxmasterz. I understand why you perceive it as confusion, and many others have been misled by that same impression. However , if you had access to the same information I have about him and the group he belongs to , you would see that his numerous disguises are not sign of confusion, but the very evidence of his affiliation. His behaviour aligns perfectly with the documented culture of groups like Amorc, which instruct members to conceal their affiliation. The use of disguises and misdirection is a feature of their practice,not a bug. The confusion he creates is a deliberate tactic to make it difficult for anyone to pin him down.. For, instance, if you accuse him of being a secret member of Amorc, he will deflect by asking why you don't accuse him of being a Christian since he also quotes and interpret the Bible If you question his gender he will gaslight you with a line of the like, ,"So you want to look under my skirt to find out"?, an absurd and illogical response on a faceless forum designed to shame you into silence. It is like someone here claiming to own a Ferrari and living in a mansion, then accusing you of wanting to rob them when you express doubt The duplicity which I observed in most of their members was what put me off when I was to join them long ago as a teenager. Someone is a member of Amorc, Freemasonry,, Ogboni,voodoist and still goes to church to receive holy communion. Yes, this is what they are known for. Most of their members hide themselves effectively by pretending to be Christians, especially in a society like ours, where groups like Amorc and the Ogboni are widely regarded as satanic cults. You will often find them in orthodox churches like the catholic church, having gone through the full process of baptism and communion. Some even aspire to the position of a priest in the church. This is not a conspiracy created by me, it is a verifiable strategy to avoid stigmatization and ostracization There was once an active member of Amorc on this board, I believe his moniker was Frairmathy, who stated that the major requirement for joining Amorc is a belief in a God. He explained that ,as an initiate, he was also a confirmed Catholic. Is that confusion? From their perspective, it is not. It is how they are encouraged to operate. So, Buda' is not confused. The confusion he projects is. the very tool he uses to operate here' undetected. After advertising Amorc to recruit new members and sharing their core doctrinal books, he pivots to interpreting the Bible and Quran to create doubt about his true affiliations. When confronted, he defends himself by. saying, " I also quote the Bible or Shakespeare, so. what am I? But if you have seen his past activities, passionately promoting and defending Amorc, you are left by with no doubt about where his allegiance lies. He can confuse others with his foolery, but not me. If he had not crossed a line in our discussion, his identity wouldn't concern me. He is not the only member of Amorc here. If my goal was to expose them all, I would be doing so constantly. I appreciate your perspective,but the evidence I have, points decisively to deliberate intellectual dishonesty: posing as a pure atheist to mock others while being a paying member of an esoteric group that teaches a distorted version of. the very concepts he criticizes . Use this link to visit this thread to see his performance there and come back and tell me if it is the behaviour of a confused person and not that of someone promoting and.defending what they believe in. https://www.nairaland.com/4793988/mystical-life#72173050 |
keemsleek:You're right about one thing: tribalism is the core problem. And the most toxic form of it is often the unprovoked first strike designed to spark a tribal war . My focus was on the person who has started this, the one who created a thread and immediately used it to make a reckless, bigoted comment linking a criminal act in faraway Sierra Leone to an. entire ethnic group in Nigeria,based on nothing but similar names. Nowhere did the BBC report mention any Nigerian tribe FreeStuffsNG is notorious for this behaviour. By singling him out, I was targeting the source of the poison . The tribal responses from the others that you mentioned are the direct consequence of his foolish action. An African parable says that, "He who brings an ant-infested mat into his home shouldn't complain when he has lizards as visitors If you're genuinely concerned about tribalism as you claim, then you should join me in. condemning the instigator first and foremost. You don't put out a fire by blaming those who scream when they are burned by it, you must first confront the person who lit the match . I condemn tribal bigotry from anyone, regardless of their tribe. If the reverse were the case and someone from another tribe had started this, I would have condemned them with the same force. If you see other tribal comments started first from the other tribe, report them, I will support you. But don't ask me to ignore the arsonist while focusing only on the smoke. True neutrality means condemning the one who broke the peace first , and that's exactly what I have done. |
jmoore:The surprising thing is that Seun and his moderators continue to look away whenever he does this. |
FreeStuffsNG:Another one again. I told you the last time that tribalism is not good for your mental health. You didn't listen to me. Now, look at what you have done again. Honesty really you need help. @Seun, and Mynd44 |
budaatum:Hehehe Your hypocrisy is truly something to behold . Your sudden admission and production of the link is a tacit admission that my accusations were correct all along. An innocent person doesn't behave the way you are behaving A truthful person when falsely accused, provides exonerating evidence immediately because they have nothing to hide You, however, suppressed the truth for over two years. You never mentioned where the thread was located on your profile, nor did provide a direct link. Instead, you hid behind the technicality of an "invalid link" to deny the evidence existed. I have successfully forced you into a corner where your only move was to expose your own dishonesty. Your belated admission only confirms what has been clear from the beginning So, stop projecting, take your advice and look into a mirror. |
budaatum:Lol The last kick of a dying horse and a very childish attempt at damage control. I have already explained why the post are empty in the other thread. It was because what I posted as response to someone in that thread appeared multiple times after posting it due to network issues.So , I needed to delete the redundant ones and leave the original.. The proof of this is that they all have the almost the same timestamp signifying they appeared the same time. Use your glasses please and see they carried almost the same time. But because you have a very poor memory, (liars have poor memory)which made you forget what you created in 2009, you are using it again to mislead the public . Why didn't you mention this two years ago when you started the nonsense? See your life SMH You have failed and woefully. The truth is now out. Everyone now knows where you belong. You can no longer hide. Modified. What's Grok and Chatbot currently saying based on your recent performance? You relied on that at the beginning but immediately I educated you on how foolish and misguided it was to rely on them, you dropped it. Your latest strategy is to accuse me of deleting my post to hide something you're unable to mention. Continue to imagine nonsense in your head and believing it. |
budaatum:Let me breakdown everything you have been saying . First you now admit you ", created a thread where you shared information about Amorc . This is exactly what I have accused you of for two years. Your attempt to split hairs between "advertising", and sharing "information" is a semantic game everyone can see through. The action, using Nairaland to promote Amorc is now confirmed by you. This is not the action of a neutral person " just quoting Amorc", but that of a promoter, an advocate for others to join and participate in the group's belief system while posing as an atheist. Second, you contradict your June 2023 position. Most damningly, you now state the thread is "still visible, and even provide a link. This is the very link you refused to provide in 2023 when you claimed it was inaccessible. Ok , you didn't know what I was talking about hence the reason you shared a different link to download a book. But how can you explain your secret action of going to the thread to update it less than an hour later? The central question is why did you hide behind the "invalid link" and I "can't delete my post " excuse for two years, only to produce the link now that you have been cornered by this exposure? Your entire defense was built on the claim that this evidence didn't exist or was inaccessible. But now all that has changed. Your latest statements have now proven that defense was a lie And again, the thread was created in 2009.. For it to be on page 1 now , means it was recently active and bumped to the front , which is only possible if you or someone posted on it. This is further proof of your on going interaction with a thread you previously pretended you couldn't even access · Your entire strategy has collapsed. You have moved from " The link is invalid" to ", Here is the link" after two years. You have also moved from denying or ignoring your own post to admitting you created it to share information about Amorc,. The only question that remains for those following is , " Why did you lie then, and what else are you lying about now? They say, " Tell a lie once and all your other truths becomes doubtful This is no longer about a hidden thread, but about exposing intellectual dishonesty. I didn't create this thread just to prove that you like to hide threads and because of that the public should avoid you.. No . i created this thread to not only clear my name but to prove beyond any doubt that you are a member of Amorc who disguise as an atheist to mock others while still subscribe to its belief system Your recent statement that you only made the post to share information about Amorc is the final confirmation of what I have been saying about you.Nothing can erase this truth about your affiliation It doesn't concern what you are attached to , but don't ever bring it near me next time to pretend or make a mockery of yourself. You can no longer hide. With this I bring this matter to a close. @Deepsight my apologies for the many mentions. I hope you understand. @ Lordreed, thanks for your help. I have brought the matter to a close and won't be disturbing you about it again. Thank you very much Oh! I almost forgot. @ MaxinDhouse and Meedon thanks for getting involved in this. |
budaatum:Provide evidence you addressed it. First,show evidence that you mentioned where it can be found on your profile after I accused you of hiding it. This is the phase two of this. |
budaatum:Which book are you talking about? I provided evidence you advertised Amorc in the past to prove my accusation. Now you want to cause confusion by changing it to a book. I asked again. why didn't you engaged with your post ,whether to advertise or inform about Amorc when I brought to your attention the first time, but instead shared a link to download books from Amorc website? |
budaatum:Educate yourself and stop telling lies. Why didn't you engaged the post the first time I bought it to your attention . You claimed the link to reach it was invalid whereas you went to the thread immediately after saying so, to update it secretly and came back to demand I provide the link for a thread you just visited to update. The evidence you updated went there to update during that period is still there on the thread.You cannot erase that When you resurrected this issue last week, why didn't you provide the link to reach it after I accused you of still hiding it. Why didn't inform others following where it can found on your profile before now? The thread was for the religious section. If you didn't do something to hide it , how come when you secretly went there to update it an hour later , it didn't bumped for others to see it wasn't hidden and you drawing my attention to the fact? I hope otherss following can now see why I asked a screenshot be taken before I proceed. |
budaatum:Allow Lordreed to answer for himself. What you're now saying is implicating you the more. Before I answer you later why didn't declare where it was two years ago? You claimed the link to it reach was invalid,but now I said it can be reached through your post and after the exposure ,you now admit it's on page 2 . Why? Because I asked those I called to screenshot pages 1,5and 7 only |
Here below budaatum:He says page,2 here. So, explain considering the screenshot you took earlier Even on page 7 of the screenshot you took earlier of where it is originally meant to be didn't show the thread . Before I did this, I search for days from page 7 to I and it wasn't visible on his profile hence the reason I instructed those I called to have a screenshot first before I proceed. If it's appearing now one page 1 after you used the direct link which I shared and which Budaatum claimed was invalid years ago to reach it, it can only mean one thing. And you know the answer. |
budaatum:It appeared now because you posted a comment. Check your original screenshot it is not there. |
LordReed:A thread creatrd in 2009 cannot appear on page 1. Budaatum said page 2, but yours is showing 1 |
If you're following this and want to know the truth use the link below to reach the thread in question and then go to Budaatum topics on the second as he said and check if it's visible there. https://www.nairaland.com/302215/manifesto-positio-fraternitatis-rosae-crucis |
budaatum:Why are you now owning up to it now? And just look at you trying to hide behind semantics You didn't create a thread to advertise Amorc ,but to share information about them. What's the nature of the information you shared? You added a link to download their Introductory material for new members and who to contact. And you did that as an atheist ? You nor get shame telling childish lies Modified: The thread is not visible before I started this and still not visible. I ask others to screenshot it so that if it later appears after this disclosure , then it will only mean one thing. Hahahaha You think say you get sense. See as I play u like small pikin |
budaatum:You have failed. And you not making sense Just provide a screenshot of the second page of your topics on your profile showing where that particular thread is visible. Provide evidence and not explanation to create confusion in the minds of those reading. The thread in question was created in 2009 and so, the only place it can be found is Page 7 and no where else. |
SpencerForbes:He's a part of Amorc but pretends to be a pure atheist to mock others as foolish and gullible for subscribing to beliefs he himself secretly promotes on this same forum. When I confronted him for his intellectual dishonesty he denied being a member of Amorc and claimed he only quote them just like he quotes the Bible and the Qur'an. But when I provided evidence of him advertising Amorc to recruit new members he secretly went to hide it from public view from his profile and back to demand for link to it suggesting I cloned his past post. By the time I returned to his profile to get the link to the thread from which the post was taken It had disappeared. And because of my inability to provide the link he started calling me a liar. Now ,two years after the incident when I thought we have both forgotten about it and have had several amicable discussions on other topics , he resurrected the issue to continue from where he stopped calling me a liar again. Why? And so, to clear my name,I asked questions and gut to know what he did to hidr it and why. He should stop harassing me on this matter. I didn't accuse him falsely. My accusation is backed by evidence which he hid. |
budaatum:Oga you have failed @Lordreed , check your screenshot again and see that the thread in question is not there. If it appears now, then it can only mean one thing and you know the answer Use this link to get to ",The Mission" thread where I first posted it https://www.nairaland.com/7731741/mission#124067609 Search for it . It's on the first page. |
One final question for Budaatum: Did you in 2009 created a thread where you advertised AMORC? If you did, Is the thread in question still visible on your profile? A simple Yes or no will do. @Deepsight, @Lordreed @Seun @Mynd44 |
A Call to Action and Verification. I am now appealing to the forum owner @Seun and moderators, Mynd44 and the others, to please investigate this matter officially. Please look into the moderation logs for the 2009 thread in question and determine how and why it was hidden from public view on Budaatum's profile. The truth needs to be established once and for all. To the Nairaland Community: You can verify key parts of this yourself. 1. You can see the promotional post I saved from 2009. 2. You can see that clicking the moniker on it leads to the original thread. 3. You can then go to Budaatum's profile, navigate to his "Topics" starting from Page 7, and confirm for yourself that this thread is missing from the list where it chronologically belongs. The evidence is there. The thread is alive. But the access to it has been surgically removed from his public record. I have presented my case. The ball is now in Budaatum's court to provide a credible alternative explanation, and in the administration's hands to help uncover the final truth. This harassment must end. Thank you all especially Lordreed who came out with his screenshot to get this started |
The Overwhelming Circumstantial Evidence Budaatum now claims I have no "proof" he was responsible for hiding the thread. He is technically correct that I cannot produce a screenshot of him contacting a moderator. However, the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming and points to only one logical conclusion: The thread was publicly visible on his profile for 14 years. It vanished immediately after I exposed its contents and he became aware of it. The thread is still a live thread on the forum, proving it was not automatically pruned or deleted by the system. It was deliberately hidden. He had a clear motive to hide it: to destroy the evidence that proved my accusation and to create a "catch-22" where he could demand a link to a thread he had made inaccessible. This is like a murderer being found standing over a victim with a smoking gun, only to argue, "You didn't see me pull the trigger." The absurdity he wants everyone to accept is that the thread vanished on its own, coincidentally, the moment it became evidence against him. @Deepsight , Lordreed, Seun, Mynd44. This is the most critical part of this expose. please focus on it. Here's the direct link to the hidden thread. I was only able to reach it by clicking on his moniker in the post I copied from it https://www.nairaland.com/302215/manifesto-positio-fraternitatis-rosae-crucis#4312040 |
The "Smoking Gun" and its disappeariance.. In June 2023, during a debate, I proved my claim by retrieving evidence from his own profile: a thread he created in 2009 where he advertised AMORC, provided links to download their introductory materials, and encouraged new members to join. This was not a neutral quote; it was promotion to recruit new members. The sequence of events after I presented this evidence is critical: 1: Acknowledgement & Diversion. He first acknowledged the post was his but claimed the link in it was "invalid." 2: The Evidence Vanishes. When I returned to his profile to get the direct link to the thread, it had completely disappeared from his "Started Topics" list. It had been on Page 7 (2007-2010 topics) for over a decade, but was now gone. It did not simply "get lost"; it was made invisible from public view. 3: The Secret Update. Later, through a technical workaround (clicking his moniker on the saved post), I discovered the thread was not deleted, but still active and accessible by direct link in the post I copied. I also found that after claiming the link was invalid, he had secretly visited the thread to update it. Yet, it remained hidden from his profile. To be continued |
budaatum:The time will come for you to defend yourself. Allow me to present my case first and after you can occupy the thread and say what you like. |
Here we go Introduction My initial accusation was simple: Budaatum, who presents himself as a staunch atheist critic, is in fact a long-time affiliate of the esoteric order AMORC (The Ancient and Mystical Order Rosae Crucis). He uses his atheist persona to mock others as "gullible" while secretly belonging to a group that teaches about an "invisible Great White Brotherhood" and other spiritual concepts. Why bother at all if it is just the above and even disturbing everyone with it This part is very crucial and will explain why I say so. This exposure is not because Budaatum is a member of AMORC. If my goal was to shame members of that group, I would be targeting others on this forum as well. This is happening for one reason only: he crossed a critical line of intellectual honesty. I told him directly that I value authenticity and that he should be himself in debates. Instead, he chose to hide behind a fabricated atheist persona to mock and discredit me, while secretly belonging to an organization that holds its own spiritual beliefs. When he refused to stop this hypocrisy, I called him out. I provided evidence, and after a long dispute, I chose to drop the matter. He is the one who resurrected this issue two years later to rewrite history and paint me as a liar. My response now is to set the record straight, once and for all. This is about holding him accountable for his deception, not his affiliations. He is the one who resurrected this issue two years later to rewrite history and paint me as a liar. My response now is to set the record straight, once and for all. This is about holding him accountable for his deception, not his affiliations. To be continued |
Hello DeepSight, Lordreed, Unknownunkown, AOO1, Guobe, naptu, Racoon, Antichristian, MaxinDhouse, , Meedon, lawani, Produh, OLAADEGBU, Fxmasterz, SpencerForbes, Jesusjnr2020, Kobojunkie, Ken4Christ, Truthseeker10, SmartPolician, sow4me, ReacherSaidNoth I will proceed now with the exposing the evidence. I already typed since yesterday everything I want to detailed here. In the main time, take note of the image below it is from Budaatum's Profile . It contains the topics he created when he joined this forum around 2007. It will help you make sense of what I am about to reveal. @Seun . Mynd44
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Meedon:@Meedon , don't leave yet. The exposure starts now. One person I can trust just did what I instructed. With this, It won't be possible to change anything. The evidence stands. |
@Lordreed, Please I am counting on you to get this done. Once you tell me you have clicked on his moniker heading the post to take you to where it was originally gotten from I will proceed with the next stage. Thank you and thank you And please ignore Budaatum even if PM |
budaatum:No . I don't need your help. @Lordreed, Please ignore Budaatum for the now and follow the directions I have given. He wants to create confusion. If the process is not followed you won't make sense of what I want to reveal |
@Lordreed, please follow the steps I gave. Ignore Budaatum. He wants to create confusion. |
