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budaatum:
You missed out links, so let me help you.

https://www.rosicrucian.org/downloads/Mastery_of_Life.pdf

No. Please don't interfere. The more you this, the more you expose yourself

LordReed:
I have screenshot the requested pages.

Thank you and Thank you.

You alone is enough.

But one final thing left

Click on Budaatum's moniker in his post below. It will take you to where it is gotten from. . That's all

This has nothing to do with Buda's gender

[quote author=budaatum post=4312040]About The Rosicrucian Order, AMORC

THE ROSICRUCIAN TEACHINGS enable people to find themselves, turn their lives around, and influence the universe. We are educators, students and seekers devoted to exploring inner wisdom and the meaning of life. We offer an ancient time tested system of study and experimentation, which reveals the underlying principles of the universe. Our method offers practical tools applicable to all aspects of life.

The Rosicrucian teachings allow individuals to direct their own lives, experience inner peace and leave their mark on humanity. It is for this reason that we urge our members to remain committed to the investigation, study and practical application of all natural and spiritual laws for the attainment of Health, Happiness and Peace to the glory of God, the betterment of humanity and the evolution of the soul personality.

https://www.nairaland.com/7731741/mission#124067609

Please use the above link to see where I posted it first and click on it.

It's in the mission thread page one

Here on page one. Click on his moniker "Budaatum" it will take you there

budaatum:
Evidence for what exactly? Do you want me to post the same screenshot you've already posted and that anyone can go to my profile and see for themselves?

Dude, please get on with the exposure! The suspense is killing me!

No you can't pressurize me , and I think you're missing the entire point or pretend not to understand it.

The purpose of having independent members take screenshots is to create a verifiable third party record that cannot be manipulated after I reveal what to look for.

You as the subject of this investigation, cannot be that independent verifier. And so, your offer is meaningless and misses the point completely

Your claim that you will post "the same screenshot"anyone can see doesn't make any sense. You cannot repost my screenshot as it is timestamped from a different time.

Furthermore, I did not ask for only page 7 which I posted as. example, I asked for Pages 1,5,and 7 . Your failure to follow simple instructions is telling.

And your sudden eagerness and feigned impatience, "The suspense is killing me!", coming after the same you once declared concerning this that "you don't really care" and not "relevant" is a. clear attempt to gaslight me into rushing. You hope to bypass the safeguards I have put in place to prevent you from tampering with the evidence yet again. It won't work this time around.

Your past behaviour is the very reason I cannot trust you and why this process must be followed. You hid a thread for two years and only admitted it was still active when you were cornered by technical evidence.. You have lost the benefit of the doubt

So, I will not be rushed, pressured, or emotionally blackmailed into changing my steps. The process stands. I will proceed when independent members have secured the evidence, not a moment before. Your role here is not dictate terms, but to wait for the evidence to be presented against you

The more you try to control this, the more guilty you appear.

brain54:
Chai...

They definitely have a thing in common for confusing people about their gender.

I'm certain I saw a post of badaduun where she/he admitted to being female. She even accused me directly of "looking up her skirt" when I expressed my shock at finding out she was female. Which made me leave her completely as I didn't want to be accused next of sexual harassment. Since then I have avoided him/her like a plague.


If kobo is a man na that one go shock me pass and I would hit my head 3x on a tree. An iroko precisely.


I've always suspected something weird about kobo's gender though to be honest. I think it's not male or female but something in between. Like a cross or bobrisky weird kind of confusing situation!

I have been on this forum long enough to state this with certainty: Budaatum is male, not female.

My first account was created in 2006, long before the "Nairaland Tsunami." The account I use now was created after that event, in 2010. I have witnessed the history you are missing.

Only those unfamiliar with his long history on this platform are misled into believing he is a woman or an atheist. So no, you did not shock me. Your reply was simply based on incomplete information.

However, his gender is ultimately not the relevant issue here. If it were, I would be calling out others who engage in the same behavior. This is about something far more specific

budaatum:
I confirm I have successfully taken and saved the screenshots.



Mods, please, in case you are tempted, do not delete this thread. Thank you.

Stop the foolery.

You can confirm Indeed!

Where's the evidence you have?

Meedon:
Let's wait for the others as they gathers the supposed screenshot.

Ok. No wahala

Dtruthspeaker:
😱😱

Anyway, you did not know

Are you in @Dtruthspeaker?

Would you like to be part of those who will carry out the independent verification of the evidence?

What I am expose affects too, not only me.

It also threatens the credibility of the forum.

I have the evidence for this. I am not joking about this

Meedon:
The conditions you gave is too much for me. If you can't do the exposure without all these, then I'm out.

Thanks.

It is not too much. I only asked you to visit his profile and screenshot the bottom topics on pages 1and 7 and share it here' publicly. That's all.

You will need it for the verification of the evidence yourself.

But if you're not willing to do this, no problem. I will wait for any other independent person that will do so.

Thanks

MaxIntheHouse2:
The mod blocked me but just ignore budaatum that's what i have been doing to her after discovering she has nothing tangible to say!

Thanks again for your reply.

After I am done with the exposure which proves beyond any doubt that he, not she, is a member of the secret cult Amorc but posing as a pure atheist, I will block him forever.


I just need one independent person now to visit his profile to take a screenshot of pages 1 and 7 and post it publicly and I will proceed immediately.

What I am about to expose ,which is more than his atheist disguise, affects you and everyone here he has interacted with . It even threatens the credibility of the forum hence the reason I mentioned @ Seun and moderators.

If Budaatum believes he has nothing to hide, I dare him to post the screenshots of those pages publicly and not hide it in the link he created.

He won't do so because he's not sure of what I want to expose.

He thinks he's smart but he's not.

MaxInDHouse:
This is really childish!

How can you take what someone here on faceless social media say so personal nah?😟

Haba!

Many have said a lot against me while some have said good things about me too to me nothing is at stake after all it's just what each person feels so far so good only one thing i defend on this forum:

The only true religion.

Whoever thinks i'm important is wasting his or her time because i am not seeking my own glory, in fact all the people that have asked for my personal information i always direct them to Jehovah's Witnesses telling them that once you've met Jehovah's Witnesses you've found MaxInDHouse!😟

Thanks MaxinDHouse for your response.

I didn't take it personal. Budaatum did.

The problem began in June 2023 and for peace sake,I have forgotten about it after that time. Both of us have had several amicable discussions on other things without quarrelling ever since then

But surprisingly ,just last week, two years after,budaatum resurrected the matter and again to rewrite history and claimed I lied the first time which is not true.

He wants to change the narrative and turn the tide of public opinion against me.

I wanted to ignore him at first but after considering the fact that he brought back the issue for no valid reason, I said to myself that I need to clear my name so he stop harassing me with it again in the future.

I haven't yet presented the full story yet and the reason I am doing this

I will do so later and call you

Meedon:
Where is the thread for your expose

Here

https://www.nairaland.com/8566179/appeal-investigate-hidden-evidence-harassment#137550260

Visit the thread through this link to get further details on what to do for the verification of the evidence .

Meedon:
I'm earnestly waiting for his exposure of Budaatum... Let's keep our fingers crossed.

Hello @Meedon,

I mentioned you already on the thread I created for the exposure.

Please I would like you to confirm you now have screenshots of those pages from his profile.

Some persons have PM me they only want to follow this privately and so won't participate openly. Once I get enough confirmation I will proceed.

Thank you

As soon as five or six of the members I have listed confirm in this thread that they have successfully taken and saved the screenshots, I will proceed immediately to the next stage and reveal the full evidence.

Anyone else can join this

Thank you

brain54:
I'm not jumping into conclusion to anything...

I don't even understand your post.

But obviously I no shock you!

That's why I asked you to hold on. Follow the instructions I gave and save what you screenshot on your device

Thank you

Something like this

The below is from page 7.

Focus on the topics at the bottom, not the top.
At least the last 5 or six topics on the Pages I mentioned and save them.

brain54:
I would borrow a line from your post...

I don't know what you are talking about and it doesn't concern me. I don't even understand what you are saying and I don't care honestly.

I just want to shock you small. Budaatum is a she and not a he.

E shock?

Whether she or he, it doesn't concern me.

This is different. Wait for it and don't jump into conclusion yet

To: The Nairaland Community,

I am writing to expose a years-long campaign of deception and harassment by the user Budaatum. This is not a minor personal quarrel. His pattern of hypocrisy, false personas, and intellectual dishonesty has affected nearly everyone he has engaged with on this forum.

For years, he has maintained the upper hand because the public was unaware of the truth behind his behavior. He operates behind a veil, using a fabricated atheist persona to mock and belittle others while secretly promoting the very spiritual doctrines he claims to reject.

This is why I am appealing to every one of you. Please do not dismiss this with, "It doesn't concern me," or "It's between you and him."

He has weaponized this fabricated atheist persona to savagely attack his opponents, particularly religious users, whom he takes pleasure in referring to as "gullible," "not using their brains," and having their "eyes not open"


Once you are armed with the knowledge I am about to reveal, it will protect you from future harassment, insults, and manipulation. This exposure is for the integrity of our forum and for the defense of every user who values truth.

Therefore, before I can present the full evidence, I need your help to ensure the facts cannot be altered or hidden. The integrity of this exposure depends on capturing the current state of Budaatum's forum profile right now.

I am therefore making an urgent request:

Please visit Budaatum's profile immediately.

1. Go to his "Topics" section.
2. Navigate to Page 1, Page 5, and Page 7 of his started threads.
3. Take full-screen screenshots of these three pages and save them to your device.

This action is crucial. It is not a random request. There is specific, damning evidence on one of these pages that proves my case. By having multiple independent users capture this data now, we create a verifiable record that cannot be erased or disputed later.

I cannot yet disclose the exact nature of this evidence because I do not want it to be tampered with, as happened before. Once I am confident that a sufficient number of you have secured these screenshots, I will proceed with the full, detailed explanation.

This is not a witch-hunt. It is an exposure of truth. For this reason, I have decided to formally involve the owner of this forum @Seun to be the chief judge in this matter, assisted by the moderators.

Your cooperation will ensure that the truth is finally revealed and cannot be hidden again. Thank you.

Cc
DeepSight, Lordreed, Unknownunkown, AOO1, Guobe, naptu, Racoon, Antichristian, MaxinDhouse, , Meedon, lawani, Produh, OLAADEGBU, Fxmasterz, SpencerForbes, Jesusjnr2020, Kobojunkie, Ken4Christ, Truthseeker10, SmartPolician, sow4me, ReacherSaidNoth

"Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold"
W.B.B Yeats.

The timing and escalation of these attacks ,Kebbi, Kwara,and now Niger state, are highly suspicious. It feels as though certain elements opposed to this government are deliberately provoking a situation that would compel Donald Trump to act

Should that happen, not only would it disrupt 2027 elections, it would also unleash chaos across the country with consequences that could dwarf the Libyan conflict

Let me clarify that this is not a defense of President Tinubu, I am not his supporter , it is an observation of a dangerous geopolitical game being played .

budaatum:
Mention me too please. I wouldn't want to miss it.

I will surely do that. Thank you

budaatum:
Provide evidence please, so that I can not deny it.

Why bother since you "don't really care and it's not "relevant "

The evidence is for the owner of the forum, the moderators and those following,.


I will never accuse anyone of anything without evidence.

The evidence I provided two years ago you deny it later,after acknowledging it initially. The evidence of this strange behaviour of yours is still there for everyone to look at.

So, I can't trust a dishonest person like you to be an honest judge in your own case.


The technicality you have been relying on is now useless. It won't save you this time around.


Nothing can be hiding under the sun. The truth will come out from everywhere.

Meedon:
My concern now is with his or her gender

When I am done with this issue, we will look into that together.

I will mention you tomorrow once I start exposing how he hid the evidence two years ago. You're going to shocked. I can guarantee you that.

budaatum:
You are not important enough for me to bother mentioning you everywhere, and nor can you provide evidence that I am mentioning you outside this and relevant threads. Or can you?

But I suppose you'd again claim that I deleted or hid the evidence, considering the immense powers you've claimed I have.

The most important thing is that despite your "I don't really care" you continue to mention me proving you care and not at peace with it.

You hid the thread through the assistance of a mod. You can't deny that.

How you did it will be revealed soon for those following to see the extent you went to conceal evidence. The verification will be done publicly. Just wait for it

Shameless.

budaatum:
Do you think triple understood what he quoted?

Go on. You have a go and tell if his understanding is the same as yours.

Silly and foolish attempt at gaslighting.

@Meedon, don't let him make you ignore the evidence I have presented.

And ask him if his actions on this thread are the instances of what he means by "quoting" AMORC

I have warned you already of his assessment of your judgement. So, open your eyes.

budaatum:
I'm not at war with triple. Nor do I think I'm disturbing the peace from reigning.

We fell out not agreeing about our opinions of near death experiences.

Ref:
https://www.nairaland.com/7726647/near-death-experience-atheist-professor/7#123900432

https://www.nairaland.com/6942843/matter-mind/36#116555518

Stop lying,

We didn't fall out because you criticized my views. We fell out because of your intellectual dishonesty, which I called out. You were not the only one on the that thread I disagreed with, so stop this desperate attempt to reframe the issue

This thread is another, "Smoking gun" that proves everything I have been saying about you. You can't ask any mod to hide this one. Others have already seen it and commented.

You claim you "don't really care", and that this is not "relevant" to you, "it won't take money from your pocket" .Yet , you won't stop quoting and mentioning me everywhere. Your action betray your words, proving you are not at peace with it.

When you started this nonsense two years ago, I told you that you had " murdered sleep". That statement has turned out to be prophetic.

You're the one who resurrected this issue, proving you are still not at peace with it. Your conscience will continue to give you sleepless nights until you confess the truth .

@Meedon, and everyone else following, this thread is another confirmation of my accusation. Here, Budaatum promoted AMORC's core doctrinal beliefs by sharing books that contain them. And reacted angrily to anyone who questioned the claims in those books.

This is not the behaviour of a neutral "quoter". But that of an advocate and a promoter of the group's system of beliefs, all the while cynically posing as an atheist to attack others.

The evidence is now undeniable.

budaatum:
My dear long time friend Vaxx is not neutral where buda is concerned. Just stick both our monickers in the search and read our history to know.

By neutral , I mean is not a member of your secret cult.

DeepSight:
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All mystical orders by their very nature are rooted in what is called or seen to be hidden knowledge, and this is the real definition of the word "occult" - it refers to knowledge of the hidden.

I know this, and you're very correct about this

However, my concern here' is with the term, "hidden fact", not "hidden knowledge" derived from hidden facts.

We all know that a fact is something that exists, is verifiable and is open to investigation. I acknowledge that data about something can be hidden or suppreressd so the public remains unaware of it

But if I claim the knowledge contained in a book I wrote is derived from "hidden facts" that exist in a secret location only I can access, would you believe me or take my word for it without bothering to know about the facts?

This is the crux of the matter concerning the book,"The Mystical Life of jesus"

budaatum:
So, if buda find "a fact that is hidden" buda must not share it with vaxx? Is it by not bibliographing that they hide what they know, and more which they can't know so can't bibliograph anyway? Is it not so you do not know the little they do know that they don't bibliograph the little that they know? Is it not true if buda don't mention to vaxx what buda find buda will be hiding from vaxx, a sin for which is hell, for no one who finds a good thing shall hide it? If buda do not share with vaxx with whom shall buda share? Or do you assume that all that is known is bibliographed?

No, buda shall not wait for bibliographs before buda shares with vaxx what buda finds that might be hidden to vaxx! We will write what needs to be bibliographed so vaxx can see!

Vaxx , a neutral person has identified the fatal flaw in your entire worldview with one simple brilliant sentence:


" You don't claim a fact that is hidden"

Your lengthy reply to this, which obviously angered you like a true believer was a masterpiece of evasion, designed to confuse this fundamental point.

A fact is by definition, verifiable. It can be examined, tested, and added to the body of public knowledge. This process requires what you mock as bibliography, the system of citations and evidence that prevents us from simply making things up in , "one's head and believing" it like you often like to repeat.

A hidden fact is a contradiction in terms. It is an unverifiable claim., in fact; it's not a fact at all. It's an article of faith.

So, for this, you, Budaatum,,, is not a brave sharer of hidden truth. You mocked bibliography. A strange behaviour from someone who claimed to be wildly read and enlightened.

You used the language of sharing while being part of a structurally secretive organisation

Your statement, ",we will write what needs to be bibliographed ", is ultimate admission of this.

You place the doctrine of your group, Amorc, above the methodology of knowledge. You believe your beliefs are so true that they don't need evidence, they will simply become the evidence. This is coming from the same person, you Budaatum, who declared in the other thread, " I hate beliefs " Lol

There's no skepticism here, no science, no history, but dogma.

And your desperate convoluted defense of it, which attacks the very concept of provable facts, is the another evidence that proves me right about what I have been saying concerning your pretenses

@Deepsight, come read Buda defending Amorc "hidden facts.

@ Meedon, come see your friend budaatum defending or may be , "just quoting Amorc " like he just "quote the Bible

Meedon:
She made mention of, "Ancient and Mystical Order Rosae Crucis, from 1915 until 1939."

She?
Budaatum is not a she but an older man living outside the country. The female persona he hides behind in the romance section is just another one of his many disguises, a long standing pretense used to mislead people on this forum.

This is not an isolated incident. It is part of an 18- year pattern of deceptive behaviour on this platform. Pretending to be an atheist, pretending to be a woman, these are not harmless quirks. They are the hallmarks of a pathological need to deceive. He has lied about his identity for so long that he may have even started to believe his own fabrications.

It is a sad state of affairs, and frankly, he's to be pitied for being trapped in his own web of lies
This pattern is precisely why we cannot take his word on anything, especially regarding AMORC. His entire defense rest on the claim that he was "just quoting"them, like the Bible or Qur'an.


So, I ask you directly; Has he ever provided a single example of such a neutral quote?

Ask him to show you and judge for yourself if his passionate defense and promotion ,like a religious fanatic , of AMORC was merely " quoting"

My core accusation remains, untouched by his numerous diversions and misinterpretations. He has a documented history of promoting AMORC, confirming his attachment to the group, and then hid the evidence when he was exposed. The hidden thread which contained his promotion, is the "smoking gun".

So I ask:

Have you checked the link I shared with you, where Budaatum passionately promoted and defended AMORC like a religious fanatic to see the evidence for yourself and judge if it is" just quoting it "

Will you agree to be part of the group that will independently verify the further evidence I will provide?


@Seun , here is it again.

Hiding it again, would only mean one thing, and believe you know

Thank you

Who is the mod hiding my replies?

Please stay clear out of this so you don't become complicit in a case of cyber bullying. Cyber bullying is a criminal offence under Nigerian laws. Please stay clear. My replies are without any insult or abusive language so why hide it?


@Seun please call your mods to order. Moderators are expected to be neutral and not take sides.

Someone here has rresurected a quarrel from the past to frame me as a liar. Tell your mods to let the public read my own side of the story to know the truth. A story that's incomplete is a lie.

Your mod leaves behind Buda' s own side of the story but hide mine.

Why?

How can the public know truth.


I will repost it again and read it @ Seun and please tell me why it should be hidden.

If you don't respond,I will call you out on x .


Thank you

Meedon:
Okay.

No , It is not okay Meedon, and please don't accept his deflection. Budaatum is trying to manipulate you.

You asked him a simple, "yes or""no", question:

"Are you a pioneer"?

Instead of giving you a direct answer, he gave a flippant and sarcastic response, "If you ask triple, he'd likely say yes"

Notice that he didn't answer your question. His reply was a deliberate attempt to influence your subconscious mind. He's trying to reframe in your mind a serious, evidence -based accusation, into a ludicrous caricature, hoping you will dismiss the entire issue as a baseless fantasy. Don't fall for it.

He often engages in this behaviour because he considers others fools who cannot think for themselves , and he is now trying to manipulate you into siding with him

To confirm the truth yourself, I challenge you to ask him this directly;

" Please show me past instances where you have just quoted Amorc like you do with the Bible or Qur'an"

He has repeatedly used this defense of "just quoting Amorc" yet he has never once provided a single example of such neutral quote
.

And please understand that promoting a group is not exclusive to its "pioneers". This is common sense. One does not need to be a pioneer or a founder to be a promoter or a dedicated member. If you consistently defend and organisation, share its own exclusive materials written for members, and actively encourage new friends, people to subscribe and join, you are by definition, promoting it. Budaatum's attempt to reduce the argument to this absurd extreme, pioneer or nothing, is intellectually dishonest. He used this tactic with you based on his assessment of your judgement .

My accusation was never that he is a "pioneer" hence the reason he promoted it. My accusation is that he has a documented history of promoting and defending AMORC, and never criticising them, and then hid the evidence when he was called out for presenting himself solely as an atheist critic

I have since obtained additional information confirming how he hid the thread which proves I haven't lied about this

So, based on all this, I will be requesting for your assistance later in the day to perform a verification check on the information I will reveal. You will not be the only one. Others will be joining us to verify the facts independently .

Use the link below to see for yourself how budaatum once "quoted Amorc", and please come back and tell me how it aligns with "just quoting it"he has been claiming.

https://www.nairaland.com/4793988/mystical-life#72173050

Thank you