₦airaland Forum

Coly2012:
you just succeeded in given us a beautiful nonsense bcus most of your points are highly debatable in the alter of farplay, justice and true equity, like that of Igbo highjacking the endsars, 2023 election, envy of the yorubas, antagonizeing the culture, tradition and believe of the good Yoruba people and finally you ended it up by saying that the igbos have burn the the bond of relationship which I see as personal anger between you and Youself with the Igbo people... You can't speak and conclude for a hole Yoruba nation.
Look inwardly you will see some good in the Igbo people that supervised your hate.

You lack comprehension as my submission exonerates reasonable Igbo, but in your quick and wack judgement you reason the same way MNK has taught you to reason. Don't get it twisted, Nigeria no longer live in the era one Nigeria, rather it is now era of regional interest within Nigeria, and that is the agenda of the new Yoruba, if you work with us we reciprocate but since you have chosen the part of hatred, just expect double, no time for paparazzi

LocalStandard1:
Come on Nigerians, let's be honest, outside of the South West where else is Tinubu popular? The North? Nop, not at all. He is known there but definitely not electable.

Tinubu carries a striking resemblance to Buhari pre 2015 elections. Everything about both of them was controversial, age, mental and physical health, education, origin, capabilities, everything. Except,

"Integrity". That is in the aspect of financial corruption. Which is what rode Buhari to power ( how we were deceived).

Tinubu doesn't have that, far from it. Coupled with the fact that he was among those that washed up Buhari on us.

One way he can still sell outside the SW is if he can convince Kwankwaso to dump or dissolve his party into the APC and become his deputy.

By doing that he stand a better chance of selling in the North against Atiku. And a little more chance of catching the hearts of the "OBIdients".

If not ....aaahhh!!!?

Baba have you entered the streets lately and asked the average Nigerian who they are voting? I have.

It is beyond the social media now oh, it is spreading. SS, SE, NC, even SW.

Or, continue to spend Lagos state money on campaigns and be shocked by the outcome later. Because if he wins, Nigerian treasury is in deep shi*t. Nigeria go most vomit that campaign money fess.

Oh yes! It can get worse.

Thank you.

You do not get it. Yoruba do not share the same political ideology with you, neither the north share same but you think other Nigerians reason the same way you do. That's what makes you a political island, you are blind and condemned to political abyss.

That is why PDP played fast one on you, and you were hoping a Yoruba man will not get APC ticket but became very bitter when Buhari and the north you except to ditch Tinubu rallied round him to get the ticket. Now you are at another self delusional journey against SW and Tinubu, banking on other regions to reason your way, but las las every region has it's own interest to protect in Nigeria and not yours.

If you can't defeat Yoruba, don't expect other region will help you defeat them, carry your cross as you are on your own

Yoruba accommodated you after the war, they didn't share your properties as the spoil of war. That is why we have large number of your people in SW despite the fact that Yoruba do not share border with SE states.

You came to SW and find a peaceful environment, you were never killed because of religion, ethnic or trade just like the way you are being massacre in the north, Ghana or South Africa.

You find it easy to occupy executive position and were allowed to contest elective position in the SW while your people enjoy similar privilege in the SW. In fact 90% of your past and current leaders have their education in SW and still have one connection or the other in the SW states, but you taken the love for stupidity, you continuously antagonize their believe, culture heritage and political interest for no just reason but for envy and ego contest.

While you were at that, your political God MNK through his radio Biafra instigated many hatred against Youruba which were pursued by IPOB while your leaders kept quiet. You continued your hatred during endsars and hijacked the movement to destroy Lagos, you are very happy to see Lagos and SW where you made your money go down even if it will cost you great lost.

You called Lagos no mans land but can't do that to Abuja, Kano or PH. You hate every Yoruba politician and protect the worst ones from your region.

Yoruba do not envy your food, your town or your leaders, if fact, they do not know whether you exist or not but you dedicate all your entire regional life against Yoruba.

You supported PDP and Yoruba supports APC, you were schemed out of the presidential primary while Yoruba fought hard to get that of APC, but you blame your political incompetence on Yoruba

Seriously, you have burnt the bond of relationship that exist between you and Yoruba for life, it's just a pity that innocent Igbo who do not subscribe to the barbaric of many of you would suffer the consequence

adefitim:
Do not get emotional with politics...

My uncle is the flag bearer of PDP for the House of Representatives 2023 elections while my childhood friend is now his opponent. They both are family to me. I wish them well.

My father is a dedicated PDP member and I hate PDP with passion.

One of my closest friends in SA is a huge supporter of Tinubu and the APC. You know my position on Tinubu too.

My uncle's party wants Atiku to win... My uncle definitely want his party to win.

My friends want their individual candidates to win.

And me Charles Awuzie, I want my candidate Peter Obi to win too.

Those who want Atiku to win will attack Peter Obi - I don't respond because that's the spirit of politics. They call Peter Obi a liar. They didn't call me a liar. Understand that. My name is not Peter Obi. So why should I lose a brother or friend because of politics?

In the coming weeks, I will be exposing Tinubu... Tinubu is the biggest threat for Obi's Presidential election. Atiku is not a threat. So when I focus on Tinubu, please don't take it personal. I will de-market Tinubu. I will give evidence why he is the worst person to be our president. This is politics and not a personal attack on Tinubu or anyone supporting him.

Know this and know peace .

Lalasticlala

We have seen your political resume but you will find people on ground with better knowledge, better political experience, better working of governance to deflate the tyre of propaganda you want to inflate.

There's nothing you accuse Tinubu of that you won't find in other Nigerian politicians including your angelic Obi, but there are something great and unique quality about Tinubu you won't find in any of Nigeria politicians.

Bring it on, we will rubbish your mud on your face

And so, se make we come fry Fanta ni

dragunov:
So Atiku's supporters have not been attacking Tinubu, abi. Your mumu is out of this world. You gum your genitals on Obi and leave Atiku alone. They way you, Kadoso, have been going about it in this forum, especially before the primaries lends credence to the fact that you are afraid of him.

Is it a crime if you people discuss without insult? How come you all take social media gist as if you live depend on it

Obi's time has not come

Assetinvestor:
Let me give Tinubu supporters some punchlines because they seem to be clueless about how to go about it.

1. Is Atiku a Nigerian or Cameroonian?

2. Why is Jefferson, Atiku's partner in Harlibourton scandal in prison in America for the same crimes he committed with Atiku against Nigeria while Atiku is not just walking free in Nigeria but even contesting to be president

3. How did Atiku end up selling Nigeria's assets to himself and cronies at ridiculously knocked down prices?

4. Why not expose his criminal records while in customs?

5. All his life, Atiku has been a government employee. From his days as custom staff till he retired and joined politics to become vice president, that's the only known record of his career life yet he has become filthy wealthy? He has been spending millions of dollars since contesting every presidential election yet his account balance is never affected. How many billions of dollars did he take from Nigeria


These are some of the things those in Tinubu camp should be using in fighting back.

Your dumbness is dumber than the dumb. Nairaland has given many slowpoke voice, they now run amok with nonsense opinion on political matter You all will all still lose las las

So dry

ScamHunter:
Hahaha, Yoruba man and expertise in denying reality. But you want to vote Tinubu, oblivious to the fact that the worst of Ekweremadu is better than the best of the thieving drug lord.
I assure you that igbos do not support crooked people the way you do.

Let me take you on record on how non performing legislators from the SE has been returning backs to back.

Out of all the 6 regions, Igbo politicians never see stiff competition that exist in other regions. From your governors to councillors, once they throw money the buy all your conscience and there's nothing you can do about it.

Go and check your record before you dispute my point

Dsalvo:
Eny, jealousy and inferiority complex towards Yorubas. Simple.

They are just bitter that they have lost out in 2023. PDP denied them and they can't compete in APC, it's going to be a long wait, I reason with their frustration, they deserve to cry

ScamHunter:
Igbos do not like crooks or the incompetent to rule. Igbos are very sharp people that are not swayed by sentiment or tribalism. If Tinubu were Igbo, Igbos would reject him the way Igbos reject crooked politicians like Orji Uzor Kalu, Rochas and even the supreme Court governor. If Nigeria were a functional country, none of these men would win elections in Igbo land. Just the way an incompetent Buhari will never win. Buhari may be incompetent, but you can't find evidence of him being a thief, but you see Tinubu eh... forget

Keep shut. Igbo electorate are the most uninformed in Nigeria. Their politicians have locked their destiny in the latrine.

Tell me why Ike Ekweremadu has been returning to the Senate since 2003.

A useless and organ trafficking criminal

Nazgul:
The population of New York is almost 5 times that of lagos, yet you can't compare both in terms of development.

Manhattan alone houses more foreign diplomats and Nationals from various parts of the world than Lagos, yet their roads and infrastructure and world class.

Lagos problem has nothing to do with non indigenes, it's a case of excessive waste of the state's resources by the ruling cabal which I believe you know.

It has everything to do with indigenes of useless states in Nigeria that forsake their barren land to seek greener pasture in Lagos. Remove them and Lagos would wear a new look

La click la die

Nazgul:
I was at Oshodi last week, then drove to luth via mushin/idi-araba during the heavy down pour, I almost wept coming out with a car when I could have just booked an Uber.

Mushin/idi-araba roads and most interconnecting roads across Lagos are hellish.

What you said is true, aside fashola's BRT innovation, there's nothing special about Lagos.

In the 90s there use to be running water from Lagos State water cooperation supplying water to all the household in the state, today if you don't have borehole where you live, be prepared to be buying water from mallams.

Are we forgetting traffic robberies, insecurity, high crime rate, thuggery... etc.

If not for the Port that opened the door to foreign companies, lagos would have be a Shadow of itself by now. Cos the tax it receives doesn't correspond with the development and security on ground.

All these can be traced to the influx of people from useless governors that have refused to develop their state, while their indigene residing in Lagos constituting nuisance with no value are making governance difficult for responsible citizens.

FatherOfJesus:
And after how many years since construction started, they still have not passed Iyana Iba. Lagos State government after Fashola na joke. Seriously
Right niw, federal government has even taken over the project under the trans-west African road peoject.

I would not go personal despite your jab that I know nothing. But you expose yourself with jaundiced information you put up here.

I have more records of governance than you can ever imagine. Right from 1999.

But let's leave it at thst

FatherOfJesus:
you don't know anything, you arguing blindly.

Obasanjo did not cease Lagos State allocation. obasanjo ceased Lagos State "local government" allocations because Tinubu was running proxy LCDAs

Na we know werin dey happen for Lagos

That's my post where I started clearly that Lagos state LG funds were seized by Obasanjo govt

FatherOfJesus:
you don't know anything, you arguing blindly.

Obasanjo did not cease Lagos State allocation. obasanjo ceased Lagos State "local government" allocations because Tinubu was running proxy LCDAs

Na we know werin dey happen for Lagos

I'm beginning to see you as a troll. I chose my words and it is stated clearly that LG allocation.

You are beginning to cling unto straws.

FatherOfJesus:
I am going to share my experience with you. I work in Marina and live in Surulere.
There was a time a section of eko bridge was closed for rehabilitation in 2020. We suffered. I waste valuable time on that bridge and everytime I am coming back from work I observed the huge traffic on the bridge and the empty waterway then I ask myself; what's stopping Lagos State government to properly invest in maritime? Is it not stupid that we are spending hours on this bridge and the waterways are empty?
The lagoon is a serious resource that Lagos State government has not investing properly in, just look at cities like vienna, Amsterdam and even Cairo (river nile) make good use of their waterways when I visired.
Do you know how far this will go in emptying the roads?
Do you know how much you will save on road rehabilitation?
The lagoon connects almost every major parts of Lagos, from Epe, Ikorodu, ajah, ikoyi, V.I, Lagos island, Apapa, festac, ojo, and Badagry and yet it's always almost empty.

Lagos State government is not serious, they are busy chasing shadows. I swear.

Do you know there is still contending issues regarding usage of our waterways, how effective is the state assembly legislation when our waterways is being policed by the FG. All these things looks so simple to you, but would appreciate the complexity and frustration we often encounter in solving things that ordinarily should be supported by all.

FatherOfJesus:
Who left them to decay? Is it the same Lagos State government?

I agree with you on a lot of things, sincerely but the only significant rebuilding I have seen was during Fashola's Tenure TBH. Duing his Tenure, I saw significant changes but you see all these other governors, something is wrong with them when you look deeply.

The rebuilding too slow

The approval of rehabilitation of Lagos Badagry road took over 7 years, with many frustrating conditions from the FG, how will you expect speedy development in such condition

babasolution:
The main issue with Lagos now is improper inorganisation,very poor transport system(this is the area I fault Lagos the most) and law enforcement, Lagos is anything goes.if there is proper organisational policy and enforcement and better modern transport Lagos will improve alot,like the okada ban,is a right step,

That's an objective point, But lagos can't do anything about it because it has no power of such based on the type of federating system that is strange to human.

Nigeria as a whole can not develop beyond these cosmetics we see, it's not the fault of the state government but the fault of the entire nation that have refused to restructure and set the country on the part of development.

Singling Lagos for blame is the height of injustice when the system is anathema to development

FatherOfJesus:
You are busy creating many things from thin air without telling us the actual limitations of states. You are the person showing gross ignorance of how stuffs work?

A state can even construct a federal road and not ask for refund. The approval boils down to funds.

Tinubu rehabilitated Agege motor road and didn't request for any refund. Go and check.

You are looking for every silly and flimsy excuses to justify the infrastructural deficit in Lagos State.

You are yet to tell us why Lagos still has bad state roads, no state water board and proper transport system. Do they need FG permission for that?

This is a untrue. Bring out fact to justify this claim. Not at a time Lagos was having financial issue due to the seized allocation of LG funds by Obasanjo

FatherOfJesus:
You are busy creating many things from thin air without telling us the actual limitations of states. You are the person showing gross ignorance of how stuffs work?

A state can even construct a federal road and not ask for refund. The approval boils down to funds.

Tinubu rehabilitated Agege motor road and didn't request for any refund. Go and check.

You are looking for every silly and flimsy excuses to justify the infrastructural deficit in Lagos State.

You are yet to tell us why Lagos still has bad state roads, no state water board and proper transport system. Do they need FG permission for that?

Lagos has the longest road at stretch constructed between 1999 and today despite being the smallest state.

Lagos state has the highest and number of bridge apart from Abuja.

Lagos state is one of the few state that pays it's CS above minimum wage.

Lagos state attracts highest foreign direct investment in Nigeria.

Lagos state still generates the highest IGR in the nation

In all Lagos is still number one, what is that your point again.

buckeyemedia:
Please keep quiet nonsense Tribalist, I was born & raised in Lagos State, Ikoyi & Victoria Island to be precise, Lagos State is a Federal project, what was the the capital of the Western Region pre independence? Ibadan, why isn’t Ibadan any more developed than Port Harcourt or Enugu?

Lagos State was developed by Nigerians, all Nigerians irrespective of tribe built Lagos State, so please shut up.

My mum worked @ the Federal Secretariat Ikoyi, filled with Nigerians from all parts of the country Just across the road from the AP Petrol station were Murtala Mohammed was killed.

After the Gideon Orkar Coup of 1991, we are living witnesses to when the Federal Government packed their belongings & left Lagos State.

Nonsense.

I expect your argument to be civil because i have been civil enough and I don't need to tell you my stake in Lagos for you to appreciate my point.

You are free to believe whatever junks just as am free to believe mine.

Lagos is daily being repressed by people like you who never see any good of it yet you benefited from the goods of the heroes of the state.

Let land, the water, the air of Lagos judge you according to your wish for it.

Since you hate the leaders, your despise the land and you dislike the inhabitant, why not go and live in paradise that is free from human flaws.

Free Lagos of all these nauseating hatred, it doesn't know you exist

FatherOfJesus:
do I need to be rooted in governanxe to know that Lagos has huge infrastructural deficit vis-a-vis revenue compared with her contemporaries in Africa? No, I only need exposure



Lagos cannot experience UGM and ESN. There are no forests to hide and it's too urban. It's common sense my friend. Traffic might even stall there activities, no sane UGM will operate in such environment and not get caught. You should think

no one stops state government from providing world class transportation, Roads, waterboard etc in their states. States can even construct federal roads and get refunds. States can even build rails and seaports.

The only thing states cannot do is to generate electricity as that will be integrated into national grid.

If you know any other developmental project a state cannot embark upon, kndly share with us.

With due respect I must admit that your understanding in respect to governance in Nigeria is very limited hence your armchair criticism that doesn't reflect the complexity of Nigeria.

But avail yourself to read the state power within the exclusive, concurrent and residual list of the constitution.

Can a state government rehabilitate a Federal road without approval from Federal government?

Have you bothered to check limitation of state government to exploit our waterway transportation system.

Now the little initiative from Lagos state government in water transportation was contested by FG through different bills that stifles state development?

Have you forgotten that Lagos State has been the pioneer of these strides, such as water transportation, rehabilitation of Fed roads despite the unending power play that comes from FG.

Do you think any state government has power to embark on rail project without approval from government? At what cost are those approval given?
How long does it take LASG before getting the approval of the light rail currently being built?

What about Lagos Badagry expansion project? What is the investment of State government compared to the Federal government in the project?
How will you assess the contribution of LASG to it's portion of the project compared to that of Federal government?

I know you won't care to look up into all these underlying factors beyond the criticism and blame game.

Let me just ignore your opinion about inability of UGM, BH to penetrate Lagos because it is baseless.

I would rather advice you to pick genuine interest in governance so you would appreciate work some leaders are doing within the complex society they are operating

Minjim:
Me too. The progress is quite slow for the revenue it generates

Lagos and it's people bears the burden of millions of weak and failure government that spread across Nigeria. Lagos would have been better, if it sits within active states and visionary leaders that compliment her rather than these parasite that leech and exploit the little that comes out of the state.

Lagos state would have been better if the inhabitants that came in Ghanamustgo bags having benefitted from the labour of Lagos is patriotic to give back and be objective in criticism rather than the pull it down syndrome of many that wanted Lagos to burn down to aches

FatherOfJesus:
this is strawman, the topic is cleae: is lafos state government frantically making use of the revenue is generates?

this is not the point. The point is lafos doing well today vis-a-vis the revenue the government get?

it's nor within the jurisdiction of a state to generate revenue from passport and visas. If a state should make money from tourism, is should be from toruist attractions hence this argument is somehow distoeted
I also understand that the rate if population growth of lagos is proportional to the rate if business growth and revenue growth which lagos state has not untilized. You are making excuses for Lagos State government.

I won't because I pay tax to Lagos State and I am not getting a commensurate infrastructure in return.

Your line of argument shows you are not rooted in governance, maybe you just chose to be ignorant in order to appear intelligent.

What should be the right budgetary allocation for a state like Lagos within Nigeria?
The fact that Lagos never experienced, BH, UGM and ESN is an indication of some wonder work from the state government.

Do you even know state governments including Lagos state don't have power to carry out some development projects even when they wish?

buckeyemedia:
It seems you are oblivious to the amount of money & Human Resources Nigeria as a nation has invested in Lagos Colony since it was joined to Southern Nigeria in 1906 by the British Empire, before the amalgamation of Southern & Northern Nigeria in 1914?

Without Nigeria as a nation, Lagos would have been no different from Republic du Benin, or Freetown Sierra Leone, go & study your history properly.

What natural resources does Lagos State have? None, what makes Lagos State What it is? Human Resources & commerce, who are the Human Resources & commerce in Lagos State? Nigerians.

You can save yourself this myopic opinion by comparing Lagos pre-independent with Sierra and Benin Republic. Internet with pictorial view would clear your doubt.

buckeyemedia:
It seems you are oblivious to the amount of money & Human Resources Nigeria as a nation has invested in Lagos Colony since it was joined to Southern Nigeria in 1906 by the British Empire?

Without Nigeria, Lagos would have been no different from Republic du Benin, or Freetown Sierra Leone, go & study your history properly.

Maybe you can quantify it visavis the inconvenience it has caused her people.
Investment in Lagos is a matter of choice, but a deserving right.

We have sea from Badagry down down to Calabar but Lagos Port remains the most active.
We have International Airport in every region of the country but Lagos port remains the most patronised.
We have embassies offices not only in Lagos but Nigerians still troop to Lagos.

Just take your time to imagine Lagos IPOB, Lagos UGM, Lagos Boko Haram and tell me if Lagos would still be attractive to people. There are people working tirelessly to prevent those national tragedy having a root in Lagos, from the resident to the leaders.
Give it to them instead of blind criticism

babasolution:
One thing I think many people fail to take account of is the amount of people, Nigerian government at all levels including Lagos have to pay,compared to other countries, Nigerias wage bill is huge,Lagos wage bill is huge,all the money Lagos generates cannot just go to infrastructure

To butress your point, Lagos state government has the largest workforce apart from Federal government, all these are necessary to mop and reduce unemployment the influx of people are creating within the terrirory

FatherOfJesus:
no state in Nigeria is developed. Lagos is the top destination for eveey business, this doesn't mean that Lagos has more infrastructure than other state on "per capita" basis ( I hope you understand what I meant by "per capita')

point to where I inferred that Lagos State government keeps taxes from MMA

Lagos State government has access to revenue than other states because they are basking on the advantage the seaport gives to Lagos which ensured that more businesses migrate to Lagos. These business pay taxes to Lagos State government and we aren't seeing what they use the money for. Lagos State government generate more money than some African countries but those African countries still have better infrastructure than Lagos state. Someone is looting these monies.

this same structural unitary has also favoured Lagos in terms of revenue generation and HDI. Lagos government is not making good use of that advantage to make Lagos a world class city.

Lagos State doesn't have to generate money from tourism with the huge commercial activities going on in the state. New York doesn't care much about tourism because commerce is their stronfhold, they leave tourism for states like Hawaii, Florida or Honolulu.

on what basis did you reach this conclusion?

Dry ports are not as efficient as seaport and it doesn't work without a properly functioning railway system. Dude, what are you saying?

why are you insecure?

Because your intention has been to divert attention to state government misuse of public fund, but you failed to see and admit the root cause of underdevelopment we faced in every parts of Nigeria.

Lagos is a blessed (region) and her glory can be traced back to 17 century. The market, trade and port has been functional before independence while its citizen are highly sophisticated with the right education that could transform the region into a developed society if not for the unitary system that takes away the powers from them?
Lagos would have been a better place if she controls immigration policy that would reduce the influx of nuisance with no value into it.

I can see you never imagine tourism includes immigration levies that could come from passport and visa fees if Lagos were to be independent unit. Just the way you don't visualise the burden of unrestricted influx of Nigerians into an area with limited landscape and infrastructure.
You seems not to understand that the rate of population growth of Lagos is way above rate of development that is obtainable in any society.

Spare Lagos of all the blame, Lagos is blessed, her people are hardworking, her leaders are rational, it is the contraption that is pulling Lagos down

Goodday90:
Tinubu drank the same beer in secret and wee wee on his body
Imagine tinubu beside Biden and other world leaders smelling piss piss?they would that we are smell like the drug addict
Impossible

You can do better by addressing the issue. When IPOB us faced with fact they turned comedian. Place Obis investment by Tinubu and let the world be the judge.

Lekki free Zone
37 functional additional area council with labour force not less than 500/ area council
The FTZ facilitate Dangote Refinery into Lagos with capacity to employ 5,000 direct and over 1m labour

State own port with capacity to employ and increase economic activities

Elko Atlantic.

These are ingenious idea of Tinubu and not a general responsibility of executive governors in Nigeria.

Oya, let see Obi works