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deolu9:
I run a pure water factory and i can tell u its so easy as people think. Nafdac problems alone is enough they took inspection fee from 15k to 54k. Then to put everything in place for dem to even allow pay d 54k u would have spent well over 100k. If u see people making it in fish farm u wont say anything bad abt it.

Please help me drum it enough for him to understand every problem has its own challenges. Your pure water business can be closed for a year on account of a single impurity. Can you rule out cases like that?

Every business has its own challenge, how you manage it determine how successful the business becomes

excelsiorfarm:
Op are you watching the young ones arguments?

If you failed and you said fish farming is terrible and no one to do it, whosoever wants to follow that advice should follow.

If you are making it or you are just coming up and believe there is prospect for you in fish farming, get more insight if you to. get mentor if need be or good for training if you need improvement.

I don't know why or the reason for any hullabaloo

Stay bless

I thing it is a great disservice for a person to conderm an aspect of farming that employs millions of Nigerian youth because he fail in the business. He should go to Kado Market in Abuja and see millions of naira thats been earn daily from fish farming.

What exactly are they doing here when the business is not profitable. Is there a reward somewhere when people go online and start shouting fish farming is a scam? When did fish business became MMM?

LikeAking:
I will advice you to be humble and learn.
Be a learning machine.

YOU DON'T NEED 24/7 ELECTRICITY TO RUN A HACHYERY.kindly ask others

Second you can't pump water with solar energy without any cost.
Let me ask you a question.
Didn't you buy the solar panel?
What about depreciation. (The more use ur solar,tech the more the value depreciates and one day it Will get spoilt/old,so you must replace it)

The the value o your solar energy tech is depreciating by 1.5% percent of its value every month,you must make a minimum percent of 3% profit on that machine monthly. In Nigeria its advisable to make at least 5% on that machine due to the constant inflation in the country.

What do you want me to school you about about fish farming.

Hatching?
Feed formulation tricks?
Medication?
Etc.

Remember this the amount of money you spend pumping water for those fishes alone,will make you more money than the fish biz it self.Even pure water manufacturers don't pump water the way fish farmers pump water,yet they make more money daily.

Are not suspecting a flaw in this business.

Economics will give you the answer.

20 years in the fish game listen to the voice of experience.

I am an astute farmer, I don't make noise,I give fact.

I sleek the truth,cos I want Naijatoprogress

Is there any tool you use that doesn't depreciate in value? Those running pure water business dont record deoreciation of their pumping tools or what exactly is your point?

Check my previous post i never allude i didnt incur installation cost, what i said is i pump water with zero running cost. You dont run away from business because you have to incur some costs, you approach it by reducing your expenses most especially the running cost, idea of farming with no expenses belong to the past, today farming requires you use technology to drive your business, thats where we should be looking at. There are people taking advantage of this already, learn from them and it will change your perspective from saying fish farming is not profitable

LikeAking:
I will advice you to be humble and learn.
Be a learning machine.

YOU DON'T NEED 24/7 ELECTRICITY TO RUN A HACHYERY.kindly ask others

Second you can't pump water with solar energy without any cost.
Let me ask you a question.
Didn't you buy the solar panel?
What about depreciation. (The more use ur solar,tech the more the value depreciates and one day it Will get spoilt/old,so you must replace it)

The the value o your solar energy tech is depreciating by 1.5% percent of its value every month,you must make a minimum percent of 3% profit on that machine monthly. In Nigeria its advisable to make at least 5% on that machine due to the constant inflation in the country.

What do you want me to school you about about fish farming.

Hatching?
Feed formulation tricks?
Medication?
Etc.

Remember this the amount of money you spend pumping water for those fishes alone,will make you more money than the fish biz it self.Even pure water manufacturers don't pump water the way fish farmers pump water,yet they make more money daily.

Are not suspecting a flaw in this business.

Economics will give you the answer.

20 years in the fish game listen to the voice of experience.

I am an astute farmer, I don't make noise,I give fact.

I sleek the truth,cos I want Naijatoprogress

Stating that one doesnt need 24/7 electricity to run RAS system is the biggest joke of the century. Are you for real or you just wanted to be funny.

Seriously, your peak in fish farming is some people's starting point. Your other assertion that suggests one change water every 3days is another indication of your deficiency in fish farming.

Fish farming has gone beyond cutlass and hoe model. We do it now with modern and latest technology, the earlier you adopt this the better for you. You dont raise 100k juvenile using flow through system. Why am i even telling you all these, you should be the one skooling me

LikeAking:
Broilers are just a second best option.
You pumps run 24 hours a day no running cost. LOL!.Pls stop.

What happens to depreciation?. Let me school you,you pump is running at a cost.

Due you actually need 24 hours solar to run a mere cat fish hatery?.Same thing people do in rural area areas with less.(OK,let me assume you hatch every day,but 24 electricity for hatchery is not the best option.Wetin the fish them one dey Carry 24hours electricity do?.Abi dem go use am see road?)LOL!.

Don't you think you have over invested?

GUY MAN,do your business sha.

Good luck.

Am laughing out loud now and am sure a lot of people have seen through what you spent 20 years to aqcuire.

You called hatchery 'mere'? You said a modern hatchery dont need 24hours in RAS model?

Seriously am beginning to doubt your 20years experience in fish farming. Because we have taken a back sit on a platform that inspires million of unemployed Nigerians and have helped lift thousands of people out of employment should not give you boldness to run it down.

Condernning fish farming business on fish farming platform is not only ridiculous but unacceptable. If you have failed in the business doesn't make the business bad for others. Some have failed but have overcome their failure, they are now counting their money.

LikeAking:
My brother stop been sarcastic.
When you start insulting it show you are a weak person.Only those who are not wise will take your talks serious.

I have given you facts anf figures counter my fact with your own facts.

Don't bring childishness hear.

I will shoool you on every thing about fish farm for free.You will make money,if you are smart you will find something better.

Let me ask you a question.
How many liters of water do you need to rear 500 fishes per week?.
How many hours will your gen run in a week?

How much will you spend on deseal/fuel for gen every week?

How much will you spend making feeds.
Mind you fishes need lots of protein and calcium to grow.

Let's keep this conversation civil.
Been angry unnecessarily doesn't speak good about you.

The enlightened people will assume you are wrong.Be civil

Point the insult in my argument or remain silent. You wanted to school someone without even knowing the basics of the business you want to discuss. I have told you you can get your water at no cost using solar system. Am not saying that because i read about it but am telling you because that's what am using.

It becomes my prerogative to decide whether i should venture into fish farming or pure water business based on the result of my feasibility study and SWOT analysis. You dont follow bandwagon in business, many factors play a role in what you should do, your argument on pure water business over fish farming is kindergarten.

Am patiently waiting to be schooled by a 20 year pro in fish farming turned advocate of pure water business

LikeAking:
I can boldly say even the OP,is an amateur fish farmer, or a big scamer.

Weed snooker has said it all.

Fish farming is a waste of time.

Due you even know the value/worth of thousand/millions of litter's of water Nigerians spend on rearing fishes?.

If most farmers calculate the amount/worth of the water alone they will be able to tell themselves the honest truth.

You need a minimum of 3k liters every 3 days(maximum) for 500 fishes,multiply that by #5(pure water)=15k.

Multiply 0.50 koko ×5k liters=2500k×10 times you will change water a month =25k per month.(Only Water spent on 500 fishes oh)

Then how will a farmer make gain?.

If you one do fish farming, go river go do am.

I have people that are doing purewater business here, come to Kaduna road if you want to know the intrigue in their business.

What you failed to understand is there's always a comparative advantage, because you people are into pure water business doesn't mean i will be successful in it until i carry out my feasibility study and analyze my SWOT. The direction of those indicators is what will guide my success or failure. Your argument regarding that doesn't hold water at all.

LikeAking:
If know the true meaning of profit you won't even make that statement.
Let me open your eyes about fish farming.

The water you spend on fishes alone will fetch you more money than fish farming if you convert it to satchet water and sell at 5# per satchet.

Even the the waste water it self will give you more money if you can sell it.

You run gen.
You pump water
You build/maintain pond
You buy feed
You wait for 6 month's,etc.

How much do must farmer actually make from fish farming?

Instead of rearing fish rear broilers.
Or rabbits/grass cutter/goats/cows.
Animals that eat grass

Is broilers eating grass?

Mr Man we started from where you stopped because you can run your business without using gen or Nepa.

I run my hatchery on 24hours solar energy. My pumps runs from 7.30 to 5pm everyday on no running cost. Look, stop sounding like you exist in B.C. There are things there you need to humbly learn, your pride and ego is making you see fish farming with a negative view

LikeAking:
Pls tell people the truth,or let me assume you don't even know the truth about fish farming, or you are a feed manufacturer/fish consultant.

Let me tell you the truth about this business cos I am a pro with more than 20 years of experience (Fish farming is a family biz).The only way to make real profit from cat fish farming is to rare the fishes in a stream/pond/river.All those ones people do in their houses is just a waste of time.

You can't buy a 15kg feed for 5-6/7k and expect to Mae money.

Cat fishes need lots of protein to grow,so let the fishes stay in the river.(It will be very expensive to feed)

(I know how to make cheaper feeds,but won't still advice anyone to invest)

I know all the tricks of this business and I wasn't pleased when you tried to dispute real facts.

Cat fish business is not lucrative.
If you wat to go into agriculture, rare an animal that eat grass.

Leave agriculture for the people in the village/uneducated people. (Best option)

Think out modern solutions to problems instead.

Don't let the government device you with agriculture, their are tons of profitable biz out their.

You seems to be a comedian, rear animal that eat grass? So, people in rearing pig, chicken, snail and turkey are feeding them with grass? To you they are not making money right?

Go to Songhai farm in Port Novo, Starcest in Abuja, Obasanjo Farm in Ota, Fashola farm in Badagry, David Mark in Nasarawa and come and learn modern techniques of farming that will guarantee you profit.

I pity your type that still wallow in delusion of quick money, thinking you can become Bill Gate or Mark Zuckerberg in an environment where technology, electricity and basic infrastructures are not available to achieve what they have achieved is not only myopic but utterly ignorance.

Let me tell you, Nigeria and Africa depends largely on extractive and agricultural commodity to survive, even Dangote started within an agriculrural subsector.

Please, dont insult our intelligence here in a platform of almost 500 pages with thousands of followers, if it hasn't worked for you, please seek advise from professionals at least we have many of them on this platform. Robonski, exvellesior, Ab1x, Juve, and many of them will assist you free of charge. Keep your ignorance in fish farming to yourself and stop discouraging genuine people looking for ways to add value to their lives

LikeAking:
Leave agriculture for the folks in the village and the uneducated.

His mark zukarburg/bill gates/jeff bezos/steve jobs/dangote and co, farmers?

Tink deep you will get an idea better than fish farming. Always remembere these wise words "There a plenty fishes in the river".

I have been in the biz,so I know what I am saying.

Nigerian youths please be smart.

Don't let the govt fool you with agriculture.
"Better business no dey beg person"

You can't be waiting for 6 months before you Will make a miserable profit, while others in other professions are ailing out real money.

I now your intention is to sway people's mind into believing there's one business out there where you put 10 and get 20, i pity anyone that fall for that prank.

A pro of 20year who is discouraging people, what were you doing in a business where you are making losses for 20 years. Please tell us your idea of lucrative, because profitable business to me is not the same as lucrative business.

Weedsmoker:
I did not only fail, hundreds if not thousands of others also did,the biz is overhyped.My senior bro lost over 15m on that useless biz not that we didn't plan well and we even hired the best of consultants to guide us,with state of the art hatchery and other facilities,we even use the best fish feed that money can buy.Catfish biz has destroyed so many lives, caused pains and sorrows to families.Its just like forex trading biz,the more you look the less you see..... losses, losses upon losses.
The only people profiting from the biz are catfish information marketers and consultants,fish sellers in the market,feeds sellers while the farmers end up in pains and sorrows.


Ladies and gentlemen,catfish farming is a scam.

The fact that you still hang around fish forum is enough to convince me that you are still seeking knowledge regarding fish business and i believe if you persist you will definitely tell a new story.

Sir, let me agree that fish farming is not for faint hearted. Your endurance disposition must be very high for you to succeed, but who told you other businesses dont have high challenges like fish business, maybe you're referring to buying and selling, then you may have some point to back your belief.

Loosing money is not an indication that fish farming is not a good business, many of us are making money out of it after initial setback and losses. You may go back and read between page 78 and 100 to read some of my agonising comments.

However, let me be frank with you and if you will be humble enough to take a look at this the better for you.

Suffice it to say that Nigerians can be innovative, hardworking resilience and focus, but the society has suppressed all that and average Nigerian operating within Nigerian system barely explore quarter of his potential, we have simply been spoilt by oil money and our level of focus is weak making many to run from business but rather stick to white collar job where they felt job security is guaranteed.

The fact is fish farming is like every other business, the higher the risk the higher the returns. Hedging against such risks determines your success in the business.

Sadly, but the truth is that you or your brother didnt do enough, thats why he failed. You may ascribe all the reasons to different factors but ill put it to you to look at the mirror. Sir, you are the reason for your failure.

If you want to give it another try, kindly consider the following
1. Focus not on the profit but on the result
2. Learn as much as you can in any area of fish farming you want to do
3. Be creative and innovative in your approach
4. Dont be afraid to lose money
5. Create synergy and relate with successful fish farmers around you
6. Explore modern techniques in your production
7. Be patient and be determined
8. Optimise your management practice
9. Read extensively about fish farming
10. Put what youve learn to practice.

The only barrier between you and success in your fish business is just extra effort, strike it once again, and you'll have a new story about fish farming to tell.

Ttalk is a practicing fish farmer
based in Abuja

There are valid points im what you have said.

Just yesterday i read for the first time the negative effect of using neem leaf (dongoyaro in Yoruba) that it can cause infertility and i wonder why the promotion of such negative publication at a time Madagaster just discovery her own cure for Civic 19.

Who gave these freelancers matching order to start publishing negative stories about African herbs?

As it is, Africans have been programmed to destroy Africa yet we cannot see it

Mubby4luv:
Good evening house.. I'm a newbie in the house though I ve been into fish farming for sometime now. Funny enough I came across this page just last week and as of today, I ve read through ALL the pages. Vast knowledge! kudus guys.

Please I ve some questions.

1. After spawning a female, how long before she can be used again?

2. Are there special tactics to turn a fully grown table size fish to a broodstock or one should just keep feeding till it ages and you notice an orange dot in the eggs?

3. After a successful Hatch, do you need any antibiotics or vitamins for the fries or you just keep feeding them and observing the regular water management?

4. What is the sequence of feed size fries should be feed prior to age/weeks.

5. When is the appropriate time (weeks) to move them outside the hatchery/vat.

Thank you, awaiting your responses.

1. Your fish will be ready for another use 2months after usage

2. Yes, broodstock should be treated specially with high protein feed, high water level and darker environment

3. You dont need antibiotic if your management is right. Meanwhile, you can use antistress such as salt during cleaning and when you transfer the fry

4. 0mm and 1mm as wean feed for 3 days, 0.2mm for 10days. If there's 0.3 use for 8days otherwise continue 0.2mm up to 18 days and use 0.5 for the remaining days of the month. Use 0.7mm, 1mm, 1.5mm at 1 week interval. Then followed by 2mm until you harvest for sale or stocking

5. That depends on your hatchery structure and management. I move when they are 1month old

This is getting serious

Nigerians get time sha

Nice one. There are cheaper solar pumps that serves excellently well

uboma:
I am not interested in joining your fish farming WhatsApp group.

You have stated the location of your farm.

You did not comment on the prices....

Price ranges from 20naira - 30naira depends on what you want.
Juvenile
Standard Juvenile
Post Juvenile
All available

Cant upload pics.

uboma:
Thank you for contacting me.

However I will like to get some basic information.

Where is your fish farm located in Abuja? How much do you sell the juveniles?

My farm is located close to Zuma Rock, in Zuba.

Our fish is raised under the best condition with RAS for optimum growth

You can visit our farm for first hand information.

The above number is my WhatsApp number for private chat.

Also, join fish farming WhatsApp group to interact with fish farmers in Abuja and all over the country.

Visit: https:///LOCcSSZStXu70rV5OPk4sB

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