₦airaland Forum

One would have thought Gidigidii will be on marathon fasting and praying

He has been left to defend himself. All the people shouting the zoo will born if Supleme is arrested are now enjoying themselves at home

GeneralOuki:
The whitemen did not just see them as equal, they were legit threatened by the speed at which they levelled up in such a short time and began to challenge them in certain aspects.

This a thread about Lagos, you can do us a favour by opening a thread to eulogize how the white gave your people the best Isiagwu

thatigboman:
Aworis you people claimed were the original owners of Lagos were just 9%. See how the census broke down different tribes ut these days one man from Oshogbo will claim omo lagosian and one woman from offa will claim omo lagosian. And all of them will claim to be yoruba

Keep shut Awori and Egun in the present day of Apapa, Amowo, Ojo, Alimosho,Badagry are grouped together with the Egun in the statistics. Because you see a separate 9% of Awori doesn't mean there are no others

GeneralOuki:
That's because you failed as a history student. Had it been that you have read a little bit of history you would have known that every major ethnic groups in Nigeria has a documented history of their own, Both orally and written. But I don't blame you though, I blame the Nigerian education system which failed you.

Was it the same teacher who taught Obi that tells you slave trade never happened in Nigeria?

GeneralOuki:
This is why you people should read a book and stop regurgitating ignorannt talk points you see online.

By 1891 the Brits were yet to conquer the Igbo, and by the time they finally encountered and fought the Igbos for more than 14 years, the British had nothing but admiration for the Igbo people, they marveled at their battle tactics, strategy and indomitable spirit and resilience. The feats the Igbos accomplished against the British were not something a barbarians who live on treetops and walk naked could have accomplished.

Spare me story by moonlight, tell are you sure say na normal eye you take talk say the British never engage in slave trade in the areas that are latter named Nigeria ?

Let's pick the discussion one after the other

GeneralOuki:
You don't even know the meaning of Lagos. Lagos was named by the Europeans, Portuguese to be precise and it means "Lakes". Eko on the other hand is a Benin word. Long before the arrival of the British, the Oba of Benin was the one who chose the oba of Lagos. Do you know why it is like that?

I won't engage half baked. It is not by force to dabble into subject you know nothing about.

People that entered ,Lagos 2019 are now telling us the story of Lagos

GeneralOuki:
Nonsense. The British moved in the savannah just as well as they did in the hinterland if the east, especially in the coastal areas where they berthed and colonised earlier than most places, e.g Opobo kingdom and Lagos. The British directly and indirectly operated the Yoruba kingdom and Hausa/Fulani kingdoms after they conquered them . They deposed Ọbá kosoko and installed their stooge Akitoye as a way to gain total control of Lagos.
The Brits never engaged in slavery in Nigeria, they abolished it, and they used the accusations of slavery to depose the monarchies that didn't kowtow to them.

And those Hausas and Nupe you see on that census were mostly slaves owned by Yoruba chiefs, very few of them were free people.

I think it is effortless trying to correct people that chose to be ignorant.

Look at this one saying British never engage in slave trade in Nigeria?

I think this is the height of delusion.

Nwaikpe:


Do you even know what a university is? So UniLag or whatever university you are talking about, had to segregate the courses of a "Lagosian" from others?

Oh, so you know that nothing existed there? That is why a new name had to be given to it. Now you know why the place called Oyo was not renamed "Lisbon"—because people were already there.

"Fishing net" design.

You try.

Stop sounding as if every words must be spelt out for you like a kindergarten before you can understand. Am referring to state University but you are tagging federal university, why didn't you add private university so you can sound more intelligent.

Nwaikpe:
Good that you want to focus on those guys. Let's do it.

Where did they learn the caste system from? Where did your people learn your culture from? Religion?


I understand the huts thing. You guys use that statement to console yourself for the fact that the average Igbo community was speaking good English, living in good colonial-style houses, praying the rosary, and even attending universities before the others did.

The only people who superseded them were the Ijaws and Efik/Ibibio. You listen too much to the message of Reno Omokri.
Up till today, there are places in the north that still go about unclothed.

The North African Tuaregs conquered Northern Nigeria before the Britons did. And what they did in Northern Nigeria was that they stripped them of their culture (religion was part of their culture) and gave them a new religion, which they now claim to be their culture. And that was in the early 1800s. You think when the North Africans conquered them, they taught them how to build skyscrapers? The Tauregs only taught them (enforced on them) the clothing of the desert people (and their religion) thereof.



And just so that you get it right: the Briton saw ALL who accepted the Christian faith as equals. That was a part you never knew. The church never discriminated between bound or free, rich or poor, and the Britons were under the Anglican church. You thought the same way Adamu was treated is the same Chukwudi was?

Seriously I should have known that I was chatting with people who believe Buhari died and was changed to El Jibrin of Sudan

At the bolded suggest you didn't study history as a subject otherwise won't claim the British interact with the Igbo first when they landed in the Niger area

The 1st Missionary school, first missionary cemetery, first story building, first this and first that can only be found in my state.

History tells us that Igbo were the last sets of people the British visited

Nwaikpe:
Good that you want to focus on those guys. Let's do it.

Where did they learn the caste system from? Where did your people learn your culture from? Religion?


I[b] understand the huts thing. You guys use that statement to console yourself for the fact that the average Igbo community was speaking good English, living in good colonial-style houses, praying the rosary, and even attending universities before the others did. [/b]

The only people who superseded them were the Ijaws and Efik/Ibibio. You listen too much to the message of Reno Omokri.
Up till today, there are places in the north that still go about unclothed.

The North African Tuaregs conquered Northern Nigeria before the Britons did. And what they did in Northern Nigeria was that they stripped them of their culture (religion was part of their culture) and gave them a new religion, which they now claim to be their culture. And that was in the early 1800s. You think when the North Africans conquered them, they taught them how to build skyscrapers? The Tauregs only taught them (enforced on them) the clothing of the desert people (and their religion) thereof.



And just so that you get it right: the Briton saw ALL who accepted the Christian faith as equals. That was a part you never knew. The church never discriminated between bound or free, rich or poor, and the Britons were under the Anglican church. You thought the same way Adamu was treated is the same Chukwudi was?

Seriously I should have known that I was chatting with people who believe Buhari died and was changed to El Jibrin of Sudan

At the bolded suggest you didn't study history as a subject otherwise won't claim the British interact with the Igbo first when they landed in the Niger area

The 1st Missionary school, first missionary cemetery, first story building, first this and first that can only be found in my state.

History tells us that Igbo were the last sets of people the British visited

LagosOrigin:
If serial murderers, drug pushers and Kidnappers are given presidential pardon by tinubu, then a freedom fighter should also be given presidential pardon.

Tinubu should release this man if he could release murderers, kidnappers and drug barons like himself in the name of presidential pardon.

Go and file that suit in the court, you will be helping us to birth a new Nigeria, make the new Nigeria you crave for possible

Nwaikpe:
"I Lagosian..."



Ogbeni doesn't even know that the word "Lagos" is not Yoruba. He is claiming a place that never existed. It's just like the people living in Bonny Island, who moved there to work as manual staffs for the oil companies, in 50 years time, claiming to be Bonnarian.


There was no story.
Don't craft anything. Or you could do so and make it sound the way Palestinians craft theirs as well.

Are u sure you can read and understand?

I sincerely doubt that, because your response doesn't show you understand what I wrote up there, let me allow you to glow in your ignorance

OredoPikin2:
lolz
who are the parents of Ashipa in Awori?
or Ashipa fell from the sky or trekked from saudi arabia like oduduwa lies u were told

just tell me the parent of Ashipa in Awori
and also tell me the name of the daughter of Oba of Benin he married
meanwhile, if you can or cant provide all these, know say u nor dey think.
una go just dey twist history as if the people u are talking to doesnt think like you.

in Benin i will not only tell you who Ashipa parents were, i will tell u the great grand father to the over 32 generations before him

I warned you severally to stop claiming Benin, if it look like Akpu and smells like Akpu then it's definitely Akpu.

Let that sink

Nwaikpe:


Ok. Oga. Thank you, sir.


But sha, the meaning of Lagos, which is in Nigeria, is the translation of the word "lagoon" in Portuguese.

It doesn't mean any people. It simply means a place where the Portuguese traded business with West Africa.

No people existed there.

You are wrong Lagos is named after a port town in Portugal.

Every Lagosian who attended University in Lagos had to pass a course in History of Lagos, besides, our fathers are very learned and have records of events that predates Nigeria, You can inbox me if you are so keen to know more about Lagos.

I've been to riverine areas of Bayelsa and Rivers state and their fishing trap is similar to what we have, but we still retail the superior design and the originality is there. Just as in food and way of life.

tctrills:
Lol, you are trying to advise us to leave Lagos. No thanks. We are very good where we are. Thank you, but no. Each year, a larger slice of the city becomes ours, so don't expect us to go any time soon. We are your neighbors for all eternity.

It is comment like this that made us withdraw the privilege you enjoy, before now the ruling party in Lagos used to give you slot in HoA and HoR and position of Vice chairman but all that has stopped and any Local government chairman and other elected representative that allowed any of you to win any election in Lagos state has ended his career.

The reforms have stated already, don't just cry when it hits you

OredoPikin2:
u can continue lying to yourself
if u can reason without emotion, ask yourself why till today, the oba of lagos always claim Benin root and ancestry.
ask ur parent about Prince Ado. the first Oba of Lagos.
ask ur people where Ashipa came from.

Stops lying his comment about Lagos is in internet for and educate yourself, parading a doctored story won't change anything

Nwaikpe:
Funny that you are making claims over facts.

"Lagos division."



Where do you think the name Lagos came from?

I guess you don't know it came from the people who started the town and made it Portuguese.

So, a people lived there, had a city, and didn't have a name? What is Eko? Why didn't the Protuguese see it and call it Eko if it ever existed?

Lagos is a common name that bound the people together, Eko and other names have been in existence and will still continue to be.

Lagos is named after the state that is why it is called Lagos state, we still retain òye names, Eko, Epetedo, Isheri, Epe etc

Nwaikpe:
Oh yes,

I guess you purposely ignored the timeline of that census and decided to map that question to our present-day society.

Even cosmopolitan London and New York at that time were 99% Caucasian, 99.9% Christian, and 99.9% English.
The 1%, or 0.01%, were basically traders, and those were at the fringes of the port areas.

In 1891, communities were totally homogenous. The only differences in these communities were the Caucasian colonial masters. Apart from that, if a Yoruba man travelled to Kano, I know what an Uthman Danfodiyo would do. If a Hausa man travelled to Calabar, I know what the pot of soup would have been made of.

Tell the truth, there was no one there in Lagos. No Yoruba community is ever known to be riverine only in Ondo. No Yoruba community ever thrived or built their communities near the riverines.

What's the meaning of this nonsense. I Lagosian and our history revolves around water, the culture, food and story has so much connection with water.

How dare you tell the story of the people you are not part of, this insult is becoming nauseating and if you are given appropriate response now that's when mod will active ban.

Never ever should you speak about people culture and heritage you don't know anything about

Streetinvestor2:
He is trophy of victory by SW over SE.It has been thr hatred for SE since the war.I am happy I will never have anything in this life to do with that region

Hatred kill faster than cancer, desist from it. I love Igbo people but Obidients will hear weah until their brain start to function properly

MatrixCircle:
Because they was no Nigeria then, the South East was a country of its own then known as Republic of Biafra with strong economy and trade and no need to come to Lagos, until Nigeria was later created and that Biafran buoyant economy was destroyed out of envy, their seaport was destroyed to favour Lagos. So they moved to Lagos to use the seaport to import and export their goods, and so doing there developed Lagos to what it is today.

Which port were they using before then?

Again the Eastern region was never a region pre amalgamation and it was never called Biafria.

Nwaikpe:
But it is clear that everyone there was from different places.
Meaning there is absolutely nothing like "Lagosian" but a confederation of people from different places.


Abi you decided to overlook the stats and just make a comment?

Go over it again because your comment shows you can read and understand at first attempt

AMINDA:
Who are the Obidients and who are the sensible Southerners? Last time I checked, Tinubu won only 4 SW states from the entire South. Obidients swept the rest of the South. How then can Tinubu win the South without the Obidients? Or has he automatically won the Obidients to his side by undemocratically denying Obi a platform to contest? If so, that is not an alliance, it is conquest.

Southern electorate are different from the Obidients, in 2023 a lot of Southerners including Youruba vote for Obi because of so many factors.

Those people will still exercise their franchise for whoever pleases them.

Obidient on the other hand are those who chose to pursue only Obidient agenda, they are political wing of the IPOB who want Peter Obi as president and nothing else

AMINDA:
No wahala. Now that the entire South is one big family, are you all going to stop demolishing the properties of SEasterners in the SW and quit telling them to go back to their states? What about projects and appointments? Is it going to go round the South in an equitable manner? I want to check something.

That's a childish remark, Lagos state doesn't discriminate in his town planning exercise. I lost large chunk of family property to FG and State government projects in Lagos, we embraced it as our contribution and sacrifice toward the growth of Lagos state. We didn't shed crocodile tears neither did we play victimisation card like the Igbo are doing.

For your information Lagos indigene lost more to development by state government than any stranger in Lagos yet they didn't complain.

I am equally a victim to El Rufai demolition in Abuja and there was no noise, please spare us your divide and rule as it can only work among the Obidients and not on sensible southerners

Your article is full of lies.

Igbo are proportionally represented in this government. Umahi as Minister of work and Nyesom Wike are super minister with powerful portfolio.

Again you said Obi humiliated Tinubu in Lagos with high margin, that's another lie as the margin is close and insignificant

ChiefOloye:
Tinubu didn't win in the North in 2023 using Muslim Muslim ticket, he "won" because he was "very sick" and they ensured his marginal victory, because he was expected to die, shortly after his victory, in that way, power would be retained in the North. But God pass una!

You understand these people's machination wella.

They had expected Tinubu to die shortly after inauguration, sadly they have partner in the South who wish the president dead too.

They prayed that he won't be sworn in but he was, they instigated coup and even support Niger Republic to embarrass Nigeria because their mediocre personified lost the election

Pls show me the population of the Igbo there or I won't accept it

Since IPOB has been declared terrorist organization, it will be impossible for any government to release MNK the leader of IPOB.

He should face his trial and accept his fate after convicted and see if future president will grant him presidential pardon.

You cant execute leaders of BH and decides to pardon other terrorist leader without trial.

That will amount to double standard

MrVitalis has been propagating similar lies that FG doesn't allowed other ports to receive pharmaceutical products except ports in Lagos.

But that's is a fabricated story as there was no gazette or pronouncement by the FG n this claim.

People are importing pharmaceutical products through Onne Port and that has not changed

There is no any deliberate attempt to undermined other ports in Nigeria as some Igbo want us to believe.

Like I posted earlier there is unified levy across all ports charge by the FG.

The importer decides which of the port to use and those factors are purely economic decision

owobokiri:
The Problem is that IT COSTS MORE TO CLEAR YOUR GOODS in other ports outside Lagos.

This is the main problem since the end of the war. It costs more to clear in Calabar or Onne. I mean tye freight charges.

Deu to federal government levies and charges, it is cheaper for importers to land their goods in Lagos.

These are inbuilt federal government maritime policies post civil war that were dubiously deployed to tighten the grip on the Eastern ports. Unfortunately, those anti business policies have continued to add to the costs of doing business in these areas till these days..

If you have shipped from China, you would have noticed that most foreign shippers will be pratically begging you to use Lagos ports. This is because the federal government has used administrative measures to make it easier and cheaper for these ships to land in Lagos..

I am not deluded. I am a realistic person..
I don't think that this very government that is alarmingly pro Lagos/Southwest will be the one to free eastern ports.
That will happen someday but certainly not under the the administration of the most tribal president in Nigerias history..
So you guys should watch how you beleive whatever that was written up there...

Stop lying, Federal government doesn't charge different cost in different ports in Nigeria.

Any extra cost incurred can only be attribute to local charges which has nothing to do with the unified charges by FG across all the ports in Nigeria.

You guys have been misrepresenting information regarding why other ports are not being patronized like the ones in Lagos