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chnnmfl:
Another agba.do illiterate spotted. Pls do you know what AI is?

Open Chatgpt on your phone, ask the following question: "Was Old Eastern Region in Nigeria once considered the fastest growing economy in the world?"

Screen shot and show me the answer. Truly Awolowo free half baked education was really a bad one.

By the way, this pic below was the Ibadan that most Igbo people fled to according to you.

Stop beating about the bust and stay on the subject matter, your junks are irrelevant to the discussion.

Oy state IGR surpass 4states in the SE and that's a basis that will make Oyo state viable when FAAC is abolished but the entire SE will collapse when that happened.

Anyone is free to cry on this fact it is allowed

chnnmfl:
You are a slow.poke[/b]... for insinuating that SE can't stand alone. [b]SE that was considered as the fastest economy in the world in the early fifties.

South West can exit unhurt yet Awolowo was terrified by the idea of Biafra separation? Just as many Yorubas are still frightened by the idea of Biafra till this day.

Just only the gas reserve in imo state today can survive the whole southern Nigeria in the next hundred years.

When fact hits you you result to insult.

I don't know why the mods will allow you go away with your abuse.

Mod should do the needful and yank this one out of a thread that requires intelligent contributions

chnnmfl:
Do you really know what IGR is ? I doubt your mental capacity. I wish I can explain this to you in a voicenote.

You claimed Oyo IGR surpasses SE states but Oyo state still benefits and enjoy Oil revenue from Imo, Abia and Anambra in FAAC allocation. Oil revenue of a state doesn't reflect in the IGR.

In a REAL true Federation Imo, Abia and Anambra will have to sell her oil and gas direct to foreign buyers and pay tax to the center govt. They can as well build their own seaport to deprive Lagos from custom revenue since SE citizens has highest number of citizen importing into the country. Then lets see how Lagos, Ogun, and other SW states can survive.

The gas reserve in imo state only which is biggest in Africa can sustain the whole SE in next hundred years, the trans Saharan gaspipe line that they are building now, where do think that Nigeria intend to supply Europe gas from?

If the whole SW is truly economically viable Awolowo won't bother to work with Gowon to stop Biafra from seceding.

Do you understand it now or is it still mentally challenging for you to grasp?

Many of you who are drown in the fantasy of falsehood can never see what is about to hit you.

Your leaders who know the implication of Kanu's Biafra agitation denied MNK and his Biafra when Buhari chose to give you your 5 States Biafra.

Since you have gas larger than the Atlantic ocean,why not mobilise your representatives to push for resource control tomorrow and abolish FAAC so you can begin to swim in your oil and gas.

Without Nigeria your region will be the first to collapse as Nigeria has been the one feeding your region and not the other way round

Gerhards:
Most of your comments is controlled by emotion, you should take your time to read before response, how old are you?

Define emotion?

How my comment correcting the childish behavior of someone about to emotion.

Mind you, use the correct words while responding

Zionmdde:
If you cannot afford using a flight now, you can't afford it if they rename it your father's name

Only poor people pay attention to useless things like this. You will soon see people who have not used flight since ticket went up to 50k coming here to argue rubbish

This one has come again projecting himself on everyone.

The guy ask a salient question rather do some reading so you can know what to type, fiam you jumped into the thread asking if he can afford it or not?

What a poor way of reasoning? Shame

chnnmfl:
Look at this agba.do illiterate peddling misinformation here.

Nigeria uses global crude oil price to plan her budget each year not taxes.

And by the way, for 2025 the govt projected 30 trillion in total revenue. Then total VAT revenue is projected at six trillion. So the Oyo VAT noise the state only contribute a fraction of is not even up to twenty percent of Nigeria's projected revenue for the year.

Even you don't know the meaning of illiterate so I excuse you on your ignorance.

Don't just post irrelevant caption that doesn't address the subject matter.

There is Federation where chunk of sub region revenue comes from FAAC, FAAC is Nigeria idea of ensuring Nigeria sub region survive by taking the wealth of the working subregion to support lazy states.

Now that this pattern can no longer hold and has to give way for states generating and surviving mainly on its generated income, Oyo state today has demonstrated that it's IGR that surpass that of 4 SE states stand a chance to survive than 4 states in SE put together.

shortgun:

You are the one misleading people with misinformation.
I've seen this severally and people like me can never be deceived.
Tax revenue is different from total revenue
The image below is what most you refer to all the time.
The statistics there is comparing taxes derived from oil and taxes derived from non oil sectors of the economy.
Emphasis on taxes!

Please type in English because what you wrote up there has no meaning and you haven't say anything.

Non oil revenue has surpass oil revenue that is the main discussion, stay within the confine of the subject matter.

Your above post says, "because
oil remains the main source of federal government revenue"

Is untrue, misleading and outright misinformation accept and move on and stop embarrassing yourself for lack of knowledge

shortgun:
Wrong!
What's important and of economic value is the oil producing states, because
oil remains the main source of federal government revenue and South east has 3 oil producing states....Imo, Abia and Anambra
Oyo is not an oil producing state.

What's important and of economic value to the Federal government are the oil producing states.
They provide about 85% of federal government revenue.

The VAT contribution you guys keep shouting up and down only contributes less than 13% of total federal government revenue.
Nigeria will collapse if it depends on VAT revenue!
Nigeria survives on oil revenue.
If they say keep your VAT and the oil producing states keep their oil, your state will not survive for a week

I've warned you to stop misleading people on Nairaland, you can't just listen to gossip and come to Nairaland to spew that as statement of fact.

ariesbull:
If you can call him a mediocre can you at least show us your submission ...so that we can know ..


You call him mediocre cia he is saying the truth

You have been trying to turn the thread to ethnic bashing but people have been calling your bluff.

State your own opinion about the article abi at all at all nothing enter your head hence to choose to attack the contributors and not the subject matter.

yummy001:
I am an Okun man whose ancestors migrated from ancient Ile-Ife to Okun land in the present day Kogi West. What you have just stated is a very big lie because I am a full-blooded Yoruba man... The Yoruba ethnic group indigenous natives transcends even Nigeria and can even be found in Benin Republic, Togo and The Gambia. It is the same scenario for indigenous Hausas in other African countries who are not even Nigerians.

Thank you, you schooled the guy

Dalohad:
The guy just dey expose him 'mugulity'..

DomPerignon abi na Domburudeen.. You say na wetin do you for nose?

For academic purposes please tell me 5 of Obi commissioners when he was a governor.

Please dont tell me to ask Goggle because I know goggle exist before asking you

Jammythebless:
This man is dam brilliant, this is unaggureablly one of the best article have read from this man
Infact the best I've read in recent times

For the records am from delta state but my intellectual mind sees beyond the parochial and sentimental attachments on this platform.
I have a cerebral cum objective mind

I quite agree with you. The article is crafty setup to promote NC inclusion without showing it.

Pkerogi being from NC see an opportunity of inclusion being denied by the core north each time they are in power, his concern was just that Tinubus appointment conveyed a Yoruba identity which he feels may not benefit his ethnic group within the NC.
His wish were so loud on the North towing similar part when it gets to their turn.

The article is well written and show his brilliance and cunny nature.

Pkerogi is like a skilled driver who drives recklessly when he passes his crush doormout

Afonja007:
Lagos is bigger than Singapore but Singapore economy is bigger than Nigeria

SE is slightly bigger than Oyo state but Oyo state generates more revenue than entire SE

Argue with StatiSense

43Ronin:
States are not allowed to build seaport, international airports(just local), and interstate railways in nigeria. Most nigerians don't know this, however its not your fault

Going by your warped opinion why did Lagos built Lekki seaport.

Many of you will wake up one day and see full blown Federalism.

A state that so desire to own a seaport will approach Federal Government and reach agreement about funding, regulations and management.

That Unitary system you hide under to become indolence will melt away to give birth to true federalism.

Stop FAAC disbursement and let every state manage the income it generates

chnnmfl:
You say "Clamor for abolition of FAAC"? South East weh dey look for outright disintegration, you dey talk of FAAC.

Wait till we get a fully functioning and viable seaport in Calabar, Warri or PH and see if they little IGR you see in Lagos and Ogun won't vanish.

You talk of feeding bottle govt? Remind me again why Awolowo had to work with Gowon just to prevent Biafra breakaway. I laugh in Chinese

Am sure this post is meant for dropout Obidient,

Which secession are you talking about, check the thread here. In Nairaland when Buhari called MNK to give him the 5 SE region, checkout the response of SS leaders and your leader who cursed MNK and pledge support for Nigeria.

It seems you don't know what's going on around you, SM has wrecked the consciousness of many young people

43Ronin:
All SE need is a seaport, then Lagos becomes deserted

Stop living in the past, In 2025, nobody will go build you a seaport, let your state build one if so desired or create a conducive environment to attract investors to build one for you, Lagos built her own, Ogun state own is in the pipeline.

Even Arewa has come to the realization and the are now pushing for restructuring, if you like wait for FG to come and build your bedroom for you.

Cancel FAAC today and let every state inherit his assets and liabilities

helinues:
Read and comprehend. You wasted your time asking AI inconsequential question

AI supposed give am e-slap

bizzle2:
Smart phones with stup!d users . IGR is tax, not development
The SE trends up in GDP, built up area, HDI etc in comparison to every other region.

Sharp eyes with dull brain won't know that IGR is fuel that powers the engine of a GDP in sane clime, enough of feeding bottle government. Develop your state with what you generate and money generated from SW should be kept in SW, if SE likes it can hang to GDP and let see how it will survive without FAAC.

Instead of state creation, tell your leader to clamour for abolition of FAAC. Let's see how leeches states will survive

onuman:
This SW legislator is most likely to be a Muslim.
He doesn't understand the difference between square meters and square kilometres.
He doesn't understand that land mass or population is not a yardstick when creating new states or local government areas in a country formed by different regions at independence.

He doesn't understand that military dictators from Northern region created the 36 states in Nigeria and proliferated too many non viable states in the old Northern region for drawing oyel money to the northern Region.

He does not understand that he is shooting his Yoruba people on the feet by opposition to the extra state asked for by the southeast zone
The business of such people is focus on how to undermine the Igbo in Nigeria.

Two can play the game

I used to advocate to for the creation of additional state for SE in the past, but their shenanigans has proved the don't need it.

Since you are the one that develop Lagos, and you have bought all the properties in Lagos, then your 6th state state is Lagos you crave so much for as the developer.

Going by your reasons for a state creation which should be based on viability, SE should even be 1 while Oyo state should be 2. The era of monkey dey work baboon dey shop is fading away and we will soon hit a point where each region will inherit its assets and liabilities

djseanjohn77:
That Ibadan you labeled "Big for nothing" knew civilisation before your forefather ever opened eyes - That Ibadan was already wearing a locally made clothes for several centuries while your forefathers used leaves and fronds to cover their unclothedness. Many of your elites, if it were not for Ibadan, they will never know what education was. I am from Lagos, but Ibadan is not your forefathers mate in anything. Your land have erased their past because they have none, but you see Ibadan, has modern developments more than what your god-forsaken land can ever have, and Ibadan still preserves the past - That's how to roll in a city that's far bigger than all your entire cities put together.

1. The magnificent 26-storey Cocoa House is the first skyscraper in tropical Africa and was the tallest building in Nigeria and West-Africa when it was built.
2. Adebayo Faleti was a man of many firsts: 3. Africa’s first stage play director, 4. Africa’s first film editor, 5. the first librarian with 6. the first television station in Africa (WNTV/WNBS now NTA) and 7. the first Yoruba presenter on television and radio. He was an actor, poet, journalist and film director.

The city hosted the first TV station in Africa, NTA Ibadan, which was established as Western Nigeria Television (WNTV).
8. The oldest surviving Nigerian newspaper is the Ibadan Tribune, which was founded by chief Obafemi Awolowo, the Premier of Western Nigeria.
The first private TV station, Galaxy TV in Oyo State, also started in the city.

9. The University of Ife, now Obafemi Awolowo University, Ile-Ife, founded in 1962, started from the present North Campus of the Ibadan Polytechnic, then known as the Nigerian College of Arts and Science.
It took it’s first set of 244 students on the 22nd of September 1962, with five faculties; – Agriculture, Arts, Economics, Social Studies (now Social Sciences), and Law. Your ancestors should thank Awolowo for opening their eyes to education and free education in SW.
The university resided in Ibadan until January 1968, when it finally relocated to its new permanent Campus in Ile-Ife. It’s first Vice Chancellor was Professor Oladele Ajose, succeeded in 1966 by Professor Hezekiah Oluwasanmi, a University of Ibadan Agricultural Economist.

10. The first stadium-the liberty stadium, patterned after the popular Wembley Stadium in London.

11. The first dualised road in Nigeria- named The Queen Elizabeth road, from Mokola to Agodi Secretariat, officially declared open, by the visiting Queen Elizabeth II in 1956.

12. The popular University College Hospital (U.C.H) , the first teaching hospital in Nigeria, patterned after the University of London Teaching Hospital (ULTH).
13. Ibadan also had the first highly organized and structured Civil Service in Nigeria
14. The free education programme of the Awolowo government, the first in Nigeria, was launched in Ibadan, in 1954.
15. As a honeypot, Ibadan became the home of the first set of Research and Training institutes in Nigeria.
16. The Forestry Research Institute (1930),
17. the Idi-Ayunre Cocoa Research Institute (CRIN),
18. The Nigerian Cereal Research Institute Moor Plantation (NCRI),
19. the NIHORT (Nigerian Institute of Horticultural Research), 20. the NISER (Nigerian Institute of Social and Economic Research),
20. IAR&T (Institute of Agriculture, Research and Training), amongst several others.
21. UKPABI ASIKA - Your ancestors should thank IBADAN PEOPLE for helping to shape your future.
It was from these interactions, that he consummated the friendships of many Ibadan intellectuals. It was Professor J.F Ade Ajayi, on the request of Olusegun Obasanjo, that scouted for Anthony Ukpabi Asika, a 31 year old radical teacher of Political Science at the University of Ibadan, to be made the Civilian Administrator of East Central State of Nigeria on the 29th of October 1967. Abi make i mention say Lagos gave Nnamdi Azikiwe proper education?

Benjamin Cardozo has said it all, when he said, “History in illuminating the past, illuminates the present and in illuminating the present, illuminates the future”
Ibadan presents fascinating landscape of tradition and modern features. Prominent in it’s old, indigenous core areas are the Iba’s market (Oja’aba), Beere and the Aafin Olubadan (King’s Palace). From the popular Mapo Hill and Hall, one can easily see, the sea of rusted brown roofs, described as “Running splash of rust:


Now, i challenge you to combine all Eastern States and compare with Ibadan history and achievements.

OYO - Ibadan IGR = ₦3.65trn - it grew to 5.4 trillion in 2024
see attachment.

Bro you have done justice to the topic. Ibadan is truly a pacesetter city, first among the rest

ZombieDredd:
What of the brown roofs and squalid lifestyles?

It's very cool, that's where 80% of your elite got their education. I love brown roof, will you come and get a life there?

Zionmdde:
How does the topic or what I said mean you should support anybody? Did you hear me say support anybody? How did ibadan being bigger bla bla bla translate to support anybody?

Have you seen you really need a job that will keep your mind busy. Ur mind dey go off track be that ooo

Yeah I need a job since I can get one with my 3rd class Philosophy I read at UNN.

I don't mind baby factory work, or anywhere they are producing fake drugs and fake wine

Zionmdde:
[b]Business men don't do all that tribalism [/b]stuff because a businessman appreciates the fact that the wider his business coverage, the more profitability

Now granny answer the question, how does it help you get the job you don't have

You are even trolling in the middle of the night, when your mates are either sleeping or making money.

Stating the obvious is tribalism and supporting government for its good work is tribalism. You expect me to support your underachiever who have no single legacy and not fit to govern Nigeria with his bigoted view and poor credentials.


It actually shows you don't have job and don't project your image other.

Just say the truth so I can help your ministry

Zionmdde:
Come on don't skip the question. How would it give you the job you don't have

I
I've probably been working before you were born .

I know your life depends job and salary for survival, mine don't, if you must do a job before you can eat in 2025, then you are not smart

Zionmdde:
And how would that improve the quality of your life

First increase the quality of your thoughts before you think of others

Zionmdde:
OK
And then what should we do with that info.

We should collapse 2 of their states with low IGR to form 1 state