₦airaland Forum

Eboofa:
This motor park tout thinks he can intimidate Ndigbo in Lagos........he is just pushing his luck! Trade fair belongs to the federal government.......this misfit was probably in primary or secondary school when the traders left Lagos island in 1995 ( 30 years ago) to get a lease from FG ...........only a complete slowpoke will destroy another man's work in the name of intimidation! Wahab or whatever dis nutcase is called should be very careful.......to take care of his matter is really not difficult!:

Are you equally calling Soludo and Otti slowpoke?

raumdeuter:
Seriously Tokunbo Wahab need to be in the running for next Lagos governor

I agree with you, this is the type of person Lagos need now as governor

stanluiz:
The ways you guys get opinions in what is happening in other people states.

By the way. Lagos being the former FCT was built and developed by FG together with hardworking and contribution of Nigerians.

What is your opinion on Kwara killings especially in the Southern parts of kwara that is home of indigenous Yorubas there ? Why are you guys silent ?

The way FG build Lagos is same way it built Anambra, Abia, Sokoto and Katsina.

Stop making unnecessary noise, FG developed every states same way it developed Lagos

CoronaVirusPro:
Lagos state laws must be so unique from other part of Africa and the world.

Does the same law also permit the below? Tokunbo needs to shed more light on Lagos laws.

If not sheer incompetence, where does contraventions stand in Lagos priorities. Education is decaying and it’s even the private sector that is making up for the incompetence of the government.

Healthcare in shambles. General hospitals are are like slaughter houses, and security is nothing to write about

They just pick up irrelevant priorities to make it look as it they working.

In 2025, a state with over Five Trillion Naira in debt but can’t boast of just clean pipe borne water across the small land mass.

Massive IGR, Debt and FG allocation with absolutely nothing to show for it. Not even a world class university. LASU sitting there like a modernized cattle ranch.

Everything just going backwards in Lagos, and when you talk, fellow Lagosians will still defend them.

We not even competing with the world at these point. Can we compete in Africa? Big NO!

Clap for yourself, everything is going backward in Lagos but everything is going forward in your state.
Clap for yourself again. At least Lagos with have a new breadth from nagging and irritant neighbor

It is SanwoOlu I blame for all these nonsense that is being thrown at Lagos. Lagosian must chose someone who will protect the interest of the state in the next election

We don hear you, you can come and be going,chief advicer. Dangote needs your advise to become the wealthiest man in the world

There's nothing bad in that provided he is competent but he need to undergo courageous test, we don't want sisi like Humphrey Nwosu who flee when Abacha cough

mrvitalis:
GDP figures are independent of states
GDP are absolutely truths
Igr is personal truth

How did you arrive at this?

Mrfixitt:
look who's talking about respect. You lots talk shits about Peter Obi every day as if he's responsible for your family misfortunes. Dude pack well

Is Peter Obi your father? Do you even know him or have anything to do with him before.

Am telling you what Obi stands to gain from this government you are there getting emotional.

Make you no cry for who no send you

mrvitalis:
GDP is how u measure economy
GDP per capita is how you measure productivity
HDI is how u measure government impacts on the people

Go to school boy

Don't confuse yourself IGR is your revenue that you generate out of economic activities from your state.

IGR indicate ,2 major things, the state's economic state of health and the government financial status ability to spend money on capital and other expenses,

It is not possible to tax a struggling state, and also their ability to execute project and still do other expenses will be limited to the money they generate.

In a true federalism, your state will only be limited in finance by how much you can generate.

Mind you, IGR doesn't solely rely on tax, government profits from investments royalty, rents and other forms of revenue generated within that state is IGR.

Burob:
Dude with all due respect na just nonsense u yapped, when we had western region of Nigeria wetin concern us for Delta State today, with people from Osogbo under the same western region?

Wetin concern people from Plateau State today, from old northern region, with Sokoto man from old northern region?

You forgot Delta was carved out to form Midwest region based on the peoples choice through referendum.

Which referendum give birth to unproductive states we have presently

Mrfixitt:
Reserve your pity for your family and cronies who are suffering because of Tinubu's misrule.

The thing touch your nerve. By their comments you know people who who have no respect for their parents and family

mrvitalis:
Anyone can raise igr if they choose to
Enugu has the smallest GDP in South East yet has largest igr is nothing special

Just like saying anyone can increase his income, I don miss your lamba on this forum. Once you drop it ground must shake

Like say na you Peter Obi go pass the baton to when he retire

Burob:
Please can u explain what the difference is between regions & states?

Region is natural God's given grouping that our forefather accept as basic for being part of Nigeria while state are military delianation for administrative purpose and means of entrenching Unitary and centralised government.

Don't be surprised if you don't see same meaning using AI. Just as won't see same meaning to the type of Federalism we presently practice

ThePostngr:
2027 Election: Disquiet, Anger In ADC Over Peter Obi’s Moves
There is growing disquiet in the fledgling African Democratic Congress (ADC) over rumoured move by former presidential candidate of the Labour Party, Peter Obi, to seek another platform ahead of the 2027 general elections.

According to media reports, over the weekend, the former Anambra State Governor is considering dumping his new platform, the ADC

DETAILS HERE
https://www.thecapital.ng/2027-election-disquiet-anger-in-adc-over-peter-obis-moves/

Guy man don japa, maybe na the condition wey dem give am before they can award that mouth watering contract for his company.

I pity his ignorant folowers

adetoya234:
The rapid rise in Enugu Igr needs to be studied. What’s more baffling is that the state is classified as a civil service state.

I notice it too, very commendable, but look at Oyo state and Anambra, that are competing with Boko Haram infested states

Most the states are just too lazy, unproductive and backward. How can you justify your revenue depends solely on FAAC and not what you work for.

Regionalism is the answer

WizardOfNG:
You missed my point completely. Of course I don't discount inefficiency and incompetence in the system merely because I did not speak on them specifically.

My point is that regardless of what is going on in the power sector, per numerous and connected considerations, the scarily substantial shortfall of money our Nigerian power sector needs is a very serious challenge.

The power sector is now fully deregulated yet States are dragging their feet. What they will not reveal is that many States may have approached qualified private companies for power solutions.

Yet cost of project completion, that will be collected in instalments by the Private sector partner to State Governments, and additional ROI (return on investment) added to that, makes State realize they cannot approve such and move forward as their people will not be able to pay the huge subsidy hike that will be needed, long term, to pay for the delivered solution.

It is a case of Nigeria falling so far behind, with severe underinvestment in her power sector for decades, such that the cost of modernisating and optimising our power supply sector today will be humongous and unfeasible to the extent Government , State or Federal, cannot even derive a fraction of what is need from the Nigerian public. That is the real conundrum.

No, you lack the moral competence to advocate for or rather defend the paucity of resources at the disposal of the power operators when there's no working data they intentionally witheld from the government and the consumers.

The greatest injustice I've ever seen in my life perpetuated by the DISCOs. These are private companies that rely on consumer to provide basic tools the need.

The public provide, transformers, meters, cables, poles and still pay for transport and labour before they can get light that is not stable.

The elites are not left out as politician are forced to buy transformers and pay contractors to give their community light.

Go through Nigeria budget and you will see the amount of interventions in forms of transformers cables and the rest that are provided for private business.

I won't forgive this government if it fails it fails to reform majorly the DISCO by revoking the licences of many of them.

Again defending the state government cum investor for their inability to invest in power sector because they find it unattractive is another point I won't accept.

Why does it take Dangote for us to have a functional refinery when at least 10 states can build theirs without breaking the bank.
The present lackluster we see in power sector after the bill has been signed is same inefficiency that exist in government to cater for the social needs of its people. This social needs may not necessarily be in terms of intervention, but in terms of reforms, creating conducive atmosphere and weilding the big stick to tame the excesses of companies and corporations

WizardOfNG:
The government is still subsidising power. Tariff increase reduces the subsidy element. The higher Nigerians pay for power the more subsidy reduces and power supply increases.

It's a catch 22 situation nairalander1 has done a good job explaining. The real cost of power supply is very high.

Much higher than a less than optimal.number of Nigerians are paying and still complaining. I can't blame them as they had been paying literally less than nothing trapping our power sector in inefficiency since it cannot meet the cost to improve power considerably let alone provide the 24/7 supply many nations of the world takes for granted

Meaning optimal power supply will remain a challenge because Nigerians don't like to pay for power and would want it free pretty much how they'd want everything else free if possible.

This is part of our general problem as a nation. Previous Government invented and sustained subsidy everywhere, deployed us as weaponized poverty, to make Nigerians addicted to living like a nation that has just come of out a ten years war without them appreciating that fact.

Nairalander1 even highlighted this with his talk of the communism , what Nigeria, was practising in all but words, hinting we were like the Old Soviet Union where Governemnt subsidized a lot it could not afford to do leading to debt and near State collapse. This is why many describe communism, that Nigeria has embraced till Tinubu took over, as "evil".

The President who now wishes to reform Nigeria in the image of developed nations where people pay the requisite amount to enjoy stable power, high quality education, efficient public transport etal is going to have a tough job on his hands.

This is because Nigerians, addicted to subsidy they do not realize is bad for them and even keeping them in underdevelopment and bondage compared to their peers worldwide, will call that President "terrible" and "worst ever" as we are seeing now.

To me, the only way forward is regional autonomy because communism has happened to Nigeria on the downlow and has now ruined many Nigerians by warping their perception and how they think.

Let's all go and lead ourselves at regional level. People should check out chatgpt's opinion with point 4 and 5 especially explaining why Nigeria is failing and why the ambition, healthy competition, incentivisation that produces innovation and hardworking, that develops nations optimally, is likely only ever going to happen under regional autonomy.

You don't have idea of what is happening in power sector. Government is not subsidizing power. What government is subsidizing is darkness.

Do you know how much institutions,companies, government agencies and parastatals budget annually for expected power outage?

If those monies were not budgeted don't you think it would have impacted on the cost of goods and services there by increasing the purchasing power of an average Nigerian to pay for increased power bills?

What many of you don't see is that our power sector is on the brink of collapse, not because of lack of fund but because of poor management that is shrouded in secrecy, the power sector is going the Nitel way, unless government quickly step in and reform the sector from generation down to the. DISCO.

Presently, the DISCOS are losing customers at alarming rate because of their poor performance, people will settle for alternative power that is reliable and constant.

This is why ASO Rock has shift to solar energy and companies like Dangote and other are generating their power, even academic institutions and religious institutions. This is how useless the power sector has become that the chunk of class where the bulk of revenue of the DISCO will come from are dumping their services for private supply.

Write this down, the whole chain of power supply will go down the drain in the next 10years unless the government quickly reform the sector

Mandem05:
Chai!! You have raised a great point that I'd like to explore. When comparing USA electricity billing system where almost all the customers pay their bills, as opposed to the Nigerian electricity billing system that most Nigerians as subjected to (not by choice). The only thing that stands out to me is the fact that I practically all customers of the American electricity companies have meters that accounts for the electricity they use. As opposed to the estimated billing we have in Nigeria where basically you may not have had electricity all month but at the end of the month you have an electricity bill presented to you to pay.

IF DISCOS were responsible companies the first task they would have undertaken would have been to provide prepaid electricity meters for their customers as it is done in some parts of UK.

Thank you sir.

That is the foundation and a prerequisite condition the distribution company must fulfilled before the government and the customers can entertain any other requests or complain they have

In fact, metering everyone means accountability and transparency and the government and the players in energy sector can adequately analyse the data that the system present.

Presently there are no records, no data and no verifiable information to support distribution companies claim. How can new investors even come in when the system is run in dubious and intentional manner of secrecy?

nairalanda1:
Let me ask you a question...have you heard of meter bypass.?

Very common, and that is why metering, despite being desirable, won't solve the problem

Also, even if we metered everyone...AND WE SHOULD, Before you come and say I support esitimated billing.....it still does not solve the fact that most consumers are at best paying below market price, and your government subsidies ar enot enough.

Gas prices are increasing ....that makes things worse.

You are only being clever by half by asking me questions rather than answering the straight forward question I asked you.

Please answer this question without any ambiguity

Let me ask you, will metering of all houses that needs electricity increase the revenue of the distribution companies?


Yes or No

nairalanda1:
Okay, that means that you are essentially saying government shoult take loans to keep the power free of charge.

Keep in mind that because discos cannot increase power fees for most of their consumer base and because discos are being underpaid by same consumer, EVEN WITH THE SUBSIDIES IN PLACE...and at least 30% don't pay for power at all...that is why they dont have enough money to pay gencos.

I effing am not defending anyone....and the fact that you assume I am defending anyone shows you completely misunderstand my point.

Again, remember we need 15 trillion naira annually to fix power to all our tastes. Porfits earned by discos amount to 1 trillion naira at best, annually, then subsides paid by government amount to 1 trillion annually, that is, if they are paid self.

And we need to increase generation. We need 32000 mw to supply everyone connected to the grid right now with 24/7 power, and we need 88000 mw to give every nigerian household 24/7 power. If you think that N1 trillion naira profit would be enough for that, then you are one of those that bought your ferrari last year for N400.

Ok...jokes over.

The fact is, the sector has a liquidity problem, because we...the rich and the poor, are not paying market price for power. And that is a problem

You have GSM Phones because you pay market price for their service...and the government does control prices but not to the extent where they dip below market price. Unlike for power.

You are not correct with what you are saying and you just base your opinion on propaganda the distribution companies dish out.

Let me ask you again. Who do you think pay more presently between a consumer that uses distribution companies electricity to pump household water and the one who pumps his water through a solar set up.

Please I need a straight forward response and not a conjecture and the propaganda stuff

nairalanda1:
Again, most nigerians who are electricity consumers are charged at a price below the market price. Government pays a subsidy that is not able to cover resulting losses...because tinubu and apc don't understand that their job is to make nigeria richer.

Again, we need 15 trillion annually for 5-10 years to fix power. Most of that money needs to come from investments...and our pocket. Tell me, would any investor agree to invest in a power sector where most people are underpaying or not paying at all. This is not GSM, where you cannot use a phone without paying.

Again, we need to fight corruption in the sector . GOes without saying.

Better face reality. I hate the reality, but here we are. The alternative is that we take loans until our debt becomes unsustainable, and we run out of money...because power must be free of charge.

Let me ask you, will metering of all houses that needs electricity increase the revenue of the distribution companies?


Yes or No

[quote author=Mandem05 post=137030648][/quote]Let me ask you, will metering of all houses that needs electricity increase the revenue of the distribution companies?


Yes or No

nairalanda1:
Okay, let's pretend we can have power for free, in other words.

You know I am right, but you think that I am calling for your oppression. I am not, I am stating the truth, and nothing but the truth.

Google...solving the liquidity crunch in the power sector. PwC report on the power sector from 2019.

Look you are not talking to a novice, I operate is a sector of energy and I know what am saying.

No one is saying power should be given freely. But why are the disco unwilling to give people meter even when people are ready to pay for what is supposed to be free.

Mainwhile government have paid for these meters which supposed to be the responsibility of the power provider, yet the hoard it from customers.

If you don't know that distribution companies are exploiting
1. The government
2. The generation company
3. The customers
Then you are not qualify to defend them.

nairalanda1:
Oga, let's end this your marxist jokes and commentary

At the moment, discos cannot raise prices on most of their consumers. Only on band A , and even then it is not up to 300 naira

As a result, disco profits are at 1trillion naira annually. That seems like a lot, until you realize that we need 10 trillion naira (I am quoting the experts by the way) annually to fix power to everyne's satisfaction.

Right now, less than 20% of consumers are paying market price tarrif, most are paying subsidized tarrif, and even those that pay subsidised tarrif, many underpay or don't pay at all.

Can you run a business where you are making profit from less than 20% of your consumers and losing money on the rest.

Call me oppressor, but what you are indirectly campainging for is for government to take loans to subsidize power. That is what the USSR was doing to keep the lights on at cheap prices, until their economy was in severe debt by the late 1980's. They were also guaranteeing subsides for their satellite nations and allies. And they were borrowing from the same imperial capitalist west.

Call me oppressor, but , and forget about tinubu and apc, I have known this since GEJ privatized power, and I wish he had had a backbone....and allowed deregulation...it is going to cost a lot of money to fix our power sector. And most of it is going to come from our pockets.

Or how did we get the GSM/Internet network that enables me to type this from home, instead of going to internet cafe back in the day...it wasn't by MTN and co charging N2 for subscription in 2003!

Your argument seems not to be in line with reality.

Two of your points are entirely ridiculous.

1 You claim Nigerians don't want to pay for power. That is not true, examples abound where you see people go as far as linking 33 kva where they could get enough regular light, these people don't complain about the cost and the bill they will pay provided they get light

2. Your assertion that Nigerians are charge undervalue of service render is not true. There is no empirical data from you to back up this claim as many who generate power themselves have discovered that it is more cheaper and maintenance cost of electricity is the very low once these power infrastructures are installed.

The whole lots of subsidy you talk about won't be there if the management of disco are prudent and not enmeshed in massive corruption.

Now that everyone is investing in private power, your disco will only be left people at the end of the ladder who doesn't value and can't afford electricity.

The management of power sector needs complete overhauling and adopt modern technology in their service. Stop defending the failed power sector as they are not doing us any favour

FarahAideed:
These companies if traced will all be linked back to one greedy person ..Lagosian electricity users should prepare for massive exploitation and extortion , you will soon started hearing things like 500 Naira per KWH and annual metre License charge of 30k ..just watch

This thread should be strictly for constructive discussion and not for tribal or unsubstantiated insinuation and meaningless conjecture.

Hater and bigot should stay away and not intrude into what doesn't concern you.

Mod should do the needful and delete any post that will derail this beautiful thread

Is there no NURTW in Anambra, Imo and Owerri?

Who control the one in those states?

Simple question requires simple answer. Don't quote me if you don't have straight answer to my questions

Ofunaofu:
You are not from Lagos, your father doesn't own a square foot size of a keke parking spot any where in Lagos, though you may be yoruba as I can deduce from your comment because it is soaked in the same tired cocktail of tribal revisionism and historical cherry-picking that some of you mistake for facts. You keep shouting we developed Lagos, yet you ignore the critical contributions of non-Yoruba Nigerians who continue to power its economic engine today. Let’s clear this up again since you’re still struggling with comprehension.

First, I never said the success story of Lagos is my “2x2” shop. That’s your strawman, that is your propaganda not my argument. What I said, and what you keep dodging, is this: you cannot dismiss the enormous contribution of small businesses, traders, and entrepreneurs many of whom are Igbo and other non-Yoruba Nigerians to Lagos’ economic rise. Whether it’s Alaba, Ladipo, Balogun, or Computer Village, these are multi-billion naira ecosystems, a value chain that pay taxes, create jobs, and generate revenue not "petty trade."

[b]Second, your claim that Igbos only began “mass migrating” to Lagos after the FCT moved to Abuja is a lie and an embarrassingly lazy one. Igbos were living, trading, and even owning property in Lagos long before independence. [/b]In fact, they were among the earliest and most prominent non-Yoruba settlers in Lagos Island, Yaba, and Surulere.

Third, Lagos being a trade centre long before independence is not in dispute and no one ever said Lagos was desolate. What you’re refusing to accept is that Lagos became a megacity not just because of colonial roads or Awolowo’s cocoa policy, but because people from across Nigeria poured in, invested, worked, and turned it into the economic powerhouse it is today. Infrastructure doesn’t build prosperity on its own, people do.

You talk about Awolowo, cocoa money, and colonial footprints as if they magically built the Lagos skyline. But post-independence Lagos, the one with corporate towers, industrial estates, global investment, and a massive consumer base was fueled by a national influx of human capital, business, and labour.

Fourth, your talk of “benevolence” is insulting. Nigerians are not second-class citizens in Lagos or anywhere else in this country. People don’t need to beg Yoruba approval to live or thrive in a federal republic. Nobody forced anyone to come to Lagos, they came because it’s their constitutional right to live and do business anywhere in Nigeria. Lagos didn’t do Nigeria a favour by being the capital, it benefited immensely from being the political and economic centre of the country for decades.

And let’s talk taxes: over 65% of Lagos' IGR comes from PAYE and corporate taxes, not land levies or indigenes’ goodwill. Who pays these? Multinational companies, SMEs, private businesses run and staffed by Nigerians of all ethnicities. You act like Lagos was self-made, but without Nigeria its capital status, its population influx, its ports, its businesses, Lagos would be a glorified coastal town.

You also conveniently ignore that the port you're dismissing is a key economic driver, and yes, Igbo importers are a significant part of the Lagos port economy. No, they don’t own the port, but their volume of trade in electronics, auto parts, fashion, machinery rivals that of any other group, and those goods are sold across Lagos, Nigeria and West Africa. That’s not delusion, that’s fact.

Lastly, this “go and develop your region” nonsense is tribal bigotry dressed as advice. Development isn’t held back by traders or migrants it’s held back by bad governance, corruption, and the same ethnic gatekeeping you’re doing here. If you want balanced national growth, fight for it don’t scapegoat Nigerians for exercising their right to invest and prosper wherever they choose.

Lagos is Yoruba land nobody disputes that. But its success? That belongs to all Nigerians who built, lived, and bled for it. Your ancestors planted seeds, sure but it took the labour, taxes, and enterprise of a nation to grow the forest. You don’t own the fruits alone just because your people cleared part of the land centuries ago.

It’s 2025. Time to grow out of ethnic entitlement and join the rest of us in nation-building. If facts feel like insults, maybe it's your pride that’s too fragile.

This is true because there was no single shop or complex own by private individuals especially the Igbo in the Trade Fair that was demolished today, they normally bring their wares during Trade Fair week from Alaba and Balogun in every November of the year.

Yes, 95% of Ibo that resides in Lagos today came to Lagos after FCT have been moved to Abuja.

Atiku you that doesn't live in Nigeria only to come every 4 years to come and contest for president is far worse

lexy2014:
the message you shared is just what one said she desires.

how is it now "the new pattern the women use now day when time is no longer on their side"?

You still carry your question and answer come here?

opeldavid:
Lagos State should stop this reckless behaviour against the Igbos.
The hatred is getting out of hand.

What's the reckless behavior all about,?