real4jesus: for all those who have spoken Ridicule against God, u have your self to blame
cos only a fool says there is no God! u are too little to want to understand God! it is like digging a hoe and saying you want to empty the whole ocean into that whole
there is no searching of his knowledge thers is no understanding of his power HE IS THE I AM THAT IAM, even if u have no respect for your earthly parents, FEAR GOD, his wrath is too great u said in your own word that the earth is too little u can imagine how humans are
just the way u draw an image with pencil on a paper and erase it or use yur finger to draw on the sand and wipe off that is how God can take us out of existence, be carfeful for this little tongue of yours can set fire to your whole being GUIDE YOUR HEART WITH ALL DILIGENCE FOR OUT OF IT FLOWS THE ISSUES OF LIFE. DO NOT JOKE WITH GOD! U ARE TOO LITTLE FOR HIM
How can you Love and FEAR something at the same time?
jusRadical: ROSSIKE! ROSSIKE!! ROSSIKE!!! How many times did I call you? Stop talking of things bigger than you ooooo!!!! Hhhhmmmmm!!!!! I beg you, do not incur the wrath of GOD in your sin ridden life ooooo. Go and ask people that debated on this issue and died without repentance where they are now. He that has ear let him hear oooooo!
You know, you guys make this your God sound like a jobless buffoon.
With all the hunger, poverty, pain and oppression, dying children, disasters etc in this world, You mean he/she/it has no better job to do than to stand guard at Rossikie's oral cavity and start recording every sentence oozing out?
With all the lies, 419, brainwashing and robbery in churches done in the name of Jesus, I think that jewish carpenter should be killed again. Add to that the wars, death and destruction in his name then the messiah should hanged by his holy balls and fried alive.
I wonder how someone could be so moronic as to call a fellow human like them (who died over 2000 years ago) ''God''. That some people are still waiting on him to fly down from heaven and take them up borders on madness.
And who is the slowpoke who deleted my post without as much as a reason why?? Which rules did it contravene?
I better get answers else I'm gonna repost it as soon as I get to my computer.
Chineke me anyi ebere. . . So some people consider artificial insemination "perverted" YET have no problems paying and doing it? Well, desperation can really make us doooo things. Nothing on this nairaland can shock me again.
Deep Sight: ^^^ Well sorry, that is my view. I am not going to change it, thanks. I cannot imagine myself entering a jaw-jaw with people who may wish to defend that church on account of what they may view as slander of their pastor. I just dont have the inclination for such.
What i prefer to understand is exactly how such persons are able to retain and even grow their congregations? Why do people respond to such behaviour? Its a psycological question which will not be answered by any unnecessary yabbis and counter-yabbis session.
Dont be deceived, I dont really give a crap If you change your mind or not. The state of your mind it totally worthless to me.
Just wanted to show your hypocrisy. Giving us daft reasons is not necessary. Besides who made you moderator that you have to now worry about doing their duties. Even if the pastor's members come to defend their pastor will that not make for interesting discourse to see why they think their pastor is justified in his actions? And who better to get answers fron than the congregation of the man? Or people here who might through his name recognise him and remember how he started out?
No dey insult our intelligence with pry 6 excuses. Abeg carry go jor!
Deep Sight: I really don't know what gets you so excited Mr. Man. You need to stop making assumptions. I already gave my reason for not naming the church
Here it is again -
So quit the ch.it chat about "fvck mates" etc. That person is neither a "fvck mate" or even aware of the existence of nairaland.
My reason for not naming the church has been given: and i shall not change my mind on that save if I am given sound reasons for such.
yea, I saw that rubbish. I assumed you where high when you typed it.
Err, how will it be reduced to a yabbis session?? Can you explain pls? Or does that not qualify as you making "assumptions"??
Deep Sight: Twice i was handed the envelopes, twice i turned them down. I could not bring myself to donate a kobo to advance such a ministry. That would make me guilty by association and contribution. I think that is enough to render one a willing accomplice.
So refusing to name and shame the crooked pastor on the grounds of not offending your fu.c.k-mate, in effect shielding the fraud which therefore makes you an accomplice.
Does that not make you Guilty by toto lusting
For someone who accuses others of hypocrisy, Your double standards are amazing.
Mai Suya: So the guy was driving while drunk? Poor thing. . .
Poor thing Did they force feed him the alcohol?
The bas.tard deserves to die. Most of these fools on this thread will be singing a different song if the daft dagrin had in his drunken stupor run over their parents or loved ones in the accident.
A drunk driving bufoon is no better than a gun wielding sicko who walkes into a packed street of kids and opens fire.
I have been a victim of an accident caused by a drunk driver who just came out of nowhere and catapaulted my car into a sommersault. I am very lucky to be alive.
Any human daft enough to drink and drive is SCUM and DESERVES TO DIE ALONE.
We should hold thanksgiving for the death of the bufoon.
More importantly, its been almost 7 months since over 500 innocent people where massacred in Jos. . . . Lets feel sorry for them and Remember them.
vinmol: only a fool says there is no God! u better repent of this now or u will not live long enough to tell the story believe me honestly! go and find out what happened to all those who has openly confessed this statement!
SMH. . . The usual empty threats.
For the record can you tell us what happened to those who ''openly confessed this statement''?
Ivynwa: My gal grammy-winner Dion, 42, gave birth to twin boys on Saturday by Caesarean section shortly after 11 a.m. at a Florida hospital in New York. "Celine, Rene and their son Rene-Charles are thrilled," Dion's representative told People magazine. The twins were born healthy but premature and will spend a few days in an incubator. Celine is one mature singer whose music I love from the depth of my heart, Sing me "Stand by your side", "River deep,mountain high" and "To love you more" and I am all blissful.
Come-o-o, I didn't know that a woman can have kids at 42, I thought it was said that giving birth should stop at 40? Somebody please put me right. Me I want to have twins too-----OMG, why can't I find me a man to have babies with. I even want to have as many as 4,5 or 6 because I love them kids much and at 34 I do not have their father much more the kids. Growing up as the good girl mother asked me to be has left me in lonely soup. Abeg make una helep me find a good man--o-o to have sweet babies and twins with because if una leave me-o-o I no know how to find-o-o-o bikonu my people. O serious-o-o-o!
Its one of three things, either you are extremely ugly, anti-social or physically deformed or even all three together .
And the way you go around nairaland complaining and wailing that sexually suggestive pictures be removed from a thread in the sexuality section shows the kind of self-righteous nuisance of a person you are. No man is gonna put up with a Holier-than-thou individual.
You also come across as pretty wierd. Declaring fasting and prayer for 33 miners trapped in chile? Shows you're a kind of fellow who doesnt engage her brains/intellect but prefers to keep believing in starving yourself so a jewish magician in the skies can bail you out.
I laugh, keep ''believing and starving in god for your husband''. I guess god throws men with big JT's from heaven for una. Or better still ask jesus to marry you. Dont work on yourself and make an effort, just leave everything to the king of kings.
Bad news for you though, women over 30 have a high risk of giving birth to babies with genetic defects like Downs Syndrome, autisic babies and the rest. All in all, it doesnt look good for you, does it?
Dont worry, our God is a good god and works magic.
Pastor AIO: Since you have so much time for the guy why don't you refer him to some of the threads where they have been thrashed out before.
not really. . . I dont have such time. i'm on the move alot these days and post via a handheld device. Besides i think it'll be a waste the dude doesnt even understand what he is copying and pasting, so why bother?
philip0906: Then u dat thinks rationally,should simply counter d "copy and paste"
silly joke. Like I said, you are making a fool outta yourself. These ur plagiarisms have been thrashed out here before thats why everyone leaves you to continue your embarrassing dance of shame. Funny
philip0906: Very lame reply,cos u evaded this question If men are the lawgivers, then which men are the ones to decide what is right? On what basis can the rightness or wrongness of an action be determined?
Is this dude not foolish?? Kindly intelligently show me what is "silly" in what I posted. Discuss like you have a brain and not like a dead goat.
You ask me who are the lawgivers?? Have you ever heard of the national assembly or government??
philip0906: And harakiri went further 2 keep asking me questions?By d way,y r u overboard about me answering harakiri's questions?R u a "theist"?How did atheism and Deism become partners?So even if I replied,a deist,an atheist would be contended?U r confused. . .Chill for harakiri 2 come in,pose his questions and u watch 4rm d back seat.It ain't about u
rubbish. harakiri as he stated went further to ask other questions coz you where busy running around his oP. it was clear the questions in the op where too much for you and your pain was clearly visible. over a week now since the oP we are yet to see any answer from you.
i aint asking you any new questions. i simply ask that you tackle the OP and prove to harakiri a deist that the christian god exists
BTW, you dont need to wait for harakiri, the questions in the OP are on page 1go there and tackle them. or are you now blind in addition to your amnesia? hahhahhahahahah
philip0906: Stop screaming dude like u scored some points. . .On this,thread, U've done absolutely nothing.Mazaje,harakiri and even Idi-amin have asked some "pertinent" questios,all u do is run around my posts Below,is harakiri replying me directly and even asking me questions,which I answered and waiting 4 him 2 confirm,counter or ask more .did u c it? If u can first admit seeing the answers,I would definitely provide more.U r even chanced I'm replying u,cos u don't even merit my reply,I'm only passing time.Dats y I've been balling along with u,not sure your ignorant brain noticed The real deal,is who I have been waiting 4
shut up again jo. See who is accusing me of shouting? Is it the same dude using bold and large fonts that is accusing me?? I laugh ooo
here is a section of the quote you gave. Quote from; Harakiri
The thing is, you still haven't answered the original questions that were asked.Instead you have spent valuable time and considerable effort beating about the bush.What a pity!
did you miss that?? Consistent with what I said earlier, you have NOT addressed the posers raised by harakiri in the OP rather kept beating about the bush and harakiri then had to divert attention to bible contradictions since he knew even if you are given till next millenium you still wont come up with intelligent answers to the posers in the OP.
So my good man. You have NOT answered anything. Go back to the OP and prove to Mr Harakiri who is a deist why he should believe the christian God exists.
Err and dont foolishly come up with the cosmological argument again else you'll kill us with laughter. Hahahahaha
philip0906: [size=18pt]lol. . .I c.Where were u,when harakiri was asking me questions on this thread?U just barged i here talking like u some inteligent beign?Y don't u click a few pages backward and see what transpired between I and harakiri?D'u think its what u say,dat will make me jump all in a bid 2 "prove" 2 u?Harakiri has asked me questions here,which I have replied.Waiting 4 him 2 come down here and counter or even ask more.Ignoramus[/size]
philip0906: [size=18pt]lol. . .I c.Where were u,when harakiri was asking me questions on this thread?U just barged i here talking like u some inteligent beign?Y don't u click a few pages backward and see what transpired between I and harakiri?D'u think its what u say,dat will make me jump all in a bid 2 "prove" 2 u?Harakiri has asked me questions here,which I have replied.Waiting 4 him 2 come down here and counter or even ask more.Ignoramus[/size]
Shut up. Harakiri asked salient questions in his OP. if you notice harakiri in the OP kept making reference to the bible. Not once have you answered those questions only to come on page 7 and start pasting from google the Cosmological and moral argument to A DEIST then claim amnesia when asked to prove the god in the bible you claim to worship. Jeez I cant stop laughing. . .
You are indeed foolish to the core. I suggest you go enligthen yourself about atheism, deism, theism, pantheism and so on. Have a basic understanding then you come and discuss with Harakiri. Stop making a fool out of yourself dude.
philip0906: Utter rubbish. . .u now want 2 force me into been u?Like I posted on d other site,even atheists were found in a survey 2 admit that they "Believed in God". . .So even if I was taught to believe,I have reached a stage where I decide what I want and I have no doubts whatsoever,dat THERE IS GOD. . .so live with it
hahhhaaaaaaaaaa. I laugh in ecstasy.
Mr Harakiri A DEIST asks that you prove the existence of the "christian god", some mofo comes along and starts pasting the cosmological and theological arguments TO A DEIST, thinking he has arrived. See how foolish you are?? OmG, I cant stop laughing.
Let me tell you a secret. You know why everyone(that includes deist, atheist, agnostic, theist, satanist etc) just ignored you when you began posting design and cosmological argument thinking you have arrived?? Well its Because for a time last year, infact every week a new thread arose where we discussed the ontological argument, cosmological, teleological, the moral argument and pascals wager.
So frankly these issues have been thrashed out ad nauseum here. So dont come here thinking you have anything new.
So unless you can heed to Mr Harakiri's wishes and prove the existence of Yahweh/jehovah I suggest you shut the hell up and stop making noise.
philip0906: stop tying a rope round your neck. . .Since u know dat d Christian idea of God is different 4rm other religions,I simply asked u 2 explain 2 me d concept of "Christian God". . .I see now where in my Bible saying "Christian God" rather I see "GOD" and every point made,is in relation 2 GOD.So it means it is a concept formed by human beings. . .Simply explain 2 me d concept,and stop playing hide and seek with me?
Oh shut up and stop running.
In your bible you dont just see ''God''. Infact other gods like baal and many others were mentioned. The ''God'' of the bible is clearly defined, its attributes, behaviour and characteristics are clearly stated there.
The OP of this thread Mr Harakiri is not an atheist rather he is a deist. He believes a creator exists which he calls God. Kindly prove to Mr Harakiri that the God that created the earth and created him is Jehovah/yahweh. Its that simple. That is why he created the thread and not for the rubbish you were copying and pasting.
philip0906: U r still hitting your head on a brick wall. . .Kindly explain 2 me what u mean by "christian God"?I have been a christian 4rm small and have always known there is a God.Its here on nland I am seeing "christian God" Man,atheists ain't as fast as they claim 2 be.In my Bible,I never saw anything lke "Christian God",so its definitely a term coined by desperate beings.So I am waiting for u 2 explain 2 me d concept of "Christian God".
I laugh. This dude actually wants me to explain to him -a so called "christian"- who the "christian god" is?? what a fat joke
so you dont know the christian idea of god is different from the muslim idea, buddist idea, olumba idea and so on? Are you that illiterate?
I'm glad you say "in my bible". Kindly show us with evidences/proof why we should believe your "bible god" exists. This is what the thread is about.
Why is allah not the creator of the universe? Orunmila? Zeus? Chaos? Oneness of infinity?? Aliens?? Why are these gods not The God??
I repeat, prove that the christian god exists and stop ranting. You can use google and copy and paste as usual.
philip0906: [size=18pt] U r definitely confused. . .How did u know dat I wasn't refering 2 d Christian God?SO which "God" was I refering 2?muslim God?Jewish God?Budhist God?U r only looking 4 a narrow escape.U ain't even an intelligent atheist at all.U don't know how 2 put your qestions.I just showed dat God indeed exists,u r telling me "Christian" God.Mind u,what I just put up there is a proof dat d "Christian God"(a term atheists "intelligently" coined out) exists,if dats what u want 2 hear. . .I was expecting u 2 come and counter not pose "unintelligent" questions[/size]
My friend shut the f**k up! The rubbish you copied and pasted can be used by muslims to prove allah no?? Used by ifa, sango and amadioha worshippers too, no be so?? Infact deists on this forum like deepsight who do not believe in the christian god use those arguments regularly.
Its obvious you are an illiterate. Those are all arguments for deism i.e, the existence of a God and not specific for any god or gods.
This thread asks, does the CHRISTIAN god actually exist. Meaning The thread goes further to ask that YOU prove the God to be the "christian idea of god". Why is this hard and painful for you?
You had better gives us proof for the christian god and stop ranting foolishly.
philip0906: This is actually a very good point I like laying up to doubters and atheists. . . The Existence of Morality Most people believe that there is such a thing as "right" and "wrong". For example, some people believe it is morally wrong to impose your point of view on someone else. Most people believe it is wrong to kill people because you don't like the color of their skin. Is this sense of "right and wrong" that people have a product of education, or a mechanism of survival, or does there really exist "right" and "wrong"? Is there anything wrong with despoil, murder, child abuse? If so, why? Where do these objective moral laws come from, if not from God? How can there be a moral law without a moral lawgiver? If men are the lawgivers, then which men are the ones to decide what is right? On what basis can the rightness or wrongness of an action be determined?
Materialists would like to believe that the whole activity of the Universe can be described by certain mechanistic laws. If these laws really do describe and predict everything that happens and will happen - then obviously freedom of choice is an illusion - because everything happening in our brain is simply the result of mechanistic cause and effect processes. If this is true then nothing is right and nothing is wrong. Those things are just arbitrary categories. Even our talking about such things is just an outcome of the laws of physics.
rubbish as usual. . . . Right and wrong are totally subjective and differ greatly from society to society. So stop yarning dust.
Men are the lawgivers and laws do NOT come from any God. A child born into a society where murder, r.a.pe and torture is the norm will grow up a murderer and feel no wrong killing people. If you are born into a society where twins are killed, you will have no problems killing twins. This proves we are not born with any concept of right and wrong. Try again abeg.
Pastor AIO: Is Phillips 0907 really Deepsight in disguise, just playing games with us.
May Adumabo forbid! The Philip fellow is just a copy and paste goon who has NO understanding of the stuffs he lifts from google then runs off when asked to defend them claiming "I cannot be pushed around by atheists". That is not deepsight.
philip0906: says youu r now speaking 4 me?feeling God ain't in my head broda,if u haven't felt God,I have personally felt him right 4rm d age of 5,so don't teach me anything.Its u atheists dat feel whatever in your "heads" ;DI love dat bolded part.It goes 2 show how "confused" u atheists can be.Go and read about all atheists,scientists,u'll get d drift.NO one has proved dat God does not exist. . .There r lots of archeological evidences on ground 2 show that those "men" were not writing stories. . .u doubt it?then I'll simply refer u 2 d other thread,or I could put 'em up 4 u here and even more since u love sending errands ;DU r wrong man. . .muslims,hindus believe in "spiritual matters" not 2 talk of Christians,so add up d population of all these and u r damn wrong.I wonder where u get your stats 4rm.From your "brain" I guess ;DDon't push me around man. . .I have simply told u what 2 do I have met your type b4. . .I googled something about atheists yesterday and I was refered 2 a site (cbs I guess) where a woman and her baby in d U.S had a miraculous "recovery" after being certified "dead". . .Now I'm telling u this,2 simply show u dat evidences abound,but if u want me 2 tell u d street number and flat number of d person billydkid was talking of,I won't be pushed around by "atheists",never. . .I have my own evidences and I have given u an example
This noisemaker again? You have met everybody's "type" before.indeed
When asked to provide evidence for your daft claims you RUN claiming "I wont be pushed around by atheists". What a joker.
Bring FACTS to support your claims and stop ranting and running! Why is that so hard and painful for you??
tatiana009: @ tpiah, yes am talking about premature babies. As for people sitting down to count months, its not a fact of life its a fact of joblessness.
sorry o, but not all of us are retards so dont judge us by ur low standards.
For example, it doesnt take smart people like us more than 2 secs to calculate that the world cup ended almost 2 months ago.