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mjbaba:
BREAKING NEWS!!! a friend of mine who is a jouranalist with one of thenorthern newspapers just called me from maiduguri.
He was arrested in the course of covering the crisis, mistaken as a member of the sect. so he, alongside about nine others, were taken to the Force headquarters where he was released as soon as he was properly identified.

While he was at the police station, the BOKO HARAM leader, Yusuf Mohammed was brought in. Some of the Police men quickly suggested that he be transfered to Abuja while the Commander of the Military task force, the Major General(Dont know his name) and other policemen disagreed. their view was that it would prolong things and start a series of court cases and "stories" that could end up in the guy being freed. So they decided on Jungle justice- to settle it out of court and for ever. The guy was brought outside the PoliceHeadquarters where he spoke in Hausa language that he knew he had done wrong and he wanted people to pray for him. his pleas fell on deaf ears as he was placed by a wall and repeatedly fired at by soldiers and policemen.

Thats it.

Which rubbish newspaper does your friend work for. . . .Boko Haram News?

Look at all these drunkards clamouring for religious parties aka islamist parties. . . . They want another self-styled Taliban or Hamas in nigeria. . . .*hisses*

Brother your demons are the simple ones. Believe me i've cast out lucifer himself from one homosexual guy like that. . . .

Anyway just chant "leave me demon" "leave me demon" While shaving your pubic hair. . .they are going to fly out like edo girls running for italy. . .
Goodluck

Everybody has their own remix of the original fairy tale compiled by the catholic church.
Check my signature. . . It's culled from my own version (which is the only true one)

Bullshite!

Tsiya:
@Nex

The Tsiya u are talking about is not the hausa TSIYA.

Well it is just another conspiracy theory.

So its a baseless conspiracy theory and you're here presenting it like it's absolute and verified truth. . .

Anyway tell yourself whatever so you can at least have a good night sleep. . .

Once upon a time. . . .

The story looks fishy to me abeg.
How can a private company not pay salary for 4 months?
A the text message is just bloody ridiculous!
What kind of name is "saharareporters" anyway.

Never believe what you read in the nigerian press with their chewing gum reporters.

Are you okay man?

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=303350.msg4279995#msg4279995 date=1249072156]your disapproval of Christianity doesnt mean you should throw away your common sense, for crying out loud.

Are you planning on becoming a father someday and is it your 7 year old son who will be telling you what to do? When you see the consequences, explain your philosophy to the judge oh.

There's a reason for the term "legally adult".[/quote]What the hell are you blabbing about?
Horus tried to say when it's about RELIGION the child should be allowed to make his choice. . . .you don't force a kid to believe santa clause or the easter bunny for f.cks sake!

God is a figment of the imagination.
Spend your time living your life rather than bothering how to please some cock and bull entity.

You're late!

I always knew ancelloti was shite!
How can he be romancing pirlo for 21million?
It'd be better if we sign nicklas bendtner with that amount. . . .damn!

Story story

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=303350.msg4279224#msg4279224 date=1249062477]this is what I call common sense judgement.

The father should also not have taught his son how to drive a car. He's too young for that.[/quote]i bet you've never heard of GTA and car racing games.
Nobody teaches 7 year old kids to drive

noetic2:
I believe thats why ur opinion is uninformed,  . . . .

Nope. It just exposes your laxity when it comes issues at hand. . . .

noetic2:
will u stop embarrassing urself?

a. what does revelation mean?

b. what does a proof mean? how do u measure the credibility of an evidence?

c. what does it mean to exist? whats the test for existence?

I believe thats why they invented a dictionary. Use it.

noetic2:
by something he meant. . . .created objects of a subject. thats not what u meant.

u assumed that God is also subjected to creation, by actually calling him a creation. . . .so who EXACTLY created God? is that too hard to answer?

God is simply a figment of the imagination.
Proof?. . . .the shy bloke has never revealed himself neither has he been proven to exist by whosoever!

It's not you alone. . .it has to do with the satellite signal . Hopefully it'll pass

Paps1:
Hello guys the thing dis morning i saw my etv on pas 7/10 scrambled, dont know if is only my own but can someone help me here,am using 60cm dis.may be like to update.am using[b] strong SRT 4663x[/b]

Where did you get this decoder?
How much is it sold in nigeria?

What is sad JJYOU?

Blah blah blah

JIL:
Tudor, no offense meant but you shall weep the more if you die in your current mindset. Eventually everyone will know whether God does really exists or not. Is just a matter of time Tudor, you will get there, notwitstanding what you spew on Nairaland or anywhere else for that matter. I hope you are looking forward to that day?

What day?
Over 2000 years and we're still waiting for the dead carpenter to return through the clouds. . . .he can crash between pluto and neptune for all i care!

noetic2:
1. u made the false assertion that everything must have a creator. . . .so tell us who created God.

2. will u stop embarrasing urself? is the universe invivible?
The universe we see, could not have been an accident. . .simple.

This is simply quack!
I don't know who your god is or whatever.
The assertion that everything must have a creator came from your christian brother

OLAADEGBU:
Can something create itself?  Can nothing create something? [/b] The answer to these is an absolute No. We all know that[b] something cannot create itself and nothing can't create something.  From Latin we have the phrase "ex nihilo, nihil fit" meaning "from nothing, nothing comes."  It also violates the law of cause and effect, that says for every effect there must be a cause.  The effect can't be greater than the cause and nothing cannot be greater than something.

STOP LYING FOR JESUS!

This is very daft to say the least!

debosky:
This isn't hypocritical - it is simply based on the belief that ALL creation came from a creator who was Himself not created, but an embodiment of the divine creative ability.

All creation must stop at some point at thedoorstep of the Great Creator.

By the same token, the Universe is too organised/structured to be non-created, that is our belief. The only thing more wonderful or awe-inspiring is the creator Himself.

Basically you're admitting your stance has no BASIS and no PROOF. Right?

OLAADEGBU:
Muslims and other religions are not as foolish as the atheists who don't believe in the existence of God, the Creator.  The only difference is that they do not have a personal relationship or revelational knowledge of the triune God.  Knowing about Queen Elizabeth through what you might have read about her cannot be compared to the intimate knowledge that her husband or children have about her.

In essence you've declared yourself a child of the true god and have personal knowledge of him. . . . This same shite-headed declaration is made by all religions and you've said NOTHING to prove your's is the true faith.
Your claim is just as air-headed and fake as theirs.

God is a Self Eternal Being.  He has no beginning and He has no end.  That's what the Bible teaches.  I know that you don't believe it which makes you an unbeliever but we can deduce the answer to this with the Bible, God's Word and with the creation, God's World.

The Creator God gave us two sources of informaton/knowledge which are: His Word, which clearly teaches that God is the Creator of all things and His creation, which verifies that there had to be a Creator.  We can use them both.

What a joke!
Did any god ever tell you he created the world?
Basically your source is the fictional writings of desert tribesmen. . .ha ha
Come back when you've got something SENSIBLE and "un-stupid"

There are three possibilities from where the universe came from: 1). the universe created itself; 2). the universe has always existed, and 3). the universe was created.

1. The universe created itself:  Can something create itself?  Can nothing create something?  The answer to these is an absolute No. We all know that[b] something cannot create itself and nothing can't create something.  From Latin we have the phrase "ex nihilo, nihil fit" meaning "from nothing, nothing comes."  It also violates the law of cause and effect, that says for every effect there must be a cause.  The effect can't be greater than the cause and nothing cannot be greater than something.  Therefore, based on the laws of science and logic, the universe couldn't have created itself.  That's your theory eliminated right there, gone up in smoke.

Yet you drunkards claim god was uncreated.
This is embarassing!

2. The univese has always existed:  Lets go to the 2nd law of thermodynamics that basically teaches that "the whole universe is losing usable energy for doing usable work."  This means that the usable energy in this universe is wearing down.  The universe as a whole is losing energy.  In other words, molecules as a whole are slowing down.

To be continued.

All these theories of thermodynamics you quoted which was written in the bible?
If science and common sense are revealing the laws of the universe, it's only a matter of time before they educate you on its origin. Sit tight.

noetic2:
This is ignorant.

ur question/statement implies that God is a creation. . .if he is. . .u tell us . . .who created Him?

This is ignorant.

You can confidently claim god wasn't created but somehow presuppose that the universe must be created. How hypocritical!

OLAADEGBU:
Its knowing about the existence of God and knowing Him intimately.  Having exhausted the knowledge of the existence of God

You've exhausted NOTHING. Rather making the same baseless claims that every religion and their god attributes to themselve.

let us discuss about the intimate knowledge of God, that is, if you want to get something from Him or if you want to develop a relationship with Him.

"But without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him" -- Hebrews 11:6

Try to establish any sort of friendship without faith.  Walk up to a lady and introduce yourself.  When she tells you her name, say, "I don't believe you," Watch her reaction.  When she tells you where she works, say that you don't believe that either.  Carry on like that for a while, and before long you may be nursing a black eye from dirty slaps in rapid successions.  Your lack of faith in her is a strong insinuation that she is a liar.

If she a mere mortal, feels insulted by your lack of faith in her word, how much more do you and your bedfellows, insult the Almighty God by refusing to believe His Word.  In doing so, you are saying that God isn't worth trusting and that He is a liar and a deceiver.  The Bible says, "He that believes not God has made Him a liar" (1 John 5:10).  It also says, "Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you and evil heart of unbelief . . ." (Heb.3:12).  The command of the Scriptures is, "Have faith in God" (Mark 11:22).  If a meaningful human relationship cannot be established without faith, what sort of relationship could we expect to have with God, if by our unbelief we continue to call Him a liar? 

It smirks of shameful desperation that you're trying to equate religion with "toasting" a chick.
Here in the real world relationships are based on TRUST not FAITH. Trust which comes from proving yourself trustworthy and true .keep a relationship going needs you to keep proving yourself a true friend.
When has your god ever proven himself?

This question is an oxymoron.  It's like trying to describe to a person born blind how colours look like or trying to describe the aroma of coffee.  However, for the benefit of others I will endeavour to give an answer later, as time permits.

But saying there must be a creator for the universe isn't an oxymoron, right?
How convinient!
Pls give us your answers abeg.

OLAADEGBU:
Its knowing about the existence of God and knowing Him intimately.  Having exhausted the knowledge of the existence of God

You've exhausted NOTHING. Rather making the same baseless claims that every religion and their god attributes to themselve.

let us discuss about the intimate knowledge of God, that is, if you want to get something from Him or if you want to develop a relationship with Him.

"But without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him" -- Hebrews 11:6

Try to establish any sort of friendship without faith.  Walk up to a lady and introduce yourself.  When she tells you her name, say, "I don't believe you," Watch her reaction.  When she tells you where she works, say that you don't believe that either.  Carry on like that for a while, and before long you may be nursing a black eye from dirty slaps in rapid successions.  Your lack of faith in her is a strong insinuation that she is a liar.

If she a mere mortal, feels insulted by your lack of faith in her word, how much more do you and your bedfellows, insult the Almighty God by refusing to believe His Word.  In doing so, you are saying that God isn't worth trusting and that He is a liar and a deceiver.  The Bible says, "He that believes not God has made Him a liar" (1 John 5:10).  It also says, "Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you and evil heart of unbelief . . ." (Heb.3:12).  The command of the Scriptures is, "Have faith in God" (Mark 11:22).  If a meaningful human relationship cannot be established without faith, what sort of relationship could we expect to have with God, if by our unbelief we continue to call Him a liar? 

It smirks of shameful desperation that you're trying to equate religion with "toasting" a chick.
Here in the real world relationships are based on TRUST not FAITH. Trust which comes from proving yourself trustworthy and true .keep a relationship going needs you to keep proving yourself a true friend.
When has your god ever proven himself?

This question is an oxymoron.  It's like trying to describe to a person born blind how colours look like or trying to describe the aroma of coffee.  However, for the benefit of others I will endeavour to give an answer later, as time permits.

But saying there must be a creator for the universe isn't an oxymoron, right?
How convinient!
Pls give us your answers abeg.

OLAADEGBU:
Its knowing about the existence of God and knowing Him intimately.  Having exhausted the knowledge of the existence of God

You've exhausted NOTHING. Rather making the same baseless claims that every religion and their god attributes to themselve.

let us discuss about the intimate knowledge of God, that is, if you want to get something from Him or if you want to develop a relationship with Him.

"But without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him" -- Hebrews 11:6

Try to establish any sort of friendship without faith.  Walk up to a lady and introduce yourself.  When she tells you her name, say, "I don't believe you," Watch her reaction.  When she tells you where she works, say that you don't believe that either.  Carry on like that for a while, and before long you may be nursing a black eye from dirty slaps in rapid successions.  Your lack of faith in her is a strong insinuation that she is a liar.

If she a mere mortal, feels insulted by your lack of faith in her word, how much more do you and your bedfellows, insult the Almighty God by refusing to believe His Word.  In doing so, you are saying that God isn't worth trusting and that He is a liar and a deceiver.  The Bible says, "He that believes not God has made Him a liar" (1 John 5:10).  It also says, "Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you and evil heart of unbelief . . ." (Heb.3:12).  The command of the Scriptures is, "Have faith in God" (Mark 11:22).  If a meaningful human relationship cannot be established without faith, what sort of relationship could we expect to have with God, if by our unbelief we continue to call Him a liar? 

It smirks of shameful desperation that you're trying to equate religion with "toasting" a chick.
Here in the real world relationships are based on TRUST not FAITH. Trust which comes from proving yourself trustworthy and true .keep a relationship going needs you to keep proving yourself a true friend.
When has your god ever proven himself?

This question is an oxymoron.  It's like trying to describe to a person born blind how colours look like or trying to describe the aroma of coffee.  However, for the benefit of others I will endeavour to give an answer later, as time permits.

But saying there must be a creator for the universe isn't an oxymoron, right?
How convinient!
Pls give us your answers abeg.

OLAADEGBU:
@ toneyb and your bedfellows,

This is why you guys have no excuse when you say that there is no God or no need for a God to create supernaturally. 

[b]When I look at a building, how do I know that there was a builder?  I can't see him, hear him, touch him, touch, taste or smell him.  Of course, the building is the evidence that there was a builder.  In fact, I couldn't want better evidence that there was a builder than to have the building in front of me.  I don't need faith to know that there was a builder.  All I need is eyes that can see and a brain that works.  Likewise, when I look at a painting, how can I know that there was a painter?  Again, the painting is the evidence positive that there was a painter.  I don't need faith to believe in a painter because I can see the clear evidence. 

The same principle applies with the existence of God.  When I look at creation, how can I know that there was a Creator?  I can't see Him, hear Him, touch Him, taste Him or smell Him.  How can I know that He exists?  Why, creation shows me that there is a Creator.  I couldn't want better evidence that a Creator exists than to have the creation in front of me.  I don't need faith to believe in a Creator, all I need is eyes that can see and a brain that works: [/b]

"For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal Power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse." -- Romans 1:20

If, however, I want the builder to do something for me, then I need to have faith in him.  The same applies to God:

"Without faith it is impossibe to please Him: for he that comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him." -- Hebrews 11:6

What's all these crap you've written?

One question: since every creation must have a creator, WHO or WHAT CREATED GOD?