theenchanter: the question now is.... . Why should it continue like that? . Why is it only SA with xenophobia when other african countries have african immigrants living and working there? . Why did their govt only condemn it and not find a lasting solution to it? .if they don't want foreigners, why can't they deport illegal ones?
first South Africans will attack any foreigner whether you are legal or illegal immigrant they don't care as long as you are not a South African
South Africa is the most developed and industrialized country in Africa so it attracts more immigrants compared to other African countries
most of us will be worried if there is an influx of foreigners in there cities or towns and most of those foreigners are willing to work for miniscule wages leading to unemployment among South Africans and some of those foreigners are criminals tell me now why won't the South Africans get frustrated and start attacking foreigners left and right
I don't know how the South African govt works but I know if it was committed to solve the xenophobic issue it could have done that decades ago but now xenophobic attacks is not their priority they will just condem it and issue apologies and life will go on
edon21: In a full scale war between Nigeria and South Africa, it's no doubt that nigeria is going to win. Population of 200 million against 60 million Little difference in hardware though hardware can be gotten in a matter of time but men can't Nigeria's got the best brains More African nations will side with Nigeria Ecowas is more powerful sadc Etc
samorobo: It's obvious you just want to talk because you have access to Uhuru Kenyatta free WiFi. ...The ethopians,Rwandans, Zambians, Zimbabweans, chinese are they also criminals but aren't they also victims
I never specialized Nigerians
I said foreigners meaning all nationalities in South Africa
theenchanter: Nigerian criminality in SA in just a drop in the ocean of crimes in SA, thats a flimsy excuse for xenophobia, crime in SA supersedes the crime in many african countries, including nigeria... that excuse doesnt hold water.
even if its about criminality of nigerians in SA, the SA LEA should do their job n deport every criminals... but that's not the case.... saffers complained of "job losses" to immigrants, mostly africans.
I don't see where it's recorded that anybody made an entitlement remark in this scenario, i guess ur brain lesion is at work. If they don't want foreigners, its up to their foreign affair ministry to do d needful instead of junkies maiming legitimate, innocent shopowners.
it comes to individual responsibility if foreigners love the lives or money that will be they choice to make South Africans will continue attacking killing fellow Africans no matter how people and govts condem it
so if foreigners are willing to risk their lives in South Africa they shouldn't complain when they are attacked
South African govt will do nothing about it they will just condem the xenophobic attacks and blame the criminals and life will go on and again next year xenophobic attacks will repeat again
theenchanter: i dont think u know whats happening in SA, u're just giving ur brain unneeded exercise.
What is happening is SA is borne out of inferiority complex created by oppression during apartheid, they have the feeling that foreigners are taking their jobs (menial ones) or competing with them, just as @MPSA said in one thread not quite long ago.
Even if foreigners are taking ur jobs, u dont go haywire destroying their shops, looting and killing them in some cases, it's either they're looking down on those jobs or they're just too lazy to do it.... if they were doing d jobs, foreigners wont take it in d first place, they actually created an avenue for foreigners to thrive in small scale businesses.
Their govt should just create a policy that'll enable them get prefential treatment on SMEs instead of the senseless xenophobic attack by the oafish locals.
believe me I know what is happening in South Africa
no need for your amateur brains
xenophobic attacks will continue to happen year in year out govts will condem it and nothing will be done about it you also forgot about Nigerian criminality in South Africa which is contributing South Africans to attack even the honest Nigerians
South Africans don't want foreigners in their country as simple as that foreigners should pack and go and stop this entitlement nonsense they will continue being killed every year
samorobo: The following should also beg the question
Why do Americans immigrate and live in UK Why do brits immigrate and live in the US why do chinese immigrate and live in the US and vice versa
Are all this country not also good and hardworking?
They are chinese conducting illegal businesses here in Nigeria and even scamming some nigerians who wants to get visas, should we take because of the few bad eggs to starting attacking legitimate chinese? Aren't they lebanese, chinese,Indians immigrants living here and taking our jobs, does that means their country is bad and they are trying to render us unemployed. . When have you ever heard that we have attacked this people. . It all boils down to one thing "SOUTH AFRICA WERE NEVER FREE AND THAT MENTALITY THAT FOREIGNERS COMING IN MIGHT TAKE OVER THEIR COUNTRY JUST AS THE WHITE MEN DID IS EXACTLY WHAT IS HAUNTING THEM"...Should anything go wrong today in south africa be it economic crisis, war,insecurity, disease outbreak trust me no africa country will ever want to help them , they would practically watch other africa countries turn their back on them even though they have the capability to help...NOBODY IS AN ISLAND
as I said before if the host does not want you leave to prevent stories that pain
Omoluabi16: A country is not like a jungle territory you mark off. What host? has there been any official pronouncements from the SA government that we should leave? I get the feeling there's more to it than this crime you all are latching on. Even before we began moving there, South Africa had a high crime + rape figure. Do you even understand how bilaterally relationships work to pack up and leave? Christ.
it is there country South Africans can do wherever they like
don't wait for South African govt to order you to leave just learn by the actions of the South Africans
slaughteringNG: I support the South Africans especially the one which burnt down that car company the guy was given several warnings that he is importing cars from Japan which is destroying the South African automobile market he does not sell South African make vehicles he goes and import used vehicles from Japan which is killing South African automobile Industries and killing South African jobs so he had to pay the ultimate price. You destroyed Nigeria by importation you want to go to another man's country and destroy the country by importation again. From this holy War South Africans and one of the most educated people in Africa
The south africa law enforcement agencies are sleeping in their jobs then
Omoluabi16: we say that not to spite them, but it is the truth. The excuse for drugs, prostitution and fake goods..yet you loot same shop with fake goods. Looting only reinforced the notion of laziness. As regards your last question, I'm sure you did basic economics. Every single individuals seeks opportunity and utilises it. If the hommies are not innovative enough, why can't foreigners step in? You say they don't pay tax, why don't they enforce it? Also, South African companies are here dominating our Satellite and telecommunications sector. Most Nigerians will use MTN 10 times over globacom. Chinese and indians here, did we go bananas on them? illegal immigrants.. tell me what country in the world does not have that problem?
I will be the first to tell you we mess up A LOT. Terrible reputation worldwide, carrying drugs up and down India, Malaysia e.t.c. Still, there are a lot of us who simply want to school, do small scale business and make our money in peace.But this Xenophobia has no justification whatsoever. No one deserves to be lynched for the sake of his or her nationality.This will trigger rape and other serious crimes. I don't live there, and will never go there.It doesn't appeal to me. I have always stated my preference for Ethiopia, Rwanda and Botswana.
Nigerians crime reputation is what is leading to this
You guys need to stop this trend or else no one will welcome you or tolerate you
If the host doesn't want you just pack up and leave
slaughteringNG: It is difficult to differentiate Nigerian criminals for non Nigerian criminals because the amount of Nigerian criminals is very high. Look at America where 75% of Nigerians have committed fraud. It is Ida South Africa sit and watch Nigerians destroy their country and destroy their future order take up arms and fight for their future just look at Europe and America in World War 1 and World War 2 they did not sit waiting for food to come from there every day to the law into their own hands to do the right thing. There is no xenophobia in South Africa it is just holy War vs criminals which want to destroy South Africa
I completely understand Most Nigerians can be irritating
But I believe south Africa and Botswana ( your country ) Have institutions and law enforcement agencies to deal with those who behave in funnily
Deportation and xenophobic attacks never works just jail them or worse let the police shoot then
Jonraid: I want a foreign one more than ever. I might as well seek Obaboon's advice on how he views Naijas chicks. Tiwa Savage kept sending me her 'noodles' in my DM, she earned a block from me!
I'm joking. All in all, both the South Africans and the Nigerians need to sit down. The machete fights would profit them nothing. The criminal Nigerians should be deported or made to face trial and not the other way round.
But then again, there is a problem in Nigeria. Didn't the FBI round up at least more than 80 Nigerians suspected to be engaging in cyber crime? Mind you that this was just a week ago!
Nigerians and their reputation to crime doesn't help things
So even the hardworking Nigerians and honest suffer the most
68816419: WTF, what does population has to do with dvelopment, Kano is larger and far more developved than Line Mandera , Samburu, Busia, Garissa,Marsabit, Wajir, Tana River, West Pokot ,Isiolo,Baringo County.Bomet County.,Bungoma County.,Elgeyo Marakwet County,Embu County,Garissa County,Homa Bay County......
Hahaha all those Kenyan counties you mentioned have 24/7 electricity
68816419: Kano State-Northern Nigeria - so many constructions,Underground tunnels,Bridges and road Infrastructures ongoing Kenyans should also show us videos of this counties Mandera , Samburu, Busia, Garissa,Marsabit, Wajir, Tana River, West Pokot ,Isiolo Ariel Views of Kano [flash=425,300] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLxpi28qoPc[/flash]
mtisTheQubit: You guys have like 3milions guys who are hiv/aids an ya yapping here...Most of the kids born with HIV in the entire world are found in Nigeria ..dude give up already...
Anyway, this discussion about Naija vs Botswana doesn't make sense..just read this a for the last time shut up dude.Just find your mate to compare
Botswana is one of Africa success stories I wonder what he is always comparing about
Kazikazi: You are empty upstairs! I think that is due to massive starvation in Kenya. SADC isn't a club of starving fellows. Its an economic and security bloc.Tanzania is the leader of SADC.we are one of the founding members.
the economy of South Africa is almost the same as the whole of SADC countries combined
Tanzania is the leader of SADC while South Africa is about to auction your airbus and you govt is busy issuing empty threats
South African is busy kicking your butts in South Africa and your busy complaining online who is the boss now