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LukasPodolski:
shifting the goal post again, shamelessly fool.

so it's no longer, Owerri, Enugu, Asaba, Uyo, it's now PH and Onitsha.

lmao, the joke is on you now.

Onitsha more urbanized than Ibadan, Kano and Kaduna? ridiculous.

even I would rate Ilorin more.

Why am I arguing with someone who has never left his brown roof house

Visit Port Harcourt and Onitsha for once,and you would be ashamed of your region, you would also thank God for giving you lots Lagos, if not you guys would be laughing stocks.

LukasPodolski:
Making assertions without something to back it up, Lmao.

show me where your Attachee by force Lower Niger was said to have the highest per capita income, I want to see.

in addition, here is the current NBS poverty index of Nigerian states, SW has the least, followed by SS while you SE came the distance third.
https://www.nairaland.com/5835109/sokoto-poorest-state-nigeria-nbs

stop attaching yourself to SS, lower Niger ko, upper Niger ni

You obviously know nothing!!!
My signature says Proudly Ikwerre, which state can you find Ikwerre?.. I'm sure you don't know!

LukasPodolski:
can you see that you don't have sense, firstly you said Uyo, Asaba, Enugu, Owerri are more urbanized than Ibadan but the link up there shows that Ibadan is the third on the list.

secondly that ranking is trash, A ranking that put Onitsha above Cape Town is ridiculous lmao, Onitsha ko, Onitsha ni

why are trio of Owerri, Enugu and Asaba you earlier said are more urbanized than Ibadan missing on the list?

lmao, the joke is on you.

a ranking that put Onitsha above, Cape Town, Ibadan PH, Kano and other mega African cities belongs to the waste bin

That's your business!!!
PH and Onitsha are more urbanized than all Cities in the West apart from Lagos, if it's so painful, go and hug transformer!!

LukasPodolski:
now you're going offpoint, it's clear you're loosing the argument.
even in physics and Mechanics, a machine cannot be 100% efficient.

LMAO You're very intelligent!!! Teach me!!

LukasPodolski:
it's sad that the explanation I made up there didn't change your reasoning.

Yes, there are Lower class Yorubas living in Lagos, the same way you see Middle class upper class.

The same way in United States you would see citizens living in tents, homeless people, Lower class people that Nigerian immigrants are doing better than.

most Nigerians living in USA are doing better than SOME Americans because:

America attract the best of Nigerians, meaning it's only middle class/upper class NIGERIANS that are opportuned to Travel to USA, hence Americans are more visible.
while Nigerians at home are living in poverty, that's the same way SS and SE are living in abject poverty at home.

this is not rocket science, the Yorubas in Lagos are more visible because it's their land.

what is wrong with being an artisan like carpenter, Mechanics, Tailors, do you know that Canada is looking for unskilled workers like Mechanics, chef, drivers?

at least being a mechanic is better than Selling gala and doing Prostitution.

the way some people think sef.


Yorubas have the least poverty index in Nigeria according to various research bodies including NBS, Oxford Nnppn.

How can Yoruba have the least poverty index when the Lower Niger has the highest per capita income
Are you an economist at all

Gracchus:
Of course your bloody lower Niger is not Yorubaland. Yorubas have nothing to do with you lots whether culturally, historically, or politically. And that's why we mind our business and don't give a ratass about the boring politics of your tiny region. Unlike you lots who can't seem to stop meddling in our politics, I can see you have started exempting Oyo state from your madness, mind you Oyo state is fullYoruba a state and aligns with Yoruba course whenever it matters.
Face your region with its politics and let's do ours too we are not you, you are not us, we are not your brothers, we are not related to you lots. Fuccking Muppets!!

Lol
Mind you the lower Niger is bigger than Yoruba land.
Who wants to be brothers with the poorest people in the South!!!
Who wants to be brothers with backstabbers and Cowards!!!
Who wants to be brothers with the tribe that has the highest number of unemployed youths and agberos!!!
Koshi jare!!
We should be the one staying clear from pests like you,not the other way round!!!

LukasPodolski:
students in SW states pays school fees enough of these propaganda.

we have the best schools here, proof me wrong.

Nonetheless, Free Education isn't bad, even education is free in most Western countries like Germany, Sweden Finland e.t.c for citizens only.

education isn't free in SW quit lying.

Western Schools are really trying���...They really thought you well,little wonder you don't know when to use "Prove" and "Proof".

Gracchus:
Lmao. Why can't you pay such a huge IGR in your regions then? FYI, 80% of Lagos IGR comes from the formal economy, that's the corporate sectors like banks, civil service, insurance companies etc. Markets contribute less than a year 20%to Lagos IGR.

The formal economy isn't dominated by Yorubas either!

LukasPodolski:
idiot, see as he listed his tiny states as the most urbanized cities in Nigeria, why are you guys so daft, must everything be about you?

you cannot compare Ibadan, Kano and Kaduna with those shitholes you listed above except PH.

Ibadan, Kano and Kaduna with Asaba, Uyo, Owerri what's wrong with your brain?

Check this out olodo https://www.nairaland.com/6106800/lagos-onitsha-most-urbanized-areas

You know nothing,but you claim to be sophisticated!!
Read and travel wide and stop thinking that the West is developed, remove Lagos from the West and you would discover that the West is dead and dry!

LukasPodolski:
Onitsha has more population density than Ibadan I know that, that's because Onitsha is a very tiny place?

but in terms of urbanization, Ibadan is more urbanized than. Onitsha.

show where where it's stated that Onitsha, Uyo Asaba, Imo e.t.c are more urbanized than Ibadan, if you can't then Ogun will kill you, IJN amen.

Look at it here https://www.nairaland.com/6106800/lagos-onitsha-most-urbanized-areas

When you decide to argue without travelling to a place or reading you would continue to sound daft!

LukasPodolski:
you're not even ashamed to say this nonsense.

imagine saying I helped my neighbor to build his duplex why I lives in A face me I face you house with Confidence?

I personally, I would ashamed to say such.

SW states are generating huge Igr compared to yours, infact 2x more than your region but you are proud to say it's you that contributed the biggest part... this is stupidity.

how can your states be Doing amazingly poor in igr but you're so proud to say that you're the one that contributed to it.

just like Africans saying they won the 2018 world cup because our brothers whom grew up in France were many in the squad?

how

That your example above is exactly the story of a typical Yoruba man!,he builds mansions for people as a carpenter in highbrow areas but ends up living in Ajegunle

Let Buhari open Onne Deep Seaport and Ibom Deep Sea Port and see our region beat your region in all ramification.

LukasPodolski:
SW is the most urbanized Region in Nigeria, you honestly cannot compare Lagos-Ogun-Oyo axis with any trio in Nigeria.

Not some shithole Anambra-Enugu-imo nor Rivers-Akwa-ibom-Delta.

compare this Trio
Lagos-Ogun-OYo
anambra-Enugu-Imo
Rivers-akwaibom-Delta

and you would see that it's a blasphemy to say any other region is more urbanized than SW.

it's wrong to attach SS/SE in this context because that's 11 fvckin states against 6.

SS is bigger than SW in landmass, further attaching SE to it is cheap.

After Lagos, Abuja, PH, Ibadan is the next when it's comes to Development, you can't compare the the highbrow Ibadan with highbrow of SE/SS states except PH. it's stupidity when you say Enugu, Owerri Uyo,, Asaba,Onitsha are more developed than Ibadan. ridiculous.

compare the cities in SE/SS separately with Lagos, Ibadan, Abeokuta, Akure, Osogbo and Ado Ekiti.

your reasoning is shallow.

Highbrow Ibadan Indeed!!
You guys never cease to amaze me!!!
It's now evident that Lagos is the only developed city in the West!

LukasPodolski:
SW is the most urbanized Region in Nigeria, you honestly cannot compare Lagos-Ogun-Oyo axis with any trio in Nigeria.

Not some shithole Anambra-Enugu-imo nor Rivers-Akwa-ibom-Delta.

compare this Trio
Lagos-Ogun-OYo
anambra-Enugu-Imo
Rivers-akwaibom-Delta

and you would see that it's a blasphemy to say any other region is more urbanized than SW.

it's wrong to attach SS/SE in this context because that's 11 fvckin states against 6.

SS is bigger than SW in landmass, further attaching SE to it is cheap.

After Lagos, Abuja, PH, Ibadan is the next when it's comes to Development, you can't compare the the highbrow Ibadan with highbrow of SE/SS states except PH. it's stupidity when you say Enugu, Owerri Uyo,, Asaba,Onitsha are more developed than Ibadan. ridiculous.

compare the cities in SE/SS separately with Lagos, Ibadan, Abeokuta, Akure, Osogbo and Ado Ekiti.

your reasoning is shallow.

For your information,Onitsha is the second most urbanized city after Lagos,Abuja Port Harcourt,Uyo,Asaba,Enugu and Owerri follow suite.
Also, Port Harcourt-Aba industrial Zone is the second most industrialized zone in Nigeria after Lagos-Agbara Industrial Zone.

Ibadan is not even near to any city in the lower Niger apart from having the highest concentration of brown roofs!

LukasPodolski:
Lagos is a Yorubaland, it's understandable that you would see Middle class, upper class and lower class and some people living in poverty.

who are the ones going to public schools in Ebonyi, Enugu, Imo, Anambra, Akwa ibom and other SE /SS states ? ain't they the indigenes?

are the people living in poverty in SW and SE Yorubas?

UNILAG, LASU and other Lagos State institutions are dominated by Yorubas.

we have the best schools in Nigeria established by our sons and daughters, if there is any region that has better schools than SW tell me.

this same thread was created by you, who are the ones living in this communities? tell me.
https://www.nairaland.com/5970346/dilapidated-state-most-villages-akwa

The same way Nigerians living in Canada are doing better than a huge percentage of Native Canadians is the same way Lagos has few non indeginous people doing better than Few indigenes.

Canada attract the best of Nigerians, Lagos attract the best of other regions.
the Nigerians living in Canada are doing better than more than 10% of Canadians, but not Doing better than Canadians at large, the same way Non indeginous people in Lagos are doing better than at least 15% of Yoruba people who are the native.

this is not rocket science, Since Lagos is a Yoruba land, you would see people from different social class, The same way in Canada you would see people from different social class, people living in tents, woods, streets.

The Yorubas have the least poverty index in Nigeria.

The Public Schools in the lower Niger pay little fees but public schools in the West don't pay.

The Yorubas have the highest poverty index in the South.

LukasPodolski:
why do people travel? because of opportunities right?

what are the opportunities available in SE and to some extent SS? perhaps minimal.

SW houses almost everything in Nigeria.

from Entertainment, if you want to venture into Entertainment you must come to SW before you can succeed.

Commerce, SW houses more than 50% of commerce and industries in Nigeria.

Education, we have the best schools in Nigeria.

Industries, There are more industries in SW than other region.

just name it, what Other region have more than SW, absolutely nothing.

now tell me why an average Yoruba man should travel to SE and SS, to do what?

you're annoying man.

Point of correction, SS and SE has more Industries than the West!
West doesn't have all those stuffs you mentioned,rather it's Lagos.
Without Lagos,the West isn't even up to the worst state in the Lower Niger!!!
You're annoying man!

victorDanladi:
Let him get out of government first.

Name one Igbo,not in government


then,NAME ONE SOUTHEAST GOVERNOR.

Don't mention woke

cowards

PDP SLAVES

ATIKU HAUSA FULANI MUSLIM SLAVES

Mind you Wike isn't Igbo, he is Ikwerre!
And point of correction, Yorubas are known all over Nigeria as cowards, so nothing can change it!!!

Rotimi47:
Not true as Yoruba are widely spread all over Nigeria.

You will find them in major Oil Companies and Service Companies in the South South eg. Shell, Chevron, Agip,Total, Deltatek etc

Even the present Governor of Oyo State have a big Oil Servicing Company in Rivers State.

There are other Yoruba owned businesses all over the place from small to medium and large businesses.

Because they don't make noise about them don't mean they are not physically present.

One can even hear them speak their dialect openly but you can only know if you understand it or is told that they are Yoruba.

It's like one speaking To language near you; how would you know he is from benue or a Tiv if you don't understand what he is saying.

Let me say that the notion that Yorubas only reside in the South West is wrong as no major tribe or any other tribe would restrict her people to one particular geographical location.

Just check your facts as even NYSC postings are enough to show that this notion that's passed around is not true.

Not to forget, Yorubas are well travelled within and outside Nigeria because na money every body dey find no tribe person go chop.

Stop deceiving yourself my brother, I have lived in the West, I have been to the East and I am living in Port Harcourt, Yorubas live mostly in the West, you hardly see Yorubas in this part of the country, all those companies you mentioned that are located here hardly have Yoruba workers,they are mostly dominated by Hausas,few Igbos and a very minute Yoruba population.

I have studied the Yorubas,Hausas and Igbos, and I'll tell you that Igbos are more travelled than Yorubas.

victorDanladi:
No Igbo man has ever challenged Buhari like fayose and FFK.


Fayose was the only voice of PDP when PDP went to hiding following its defeat in 2015.He kept PDP alive.

not everyone has memory loss like you

Where is Fayose now??
Wike is brave and the only one that attacked Buhari and is still attacking Buhari

Seerade029:
You've never been to ogun state Abeq
You only know Lagos Not ogun.

You said they deny you of seaports.
Since 1960 point out any Yoruba that was in government. And include the year.

And for 2nd Niger Bridge
https://www.nairaland.com/5483831/second-niger-bridge-suffer-setback/1

Ernest Shonekan(Interim Government 1998)
Olusegun Obasanjo (1999-2007)

And for your information, I have been to all the states in the West.
I lived in Festac Town,Ikeja and Victoria Island for some time while in Lagos.
I have been to Idiroko,Agbara,Abeokuta and Ijebu Ode in Ogun.
I have gone to Bodija and Ogbomoso in Oyo during holiday to visit my coursemate.
I have gone to Okitipupa,Akure,Arogbo in Oyo.
I have been to Omu-Aran in Kwara.
I have been to Ile-Ife and Oshogbo in Osun State.
I have practically toured Yorubaland,and I can tell you that if only our seaports can be opened, you guys would not smell our backs.

Seerade029:
Lol, But Lagos is not all SW.
Even get Ogun and Ibadan got overflow from Lagos.
Why do you think Ogun is the most industrialised state in Nigeria?

Just create a business free environment and see what will happen.

There were ports in Rivers and Delta before it was stopped at that time.
Do you know what make then stop?
It is because of the exhortation by the people, pirates, Cultism etc.

If you're conversant in 2nd Niger Bridge saga, you'll notice that indigenes of some villages in Anambra demand for compensation or whatever and they had to pause the bridge for a while.
Which can never happen in the west.

And BTW, it's not that we've not been to the east, stop portraying it like a white clothes.

All you said we're wrong!!!
Ogun isn't the most industrialized state in Nigeria,Lagos is!
Rivers is more industrialized than Ogun!!
The sea ports in our region were closed so as to deny us of developing our lands,same thing they are doing to our oil.
Nobody asked for fee during construction of 2nd Niger Bridge, it has always being a hallucination.

Seerade029:
That solves it, I'm glad you mentioned it.


You said rulral to urban migration. And for greener pastures.

Good then why are you accusing us to leave our region (greener pastures, urban) to rurals

South South and South East has Cities like Port Harcourt,Calabar,Uyo,Owerri,Onitsha,Asaba,Enugu,e.t.c that are better than most South West cities(apart from Lagos), but the fact is that most people here have this thought that Lagos is a money making arena and therefore leave here for Lagos .

Oracleforce:
Another sons of bitterness sighted....oni kuure...
With or with southeast and south-south, Lagos will develop....
Tell your nyamiri leaders to create another lagos in your region...and stop crying on social media...
A lot of your people left the dungeon of poverty and degradation in villages and towns to make ends meet here in Lagos....nobody force your lineage and your family to relocate to lagos....you came to lagos with your dirty bags and nylons to hustle and you have been doing creditable well in lagos owing to the fact that the environment was created for all dick, tom and harry to survive....now, you are here and instead of you and your family and lineage to keep appreciating your host community and state, you started churning out rubbish.....oo
Eni kuure

Where did I insult you in my post
Who is bitter now
I thought Yorubas claim to be the most sophisticated people in Nigeria yet most of them behave like barbarians!

Lagos was made for all Dick and Tom to survive,yet most Yorubas I have seen in Lagos are mere poor Carpenters or Mechanic.
The fact remains that my brothers there created an enabling environment for their business to thrive not you guys.

Most slums in Lagos are Yoruba areas,think of Ajegunle,Mushin,Shomolu,e.t.c.

Even most public schools in Lagos are dominated by Yoruba Children!!

The poverty rate of the Yorubas is too high!!!

Accept the fact that we created an enabling environment for ourselves and not Plumbers and Carpenters as you said!!

Seerade029:
If Majority of SW IGR is controlled by SE and SS.
What about the igR of SE? At least nah only Igbos full there.
Your brain is leaking sir.

If you're a good student of Economics, you would know what's happening to us in the Lower Niger!
It's called Rural- Urban Migration, the young able bodied men have left the Lower Niger in search for greener pastures to the West and abroad, so you can't expect their IGR to be more.
Unlike the West that hardly live in another part of the country, in Port Harcourt, you hardly see Yorubas, so when able bodied young SS and SE people move to the West, and come together with the West, the IGR of the West must be more!
The day all of them would decide to return back, I can bet you that the West wouldn't smell our backs, let FG complete the construction of Ibom Deep Sea Port, Onne Seaport and other Sea Ports in our region, and you would hardly see any of us in your lands.

Seerade029:
If Majority of SW IGR is controlled by SE and SS.
What about the igR of SE? At least nah only Igbos full there.
Your brain is leaking sir.

That's the fact!!
Take it or leave it!!
The IGR in Lagos is mostly from SS and SE dominated markets.

Greatomotoy:
yet Sw IGR is bigger than SE and SS

Bro, our politicians and their party structure is not worth our Argument, we are suppose to fight them and not throw tantrums at each other

This is what I was waiting for!!

How does IGR determine the development of a state when the IGR is being devoured by godfather's?. Also 50% of SW IGR is contributed by the people of SS and SE. During my stay in Lagos, most influential parts of the state were dominated by the people of SE and SS. Popular markets like Idumota,Trade Fair,Alaba International,Computer Village,Aspanda,e.t.c where majority of Lagos IGR is generated are dominated by people of SS and SE. If only Nnamdi Azikiwe had allowed the citing of Capital in Calabar and not Lagos, y'all would have been in our lands, because if not that Lagos was made the capital, the SW would have been dead.

Also for your info, the SS and SE has more industrial concentration and mineral resources than the West,hence the big GDP we get, if you remove Lagos GDP from the West, SS and SE has more GDP than the West!

Back to politics, the type of godfatherism happening in the West can't happen in the SS or SE. We can't allow it happen, because we can't be controlled by a man!

Seerade029:
Can you tell me the godfather in Ondo state?

Tinubu is the godfather of all state in the West apart from Oyo.

TechyMm0:
Kikikikiki hahahaha

Abia State is controlled by Orji Family , it was once controlled by Virgina woman who was the mother of Kalu

Delta is Ibori's play ground


.

You know nothing about politics in the Lower Niger

Abia has never been controlled by anyone, two times, Orji and Kalu were stoned by marketers in Aba for trying to impose their candidates on the people.
In the last election, Kalu brought up Uche Ogah as his candidate, and Abians voted against him.

In Delta, Ibori has no say, rather only the people have, any day Ibori or Uduaghan decides to play godfather, the people of Delta from Patani to Warri to Asaba would come out en masse to vote against him.

We ain't Cowards like you guys
We are not afraid to fight against dominance by one man!!!
We have been known for battles right from time!!

TheWalkingMind:
Funny thing is your lowlife has never been to Ondo State before. If you have you'll know through history, Ondo don't play to Godfatherism.

I pity people like you!!

For your information, I have been to Akure,Okitipupa and Arogbo a lot of times.

Aside that, there is no state in the West that doesn't have godfathers apart from Oyo state.

LukasPodolski:
you're daft man, Ondo people together with Ekiti are the most educated set of people in this country, that's why they've produced the best lawyers in Nigeria.

Ondo and Ekiti are the most liberal people in this country.

there is nothing obtainable in Edo that isn't in Ondo. if there is any tell me.

You mean Ondo people are cowards for deciding who will lead them for the next 4 years?

what is wrong with your brain man? your reasoning stinks.

Ondo and Ekiti the most educated in Nigeria

Some of you never cease to amaze me!!

I hope you know what you mean by educated? Producing the most lawyers doesn't make them the most educated in the West talkless of the entire Nigeria.

When it comes to most educated states in Nigeria, I'll go for Delta,Rivers,Abia,Imo before Ondo and Ekiti.

[quote author=wwwihy post=94823224]Ondo is not Edo
Ondo is not Rivers
Ondo is not Oyo
Ondo is not Abia
South West is not South East
South West is not South South[/quote]I don't think you're ok, how can you be comparing Rivers with your dead state.

Which Yoruba man or Governor has ever challenged Buhari like Wike did?

How many Yorubas have the balls to be outspoken to a government so wicked as Buhari?

If you don't want to enter what you didn't bargain for, just remove Rivers from that list!!

[quote author=wwwihy post=94823224]Ondo is not Edo
Ondo is not Rivers
Ondo is not Oyo
Ondo is not Abia
South West is not South East
South West is not South South[/quote]Sumarrily, Ondo and South West have the most unsophisticated people in the South. They are the Somalia of the South.

TechyMm0:



We reject the Tax Collectors Party in Southwest

Ondo no be Abia State

Thank you!!!


..

You should be ashamed of your state and your region in general, when the South South and South East are trying to scrap out godfatherism, your state is trying to retain Tinubu and other of your stupid godfather's in the West.
For your info, no state in the South South or South East is static in politics like your region, we don't uplift godfathers and we are not afraid like you guys to attack godfather's with our votes


Lower Niger no be Yorubaland!!!
We are not Afraid of anything!!
We ain't Cowards!!!
We ain't Conservative!!!!