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Those guys will nt allow people to worship God in peace. Bringing legalism to the church

Ok i see

Alfa Seltzer: don't go to church.

why should i not?

Joagbaje: Tithes can be paid from anything . Provided the church can use them. Not everything was accepted as tithe in the bible days. Unclean plants and unclean animals were not accepted . It's wise to use money since money represent your labour and it's a medium of exchange

but i can use farm product like garri.

Temismith: K.

what is ur take on this

woky: for ur mind u don creat thread dy wait for pple to coment..

the catholic are victims of this practice, as they usually bow to images like they do in shrine

Should people be allowed to wear what they like to church

tobechi74: Pastors reject it

reject for what

asco15: No. It doesn't consume dem in a physical sense but it consumes d evil spirit in dem and dat leads to dia deliverance.

and they die?

highyo: you can fall at any level. God is not a respecter of anyman. Even satan dont respect you, that's why the bible said, many will try to enter trough the gate but will not be able. Who are the many? believers of Christ
dont think because you are a general overseer you cant go to hell.
I've heard of a general overseer who has preached holyness for 30yrs but unable to enter because of anger, and a pastor that died in car accident and was taken to motuary for 3days but woke up, was unable to enter because he fail to forgive his wife after she slaped her, also a pastor that fail to help the poor in the church even when they come to him for help, he will only pray for them, he was unable to enter. All this reason were all confirmed in the bible, so think of it, a bishop can end up there

dnt u think u are getting obscessed with this hell issue. Is that the gospel christ call us to preach. Are u nt seeing almost everyone today trying to claim that they went to hell and heaven for sight seeing. Many people are just playing with God, i pity them. Even look at u acting like the caretaker of heaven and hell that u know those barred from entering heaven and are thrown into hell. We must be careful because the bible warns that things like this will happen. Nobody knows satan's scheme, so let us be alert and study the word of God thoroughly.

highyo: bible also testify to it, you decend when going to hell, but you ascend when going to heaven

stop those crap jor. Nobody knows the location of hell except God who made it.

highyo: bro hell is real, and without Jesus, you can go there. I remember posting a thread about some researchers that dug a hole of man miles that, they could not continue because of the heat, and crying of millions of people, that they even recorded the sound. That is even physical,
I love you bro, but if you fail to believe now, and you die and you saw it, it will be too late to come back to life
pray to God, perhaps he can show you the true way. If you believe there is one God, and he's God of Abraham, tell him you are confuse, and he should tell you the true way. I'm sure he will, but only when you are pure in heart
Jesus is the true way to salvation

so people now know the location of hell now? Amazing!
That place can be used for tourist attraction o. People have to pay to see hw it looks like. Isn't it? Na business be dat o. Nna

Mintayo: One needs to be careful with these visions of hell and heaven,I believe majority of them if not all are handiwork of satan to bring confusion,fear,division and lukewarmness into the heart of the believe and also to mock christainity but GOD CAN'T be mocked,we all need to sit down with the BIBLE and know what it says.
Any vision that will cause division,confusion and fear to the believer i believe CANNOT be from God.(IMO).

heaven and hell are real. But those visions are fake cos it doesn't fit into the scripture. Hw can they claim they saw servants of God who hv passed on roasting in hell. It is really crazy.

spencerwilliams: rememba in dat story it was abraham dat answered d rich man nd nt God himself,so dat does nt mean God said he can neva bring people back,like i normaly say God is answerin d praya of d rich man.

u lie. Those visions are fake, stop deceiving people. GOD is nt answering any prayer. Those visions are man-made. Until u show me people who came back to life and preach heaven and hell in the bible, u hv to stop those fallacious comment.

[quote author=lana_Vello]how dyu know the people who resurrected in the bible didn't see visions of heaven/hell?!?
the fact that the bible didn't tell ain't enough reason to speculate!
PS: I ain't saying they saw any visions either![/quote]why do u want to go beyond the limit of the bible. The bible did nt say anything about people who died and came back to life to narrate d story of heaven and hell, so let us leave it like that. Any vision of such now is fake.

joyce01: One thing we must know is dat Jesus Christ is d same yesterday. today and. forever. "We are no t under d law but grace " means that sin no longer has dominion over us. God will not compromise his standard because u don't believe, he's not a respecter of persons. Someone commented earlier dat does it mean dat all d women in d world who wear trousers will go to he'll? D answer is a capital Yes! I'm not judging please, I'm speaking in accordance with the Scriptures. Unless they repent of thidea things including d is. of attachments and other artificial things, they won't make d kingdom of God. We might argue that where is it stated dat trousers is foe men. No matter how we argue, we all know deep down in our hearts dat even before we were born, trousers were specifically for men. We know! Let's not shy away from d truth... Those who argue dat it's not bad still have doubts (even if they'll not admit it) as to whether they're on d right path. Y deceive ourselves for this long. Some of them are shy to openly come out and accept this fact probably because they will be laughed at. My point exactly is dat God is a merciful His but He's also a consuming fire. It is a fearful thing, d Bible says, to fall into d hands of d living God. Y do we keep mocking God? We know d truth but we find it hard to accept and practice it, why? It was God who gave Moses those laws nd He's still d same His today. Y do we think those laws are no longer binding? Has God changed? NO! His standard Stanley sure! We claim those laws were meant for d IsraeliteIsraelites, why then do we claim d blessings of d old testament? We know d truth, let's admit it for goodness sake! I'm not imposing this on anyone,you're entitled to your own opinion. I'm just saying dis Cos I do not want your blood to be required of me.. Peace!

are u God that is going to send those people to hell. Do u think God reason the way u are reasoning now? By the way hw do u get those facts? where is ur links?. So that i will read it myself. Hw do u know that trouser was originally made for men only and men wore it first? U really amazed me. U are just speaking blindly here.

And pls tell me hw many of the law of moses u know and are keeping. Before we go on.

The problem we have today in christianity is indoctrination. One man of God or Evangelist even prophet whatever title they bear will just say something and everybody will swallow it hook, line and sinker without even studying it themselves whether it was so. They dnt study to show themselves approved unto God, that is why they fall victim of strange doctrines and are being tossed to and fro with every wind of doctrines like children.

Ephesians 4:14.
That we henceforth be no more children tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine by the sleight of men and cunning craftiness whereby they lie in wait to deceive.

PrettyGaby: it can't be done away with because the law was fulfilled in the person of Christ. we don't look to it because we don't have to try to fulfill the law anymore, since Christ has done it. The law has served its purpose

i am sure the guy is confused now

spencerwilliams: @Ukuts gp: if i show u wer men wore trousas in d bible wil u believ it's nt 4 women,just answer yes or no b4 i show u,i mean from d bible itself.would u believ?

and if i show u where men wore skirt will u also believe it?

johnwizey: Dere is notin to sought out in it. Just commit suicide so u can ask him directly...........mtchewww

u must be a joker right?

The way people see visions of heaven and hell this days is becoming too rampant. I begin to ask myself this question that, why didn't Lazarus and others who woke up from the dead miraculously in the bible did not went to heaven and hell to see how it look like and begin to tell the story of their encounter in heaven and hell to generate money. Is it that there is no hell or heaven at that time? Or the people of that time did not need the warning of hell-fire? Or maybe it was just a religious propaganda by our modern pastors and Evangelist? or is it another avenue to make money for themselves by selling the CDs and books? Or perhaps, the word of God is not complete that it require some visions to embellish it? Many questions to ask these visioneers. I cant understand this recent development of seeing visions of heaven and hell here and there.

And the worst thing is that those people normally claim to have seen servants of God such as Benson Idahosa, Bimbo Odukoya and others who had passed on languishing in hell-fire just to make some money. I pity them. GOD is nt the author of confusion, his word is enough for us.

And again this people contradict the teaching of paul concerning the resurrection of the dead in the last days. 1 corinthians 15.

One thing i know is that those visions are all false and ficticious. They are all man-made stories and therefore should be discarded. Galatians 1:6-10. Read ur bible which is the word of God and that should be enough. Dnt let those people mislead u.

Drop ur comments now and let us sought this thing out.

Read John 11.

People should stop the hypocrisy. Wearing of trouser by ladies is nt a sin. They cant prove it anywhere in the bible.

rationalmind: Hehehehe, I foresaw those kind of responses.

did u support that abomination if i may ask. Anyway, it is nt for me.

This is pure madness in this 21st century. Barbaric and evil.

Ok

One more thing. If u want to win her, introduce Jesus to her and she is yours. Introducing Jesus to her is the best gift u can give to her. Try this, it will work.

Many girls are just mere pretender. They can pretend to the very last. If u want to marry her all u need is perseverance.

spencerwilliams: have u opened 2 romans 3:31 i wnt u 2 tel me wat u tink b4 i continue.God bless

we dnt do away with the law, but we dnt also hv to look to the law again but unto jesus. We are justified by having faith in christ and nt by doing the works of the law. That is why the bible say that when u keep all the laws but fail in one u automatically fail all. God dnt relate with us on d basis of d law again, we hv gone beyond that. Abraham was justified by faith and nt by doing the works of the law. So when u now say that the gentiles must be circumcise first before they come to God just as in paul's days u are then sinning against God. We are nt under the law but under grace.

Why is there no sign indicating new post again.

spencerwilliams: D problem wit people is dat dey don't undastand what d bible mean by sayin u ar not justified by observin d law,if u say becos we ar in d era of grace d law is no longa efectiv den read romans 3:31 nd den answa d bible 4 yourself.And i also want 2 let u know dat all questions concernin dis topic can b answered.GOD BLES U ALK

answer the questions, let me see. One more thing, hw many of the laws u are keeping? Let me know too.

rationalmind: Hey!!!

Your input is needed on https://www.nairaland.com/1528436/all-atheists-agnostics-pagans-lets

that practice was later nullified by God

I am really beginning to think that this tithe of a thing is a scam