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Sal C: What else do you want me to see? I gave you an instance where Jesus Christ himself used an object to cure the bible and this is all you can say?

so u cant see the making of evil concotion there abi. Can demon be cast out with evil concotion. Hv u seen such in the bible. What are they doing with human liver and gull and those rubbish there.why dont u post that verse let me clarify it for u. That is nt of God. That books is an occultic books and it is devilish.

[quote author=Demain_man]Who is your sister? Do you marry your sister? If yes why do you have to lie to hide the fact?
If God assisted Judith in telling lies who assisted Abraham? Devil?[/quote]did it state that God assisted abraham in telling lies or u want to accuse God. Or perhaps, add ur own version to that story. So if i tell lies now it was God abi? And who is d father of lies?

Sal C: Are you asking me? The answer is in the passage i gave to you.

i now know dat lack of understanding is ur problem. Did u at all read the full account of that story?

Sal C: Make research and verify if the first translation of kjv has apocrypha and why.

why dnt u make the research and post it here for us to see.

Sal C: I suppose you are talking about the liver and gall bladder of fish and i don't see anything magical about it, except you want us to believe that Jesus Christ using mud to cure the blind was also a form of magic.

open ur eyes and read it very well

[quote author=Demain_man]When asked whose wife Sarah was what was your FATHER Abraham reply? This boy/man, you dey read your bible so? or you just come here just to argue blindly?

Did God rebuke Abraham for that lie?[/quote]so that scripture tells u dat God was the one who helped Abraham tell lies when God himself condemned lying. So God was contradicting himself abi. And when u look at it closely u will really finds out that sarah was Abraham's sister.

Sal C: Study 1kings 22 concentrate on verse 22 and see how God helped 400 of his prophets tell lies.
According to you that book is false and heretic right?

are u telling me now that God support lying

Sal C: Are you putting words into my mouth. I only asked a question, if you give an answer to my question, i will either agree or disagree and tell you why.
*waiting*

it was the writer who made that statement

Sal C: Are you putting words into my mouth. I only asked a question, if you give an answer to my question, i will either agree or disagree and tell you why.
*waiting*

it was the writer period

italo: What is magical and occultic about it?

Why did the KJ Bible initially have the deuterocanonical books if they supported evil?

my king jame have none of this books. No king james have those books. ur statement is false

[quote author=Demain_man]The funny thing is that most of the Christian celebrations (Christmas, easter etc) have paganism origin (the whiteman religion before sef was paganism) yet they 'christians' celebrate it. And now they claim that Catholic Church they use magic

Paganism no be magic? [/quote]magic is satanic and devilish. We dnt practice paganism, if u people are pagans good for u. We follow christ. Our focus is in christ.

[quote author=Demain_man]Did God not assist your FATHER Abraham in telling lies too? Is that not immoral? SMH for you[/quote]where do u get that demonic idea from

Some of the teachings in those books are immoral. In Judith 9:10, 13, it says God assisted judith in the telling of lies. The apocrypha books of Ecclesiasticus and wisdom of solomon teaches that morality is based on expedience. In otherwords, according to these books it is right to sin in some situations.

Sal C: Refrence please.

the apocrypha describes magical portions which are alleged to drive away demons.
Tobit 6:1-17. This support occultic practices contrary to God's standard

[quote author=Demain_man]It's a free world. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just as some people will say that the whole of the bible is a big lie and will go further to prove their views with references to books and all what not.

How do you know that the bible you are using is not a fraud? Because the early christians told you so and your church is using it to teach you.

For you to come here and try to condemn the same people that brought you all these christianity thing is quite sad indeed.

Let me ask you one question.

You probably use the King James Version of the bible. Ask your self this. KJV of what? Do you know where the original is? Have you seen it before? Between the version and the authentic which do you think will be the real deal?

Why will someone make a version of the authetic product and then turn round and call theirs the real mcCoy especially when you remember the history of King James and the Catholic Church[/quote]the catholic cant claim they wrote the bible. None of the writer of the bible came from rome. Roman catholic have nothing to do with the bible. The jew where the ones who canonise the old testament scripture. ever before the roman catholic was born the scripture have been in use by jew in their synagogue. Even jesus read the scripture in the synagogue

Sal C: Was the above written by the writer or the translator?

y do u tink it is nt d writer

The apocrypha books also support the use of magic and other occultic practices which cannot be attributed to God.

None of the apocryphal writers laid claim to inspiration. Most of them confessed non-inspiration.

In the prologue of Ecclesiasticus, the writer states: '' you are intreated therefore to read with favour and attention and to pardon us if in any parts of what we have laboured to interprete, we may seem to fail in some of the phrases''
this above quote goes to show that the writer were nt inspired.

Elantracey: Self-righteousness is lyk a filthy rag before God n cant take u any were...stop tryin to be holy n just be holy

that is it. Many people want to establish their own righeousness and therefore fall from grace. Dnt wear earings, dnt do make up, dnt do ur hair, dnt use rubber thread on ur hair, dnt wear neck chain, dnt wear ring, dnt wear jewels, dnt use golden ornament, dnt wear bracelet, soon they will add dnt comb ur hair and dnt rub vaseline. Could u imagine that? Those people are just hypocrite, their christianity is just superficial and carnal.

[quote author=amara.lizzy%40y]There is a way dat seem right unto a man but the end of that road is destruction and death.[/quote]u amaze me

truthislight: It is Yahweh that decides what is to be done and how he should be worshiped and not to be done.

If Yahweh commanded Israel to build an ack then, he has the right to do so. It was his will then.

It was also Yahweh that puts a stop to it.

Ask the Roman catholic who gave them the commanment to build images today as against Yahweh's instruction not to ?

Did Yahweh appeared to their pope privately ?

Let them show proof where Yahweh also directed them as he directed the Israelites and later ask them not to.

They should show proof and not presumptiouse acts, simple.

maybe mary directed them

Ok. No problem

The apocrypha book was never inspired of God.

Let us nt derail this thread. Let us deal with this issue first

Ezekiel 16:8-13.
Now when i passed by thee and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love and i spread my skirt over thee and covered thy unclothedness: yea, i sware unto thee and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the lord GOD, and thou becamest mine.
9. Then i washed thee with water, yea, i thoroughly washed away thy blood from thee and i anointed thee with oil.
10. I clothed thee also with broidered work and shod thee with badgers' skin and i girded thee about with fine linen and i covered thee with silk.
11. I decked thee also with ornaments and i put bracelets upon thy hands and a chain on thy neck.
12. And i put a jewel on thy forehead and earrings in thy ears and a beautiful crown upon thine head.
13. Thus wast thou deck with gold and silver and thy raiment was of fine linen and silk and broidered work. Thou didst eat fine flour and honey and oil and thou wast exceeding beautiful and thou didst proper into a kingdom.

Now, if it is in this generation we would criticize God that God is wrong. Imagine some churches saying u must nt beautify urself. U must nt make up, wear earring, put on neck chain and so on. And the bible shows otherwise. Many people wants to prove more holy than God. They want to go beyond God. But they would only end up crashing. Legalism in church cannot save.

anibi9674: did u hear d warning dat was giving 2 paul eneche . The senior pastor of dunamis ?

i dnt resort to man made vision in issue like this but the word of God. People have been parading false vision here and there just to make money. Anything outside the word of God count me out. Galatian 1:6-9. Anyway u can post it here so that we compare it with d word of God the bible. Thanks.

Beehorn: I can't provide answerz to ur questnz...bt what i knw is that as 4rum 2day am nt goin 2 put n trouserz...nd i won't even apply make-up on my face.
Mr op u're decieving us...nd i dnt want to go to hell.By the way,are u a satanist or an atheist?

oh, U got it all wrong. I am a christian and i am proud to be one. only that i dnt want to be tied down by false teachers like u people because of lack of understanding of the scripture. If u want to live that way no problem but stop deceiving people that they will go to hell 4 wearing trouser. I hate deceit. I hate when people carry false doctrine here and there and when u ask them to prove it, they just stand speechless. Because someone said it doesn't make it correct, u have to study the bible urself to confirm if those those things are so. Christianity have been wrongly portrayed by those false teacher who interprete the bible with their senses. It is a shame.
U said u cant provide answer to my question, yet u called me a deceiver. It goes to show that u have been brainwashed by those false teachers. But God will help u.

You can also read this too.
https://www.nairaland.com/1035878/did-catholic-church-give-us

It is like we dnt hv mods again in this section . Cos i cannot feel their presence since last two weeks o.

The request i hv made for donkey years now hv gone unanswered, even my complaint about the 'new' sign hv nt received any answer.

If mods still go on strike they should let me know so that i dnt bother them o. Thanks.

What if men start biting two oranges if they are fighting with the female species.

Enigma: Ah, I had forgotten this thread! Hopefully I can come back to it. All it should take to debunk the Roman Catholic falsehoods and chicanery is further copy and paste from some I made earlier.

In the meantime my attention is preoccupied with papal infallibility here https://www.nairaland.com/1522201/defend-catholic-teachings-here/12#19820136

ok. Those guy are expert in lying o

macof: Is this not hypocrisy?

Don't u and ur church members hustle for anointing oil and holy water from pastors

i dnt.