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i cant believe this. Serious?

Soon there will be a movie titled '' miracle river'' trust Nollywood.

kendraloops: Did u actually type the above or someone hacked into your account n typed it?

ask me o. That guy really need deliverance. T.b Joshua on point.

It means doctors are in problem now cos nobody will patronize them again. Also, that place can be used as tourist attraction to generate revenue for the government. PDP Should act very fast now.

But seriously, this is funny. In this century people can still be this gullible when america is far ahead of us in science and technology we are here still talking about miracle river somewhere. I just shake my head in pity.

I know some people will go and just make their home close to the river. In case there is fever they will just dive into the water.
But wait o, Nigerians are too funny, i just hope that d water will cure d naivity and stupidity of some people.

highyo: Do you understand how to sin against the holy spirit?

i dnt know. Tell me

Enigma: Whenever Roman Catholics try to confuse others and to mix up the Roman Catholic Church with "the Catholic Church", it is helpful to point out the following!

When they say or imply that "they" are "the Catholic Church", they are simply engaging in wuruwuru Mathematics. According to their fraudulent mathematics 5-4=5 (five minus four = five)

The Catholic Church = Alexandria + Antioch + Constantinople + Jerusalem + Rome!

The Roman Catholic Church = Rome

So, they are simply trying to pass off only Rome i.e. the Roman Catholic Church as "the Catholic Church".

In any event, whether it is the Roman Catholic church denomination or even "the Catholic Church", the Bible had been written and "compiled" before either of them came into existence --- by Christians! Hallelujah.

If you want to catch them out, when they say "the Catholic Church", ask them which one e.g. the Orthodox Catholic Church aka Eastern Orthodox who even have a better claim to be called "the Catholic Church" than the Roman Catholic church denomination?

ok now i see

The apocryphal books support magic, incantation, occultic practices, suicide, immoral acts, mary born sinless(immaculate conception), purgatory, salvation by works or merit etc true or false

vickyO: Did you read my post above? If you fail to understand it, then you are the victim of self delusion, not me.

dnt mind those religious fanatics and 'pharisical' christians. The question i have been asking them since have gone unanswered yet they will come here and vomit rubbish. It is a shame.

And people will tell u that they went to hell and Jesus told them that if one dnt pay tithe one will go to hell

woky: and this is not catholic bashing thread

why bashing luther too. Is it luther that is responsible for your many strange doctrine

woky: clown


u ar confuse

u are more confused

Elantracey: u cant be soo sure wether it's lies or truth so u beta watch n live right, whether it's true or not we will know on d last day dere's no need arguin about it

i know it is a lie, and i dnt need those visions of threat to live right. I have already know through the word of God that i must live right. So nobody should threaten me with false vision of hell

chukwudi44: Paul did quote from the book of wisdom in his letter to the romans.Jesus also did attend the festival of the rededication of the temple instituted by Judas Macabees.

Besides there is also no NT quotation of books like Obadiah,esther,ezra,zepheniah,Ruth,songs of solomon and eclesiaticus,should we also say these books are not scriptures? What about books like Enoch quoted in the NT but not contained in the bible

where are the chapter and verse

[quote author=Demain_man]Thanks. So how would you qualify all the Christians on this forum that argue among one another using the bible to support their claims and counter claims? Who amongst them has the correct Holy Spirit and who has the fake Holy Spirit? or should I just follow my 'heart' and go with the one i am convinced is right?

I belief men like Candour, Pastor Kun, Mark, Zakky and Goshen have the right 'Holy Spirit' and that men like Joagbaje, Bidam, Gombs and one OLA... something have a fake 'Holy Spirit'.

Am I right? thank you in advance[/quote]there is nothing like fake holyspirit, those people who teaches heresies are just using their senses. They were nt open to the leading of the holyspirit and the holyspirit is one. He opens our understanding to the scriptures. If u submit to him he will give u understanding.

The apocryphal books existed before the new testament times, yet there is not one single quotation from the apocrypha is in the new testament.
Jesus quoted from twenty four of the old testament books and the new testament quotes from thirty four books of the old testament.
The question are why are those books not quoted in the new testament?
Why are the main characters such as susanna in the book of sussana not ever mention in the new testament?

I am busy now. But know that those books are fiction of imagination.

chukwudi44: This is to prove to you that you protestants have been in the business of removing books from the bible right from the days of your founding father Martin Luther.You met an already canonised catholic bible and decided to remove 7 books(though martin luther wanted it to be 12) and now you turn back to accuse catholics of adding to the bible.What Impudence!!!

see the way martin luther denigrated those scriptures the same way you do to the deuterocanons smh for you peeps

those books were never accepted by the early christian due to the reason given in my ealier post. They are mere story books and are fictional. They are nt inspired by God. The catholic added it to support their evil and barbaric tradition of men.

Mee234: Not by preaching false vision of anything but by letting the people "behold the severity and goodness of God........ goodness toward you if u continue otherwise u shall be cut of."

but telling people lies is not the best. Those visions of hell are false. It is all fake. That is my point

macof: So u believe Jesus is son of God because u read it from a book

U believe hell exist because u read it from a book(even the hell in the Bible isn't wat u think, u mis-interpret and don't even understand the Bible u hold dear)

U might as well believe that Superman is in space fighting bad guys and keeping earth safe

U might believe krpton existed as the home planet of superman

Since u believe things u read in books so much

the bible is the true word of God and i believe

There are false teachers everywhere parading themselves as servants of God but thank God that the church i attends follow strictly the word of God. But as for the catholic it is obvious that they follow tradition nt God.

5. The Jews are the ones who canonized the books of the Old Testament and they did not include them. They have always excluded these Apocryphal books because the material in these books is heretical and contains gross doctrinal errors.

Some of these gross doctrinal errors are: prayers for the dead(macc. 12:45-46), and salvation by works.(Tobit 12:9). Praying for the dead is not biblical as Hebrews 9:27 plainly state. There is no second chance after death. Ephesians 2:8-9 clearly states that salvation is not by works or merited by man.

The stories in the Apocryphal books are extra biblical, fanciful and clearly pure fiction and demonic and so should be rejected.

Why do biblical christians and churches reject the Apocrapha as being inspired of God.

1. They abound in historical and geographical inaccuracies and anachronisms.

2. They teach doctrines which are false and foster practices which are at variance with inspired scripture.

3. They resort to literary types and display an artificiality of subject matter and styling out of keeping with inspired scripture.

4. They lack the distinctive elements which give genuine scripture their divine character.

[quote author=Demain_man]This church that you are up in arms against put the whole bible together and named it bible. This is the oldest church known to man and all the other churches broke out of this Catholic Church.

Why not just abandon the whole bible and go look for you own book?

Next you will be blaming God for making Catholic church the first church. [/quote]u are just deceiving urself

The fifteen Apocryphal books which the Roman Catholics have included in their bibles come from a collection of about eighteen or more books written during the inter-testamental period. This period of four hundred years began with God giving the last book of the old testament which was Malachi. The inter-testamental period ended with the coming of christ and the writing of the New Testament. During this four hundred years God sent no prophets to Israel and was silent giving no written revelation.

The word 'Apocryphal' means 'of questionable authenticity'. This are called non-canonical books because when the canon of scriptures(the sixty six books of the old and New Testaments) was accepted by the early christians, they recognised that these books contained spurious materials and therefore were not inspired of God. Other names for these books are ''hidden'' or ''deuterocanonical'' books. These books are also called ''pseudepigraphal'' meaning ''false writings'' to designate them as spurious and unauthentic books of the late centuries B.C. and early centuries A.D. These books contains religious folklore and have never been considered inspired of God by biblical christians from the earliest times of churches history.
Some have referred to these books as the missing books of the bible and conclude they are new discovers which are part of God's revelation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The sixty six books that comprise the old and New Testament are God's revelation to man and when John completed the book of Revelation, God's word to man was complete. GOD has not added to his revelation since. The content of these spurious books shows them to be inspired of man not God. It is also noteworthy that the Roman church which is a false church with false doctrines and pagan teachings accepts these books as scripture. No biblical christians or churches have ever accept them as such. The fact is there is no lost books in the bible.

These books or writings from the apocrypha that the Roman catholic church claims are inspired are Tobit, Judith, wisdom of solomon, Ecclesiasticus, Baruch, 1 & 2 Maccabees, letters of Jeremiah, Addition to Esther, prayer of Arariah, Susanna, and Bel and the Dragon. Three other Apocryphal books in the septuagint, the prayer of Manasseh, 1&2 Esdias are not considered canonical by the Roman Catholic church. These books were not accepted by the Roman catholic church until 1546 in the Council of Trent. Therefore for over 1300years since the inception of the Roman Catholic church in the fourth century, even they did not considered them inspired.

To be cont....

I think most of the catholic doctrines cannot be inspired by the holyspirit, they just formulate it.

italo: Amazing!

The same people that have been telling me to leave the Catholic Church and join their "churches" are now saying their Pastors and GOs are "greedy men," "criminals," "armed robbers."

Thank God I never followed them.

stop deceiving urself, is ur pope perfect?

Have u nt seen a pastor saying in church that, the holyspirit ministered to him that the first 50 people to rush out with the sum of 100,000 naira before he count to 10 will receive double blessing from God within one month? Is that nt funny?
At least if the church hv some need that they want to meet they can informed the congregation to make contribution instead of employing tactics that the holyspirit ministered to him whereas nothing like that happened.

Civory: ukuts, I think the pastors and prophets and co you mentioned are only saying what they feel about a particular subject in the scriptures and not what the Holy Spirit said, otherwise they won't be saying different things about the same thing.

they should just tell us that they are using their human knowledge and senses instead of telling us that they were inspired by the holyspirit. Lying against the holyspirit.

Enigma: You already have a place; I'm not going to stop you from going there.

Meanwhile, if this is not a Roman Catholic bashing thread - is it a Luther bashing thread?

You Roman Catholics should at least try to be balanced. If one of you can slander Luther why will people not "bash" the Roman Catholic Church.

What made Luther leave the Roman Catholic Church again?

the catholic like running their mouth like tap. Why mentioning luther at all. Is luther responsible for this? Why nt the pope

woky:

this is nt catholic bashing thread. So what brought u to this thread. Anyway, i know what brought u here.

[quote author=Demain_man]
You have too many questions, you must be a confused christian like many other confused christians.

Yes, there are as many holy Spirits as there are churches and religion body. Holy Spirit = Doctrine
No two churches can have the same Holy Spirit unfortunately.

Holy Spirit is simply your inner mind, your convictions, your believes. Wetin your mind tell you is holy Spirit[/quote]u see urself now. I am confused and ur post shows that u are more confused. Hw can the holyspirit be what ur mind tells u. So if my mind tells me that stealing is not a sin does it mean that it was the holyspirit? Ur brain need check up. I am nt confused by the way.