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Did anyone read where he mentioned Dan fodio?
The day those desert animals stepped their dirty feet into Nigeria was the day this country was finished. The hausa Aborigines and their kingdoms who are the owners of the core north have been destroyed and forgotten for some blood sucking jihadists from futa jallon.

Empiree:
okay now you are shifting goalpost. It is now Pantami that "single handedly" shared data. You should already know that you have crucified yourself. Why do you think Pantami would do that without security personnel knowledge?.

Let me analyze your problem. Your problem, like others on this platform is, Fulani, Islam, Islamic countries etc. You all started with govt sharing our info with Islamic countries until I reminded you guys that GEJ administration did the same. Now you said it is Pantami that "single handedly" doing this?. Bro, let not hatred of other make you unjust.. There is no way Pantami would do this without top officials know about it. Let's get over sentiment. You have agreed that it is wrong for law enforcement to do this whether in Nigeria or western world. Case is closed.

Sentiment is what's killing you people in the country. The country can never grow like this. There is no difference between Nigerian govt sharing it's citizens data with Islamic countries AND GEJ or US govt shared their citizens data with Israel. All are wrong, period.

You seem to be running around in circles but let me make it simplier for you to comprehend.
1. Gej did as Buhari is presently earmarking a huge sum to intercept and monitor calls and texts, APPROVED BY THE SENATE even though it is a clear violation of our privacy.

2. US- Isreal's intelligence pact is same as Nigeria-Interpol's. It is purely intergovernmental intelligence sharing agreement. PURELY INTELLIGENCE GATHERING.

3. Pantami doesn't have any right to enlist Nigeria in any EXTERNAL ASSOCIATION without THE APPROVAL OF THE NASS.

4. Pantami doesn't have any rights to share our data to any UNAPPROVED ASSOCIATION. ASSOCIATION OF WHOM AND FOR WHAT ?

LegendHero:
What you’re saying here is just use of English.

Firstly, in the 1960s era, Nigeria was never a forced union in that sense. The three major regions came together and agreed to a constitution and got their independence with them forming their government. 1914 is a forced period, but in 1960 they came together to agree on their own accord and constitution.

In your second sentence, we have the same exact thing in the 1960s. We have regions controlling their affairs with a weak center and we were progressing better as a new country then until greed, power, and circumstances led to the collapse of the system.

Mind you, I am not saying Nigeria must be together or saying this our coexistence make sense. I also want Oduduwa if you care to know.

What I’m saying is that, we tend to blame our own inefficiency on something. That was why I gave an example of other African countries with nearly monolithic ethnicity and yet they fail.

Even if we have 3 countries now, there will still be cries of marginalization and etc.

Then you divide it to 100 countries more, the other clans within the counties will still cry marginalization.

While multi-ethnicity could be one of Nigeria problem, it is not the major determinant of our lack of development just as is the case in other African counties.

If we had not an amalgamation of two protectorates, we would not have been in this mess.
In the first place, there was never a union. The southern protectorate was separately and independently administered from the North. It was the mistake of bringing the two unequal union together that led to successive modifications from one system to another.

ivolt:
Every country with sizeable population is made up of different ethnicities who were conquered or dominated into a union.
There are at least 10 ethnic countries within Germany, 50 within China, 40 in Russia, and 7 within England alone!
Let us not even go near America.

How come you have not been hearing about them?
Because they are mostly smart and realize that it is better to solve problems than fighting
for a petty nation subject to external whims.

China with Taiwan, Hong Kong, and other territories have its own laws governing its peculiarities, sames as England. America also practices autonomous system of government.
Nigeria meanwhile practice an horrendous system of undemocratic union.

LegendHero:
Africa is a continent where you have nations with multiple tribes at close proximity. I don’t know if that can be attributed to our ancient lifestyle where you have people with different languages and tribe at close proximity.

Even if an African is the one that partition Africa, we will still have countries with multiple tribes except if you are going to create one countries per tribe and you are going to have unrealistic numbers of countries.

And yes, there are countries in Europe with more than one ethnic group. Bosnia & Herz, Latvia, Belgium, Serbia & Mont, Switzerland, Macedonia, Estonia and etc.

Back to Africa matter, have you ever wondered why we also have clannish problem at state level? Besides community clashes, do you know there are some states which segregate themselves based on governor clan? You will hear a certain clan cannot be governor, it has to be this and that. This is just to tell you that Africans will always see difference.

Mind you I’m not saying having this kind of multi-tribal country is the optimal solution, I’m just telling you that Africans will always blame something or someone for their inability.

Now let me direct the question back to you:
-Have there been any monolithic ethnic country in Africa that is advanced and prosperous? If you know of one mention it.

Lol.. First, none of those European countries you listed are a forced union.
The structures of the countries is such that peculiarities were given adequate legitimate considerations. In this instance, people of cultural norms across ethnic groups are distinctly divided along constitutional provisions. No country in Europe would ever allow itself be governed by an irregular pattern of purpose. Each region has its own laws with referendum to determine a set of direction whenever the case arises. They are too organized to be direction less and tactless as we have in Nigeria whereby ALL groups are governed with no respect to each other's peculiarities.

Empiree:
Uncle mi, I live in New York. Law enforcement would violate your privacy whether in covert or overt operation. It is only lawyers that can determine the violation in the kotu of law. There are different spy technics they use and its all depends on who and what they dealing with. What Pantami and Buhari administration is doing is nothing compared to what US citizens go through. US govt can spy on you without you knowing anything for years. You should thank God that Nigerian govt was transparent in this case. They didn't have to tell citizens about this at all.



Pantami is govt official. Didn't I show you guys that GEJ did the same?. And yes, some elements within western countries do share citizens data with another countries even govt itself does. Why do you think Trump was asking Nigerians data?.

I care less wherever you live, it doesn't you know any better. Did you understand as simple as the English when I earlier said that the practice was "not uncommon but a clear violation of privacy". No matter what a law enforcement does without legitimacy is illegal. The reason a government would monitor or interrupt a citizen is "allegedly" for the purpose of security.
Isreal-US is same as Nigeria-Interpol's intelligence sharing. Such is applicable within inter governmental intelligence agencies.
But in a situation whereby a pantami- a mere govt appointee would single handed share our data with an unknown Association of Islamic countries under whatever agenda is criminal and culpable.

LegendHero:
Africans will always find someone to blame.

You’re blaming a Lugard that died in 1945 for the current state of your nation. Even if Lugard made mistake at the onset, why can’t you as human being solve your problems since all these past decades?

Look across all Africa nations, beside South Africa which the white man left late, which country exactly is worthy of celebrating with technological feats? Almost none.

Are we to curse lugard for the greediness, corruption, lack of system, and etc in other African countries too?

It is a fundamental failure putting people of opposite mentality in a union.
Is there any country in Europe or Asia, in reference, with a glaring dissimilar ethnic proclivities that are binding together in a forced union?
Until Nigeria untangles itself from the mistake of 1914, Africa will remain a dark continent.

Kingcalls:
At 34...ronaldo just finished 3 straight champions league ... let messi that keeps on ghosting in world cups made of mostly European teams come and win player of the tournament in the euros

Which school did you attend?
Messi should come play in the euros as would Ronaldo in Copa?. How is that ever possible?. And did you just say a guy that had finished as runner up in a world cup final " keeps ghosting"?

Empiree:
You think western govts don't monitor domestic and international calls?. You guys need to wake up and smell the coffee. What NIGERIA is doing right now is done by United States and other western countries. If you don't know go and do your simply research.

I don't know what all the noise about. It is not new for govt to monitor calls. It is not new for govt to share data. You people need to chill.

Read me well. I said it is not uncommon but a clear violation of privacy. Western countries do such stealthily. It is called espionage, which often leads to a clash of heads when found out.
Pantami's case is clearly devilish and criminal in nature. If you would provide me a case of any sane country that shares its citizens data with another without any sinister motive.

onatisi:
arresting him , will turn him into an instant celebrity and will give his cause more popularity , they wont make the same mistake they made with kanu , remember it was after the arrest of kanu and his bail that kanu even got more followers and acceptance .
as long as they keep him hiding and quiet , the game is still working in their favor .
igboho should not have ran away that night , they wont kill him and they wont be able to hold him for long , but by running away , he has done the fg a very great service . they will keep issuing threats and will make ppl see him as a coward fugitive who never believed in the cause he was preaching about and who couldn't lay down his life for the cause

Why was it not working in FG's favour despite Kanu was hiding far away from Nigeria?. why did FG had to bundle him back?
The fact is, being in hiding is a game of chess which the FG has no idea your next move & game plan.
You still remain as a threat as long as you are not yet within their claws.
The fear of FG is that your are most likely to remobilize at any time

Empiree:
no, you need to learn. Those countries are secular on paper but not in reality. They are Christian countries.

And besides, while I don't support sharing of Nigerian citizens data with any countries, why is there outcry now if GEJ administration did the same?. Why are you people forget so quickly?. GEJ administration also shared nigerian citizens data with Israel.

WHY ARE NONMUSLIMS IN NIGERIA SO HYPOCRITICAL?

Do you know that Buhari has earmarked 4.8b to monitor calls and texts by NIA?
While it is not uncommon for government to monitor calls and texts under the pretext of security purposes, it is a clear violation of our privacy.
However, Pantami's aim and objective is sinister, criminal, satanic and jihadistic. He has absolutely no right to share our data to any external body or a group of countries. It is undemocratic to enlist Nigeria in any external association or union without the approval of the NASS. In a saner clime, Pantami should be cooling off his ass behind the bar.

Whenever a goalkeeper wins player of the tournament in South America, I will disown football.. Europe can keep disgracing themselves in a tournament where they had cr7, a goalkeeper bested him.. Well, he scored 3 penalties.

Goalkeeper won player of the tournament. Europe na noise. All Dem sabi na penalty and VAR. If you're a young footballer watching european players your career is going nowhere.

obembet:
I like fact cos of someone like you

What you don't know, you ask. This is public forum so that you won't embarrass yourself next time

Wash your face with water and re-check the stats. I watched all the matches live, no be phone update.

2 free kicks + 1 goal + 1 pk - na legit.

ultiabaz36:
Equals GOAT. Love him or hate him, He’s the highest goal scorer of the tournament.

Thank you Ororo... Uefalonare and Pessilonare would have dominated the world of football.

Thank you for challenging them. Tho they are still working hard in Spain to break the legacy you left there but NOBODY among Uefalonare can compete with your achievements.

Which legacy did he have in Spain?
2 laliga + 2 pichichi in 9 yrs.. That's a Joke!

ojaysam25:
But messi score no open play goal in copa america, so should dey award it to diaz

2 free kicks + 1 goal + 1 pk

obembet:
I don't even see anything special about Copa America, imagine the cup played by just 8 teams compare to cup that played by 32 teams.

Agentina can not win France, England, GGermany, Italy, Portugal etc. Euro played by professional teams not Peru or Bolivia or Ecuador.

Ecuador, Bolivia, Peru, Colombia, Paraguay can not even qualify for group stage not to talk of the Major Matches.

Apart from Chile and Brazil, is there any better team In Copa America?

Europe is a bunch of small frys with exception of a few big teams. Imagine teams such as Estonia, Austria, Russia, Mecedonia, Greece, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, England, Finland, Estonia, Hezegovania, numerous bunch of lowly rated farmer's countries playing in Europe as a disrespect to the footballing heritage.
We saw Uruguay dump out Portugal in the last world cup. Chile beat same Portugal in Confederation cup. Germany a shadow of itself, Portugal, England, Switzerland, Belgium, are all media hype.
Whenever I watch south America football, it reminds me how football started and the reason the game is called a round leather game but when I tune into European football, all I see is 3D football.
IMAGINE A GOAL KEEPER BEING THE PLAYER OF THE TOURNAMENT. Europe is a disgrace to football.

LagbajaTheBEREAN:
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Thanks for pointing that one out, this is what happens when fans are quite emotional and don't wanna see beyond their nose.

On a normal day, Messi should have smile and kick the penalty away so as to prove a point to folks over here saying penalty are soft goals and all sort

Messi would rather score free kicks than penalty. The 2 free kicks was superior to Ronaldo 5 goals.

obembet:
Messi Score 2 goal 2 pk

2 amazing freekicks + 1 goal + 1 pk.
dem no be mate.

2 goals + 3 pk.

Massteve:
He got an assist, that makes him the winner

Patrik schick got none

Open play goals should be used to decide.

Kingcalls:
Ronaldo is the sole winner cos he had an assist... in 2012...he scoredthe same number of goals with torres but they used minuplayed to award torres

Using penalty to rob Patrick Schick.

ODJ124:
CR7 won UEFA Nations league...

friendly match. Lol

budaatum:
The whole day will be taken off if we lose! If we win everyone will go to school to celebrate with their mates.

You'd need a whole week instead.

Juicewrld27:
nowhere like europe

Europe is all media hype. The god of soccer smiles down from South America

SimeonOTC:
Hope Copa American organizers are seeing what they call finale
not that messi's birthday ceremony they organize every year

Abeg rest, make we hear word. South America is the home of football.

BrutusOj:
Unfortunately they will keep slaving for the less educated northerners cos of power. Beside, do you think the southern leaders cherish the lives of the commoners?

That's a rhetorical question. The answer lies in their deep pockets.

BrutusOj:
the bolded shows that you are too naive to know that the north knows politics more than the south. If they accept electronic voting, how would they use under age kids and Nigeriens, Chadians to vote for them? You want KKKK to lose relevance in election time?

That's politics of retrogression, backwardness, ridiculousness. If southern leaders knew what's good for the future of their kids, they'd fight off the shackles.

BrutusOj:
Op's post is too deep for kids like you to understand. Only the wise and highly observants will code the Op' message. Right now, there is scholarship for almost all the core northern people in big private schools in Abuja, Kaduna et. al. Their undergraduate students enjoy full scholarship both home and abroad, postgraduates are everywhere in top Asian/UK universities learning engineering, technology and sciences.

Talk about infrastructure, the road network in the north is far better than the whole of East and West. The north is planning ahead of the raining days, worse come to worse if the country splits, they would return to agriculture full force and work on the mineral deposits they have been enjoying alone(Zamfara and co..).

It's rather cool when you amuse yourselves with deceit. Northerners have been getting scholarship to go study abroad since the 70's. Yet you still can never compete with the south in 60 years. No matter the state sponsored scholarship to aid you, Southerners in their hundreds leave the shores for study on a daily.. the north cannot catch up in their lifetime, the Gap is too massive.
While the south is deliberating on electronic transfer of election, the north is yet again rejecting the idea. Your backwardness is hereditary.

Ojiofor:
You have changed your opinion,now he didn't die because he insisted or resisted them while they came for Ironsi.
It was Fajuyi himself that even led the coupists to where Ironsi was.You people should stop peddling falsehood.

Then Fajuyi asked me to take him to Ironsi so that they will obey him, that there should be only one person in charge. So, I took them to Ironsi, and major Newman, immediately he saw Ironsi, he seized his crocodile swagger stick, and then they started asking him about the January coup, he said he didn’t know about it that he only agreed to be Head of State so that he can restore confidence and normalcy. It was immediately they arrested Ironsi that they turned violent".Capt Andrew Nwankwo ADC to Gen Ironsi.

He insisted.
His wife, Victoria gave the same account, also his son who was with him while it all happened. Fajuyi insisted
The sun also had it published, go read up.

Ojiofor:
Someone who was under arrest as soon as he was sighted was insisting to save the main target .Both of them was a target and they killed them both.

Now read from eye witness account and get yourself educated rather than dwell in ignorance.

This story was told by none other than the ADC to General Aguiyi Ironsi himself, Captain (Now Senator) Andrew Nwankwo. It shows how the Northerners murdered Lt. Colonel Francis Adekunle Fajuyi and his host, Ironsi. It also shows that they lied to the Yoruba nation that Fajuyi was killed accidentally while defending Ironsi. His murder was covered up by the north in order not to make the west suspicious of their agenda. Read on


"Around 5:30 we heard gunfire, then Ironsi had called Col. Njoku to tell him about the coup. As Njoku was going out, he was short at, but he escaped with bullet wounds. It was Njoku, who was the commander of Lagos Garrison that alerted others outside the Government House, Ibadan.
"Fajuyi later sent me outside the government House to find out what was happening. I met Danjuma, who was then a major and he was my friend. He pretended he didn’t know what was happening, he was asking me, and I said I didn’t know. While I was trying to go back, one sergeant from Benue almost shot me, but Danjuma stopped him and spoke to him in Hausa. Danjuma later told me that he would like to see Ironsi, so that he could tell them what to do.

[color=#990000]"It was then that Fajuyi came out to find out what was holding me, and there inside the Government House Danjuma ordered for his arrest and mine too. That was when I saw Walbe. Then Fajuyi asked me to take him to Ironsi so that they will obey him, that there should be only one person in charge. So, I took them to Ironsi, and major Newman, immediately he saw Ironsi, he seized his crocodile swagger stick, and then they started asking him about the January coup, he said he didn’t know about it that he only agreed to be Head of State so that he can restore confidence and normalcy. It was immediately they arrested Ironsi that they turned violent".




Now tell me how Fajuyi who was equally a victim defended Ironsi?

They knew their target, it was Aguiyi Ironsi. Fajuyi was only a victim of circumstance.

Ojiofor:
This is the definition of a mercenary.
Now tell me what they are if not mercenaries?

Your twisting is wack. Banjo & other Yoruba officers weren't fighting for biafra for any economic benefits unlike France & co.
Ojukwu have Yoruba land as part of his larger administrative extension. He was emphatic in his letter that he would have Biafran troops stationed in Yoruba land with direct command from him.
His letter ruled out any debate on mercenaries.