Phones › Re: Introducing The New Iphone SE: Cheapest Iphone Ever (Mini But Mighty) by unphilaz(m): 9:57pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Truth About Crucifixion by unphilaz(m): 9:37pm On Mar 06, 2016 |
horlarwhalhe: Know thyself enjoy Many have adopted this accusation as the main complaint of hindrance to believing in evangelical Christianity. There is no other concept of God attacked more than this subject. There are many things about God that are not understood immediately, I've heard the same for predestination. Ive heard it said "people dont join the Evangelical church because they cant understand the teaching on the Trinity". This is just one of manystraw man arguments. People do not come to Christ because they dont understand the numerous doctrines. They refuse to because they cannot admit they are sinful and are in need of help outside themselves. Turning over their control to God is an act of faith. Instead faith is substituted with thecarnal mind wanting to understand something from strictly a human perspective. If I can't fully understand it I will not believe, but this is only an excuse. As Jesus stated in Jn.3:19-21" Men love darkness rather than light, they don't come to Christ because their deeds will be exposed". Both Jews and Muslim's emphatically deny that God has a Son, if one is going to find a doctrine offensive to them, I think this would be it. No one preaches the Trinity in salvation but what is preached is that Jesus is the Son of God, he is Lord. We learn about the nature of God and other basic doctrines as we grow in the faith, not before. The simple reason is we need the Holy Spirit to be our teacher in the deeper things of God. Is the Trinity pagan? The pagan religions had what we call trinities however on closer examination they are not the same in concept or substance. In the same way we would not agree with all the other religions that have a strict monotheistic view of God to be embraced as the same God of the Bible. (Islam, Bahai) The pagan concept was encapsulated with a Father, Mother, giving birth to a Son. They were three major Gods with many minor god's as well. Their trinity was comprised of three Godsnot one. The Greek triad of Zeus, Athena, and Apollo, the Hindu triad of Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva the Egyptian triad of Isis, Horus, and Sub bear no resemblance to the Biblical Trinity. They were all separate not united as the one God and almost unanimously had a mother involved as in a heavenly family. This was really tri-theism, which has more in common with Mormonism than a triune God. Anti Trinitarians make usage of the statues with three heads and saying that is our pagan God. If one is going to discount the Trinity because of some similarities in name only and not in substance. Then maybe they should be looking at their own pagan similarities. One can still be in idolatry, if their one God is not the God of the Bible. Anti Trinitarians make usage of the statues with three heads and saying that is our pagan God. If one is going to discount the Trinity because of some similarities in name only and not in substance. Then maybe they should be looking at their own pagan similarities. One can still be in idolatry, if their one God is not the God of the Bible. Where did the pagans get a concept of three? Why not two or four? Where did they get the idea of a God in heaven anyway? What about their belief in a virgin and a son, where did that originate from? Rom.1:20-25 tells us that man from the beginning knew God.", 'and their foolish hearts were darkened" vs.25 "they exchanged the truth for a lie, and worshipped and served the creature rather than the creator." When mankind fell into darkness of sin, they still retained some elements of the truth but distorted its meaning and it became lost. As Walter Martin wrote "In order to find out if the doctrine of the Trinity is true, we do not look to see if it resembles paganism, but to the bible, to see if God teaches it in his word. Pagans also believe in the concept of God. Does this mean that God must not be true? Pagans sleep. Does that mean sleeping is wrong? We must not dismiss an idea merely because it is held in common with those whom we may not approve." (The New Cults p.49) Lets not try to find all kinds of perversions from the outside that have nothing to do with the Biblical record, lets go to the Scripture to prove our major points. Alexander Hislop, in his book, "the two Babylon's", traces the history of the practices and traditions of the Roman Catholic Church. He writes on pg. 18, "All these forms have existed from ancient times, while overcome with idolatry, the recognition of the Trinity was universal, proving how deep rooted in the human race was the doctrine on the subject, which comes out so distinctly in Genesis" Robert watts in New Apologetic says "The Pagan triads are "residuary fragments of their lost knowledge of God, not different stages in a process of evolution. But evidence of a moral and spiritual degradation" (Augustus H. Strongs systematic Theology p.352) While their are Pagan Trinities which can be traced back to Babylon, instead of supporting anti Trinitarian views such as the Watchtower literature promotes, it is evidence for the tri-une God. Lets not try to find all kinds of perversions from the outside that have nothing to do with the Biblical record, lets go to the Scripture to prove our major points Hislop writes that many pagan religions held to one infinite God the creator. Strict monotheism is found in Islam and a few other religions. Are we now to accept their view because God is called one (singular)? If we are to reject the concept of the triune God, a unified one, because of the pagan distortions, then we must reject much more than this. The pagan cultures also had a virgin birth and some even had a resurrection, Tammuz died and raised 40 days later. The pagan religions had a priesthood and sacrifices, this too became distorted with human sacrifices for Gods blessings. Some Pagans believed that certain gods became men. They had Biblical symbology such as a dove, the lamb, altars, there are many religions that have distortions of the Bibles account of the flood. Are we now to reject Genesis because of their misrepresentations. They also practiced tongues- ecstatic babble. All of these are counterfeits and distortions of truth, yet we are told since they have a counterfeit Trinity, we are to reject the Biblical Trinity on the same grounds. If you are going to do that, then you must reject all of it on the basis of it being found in some form in ancient paganism. You then annihilate the doctrine of Christ as the God/man, virgin birth, his sacrifice etc. All these are the proof of what Paul explained of what happened in history in Romans one, that mankind had a true knowledge but refused to worship him and sank into idolatry. The God of the Bible is unique. He is tri-une, which is neither polytheistic nor is it tri-theistic. God is one in nature and is composed of three distinct eternal persons. They are one in substance with a difference in position. What makes all three the one God is that they share the same nature. This is the simple description of the God of the Bible. There is one choice from the Bibles revelation, if one denies the tri-une God, they are either left with atheism or polytheism. https://www.nairaland.com/428340/muhammad-versus-Jesus-christ/1#5903010 |
Christianity Etc › Re: Almuflihah & Habicab: Women’s Protection Law Is Un-isla.mic by unphilaz(op): 9:14pm On Mar 06, 2016 |
lexiconkabir: mr man, anybody can claim anything, and mind you, islam is not about one scholar or one leader, but its about the Quran and authentic hadith narrations, if he says that the Quran supports his claims, why didnt he bring his proofs from the Quran? islam is not christianity where you gullibly follow what ever "A MOG" says, but its about proofs, the internet is there, search for the verse and show us! period. AIGHT, since you want it, I CONDEMN the chief imam for standing against women's protection law and secondly, am just a messenger to bring up issues and allow u and ummah to deliberate on it... so lexiconkabir can you condemn the statement credited to this de.ranged misguided imam for claiming what the koran never said nor sanctioned thus he is a liar.  and you are a better muslim according to wafa sultan |
Education › Re: Some Collections Of Fascinating Photos. by unphilaz(m): 8:38pm On Mar 06, 2016 |
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Education › Re: Some Collections Of Fascinating Photos. by unphilaz(m): 8:28pm On Mar 06, 2016 |
Explorers: 66. A German sailor who reportedly disappeared in 2009 was found on his yacht in Mummified state after 7 years.
The mummified body of a 59-year-old German sailor named Manfred Fritz Bajorat, who reportedly disappeared along with his yacht in 2009, was found by some fishermen while his yacht was drifting off the coast of Surigao del Sura in southern Philippines. His boat that has now been commonly named as “Ghost yacht” was reportedly last seen in 2009 which was also the year in which Bajorat was last heard from by one of his friend on social media. His body was found near to the radio telephone as if he was trying one last desperate Mayday call to save himself when he died.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3469044/Mummified-body-German-adventurer-vanished-inside-drifting-yacht-Philippines.html waiting for science to analyse mystical |
Education › Re: Some Collections Of Fascinating Photos. by unphilaz(m): 8:23pm On Mar 06, 2016 |
Explorers: Mohammad Hasamur Rahman, 32, sits with this new bride, 15-year-old Nasoin Akhter, in Manikganj, Bangladesh.
Photographer Allison Joyce described her as the "saddest bride I have ever seen." |
Celebrities › Re: Regina Askia's Open Letter To Buhari by unphilaz(m): 8:02pm On Mar 06, 2016 |
crotonite: GUYS, MIND HOW YOU INSULT BUHARI. you can insult him freely if you pass this simple test (bubuAge/2) - urAge = X
(if x < 0) buhari is not ur play mate. (else) ur good to go. |
Celebrities › Re: Regina Askia's Open Letter To Buhari by unphilaz(m): 8:02pm On Mar 06, 2016 |
Bitterleafsoup: The people like the two above me are the problems we are having. They are still co-signing a terrible performance by the current administration, they said we should give them one year and lookey here one year is in the next mile and it is getting worst. When you have no plan you plan to fail.... |
Celebrities › Re: Regina Askia's Open Letter To Buhari by unphilaz(m): 7:56pm On Mar 06, 2016 |
DrayZee: Upon all the see that you have saw, you are still asking? Yimu. Dey dere dey ask. wayo abeg help me laf abeg |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Truth About Crucifixion by unphilaz(m): 5:10pm On Mar 06, 2016 |
DeathStroke007: you choose to believe it or not.. it's your choice noted |
Christianity Etc › Re: Truth About Crucifixion by unphilaz(m): 5:03pm On Mar 06, 2016 |
DeathStroke007: read gospel of Barnabas on crucifixion... you will know the truth Barnabas that empiree is more of Muslim apologetics than Christianity. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Do You Think Christians? by unphilaz(m): 4:47pm On Mar 06, 2016 |
Godwin2016: Dangerous knowledge that seeks to destroy the soul. Your mission is to deceive many,you place the worship of the stars over God. Lets see if God will let you wake up tomorrow! Do not be deceived by this clever serpent. You will burn in hell for calling my Lord and Savior gay. If my God does not strike you down,consider yourself lucky. I am sick and tired of seeing gays,satanists,atheist on this site. Kingdom of God suffereth violence and violence taketh it by force. Accept Jesus before it is too late Why are you sick..be healed. Are you new on nairaland, sorry you have to know who YOU are but mind you the kingdom is not tired of suffering violence rather its the gods in human form shall reign in this life...new creature is their form. |
Christianity Etc › Re: . by unphilaz(m): 4:40pm On Mar 06, 2016*. Modified: 4:56pm On Mar 06, 2016 |
SomaliGuy7: Because Islam doesn't recognise such an union.
A muslim girl can't be married to a non- muslim man. You may or may not like, but this is a direct violation as it goes against the Quran teachings But why must a Muslim marry a non Muslim woman... ? Please share some surah or hadith to support Islam position? |
Islam › Re: Is Islam This Good ? by unphilaz(m): 9:01am On Mar 06, 2016 |
SomaliGuy7: Islam is a peaceful religion.
Islam prohibits violence.
Islam does not allow killing any innocent person regardless of his or her beliefs Qur'an 25:63 The worshipers of the Most Gracious are those who tread the earth GENTLY, and when the ignorant speak to them, they only UTTER PEACE. [size=18pt]Vs[/size] Quran 48:29] Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are HARD against the disbelievers and MERCIFUL among themselves...... Explain |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism is Dead : The Logic of God and Everything by unphilaz(m): 8:47am On Mar 06, 2016 |
Make I tanda for here |
Christianity Etc › Re: Almuflihah & Habicab: Women’s Protection Law Is Un-isla.mic by unphilaz(op): 8:44am On Mar 06, 2016 |
DeathStroke007: I can't believe anything a Christian say about Islam. it's not new that you guys do lie.. we Muslims have cleared your lies about Islam several times without number..
A real Muslim or Imam will never do such act..
even if an imam did such, does that. make him right?
anything you see that is odd about Islam, do not ask us.. just go to google and ask if Prophet Muhammad (saw) ever did such.. or what did he say about such matter...
that's what we call education and research.. So Reuters and tribune.pk a Pakistani webpage is lying against Islam or is it the Muslim imam that is lying against Islam... Muslim countries have enough imams and sheiks who understand and follow the sunnah of the prophet of islam. I wonder why it is only nigerian muslims that understand islam more than the arabs and the pakistanis. As a matter of fact, nigeria muslims, especially the yoruba muslim, are considered fake and irrelevant. Deathstroke why do you pack the shi.t of Arabs and Pakistani, they are the true custodian of Islam, and their interpretation of Islam is way above you... All you Nigerian Muslim are doing is try to give a humane view to Islam which shows you are better than mohammed according to wafa sultan |
Christianity Etc › Re: Almuflihah & Habicab: Women’s Protection Law Is Un-isla.mic by unphilaz(op): 8:36am On Mar 06, 2016 |
DeathStroke007: #laughing#... ain't got time to answer your stupid claims.. no be today you dey lie against Islam and Prophet Muhammad (saw).. when you have something worthy of replying, I will answer you.. Interesting topic |
Christianity Etc › Re: Almuflihah & Habicab: Women’s Protection Law Is Un-isla.mic by unphilaz(op): 8:09am On Mar 06, 2016 |
DeathStroke007: aren't you people tired of telling lies against Islam and Muslims?.. if you can't bring proof from Quran or Prophet Muhammad... (saw).. just shut up..
You can only judge Islam by Quran and Prophet Muhammad (saw) .. not some Muslim countries or Muslim clerics.. So death stroke, are you man enof to condemn the Islamic imam for such nonsense against your sisters? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Almuflihah & Habicab: Women’s Protection Law Is Un-isla.mic by unphilaz(op): 8:06am On Mar 06, 2016 |
analice107: Dont you understand? It indeed makes them vulnerable because they won't be raping women and taking it as their right. The shirk talking there is himself a rapist. If that Bill is passed into law, he will be arrested before long, because so many ladies he has raped will cry out. See how people just use this religion as an excuse to commit evil. No wonder and our Muslim and muslimah are to timid to condemn such despicable attitude of their imam. |
Islam › Re: Contradictions In The Quran by unphilaz(m): 10:16pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
truthman2012: It is often said by Christianity critics that the bible is full of contradictions. The bible is the word of God but with statements and comments by various kings and prophets. These human comments or statements are where the critics found their socalled contradictions. They have not been able to point out any error when the prophets say ''Thus saith the Lord''.
The quran is said to be the words or revelations of islamic allah received by a sole prophet, Muhammad. Allah boasted there cannot be discripancies or contradictions in his words (Quran 4:82), but a thorough study of the quran reveals the contrary. For this boast the whole quran is nullified by a single contradiction.
How many trumpets will be blown on Qiyamah?
Two
On the day when the first Trumpet resoundeth And the second followeth it, Qur'an 79:6-7
One only
And when the trumpet shall sound one blast, Qur'an 69:13
For whom is salvation?
For all pious theists
Those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians and the Christians, - any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness,- on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. Qur'an 5:69
For all pious theists
Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians , whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. Qur'an 2:62
For Muslims only
If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good). Qur'an 3:85
For Muslims only
Truly, the religion with Allah is Islam. Those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) did not differ except, out of mutual jealousy, after knowledge had come to them. And whoever disbelieves in the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allah, then surely, Allah is Swift in calling to account.. Qur'an 3:19
Where do disbelievers receive their record book on Judgment day?
Behind their back
But he who is given his Record behind his back Qur'an 84:10
On the left hand
And he that will be given his Record in his left hand, will say: "Ah! Would that my Record had not been given to me! Qur'an 69:25
Can you marry non- Muslims?
No
Do not marry unbelieving women (idolaters), until they believe: A slave woman who believes is better than an unbelieving woman, even though she allures you. Nor marry (your girls) to unbelievers until they believe: A man slave who believes is better than an unbeliever, even though he allures you. Unbelievers do (but) beckon you to the Fire. But Allah beckons by His Grace to the Garden (of bliss) and forgiveness, and makes His Signs clear to mankind: That they may celebrate His praise. Qur'an 2:221
Yes
This day are (all) good things made lawful for you. The food of those who have received the Scripture is lawful for you, and your food is lawful for them. And so are the virtuous women of the believers and the virtuous women of those who received the Scripture before you (lawful for you) when ye give them their marriage portions and live with them in honour, not in fornication, nor taking them as secret concubines. Whoso denieth the faith, his work is vain and he will be among the losers in the Hereafter. Qur'an 5:5
Will Allah reward the good deeds of non-Muslims?
No
It is not for such as join gods with Allah, to visit or maintain the mosques of Allah while they witness against their own souls to infidelity. The works of such bear no fruit: In Fire shall they dwell. Qur'an 9:17
Yes, for all pious theists
Lo! Those who believe (in that which is revealed unto thee Muhammad) and those who are Jews and Christians and Sabaens – whosoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doeth right – surely their reward is with their Lord and there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve. Qur’an 2:62
Yes, for all pious theists
Those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians and the Christians,- ANY WHO BELIEVE in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness,- on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. Qur'an 5:69
How to treat those who do not believe in an afterlife
Be kind
Tell those who believe, to forgive those who do not look forward to the Days of Allah: It is for Him to recompense (for good or ill) each People according to what they have earned. Qur'an 45:14
Be kind
The worshipers of the Most Gracious are those who tread the earth gently, and when the ignorant speak to them, they only utter peace Qur'an 25:63
Attack them
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (EVEN IF THEY ARE ) OF THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. Qur'an 9:29
Let me stop here for now. |
Islam › Re: Why Muslims Cannot Live In Peace With Non-Muslims by unphilaz(m): 10:10pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
TruthHurts1: It just goes to show that MUMUhaMAD or whoever else it was wrote the crookran was confused O abeed rilwayne:
Quran
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran) The verse prior to this (190) refers to "fighting for the cause of Allah those who fight you" leading some to believe that the entire passage refers to a defensive war in which Muslims are defending their homes and families. The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, however, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). Verse 190 thus means to fight those who offer resistance to Allah's rule (ie. Muslim conquest). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is disingenuous (the actual Arabic words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The word used instead, "fitna", can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. This is certainly what is meant in this context since the violence is explicitly commissioned "until religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.
Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."
Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.
Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."
Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').
Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.
Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"
Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."
Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home).Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward " This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is this Arabic word (mujahiduna) used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad, which would not make sense if it meant an internal struggle).
Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?
Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.
Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."
Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion is all for Allah" Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for 2:193). The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals."
Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."
Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."
Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."
Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."
Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars). This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack. Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months). The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat. Once the Muslims had power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.
Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people." Humiliating and hurting non-believers not only has the blessing of Allah, but it is ordered as a means of carrying out his punishment and even "healing" the hearts of Muslims.
Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad". The context is obviously holy war.
Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. Verse 9:33 tells Muslims that Allah has charted them to make Islam "superior over all religions." This chapter was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.
Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"
Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place." This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.
Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew." See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them" This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).
Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination." Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that unbelievers are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.
Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."
Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme." How does the Quran define a true believer?
Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."
Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction." Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction." (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).
Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude." He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son. (Note: This is one reason why honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia. Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.1-2).)
Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"
Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..." "Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context. It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.
Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter." This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers. It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do. If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations.
Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord... So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives)... If it had been Allah's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost." Those who reject Allah are to be killed in Jihad. The wounded are to be held captive for ransom. The only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is to to test the faithfulness of Muslims. Those who kill pass the test.
Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand" for Allah is with you,"
Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom." Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.' Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted? This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.
Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves" Islam is not about treating everyone equally. This verse tells Muslims that there are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status. Also the word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as 'painful' or severe' to describe Hell in over 25 other verses including 65:10, 40:46 and 50:26..
Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His cause" Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to "rows" or "battle array," meaning that it is speaking of physical conflict. This is followed by (61:9), which defines the "cause": "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist." (See next verse, below). Infidels who resist Islamic rule are to be fought.
Quran (61:10-12) - "O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of'Adn- Eternity ['Adn(Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success." This verse refers to physical battle in order to make Islam victorious over other religions (see verse 9). It uses the Arabic root for the word Jihad.
Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end." The root word of "Jihad" is used again here. The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Almuflihah & Habicab: Women’s Protection Law Is Un-isla.mic by unphilaz(op): 9:14pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
lexiconkabir: Mr man, was that what i asked of you, bring a verse that conflicts protecting women as they have claimed, simple! if you dont know anything can you keep mute? He he you claimed my initial post was mushroom, and I updated it with more reliable non mushroom webpage... On the verse you require, pls ask Fazlur Rehman, the chief of one of Pakistan's largest religious parties, the Jamiat-i-Ulema Islam, who in his own wisdom, said the law was in conflict with both Islam and the constitution of Pakistan. What I expect youyou to do is simply say the Islamic dude erred big time and you condemn him and be a better Muslim like wafa sultan suggested.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Almuflihah & Habicab: Women’s Protection Law Is Un-isla.mic by unphilaz(op): 8:23pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
Fazlur Rehman, the chief of one of Pakistan's largest religious parties, the Jamiat-i-Ulema Islam, said the law was in conflict with both Islam and the constitution of Pakistan.
"This law makes a man insecure," he told journalists. "This law is an attempt to make Pakistan a Western colony again."
In 2013, more than 5,800 cases of violence against women were reported in Punjab alone, the province where Wednesday's law was passed, according to the Aurat Foundation, a women's rights advocacy group.
Those cases represented 74 percent of the national total that year, the latest for which data is available. Now fazlur rehman is saying that this law makes men vulnerable not the vulnerable women...hmm |
Christianity Etc › Re: Almuflihah & Habicab: Women’s Protection Law Is Un-isla.mic by unphilaz(op): 8:18pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Almuflihah & Habicab: Women’s Protection Law Is Un-isla.mic by unphilaz(op): 7:17pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
ifenes: ... So is Obama justifying ISIS with what has been relegated to dustbin of history? Except you intend to condon Isis beast today... Yes the past shouldn't define us but ISIS and its affiliate believe ISIS must do according to allahh prophet unlike Christians who believe that Christ peace should prevail and hence you see docility of Christians. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Muslims Curse Jews And Christians 17 Times Each Day As Part Of The Salat by unphilaz(m): 7:07pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU: Atheist also claim that we are all born atheists so there's no difference with Muslims there but as for Christians we believe that we have all been born sinners and through repentance and faith in the gospel of Jesus Christ we can become new creatures. The Son of God became the Son of Man so as to make man become sons of God. Simples.  Kid of a goat is ...goat Puppy of a dog is a ... Dog Son of God is a.... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Muslims Curse Jews And Christians 17 Times Each Day As Part Of The Salat by unphilaz(m): 7:03pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU: Are Muslims justified in their daily cursing of Jews and Christians? Are their curses working?  Let them curse until they die, curse WITHOUT a curse shall not stand... Since am redeemed from the CURSE OF THE LAW in Christ Jesus, whatever their curse, shall not stand... Oh are they following the last words of profat mo before he died....hehehe |