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tartar9:
lol is that not the same name parisbookaddict screams out every night while she's doing her work in Italy? it truly makes knees bow

PureWays:
@Op, If you were ever a true Christian, you should know the answer to your question by now..


It's called "Faith"..
You can't get the answer through logic, that's a medium for Mortality..
It's like wanting to see micro organisms with your bare eyes, you will need to use a magnifying glass in order to achieve that..

The ways of the spirit differs from Logic..

When the Women’s Protection Act was passed in Pakistan’s Punjab province’s regional assembly last month, advocates believed it signaled progress for women’s rights in a region that sees thousands of cases of sexual violence reported each year.


The Pakistani religious body that determines whether provincial or federal laws comply with Islam had a different view: the act — which would create new investigation teams, require GPS trackers for sexual offenders, and require jail time for certain domestic abuse cases — was “un-Islamic.”
“The whole law is wrong,” Muhammad Khan Sherani, head of the Council of Islamic Ideology, said at a news conference Thursday. The influential religious body advises legislators before bills are sworn into law, and its members’ opinions have historically influenced public opinion on proposed bills.


The Women’s Protection Act, which would also create a hotline for victims of sexual and domestic abuse, has been condemned by many right-wing clerics who say it directly conflicts with the Quran. On Thursday, Pakistani Supreme Court lawyer Mohammad Aslam Khaki asked the Federal Shariat Court to label the law as offensive to Islam, Pakistan’s state religion. The court makes final decisions on what does and does not constitute as Islamic.

This is far from the first time a law has been condemned by the Council of Islamic Ideology. In January, it blocked a bill that would establish new, stricter punishment for child marriage. And in an earlier case, it ruled that DNA cannot be used as primary evidence in cases of rape — which has infuriated human rights activists. Instead, it supported a bill that would require any woman accusing a man of rape to provide the court with at least four male witnesses in order to allow the case to move forward.

The council’s decision this January to block a bill to impose harsher penalties for marrying off girls as young as eight or nine also angered human rights activists.

truthman2012:
Quote some passages in the different Bible and let's see if they are not saying the same thing. You should be able to substantiate your claim.

Did I hear you say you want to get married to a Christian? That girl is not a Christian who wants to marry a muslim. That she bears a Christian's name doesn't make her a true Christian.

But why muslim you look for somebody to pollute? There a so many muslim girls looking for husband, you didn't see any of them to marry but an innocent but ignorant girl.

Besides, the quran forbids you to marry a non-muslims, why your interest to violate it?

Qur'an 2:221
Do not marry unbelieving
women (idolaters), until they
believe: A slave woman who
believes is better than an
unbelieving woman, even
though she allures you. Nor
marry (your girls) to
unbelievers until they believe: A
man slave who believes is
better than an unbeliever, even
though he allures you.
Unbelievers do (but) beckon
you to the Fire. But Allah
beckons by His Grace to the
Garden (of bliss) and
forgiveness, and makes His
Signs clear to mankind: That
they may celebrate His praise.

Rilwayne001:
[size=18pt]I have never kill anyone and never will kill... I don't believe in death for apostate as well, the quran is clear on that...[/size] That she would marry me? The fkkkk.. Do you think every other Christians are dumb like you?

Fyi: I am getting married to either truthman2012's daughter or that notorious plappville

INJESUSNAME:
Ye, there is negative influence and there is positive influence. If your followers imitate you and they cannot impact the world positively, you are negative, a bad, and evil influence.

johnydon22:
I would pick Jesus teachings over muhammeds teachings any time any day...

I will even pick Jesus teaching over yahweh's any time any day...

Lolzzz seriously Jesus was kinda of a humanist ....

and that beautiful pearl that can be said to be the diamond in a pile of stones is that one little verse in the bible...
[size=20] Love your neighbour as you love yourself [/size]other part of that book is total wack...

parisbookaddict:
Here are 25 interesting but important differences..
1.
Jesus says; "Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself." (Matthew 5:14)
Muhammad said "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who
disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every
fingertip of them." (Qur'an 8:12)
" Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in
Allah." Muhammad (Ibn Ishaq 992)
2
Jesus says God loves everyone.(John 3:16)
Muhammad said Allah does not love those who reject Islam. (Qur'an
30:45, 3:32, 22:38)
3
Jesus says "He who lives by the sword will die by the sword." (Matthew
26:52)
Muhammad said "I have been commanded to fight against people till
they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is the
messenger of Allah" (Muslim 1:33)
4
Jesus stops the stoning of an adulterous woman and says “Let he who is
without sin cast the first stone."(John 8:7)
Muhammad said Stone women for adultery.(Muslim 4206)
5
Jesus and God, the father says "Thou shalt not steal." (Matthew 19:18)
(Exodus 20:15; Deuteronomy 5:19)
Muhammad allows stealing from unbelievers. (Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq
764)
6
Jesus says "Thou shalt not bear false witness." (Matthew 19:18)
Muhammad Permitted lying, deceit and al taqyyiah. (Sahih Muslim 6303,
Bukhari 49:857)
7
Muhammad Owned and traded slaves. (Sahih Muslim 3901)
Jesus neither owned nor traded slaves.
8
Muhammad beheaded 600 to 900 Jewish men and boys (Sahih Muslim
4390)
Jesus healed the sick, feed the hungry and gave life to the dead.
9
Jesus preached forgiveness and peace. (Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38) and
says "If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other
also." (Matthew 5:39)
Muhammad preached retaliations and murdered those who insulted him.
(Bukhari 56:369, 4:241) and said "If then anyone transgresses the
prohibition against you, Transgress ye likewise against him" (Qur'an
2:194)
10
Jesus says "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called Sons of
God" (Matthew 5:9)
Muhammad said Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in
Paradise by a hundred fold. (Muslim 4645)
11
Jesus was celibate. He conquered this carnal human body.
Muhammad Married 13 wives and kept numerous sex slaves.
(Bukhari 5:268, Qur'an 33:50)
12
Muhammad slept with a 9-year-old child. (Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari
58:236)
Need I say more
13
Jesus saved a woman from being stoned for adultery, he also healed
several women from sickness etc
Muhammad ordered the murder of women. (Ibn Ishaq 819, 995)
.
14
Jesus says "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.
"(Matthew 5:5)
Muhammad said "O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who
are near to you and let them find in you hardness." (Qur'an 9:123)
15
Jesus ordered no military campaigns, nor offered any approval of war or
violence.
Muhammad Ordered 65 military campaigns and raids in his LAST 10
years. (Ibn Ishaq )
16
Muhammad Killed captives taken in battle.(Ibn Ishaq 451),-hope u
remember about the 900 jews boys and women who opposed him etc
Jesus never killed anyone nor asked for the killing of anyone.
15
Muhammad encouraged his men To Molest enslaved women. (Abu Dawood
2150, Qur'an 4:24)
Jesus never encouraged rape and never enslaved women.
16
Muhammad lived like a king and demanded captured slaves and a fifth
of all other loot taken in war.(Qur'an 8:41)
Jesus says "The Son of Man came not to be served, but to
serve." (Matthew 20:28)
17
Muhammad was never tortured, but tortured others. (Muslim 4131, Ibn
Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764)
Jesus suffered torture, but never tortured anyone.
18
Muhammad said "And fight them until there is no more persecution and
religion is only for Allah" (Qur'an 8:39)
Jesus says "Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute
you" (Matthew 5:44)
19
Jesus healed a blind man (Mark 8:28)
Muhammad blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man (al-Tabari
1440)
20
Muhammad Ordered a slave to build the very pulpit from which he
preached Islam. (Bukhari 47:743)
Jesus washed his disciples feet. (John 13:5)
21
Jesus says the Greatest Commandment is "Love God and love thy
neighbor as thyself." (Matthew 22:34-40)
Muhammad’s greatest Commandments? "Belief in Allah and Jihad in His
cause" (Muslim 1:149)
22
Muhammad demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a
house of worship (Qur'an 4:102)
Jesus chastised anyone attempting to defend him with force. (John
18:10-12)
23
Jesus demanded nothing for himself and Died without possessions.
Muhammad got fat, was poisoned by a woman whom he collected her
goat meat and ate, suffered for 4 years and then died, a wealthy man
from what was taken from others in war or demanded from others in
tribute.
24
Jesus was crucified himself.
Muhammad advocated crucifying others.
(Qur'an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131)



and finally,


25
I want you to recall their dying words…..who looks like he died with hate
in his heart and who looks like he died with love in his.
Lets take a look;
Jesus said , “Father forgive them, for they know not what they are
doing.” Luke 23:34:

While Muhammad spoke the following words while dying, “ May Allah
curse the Jews and Christians.” Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 8, Number
427:
Narrated ‘Aisha and ‘Abdullah bin ‘Abbas: When the last moment of the
life of Allah’s Apostle came he started putting his ‘Khamisa’ on his face
and when he felt hot and short of breath he took it off his face and
said , “May Allah curse the Jews and Christians for they built the places
of worship at the graves of their Prophets.”


Muslims don't believe that Jesus paid the price for the sins of those who
accept his message and also accept him as lord and savior (Christians)
but yet their hadith teaches them this;
Sahih Muslim 6666--Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: No
Muslim would die but Allah would admit in his stead a Jew or a Christian
in Hell-Fire.
And this,
Sahih Muslim 6668--Allah's Messenger [said]: There would come people
amongst the Muslims on the Day of Resurrection with as heavy sins as a
mountain, and Allah would forgive them and He would place in their
stead the Jews and the Christians.
I have to warned Muslims that Christians and Jews can't take away their
sins. . We don't have that power. they were lied to.
Only Christ can do this, only he can take sins away.

Preach the gospel and highlight these differences(if it is safe to todo so) when u interact with Muslims. .

true2god:
There is a serios mysogyny in Islam. Islam is an enemy to reasonable women. In islam, if a woman is raped it is not the fault of the man that raped the woman but the fault of the woman that was raped.

In islam, a woman need a four witness to proove that she was raped.

In islam, the testimony of a woman is half of a man in a law court.

In islam, a girl as young as 6 can be married to a man of 51.

In real islam, a woman can never walk alone on the street without being escorted by a man who might be her husband, brother, father, uncle or even her son.

In real islam, a woman cannot travel alone.

In islam, a woman must not let her hair be seen in public. In iran, such a woman can get an acid bath for exposing her hair in the public.

In islam, you can hardly see a woman self-made millionaire. It is impossible in saudi arabia, iran, pakistan, sudan, etc to see a rich muslim woman. The last rich muslim woman was khadija, mohammed millionaire wife who was 15 years older than mohammed.

misreal:
hello,i just noticed no muslim is actually able to answer these questions.all i can see are ppl hiding under insults to defend their religion.one question that has been repeated without any answer is,"why cant a muslim convert to christianity in saudi arabia without being killed?l

facheux:
All those slutty xtian whores getting abortions are starting to have an impact.

analice107:
My dear, the link k to that book is here, try and read it. You'll shutter at what you'll read.

One case about one of her patients.
A woman named Fatima came to the Clinic vomiting, after examination, it was revealed she was three months pregnant. When she was told, she collapsed on a chair and began to shudder, smacking her face, and shriek "I beg you Doctor, I beg you to rescue me from this mess, my son will kill me, I don't care if I die, I deserve to die, but I don't want my son to dirty his ands wit my blood.
" What is it Fatima" I asked.
I'm a Widow, my husband died five years ago and left me with 4 children, my HUSBAN'S BROTHER RAPES ME EVERY DAY IN EXCHANGE FOR FOOD FOR MY CHILDREN.
If he knows am pregnant, he will force my son to kill me, rather than expose them to public shame.
"How old is your son?" I asked.
Fifteen. She said. He is too young. I don't want him to dirty his hands with my blood.
I sent her to see a gynecologist, when she came back two weeks later, she was looking guant and haggard and ill;
What is it Fatima? I asked her.
I came to thank you, I got the Fetus out, but I saw the angel of death with my own eyes, they did the operation without anesthesia, and the pain of it almost killed me.
Why, I asked.
I don't have enough money so the doctor operated on me without it.

Wafa_Sultan.

The rate of cover up abortions in the Islamic world is alarming. But because they speak Arabic and lives in enclosed societies, they lie to the world, and call the Western world corrupt. I have never come across a people like this. Talk about hypocrisy.

I think one of the reasons why Muslim men marry their wives as kids is because, they are mindful of the fact that fathers, brothers and male relatives usually sleeps with their girls before giving them away for marriage.

Patching up private parts to be tight as virgins is very common in Islamic world.
Any unlocky one whose mother did nothing to verify before marriage, gets stoned as a prostitute. Meanwhile, most of the time, the man who calls for her stoning is the same man who has been sexually assaulting her, amongst those stoning her, stands three to four family members who have been raping her from a very tender age. Her mum knows, but none of them will dare say a word. because if she must talk, she most produce four adult men who witnessd the rape.
Shey if a man wants to rape a woman, he will call umpires, who will watch and keep score.
Allahh is Wicked.

analice107:
My dear that's the truth.
Islam was shrouded in Arabic language and in closed up societies, so that no non Muslim knew what was going on inside. Now the Internet is their waterloo.
They accused Christian women of immoral conducts, but their women are the worst off. At least we do it openly, and any lady who is like that, everybody gets to know them to be like that, but in Islam every body covers up and pretends.


Their clothing however, was not the only thing that was shocking, Normally staid, the women become voracious. I had never seen anything like it in my life. Women would go up to one another and touch each other in an unnatural manners, such as pinching a bottom or a beast, or putting a hand between thighs. None of them surprised by this behaviour, nor did anyone protest against it.

Wafa-Sultan.
Those islamic women wear provocative clothes inside those masquerades you see them use to cover their iniquities. When inside, they bare open themselves and act so inappropriately sexually.


Deciet is the master tool of Satan.
I will continue to say it. Allahh is Satan, Muhammed was his agent, Islam is his instrument of harvest.

Brown47:
I won't entrust him/her to someone who said he came to set fathers against there sons, daughters against there mothers, and one who allowed wild wolves(or foxes i dnt know) to kill 40 children just because his prophet request it.

Neither will i entrust him/her to a sickend ... for child sex abuse.

ifenes:
The fictional character happened to have done a good job keeping its followers in line with the agenda. I salute the cult who created them.[s] Do you really believe Mohamed flew on a horse or Jesus rose from the dead after 3 days dead?[/s]

ifenes:
The fictional character happened to have done a good job keeping its followers in line with the agenda. I salute the cult who created them.[s] Do you really believe Mohamed flew on a horse or Jesus rose from the dead after 3 days dead?[/s]

LoJ:
Of course sexual relationships with children, underaged or without the consent of the partner, is very wrong. However I am not very sure about the point the OP is trying to make.

Do you want people to believe in the Biblical* Jesus, because he is more moral than the coranic* Muhamad? Or do you want to prove that christianity as a religion is more moral than Islam?

What if a person considers Captain America as more moral than both? Should he also believe in Him? Should the crimes and extermination of the old testament be also taken into account in evaluating christendom?

Please, explain to us, what point you are trying to make.

*Biblical and coranic: It is not certain that the lives of Jesus and muhamad as reported by the Bible the koran and other religious books are consistent with objective history.

Brown47:
So you see a problem with this god but failed to recognise the flaws in your own god concept just because its yours. that this your all-powerfull and omini omini god of yours will reward you with haven if you do good just to worship him forever day-in-day out. But why will this god demand, beseech worship and praise from inferior humans like you of which you didn't even worth a single dust compared to the powerfull characters you attributed to him.

I don't know who's concept among you is blasphemous to the concept of Divine Holiness but i must say just use thesame sense and logic you access this god on your own god concept, then thats where you will laugh at yourself.

Blackfire:
the story of the prostitute who people gathered to stone comes to mind.. Before they will stone her before this man /entity ,they ask him what he ve to say... Should they go ahead or not (now if u accuse the woman of adultery of immoral life, my simple question is where is the man/men?).
Now this beautiful entity.. Look up and ask them, if any of u ve not committed this same evil that warrant stone-ing , pick up the stone and do the needful, from the big to the small shamefully disappeared.. Leaving the woman all alone, this beauty look up , no more stone-ing crowd, only there stones and the woman, 'where are your killers'; so he said this beautiful words that cuts to the heart, 'neither do i condemn u, BUT go and sin no more'.

If i ever change my mind tomorrow to follow or belief in a god... That is the personality i will follow.

I am blackfire, asalamu alaiykum.

Humblebloke:
....... Don't you have any other fictional character I could choose from


I don't like any of the two fictional characters in the OP........

ifenes:
She ask me a question about god,and I gave a reply. I understand the thread is not about god. But I think this thread is only trying to paint Islam bad. Yes Islam is bad,same as Christianity.

ifenes:
I don't recognize a god like you do. God is a creation to control humans.

Humblebloke:
Give me another option......

Demmzy15:
This Christians are set of miserable losers, look at how they're quoting each other. Lemme make this fact clear to you all; no matter how you lambast or cry about Islam, it'll continue to grow. Islam is the fastest growing religion in terms of conversion and mortality rate, accept this fact. As clearly shown by the PEW Research, Islam would have the largest amount of adherents before the end of this century, I pray most of you are alive by them so as you can die of heartattack when you hear the news.

Nauzubillah, you should all pray so as God can show you the true way before you all die, because if you die without believing in Islam, hell is your home till eternity. You've been warned, Allaah won't punish those which no Warners came to them, but you in which the truth was made plain to you, Wallahi you'll be punished.

You're warned!

TruthHurts1:
Thank goodness these views are from a Muslim woman:

Saudi journalist, Nadine Al-Budair who lives in Qatar, penned an article in the Kuwaiti daily Al-Rai in which she wondered how Muslims would have acted if Christians had blown themselves up in their midst or tried to force their faith on them.

She presented the hypothetical question while calling on the Muslim world to be introspective and enact reforms, instead of condemning Western attitudes towards it.

“Imagine a Western youth coming here and carrying out a suicide mission in one of our public squares in the name of the Cross. Imagine that two skyscrapers had collapsed in some Arab capital, and that an extremist Christian group, donning millennium-old garb, had emerged to take responsibility for the event, while stressing its determination to revive Christian teachings or some Christian rulings, according to its understanding, to live like in the time [of Jesus] and his disciples, and to implement certain edicts of Christian scholar,” she wrote, according to a translation of the article by the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI).



“Imagine hearing the voices of monks and priests from churches and prayer houses in and out of the Arab world, screaming on loudspeakers and levelling accusations against Muslims, calling them infidels, and chanting: ‘God, eliminate the Muslims and defeat them all.’”

“Imagine that we had provided an endless number of foreign groups with visas, ID cards, citizenships, proper jobs, free education, free modern healthcare, social security, and so on, and later a member of one of these groups came out, consumed by hatred and bloodlust, and killed our sons on our streets, in our buildings, in our newspaper [offices], in our mosques and in our schools.”

“Imagine a Frenchmen or a German in Paris or Berlin leading his Muslim neighbor [somewhere] in order to slaughter him and then freeze his head in an ice box, in a cold and calculating manner… as one terrorist did with the head of an American in Riyadh years ago.”

She was referring to American engineer Paul Marshall Johnson, who was abducted and beheaded by Al-Qaeda operatives in Saudi Arabia in 2004. His severed head was found in an ice box in a Riyadh apartment approximately one month later.

“Imagine that we visited their country as tourists and they shot at us, blew up car bombs near us, and announced their opposition to our presence [there] by chanting: ‘Remove the Muslims from the land of culture.’”

“These images are far from the mind of the Arab or Muslim terrorist because he is certain, or used to be certain, that the West is humanitarian and that the Western citizen would refuse to respond [in this manner] to the barbaric crimes [of the Muslim terrorists]. Despite the terrorist acts of Al-Qaeda and ISIS [the Islamic State], we [Muslims] have been on [Western] soil for years without any fear or worry. Millions of Muslim tourists, immigrants, students, and job seekers [travel to the West] with the doors open [to them], and the streets safe [for them].”

“However, how much longer [will this last]? Today things are different. [Western] anger [at Muslims] is apparent, and they make scary declarations.”

“It is strange that we [Muslims] believe we have the right to condemn such statements rather than address the implications of some of our extremist curricula, our education, and our regimes, and be ashamed [of them]… It is strange that we condemn [the West] instead of addressing what is happening in our midst – the extremist ways in which we interpret the shari’a and our reactionary attitudes towards each other and the world. It is strange that we condemn instead of apologizing to the world.”

“How would you react if a European blew up a theater in your city or a café that your son frequents? What would you do if you heard curses against your religion and faith every Sunday, as they hear [against theirs] from some of our imams on Fridays and other days?

“Imagine being in Amsterdam, London, or New York and knowing that students [there] learn as part of their curricula that you are an infidel, and that killing you is jihad that leads to the virgins of paradise. Would you extend your stay there to the end of the summer, or stay away? [Would you] blow yourself up [as the Muslim terrorists do], or would you do less than that: [Merely] conquer your rage and demand to ban Christians from entering Arab countries. What would you do?

“[Imagine] the war that would break out had Westerners shed their values in the face of the bloody crimes committed by foreigners, and if Western or Christian counter-radicalism had emerged in our Arab cities?

“After all these farces, some Arab analyst comes out touting a pathetic message, and reciting the same words in his friend’s ear that he has repeated millions of times: ‘Those [Muslims who commit terrorism] do not represent Islam, but only themselves.’

“This is all we [know how to do] – absolve [ourselves] of guilt.”

By: United with Israel Staff
(With files from MEMRI)

tartar9:
is denmark an Islamic state? why are the politicians angry.

ifenes:
none

Iyamar:
Congrats Toke mankiwa. Check My own makeup o maybe someone will call me also. I am beautiful