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My brother, you are not even asked to attend church in the first place. What you are given is the Sabbath, to make it holy.

If you no gree, check your bible!

And so what did she want the Canadian Parliament to do?

Would a Canadian or an American drag his country before Nigerian Assemble, no matter what they did?

These stupid celebrities don't even understand polities, and disgracing themselves before foreign governments. I don't blame them sha! All they know is drug, sex and flaunting themselves!

YouAreFinished:
Notice people of uncouth and vile characters are the most die-hard trump supporters.

They are all birds of the same feather!

Why didn't FFK give the same advice to his boss Johnathan when he was defeated in 2015?

I will see where you would put your face the day he is leaving office!
America is not Africa!

Please is Joe Biden a Bhudist?
It seems Christianity is more of hypocrisy than reality!

Xmuslim:
tell your Allah to stop the creation. He's a failure.

According to an hadith only 1 out of 1000 human will májẹ it to paradise. I don't know another definition of a failure.

It is you that is a failure!

When in life, 1 out of million humans become billionaires, does that impute failure to the rest?
You didn't see any fault in life tendencies, but always want to hold God responsible for your failures and frustrations in life!

As you struggle for the goodness of life, so you shall struggle more for the goodness of paradise! If things in life are not free, how should the hereafter be?

You better find something meaningful than propagating atheism! It has no chance against God or religion, as far as Islam is concern. Islam will surely prevail over the entire humanity. Our beloved prophet prophesized it and we are already seeing the trend.
Look at how mosques and Islam is gradually spreading over Europe and America! Who will believed Islam would gain such a widespread acceptance in lands that only hear about 'Islam' in the early last century?

That is the handwork of God. Whatever Allah wish, it come to pass irrespective of the desperate attempt of your type and the media to demonized Islam and God. It is a wasteful venture. They are paying you in waste my brother! You are free to accept Islam or not. But don't fight a battle you can't win!

Allahu Akbar!!!

[quote author=wildikeman post=95732606]Man na WA o... Meddling in whose affair... They didn't meddle in Saudi Arabia and or gulf oil rich it's this other people they just chose to meddle with.

So you still haven't read about the ottoman empire and the atrocities abi.. You haven't read about the transatlantic slave trade.


Let me tell you.. What has the world wars got to do with religion... Was it perpetuated by the Christians or nation's against the nations...? Abeg read na.

Somebody is killing in the name of an Allah and the other is fighting for the reason of taking over a country for secular reasons is a different thing...

Now let's talk about the here and now. You Muslims should leave Christian countries alone and mind your country. And when you see a Christian don't allow him or her in. It's that simple.

Kill someone and shout Allah Akbar and you justify that.. You guys are insane] [quote]My brother, American interest in the Saudi Arabia and Gulf region is to steal their oil wells as much as possible. That is why they don't allow any insecurity there that would affect their business.

As for the ottoman empire, probably you want to say the Roman or Byzantine empire which carried out military activities on behalf of the Pope. Please give me evidence of Ottoman atrocities, and go and check the Massacre of millions of millions of men, women and children of Netherland by the Catholic church in 1550s, just because they disagree on some beliefs of Christianity!

For the world wars, it shows the violent mentality of the christian nations. Christian German soldiers brutally wiped out over six million Jews. Italy perpetrated similar violence on the axis side, whereas the Pope is in their midst. So what does not have to do with religion?
It is just a fulfilment of a biblical statement : "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I come not to send peace, but a sword" (Matthew 10:34).

Christian forces occupied the Africa, Asia and America in the name of colonial conquests, to plunder their resources and enforce Christianity, using an organized class of church missionary societies. You should instead asked Christan NATO forces and Multinational oil and exploration companies to leave Muslim lands.

Islam has done its best, and we are still peaceful to those with pure motives!

Thanks brother!

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wildikeman:
Haha haha... The jihad wasn't a major world conflict abi. The complete take over of the Middle East wasn't abi.
They chained my ancestors and yet I'm still in Africa... I know you will not understand that part. And without Christian Europe you will likely be a slave today.. Ask your prophet... You this Abid.

Joshua and the likes are also in the Quran so what are you saying.. Hitler and Stalin didn't kill people in the name of the Lord na....


How do you read comprehend anything sef.


My take is this and please don't deviate from it...


MUSLIMS SHOULD LEAVE CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES ALONE AND STAY IN THEIR OWN SPHER OF THE WORLD. SIMPLE. WHETHER YOU KILL YOURSELVES OR NOTBIS NOT ANYONE'S BUSINESS

The jihads had not caused one percent of the damage done by Christian forces in a world war!

Besides, The middle east crisis was caused and perpetrated by the same devilish Christians forces of America, Britain, France and Russia. Or,

Was Afghanistan not a peaceful country before the Americans invaded them in 2001 and trouble started?
Was Iraq not a progressive country before the Americans invaded them in 2003 and trouble started?
Was Libya not a rich and progressive country before the Americans instigate them to war and freely give them weapons?
Was Syria not a peaceful country before the Americans instigate them into rebellion and also give them arms?

Then who is deceiving who? Both the terrorists and their American arms suppliers are collaborators are all one! Try to reason with your brain and stopped being fooled by the media!

Lastly, Let Christians and Christian forces leave the Muslims and stop meddling in their affairs. Let America and NATO withdraw their forces from the middle east, and Muslims will be peaceful again!

Thanks!

Xmuslim:
even if I bring the evidence, you will twist it or reject my interpretation. You can only learn if you are willing to throw away your indoctrination. Only normal people devoid of indoctrination can see through the lies in the religion (all of them).

Again, go and learn why religions are fallacies. Stop waiting for me to bring the knowledge to you. Internet is your friend. I can only guide you if you are willing to undertake the challenge.

Religions may be fallacies, depending on the religion you are exposed to.
The corruption of the bible and the teachings of Christianity, is what breed Atheism and secularism in Europe and america. Christianity fails because God would not support lies in his name, or in the name of his noble prophets (Jesus in particular).

However, Islam and the Qur'an is a lasting challenge to humanity of all beliefs and times.
If you think Allah is not the creator of all things, then tell us where they come from!
If you think Allah is not the creator of life, then he challenge you to create even a FLY!
If you think the Qur'an is a fable, then Allah challenge you to bring a like of it!
And you can even seek the support of your fellow atheists, scientists, and even devils!

Thanks!

Xmuslim:
I was fooled to thank God for his blessings including oxygen. But now I have realised that I don't have to. He should not have created me if he cannot give me basics needs.

Then when he create you and gives you basic needs, why you no longer have to?

It is now you are fooling yourself in your own imagination, not before!

wildikeman:
Read history... Stalin was an atheist. And Hitler was also an atheist. Both men brought up in a Christian background but were athiest. Read.. Trust me your brain would not implode.

Stalin and Hitler are atheists? That is a forged excuse Christians are using to cleanse their conscience.

Are the millions of brutal German and Russians soldiers atheists too?
Are the Americans that brutally wiped out the innocent Hiroshima and Nagasaki atheists too?
Are the British and American fighter pilots that wiped out whole cities atheists too?
Are the American and Europeans slave traders that chain your ancestors like animals atheists too?

Please go to your Gospels of war, especially the Book of Joshua, and see the contribution of Bible to wars, genocides and massacres!

At least Islam and Muslims have not caused a major world conflict (talkless of world wars)!

Thanks!

wildikeman:
Hitler and Stalin didn't kill people saying Allah Akbar you slowpoke.

Leave the Christian world alone you this dirty good for nothing smelling blood thirsty shiits...

Fucck Muhammad the blood thirsty pedophile

It doesn't matter what they said. At least they are evidences of Christian brutality and barbaricity!
Sparing neither men, women, young or old! Shame!

wildikeman:
Cured people and have given u a phone that u are using to type this rubbish.. Including the ones ur terrorist brothers are using to kill themselves and others

And is it science that give you the face and hand you are using to type nonsense?

You and those terrorists are one in mentality. You would even be worse than them if you had the opportunity. After all, Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin are not Muslims, but people like you that hate God and Humanity!

Xmuslim:
that's in the past. You guys can't handle the truth. Go and study on your own. Allah, hell, Islamic paradise are all imaginaries. Muhammad didn't bring his message from any supreme being. All are fallacies.

It is now left for you to prove him wrong!

Xmuslim:
else he will roast me in fire forever right? That alone is enough reason to throw Allah in the dustbin of history.

Allah can't convince me with explicit evidence. All he can do is to thrèathen me with eternal hell. Is that not ridiculous

Some people deserve the punishment!

Do you know the financial cost of staying on artificial oxygen in the hospital for a day?

Yet, you freely breath natural oxygen for 20, 30, 40, 60, 80 years or more, and you are still ungrateful!
Then, why wouldn't Allah punish your type in hell!

Xmuslim:
my time is precious. The responsibility is on you to go and read what non muslims write about Islam and try to verify and justify their points without bias.

Islam go against science
It contradict common sense
It describe God as evíl
Allah could not preserve Qur'an as he promised in the Qur'an
Lots of contradictions in the Hadiths and Qur'an
Islam encourages Muslims to hate non Muslims
It seems to have been created for the benefit of Muhammad
And many more

Your time should not be precious for important things!

You only only mention points without citing evidences. How do I believe that you are not lying?

Xmuslim:
Well, Science has proven some of your Allah's claim false.

Science now do what your Allah cannot do

1. Allah Created Millions of species of organisms. Has science created even a fly from nothing? They would only pick an existing cell for engineering and called it "Cloning".

2. Look at your own self! Are a product of Science or an handwork of amazing nature?

a word is enough for the wise!

wildikeman:
Cured people and have given u a phone that u are using to type this rubbish.. Including the ones ur terrorist brothers are using to kill themselves and others

I don't understand your point. Please explain!

Xmuslim:
that's in the past. You guys can't handle the truth. Go and study on your own. Allah, hell, Islamic paradise are all imaginaries. Muhammad didn't bring his message from any supreme being. All are fallacies.

Provide your evidence!

What of the North-South breakdown for Lagos Camp?

before we should complain, let's see the composition of Lagos camp. It might be South-dominated.

Xmuslim:
Well, Science has proven some of your Allah's claim false.

Science now do what your Allah cannot do

Please mention some of what science has done and Allah cannot!
we await your response!

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dalass:
Happy Sunday to all Nairalanders.

Congratulations to us all. By God's special grace, we're seeing the last Sunday in July despite all the evil happenings all over. To God be the glory!

Sabbath is biblical and observed by Jews from sun down on Friday till sundown on Saturday.

It was ordained by God as the day in which He rested after creating the heaven and earth in six days.

Sabbath was really made by God for mankind because God

- Does not sleep or slumber He doesn't get tired like we do. He's a Spiritual supernatural being. We are flesh and we get tired, hence we do need rest.
- God wants a day to have us to Himself without the distractions that trading or other activities bring into worship.
- Every living thing God made needs to rest to avoid breaking down.
- There is a place of rest in God spiritually that we need to enter for our own peace of mind. It is possible to lay down and try to sleep but if your spirit/ mind is not at rest ( busy or worried) you won't sleep!

Do you observe Sabbath?
Which day do you observe yours? (Friday Saturday or Sunday)
Why do you worship or rest on that particular day of the week?
Have churches been opened in your State?

Do have a wonderful Sunday!

Sabbath is not only made for the Jews!
It was made for both Jews and Christians as well!

Why?

The fourth commandment is the observation of Sabbath.
Exodus {20:8} "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy."

If the Ten Commandments are eternal laws, why would Christians exclude one (Sabbath) and still claim to be the followers of the "Ten Commandments"?
The Christians should called it " 9 Commandments" instead!

Remember the Bible tell us that God's laws are eternal!
“All your words are true; all your righteous laws are eternal.” (Psalm 119:160 )

Jesus also tell us that he didn't come to change laws, but to fulfill!
Matthew 5:17 “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.”
Matthew 5:18-19 “For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

Therefore if Jesus didn't come to change the laws, How would Christians that come latter change those laws and still claim to be righteous?

Jesus observed the Sabbath day!
Matthew 12:8 "For the Son of Man is lord of the sabbath."

Even St Paul and all the disciples observe the Sabbath day!
Acts 16:13 ; 17:2 ; 18:4 ; 19:8

The disciples were all in isolation throughout Saturday, following Jesus crucifixion. Mary Magdalene and other women only went early to his grave on Sunday morning after the Sabbath has pass. Why didn't they went there on Saturday?
The simple answer is because they were observing the Sabbath day!

It is time for Christians to begin to have a critical rethink of many of their practices.

The Bible tell us that Jesus would deny a lot of people on judgment Day, because they didn't follow the commandments!

Thanks!

QuantumR:
Truth be told, i'm born a muslim and in all honesty, i find it difficult to flow with anything quoted from hadiths.. Point number 3 is odd. Islam mayb an Arab affair...

I will advice this writer to seek Allah's Guidance and also to seek for knowledge.
This is always the result when somebody know little or nothing about the faith he claim to practice.
Being a Muslim is not enough, but knowing what Islam.

The prophet (peace be upon him) said:
"Whosoever Allah wish goodness for, he grant him the comprehension of the deen (religion)"

It is now left for us to compete for that goodness, just as we struggle for our material life.

Saying that Islam is an Arab affair, is like saying that Christianity is an Israeli affairs. Why? because Jesus is born, live and die as an Israelite and among Israelites.
So, the fact that Muhammad live and die as an Arab didn't mean that Islam is an Arab affair.

Islam is a universal message. That is why Allah frequently address in the Qur'an as "O Mankind" He never said "O Arabs"

May Allah guide and safeguard our faith!

chuose2:
Mohammed was not given a promise of salvation,
neither him nor his followers have a promise of salvation

Surah 46:9
Say, "I am not something original among the messengers,
nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. "

Jesus promised salvation to whoever believes in Him

John 6:47
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.



neither was Mohammed given the ability to perform miracles,
So becos of that allah hates the blind & deaf

SURA 8:22
Lo! the WORST OF BEASTS in Allah's sight are the deaf, the dumb,

Jesus healed people which was not given to Mohammed

Matthew 15
29 And Jesus departed from thence, and came nigh unto the sea of Galilee; and went up into a mountain, and sat down there.

[30] And great multitudes came unto him, having with them those that were LAME, BLIND, DUMB, MAIMED, and many others, and cast them down at Jesus' feet;
and HE HEALED THEM:

My first question to this person is:
Did Jesus performed all these miracles by his own will? NO!

Jesus himself said:
• "… I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me …" John. 5:30.

• "...I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things. And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him." John 8:28-29

Even the disciples and multitudes understand that the miracles performed by Jesus are from God! This is what Peter said:
• "…ye men of Israel, hear these words, Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know …"Acts. 2:22.

Therefore performing miracles are not sign of any Divinity.

Secondly, the writer alleged that Prophet Muhammad didn't perform any miracle!
Not performing miracles does not invalidate prophethood.
John the Baptist was a great prophet even in the Bible. Yet he didn't perform any miracle. Jesus even praise John the Baptist that:
"…among those born of Woman, hath no risen one greater than John the Baptist.." Matthew. 11:11.

It is also interested to know that we Muslims are not seekers after miracles. We seek after truth and not miracles. Besides, the miracles you desire to see is in you and around you.

Allah says in the Qur'an 29:50-51;
" And they say: Why are not signs (miracles) sent down upon him from his Lord? Say: signs are with Allah only, and I am but a plain warner.
Is it not enough for them that We have sent down unto thee the Scripture which is read unto them? Lo! herein verily is mercy, and a reminder for folk who believe."

Lastly, the writer also claimed to have received Salvation from Jesus!
Please note that salvation is only attained by Righteousness, not by the alleged death of Jesus on the Cross!
Jesus himself said:
• "…For I say unto you, that EXCEPT your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the Scribes and the Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven…" Matt. 5:20.

Jesus clearly said that salvation is based only on righteousness and not his death.
So how can you be as righteous as the scribes and Pharisees when you don't follow the commandments?

Please don't deceive yourself even if your preachers are deceiving you! Nothing is free in life! not even salvation. you have to earn it. Don't join the queue of those whom Jesus would denied on judgment day!

"…Know ye the truth as it is the truth which shall make you free …" John 8:32.

Jesus came to fulfill the laws of Moses and not to establish a new religion.

He observed the Sabbath day, worship and even taught in synagogue. That is more than enough evidence of his Judaic faith.

if that didn't convince you, then show me where Christianity is mentioned in the Bible?

The Word "Christ" is a Greek word meaning "anointed".
If Christ is a Greek word, then " Christianity " is unknown to Jesus because Jesus is not a Greek person!

Beside, Jesus is a JEW and never came to establish any new religion.
"...There cometh a woman of Samaria to draw water: Jesus said unto her, Give me to drink…Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, how is it that thou, BEING A JEW, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria?...” John. 4:6-10.

Christianity, both in word and as Religion is unknown to the Bible. Jesus is a Jew and he observe Sabbath Day and also teach in Synagogues (as we see all over the Bible).
He also said:
Matthew 5:17 “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.”

If the doctrine of the Trinity is correct- and the church does indeed declare that it is the most important theological teaching of Christianityï then why did it take over 350 years for Christians to figure it out? This long history of the development of the doctrine of the Trinity makes it suspicious, suggesting that this teaching is of men and not of God.

We allege that the doctrine of the Trinity is confusing, contradictory, irrational, unbiblical, and thus wrong. The church has defended its Trinitarianism against these allegations mostly by claiming it is a mystery that humans can't understand. But this foolish admission renders those church fathers who formulated it as not understanding it either! Moreover, this defense can be applied to any false teaching.

Trinitarianism does not represent the beliefs of the Christians of the first century. Furthermore, we think those Jewish Christians were strict monotheists who had never heard of the notion that their one God consists of three persons. Nor did they believe in the so-called Incarnation - the preexisting God the Son coming down from heaven to become the man Jesus.

Jesus said in John 17:3
"Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God , and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent."

Notice how the Father is being referred to as THE ONLY TRUE GOD.

How is it possible for the Father to be the ONLY true God, while at the same time the Son and Holy Spirit are God as well? If the Son and Holy Spirit are God as well, then it is false to say that the Father is the ONLY true God.

Thus, in light of John 17:3 we see that the concept of Trinity is logically incoherent. It is not simply a matter of it being beyond our logic, but AGAINST our logic. If it is AGAINST our logic then that means that it is a false belief.

GOD is ONE in both Essence and Person!

It is always surprising to see the way many Christians quickly parade about the miracles performed by Jesus (peace be upon him). But what they failed to asked themselves is that:

Did Jesus performed these miracles by himself or by the will of God?

The Bible answers our question:

• John 5:19 “Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.”

• "… I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me …" John. 5:30.

• "…ye men of Israel, hear these words, Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know …"Acts. 2:22.

These verses are clearly telling us that Jesus powers do not belong to him, and he alone, without the help of God, can do nothing.
The multitudes and disciples themselves understand and always glorified God in all such circumstances:

• '‘But when the crowds saw this, they were awestruck, and glorified God, who had given such authority to men.’' (Matt. 9:

Lastly, miracles are not only peculiar to Jesus alone. it is attributes of prophets of God which God Almighty bestowed on them to show his greatness.
Even in the Bible, we hear of greater miracles performed by Moses, Elisha, Ezekiel, and others, and all of them did not become God!

Please I encouraged my Christian brethren to go and study their Bible thoroughly. Blind faith has no basis in any religion.

Jesus said: "…Know ye the truth as it is the truth which shall make you free …" John 8:32.

Thanks!