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lol u a clown

samflexxy: Why are they so many negative people in this world

if u v any link to support ur views, plz drop it here

Unbias: This assertion is wrong. Pls endeavour to do some homework on it.

@seun and moderator:
what is the criteria of a topic making the frontpage and how did this particular topic comply

read the wiki quotes just now......very interesting really!!!!!

PastorAIO: The 'just' in that statement was not suggesting it was casual, but rather that it denoted exclusivity. I can flog you just because you stole my chocolate. In other words I flog you precisely and exclusively because you stole my chocolate and for no other reason.

But having said that I believe that I am still wrong when I think of it. Israel wasn't created just because of the holocaust because zionists had planned it from a long time before the holocaust. Israel was created mainly due to a zionist agenda.

You have mentioned who fired rockets first as if that is where the aggression started. The very first act of Aggression was the creation of the State of Israel. The Zionists expected the Palestinians to react and had prepared for all these eventualities decades before they actually became manifest.

A partial Jewish State is not the end, but only the beginning. ... I am certain that we well not be prevented from settling in the other parts of the country, either by mutual agreements with our Arab neighbors or by some other means. . . [If the Arabs refuse] we shall have to speak to them in another language. But we shall only have another language if we have a state."
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/David_Ben-Gurion

This was said by the father of the State of Israel. The father of Zionism himself. They knew that to take over the land they would have to resort to what he calls 'another language'. They were prepared for the violence.

theere is something wrong wid u

http://www.thenigerianvoice.com/nvnews/114231/50/nigerian-students-dying-of-hunger-in-russia.html

HNosegbe: Serves them right.

Recall their lame behinds.

i dont really get...my dvd/cdrom isnt alright and i havent replaced it since i rarely make use of it...is there any other way i can install via play on linux without using the cd rom?

all4naija: I think that is one of the basic reasons why you get the best out of it than wine-installed.

nice...ll check it out when chanced

4llerbuntu: its called "barry"

http://sourceforge.net/projects/barry/



https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Blackberry%20Sync%20with%20Ubuntu

Aite its cooool

plaetton: oK. Noted, and I apologize for my harsh words.
It's just that it irks me when people come to this forum pushing hate agendas without any real facts to back them up.

nice one and well worded

armadeo: Its their nollywood mentality.


Charlton Heston ..... Ben hur

Ejiofor c. 12 years a slave

Djimon honsou. .......amistad, gladiator.

And of course the almighty Spartacus.


You all screamed and watched these ' slave' movies, no be people act them.

d devil take 'ee, 'ee cursed swine. why, 'ee never could stand till 'ee got behind da wheelbarrow
#kidding, i saw that line in the 'cave dreamers' novel.
the irish and their curses

prof800: Wow... I wish her luck.


***irish accent***

Come ere yor foin sexy slaiv... me love yor foin blue dress.
**grins**

'by real odd twist of history.'..lol.. .thanks pastor and btw if u have any links supporting any argument, can u kindly add it up
i for one know that xtians had jews had deep enenmity but for now they are illogically the best of friends or is it more like 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend relationship?
and between i think the crusades (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades) was the first documented report of conflicts (not sure) between christianity and islam though there are so many reasons proffered by both sides for the war.

PastorAIO: Some interesting thoughts that I've had for a few years now.

Today we have christians supporting Jews and Israel and they gang up together against the Muslims. Yet this is a recent thing. Throughout most of history since Islam started and built an empire it is the christians that have inflicted the most injury on the Jews. It is the christians that accuse the Jews of killing Jesus, it is christians that talk about Jesus as if he wasn't a jew, it is christians that committed pogroms against the Jews everywhere in Europe. And what did the Jews do when the christians oppressed them till it became unbearable? They ran to the Islamic nations where they were given sanctuary.

When the Moslems were in Spain there was freedom of religion for christians and Jews. When the Christians drove the Moslem moors out of Spain they brought religious oppression and Auto Da Fe. The Jews fled towards Islam. Many fled to Ottoman empire. For centuries the Moslems always accommodated the Jews. Then by the oddest twist of history, just because christian Germany killed 6 million jews in a holocaust in the 20th century they Jews get a jewish state in a moslem country and in the bizzarrest case of human ingratitude they now blow up moslem babies with plenty of help and support from their christian supporters in USA.

By the red sentence above I'm talking about the gospels that say things like, I paraphrase, 'and the jews came to Jesus trying to trick him' or 'Jesus was avoiding the jews'. When you read it you would imagine that Jesus wasn't a Jew but a foreigner in an evil Jewish country. It is so obviously a blatant case of propaganda.

@ plaetton:
try and be respectful.....or better still edit ur comments...at no point did i make any allusions to anyone..and sorry, i dddnt do history;pure engineering is my forte...if u got better facts drop it but treat everyone and anyone with respect...i m willing to learn...If i was to drop a thread on my field of research which is Quantum teleportation, i bet u may not have any idea of what i speak of and this doesnt mean you are ignorant.

maybe i made a mistake by using the term conflict.....i meant the fact that they rarely see eye to eye in matters of the scriptures, their total different lifestyles, and all.......but tell me the crusade wars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades) was fought between who/what?

and lastly if u look at this thread u will know i am no advocate of any true religion though i am a catholic....
https://www.nairaland.com/1824358/lets-us-brainstorm-learn-each

i only try to 'provoke' arguments the greek way so as to learn more from different perceptions and opinions

plaetton: ^^^

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is been 'dimwitted' the in-thing now

500GP: WHEN YOU SEE SNAKE AND IBO MAN . KILL THE IBO MAN BEFORE YOU GO FOR THE SNAKE

i think thatz the best..if i was gonna have kids outside naija, once they get to college age,imma deport them back here to do sec sch starting from j.s.s 1 preferably in a command or airforce boarding house where seniors ll beat the shiit outta them to learn discipline...its all gonna be for the greater good of course

topsyking: your comment make me reply u.... for parent in usa not uk.. usa atleast send ur children back to do secondary school at home.. my uncle did it.when his son was always in trouble in georgia..he send him home to continue ss1 in a private secondary schl.. now the boy can speak yoruba and can also reason like an african.. not like AKATA/african america...

Hmmm,on one side we have Isaac and then Jacob and on the order side we have Ishmael/Esau.... Christians/Jews believe they have their origins from Abraham/isaac/Jacob while Muslims trace their origins (before mohammed, nt sure though) through Abraham/ishmael and/or Esau. Similiarities abound between the Arabs and Ishmael/Esau....from the quotes,

[b]

Genesis 16 /i] 11 The angel of the LORD also said to her: "You are now with child and you will have a son. You shall name him Ishmael, for the LORD has heard of your misery. He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers."
[i]
Genesis 21 20 God was with the boy(ishmael) as he grew up. He lived in the desert and became an archer. 21 While he was living in the Desert of Paran, his mother got a wife for him from Egypt.

Genesis 25 23 The LORD said to her, "Two nations are in your womb, and two peoples from within you will be separated; one people will be stronger than the other, and the older will serve the younger." 24 When the time came for her to give birth, there were twin boys in her womb. 25 The first to come out was red, and his whole body was like a hairy garment; so they named him Esau. 26 After this, his brother came out, with his hand grasping Esau's heel; so he was named Jacob. Isaac was sixty years old when Rebekah gave birth to them. 27 The boys grew up, and Esau became a skillful hunter, a man of the open country.

Genesis 27 38 Esau said to his father, "Do you have only one blessing, my father? Bless me too, my father!" Then Esau wept aloud. 39 His father Isaac answered him, "Your dwelling will be away from the earth's richness, away from the dew of heaven above. 40 You will live by the sword and you will serve your brother.

Genesis 28: 9 so he went to Ishmael and married Mahalath, the sister of Nebaioth and daughter of Ishmael son of Abraham [/b]


Esau and Ishmael bear striking similiarities in skin, behaviour and nomadic patterns of the arabs and even closer to home here, the nomadic fulanis. Is it possible both religions were doomed and cursed from the start by God/Allah to become mortal enemies to the end of time?


As said earlier pls drop 'unantagonizing' comments here.

Continuing,

Genesis 27 (New International Version)
Jacob Gets Isaac's Blessing
1 When Isaac was old and his eyes were so weak that he could no longer see, he called for Esau his older son and said to him, "My son." "Here I am," he answered. 2 Isaac said, "I am now an old man and don't know the day of my death. 3 Now then, get your weapons--your quiver and bow--and go out to the open country to hunt some wild game for me. 4 Prepare me the kind of tasty food I like and bring it to me to eat, so that I may give you my blessing before I die." 5 Now Rebekah was listening as Isaac spoke to his son Esau. When Esau left for the open country to hunt game and bring it back, 6 Rebekah said to her son Jacob, "Look, I overheard your father say to your brother Esau, 7 'Bring me some game and prepare me some tasty food to eat, so that I may give you my blessing in the presence of the LORD before I die.' 8 Now, my son, listen carefully and do what I tell you: 9 Go out to the flock and bring me two choice young goats, so I can prepare some tasty food for your father, just the way he likes it. 10 Then take it to your father to eat, so that he may give you his blessing before he dies." 11 Jacob said to Rebekah his mother, "But my brother Esau is a hairy man, and I'm a man with smooth skin. 12 What if my father touches me? I would appear to be tricking him and would bring down a curse on myself rather than a blessing." 13 His mother said to him, "My son, let the curse fall on me. Just do what I say; go and get them for me." 14 So he went and got them and brought them to his mother, and she prepared some tasty food, just the way his father liked it. 15 Then Rebekah took the best clothes of Esau her older son, which she had in the house, and put them on her younger son Jacob. 16 She also covered his hands and the smooth part of his neck with the goatskins. 17 Then she handed to her son Jacob the tasty food and the bread she had made. 18 He went to his father and said, "My father." "Yes, my son," he answered. "Who is it?" 19 Jacob said to his father, "I am Esau your firstborn. I have done as you told me. Please sit up and eat some of my game so that you may give me your blessing." 20 Isaac asked his son, "How did you find it so quickly, my son?" "The LORD your God gave me success," he replied. 21 Then Isaac said to Jacob, "Come near so I can touch you, my son, to know whether you really are my son Esau or not." 22 Jacob went close to his father Isaac, who touched him and said, "The voice is the voice of Jacob, but the hands are the hands of Esau." 23 He did not recognize him, for his hands were hairy like those of his brother Esau; so he blessed him. 24 "Are you really my son Esau?" he asked. "I am," he replied. 25 Then he said, "My son, bring me some of your game to eat, so that I may give you my blessing." Jacob brought it to him and he ate; and he brought some wine and he drank. 26 Then his father Isaac said to him, "Come here, my son, and kiss me." 27 So he went to him and kissed him. When Isaac caught the smell of his clothes, he blessed him and said, "Ah, the smell of my son is like the smell of a field that the LORD has blessed. 28 May God give you of heaven's dew and of earth's richness-- an abundance of grain and new wine. 29 May nations serve you and peoples bow down to you. Be lord over your brothers, and may the sons of your mother bow down to you. May those who curse you be cursed and those who bless you be blessed." 30 After Isaac finished blessing him and Jacob had scarcely left his father's presence, his brother Esau came in from hunting. 31 He too prepared some tasty food and brought it to his father. Then he said to him, "My father, sit up and eat some of my game, so that you may give me your blessing." 32 His father Isaac asked him, "Who are you?" "I am your son," he answered, "your firstborn, Esau." 33 Isaac trembled violently and said, "Who was it, then, that hunted game and brought it to me? I ate it just before you came and I blessed him--and indeed he will be blessed!" 34 When Esau heard his father's words, he burst out with a loud and bitter cry and said to his father, "Bless me--me too, my father!" 35 But he said, "Your brother came deceitfully and took your blessing." 36 Esau said, "Isn't he rightly named Jacob ? He has deceived me these two times: He took my birthright, and now he's taken my blessing!" Then he asked, "Haven't you reserved any blessing for me?" 37 Isaac answered Esau, "I have made him lord over you and have made all his relatives his servants, and I have sustained him with grain and new wine. So what can I possibly do for you, my son?" 38 Esau said to his father, "Do you have only one blessing, my father? Bless me too, my father!" Then Esau wept aloud. 39 His father Isaac answered him, "Your dwelling will be away from the earth's richness, away from the dew of heaven above. 40 You will live by the sword and you will serve your brother. But when you grow restless, you will throw his yoke from off your neck."


Genesis 28 (New International Version)
1 So Isaac called for Jacob and blessed him and commanded him: "Do not marry a Canaanite woman. 2 Go at once to Paddan Aram, to the house of your mother's father Bethuel. Take a wife for yourself there, from among the daughters of Laban, your mother's brother. 8 Esau then realized how displeasing the Canaanite women were to his father Isaac; 9 so he went to Ishmael and married Mahalath, the sister of Nebaioth and daughter of Ishmael son of Abraham, in addition to the wives he already had.

I will copy and paste selected parts of the bible buttressing my point.
Though before i draw the wrong conclusions, i would love to ask my muslims brothers the significance of ishamael to the islamic faith

Genesis 16 (New International Version)
Hagar and Ishmael
1 Now Sarai, Abram's wife, had borne him no children. But she had an Egyptian maidservant named Hagar; 2 so she said to Abram, "The LORD has kept me from having children. Go, sleep with my maidservant; perhaps I can build a family through her." Abram agreed to what Sarai said. 3 So after Abram had been living in Canaan ten years, Sarai his wife took her Egyptian maidservant Hagar and gave her to her husband to be his wife.. When she knew she was pregnant, she began to despise her mistress. 5 Then Sarai said to Abram, "You are responsible for the wrong I am suffering. I put my servant in your arms, and now that she knows she is pregnant, she despises me. May the LORD judge between you and me." 6 "Your servant is in your hands," Abram said. "Do with her whatever you think best." Then Sarai mistreated Hagar; so she fled from her. 7 The angel of the LORD found Hagar near a spring in the desert; it was the spring that is beside the road to Shur. 8 And he said, "Hagar, servant of Sarai, where have you come from, and where are you going?" "I'm running away from my mistress Sarai," she answered. 9 Then the angel of the LORD told her, "Go back to your mistress and submit to her." 10 The angel added, "I will so increase your descendants that they will be too numerous to count." 11 The angel of the LORD also said to her: "You are now with child and you will have a son. You shall name him Ishmael, for the LORD has heard of your misery. 12 He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers." 13 She gave this name to the LORD who spoke to her: "You are the God who sees me," for she said, "I have now seen the One who sees me." . 15 So Hagar bore Abram a son, and Abram gave the name Ishmael to the son she had borne. 16 Abram was eighty-six years old when Hagar bore him Ishmael.

Genesis 17 (New International Version)
18 And Abraham said to God, "If only Ishmael might live under your blessing!" 19 Then God said, "Yes, but your wife Sarah will bear you a son, and you will call him Isaac. I will establish my covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him. 20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation. 21 But my covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah will bear to you by this time next year."

Genesis 21 (New International Version)
The Birth of Isaac
1 Now the LORD was gracious to Sarah as he had said, and the LORD did for Sarah what he had promised. 2 Sarah became pregnant and bore a son to Abraham in his old age, at the very time God had promised him. 3 Abraham gave the name Isaac to the son Sarah bore him.

Genesis 21:8-21 (New International Version)
Hagar and Ishmael Sent Away
8 The child grew and was weaned, and on the day Isaac was weaned Abraham held a great feast. 9 But Sarah saw that the son whom Hagar the Egyptian had borne to Abraham was mocking, 10 and she said to Abraham, "Get rid of that slave woman and her son, for that slave woman's son will never share in the inheritance with my son Isaac." 11 The matter distressed Abraham greatly because it concerned his son. 12 But God said to him, "Do not be so distressed about the boy and your maidservant. Listen to whatever Sarah tells you, because it is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned. 13 I will make the son of the maidservant into a nation also, because he is your offspring." 14 Early the next morning Abraham took some food and a skin of water and gave them to Hagar. He set them on her shoulders and then sent her off with the boy. She went on her way and wandered in the desert of Beersheba. 15 When the water in the skin was gone, she put the boy under one of the bushes. 16 Then she went off and sat down nearby, about a bowshot away, for she thought, "I cannot watch the boy die." And as she sat there nearby, she began to sob. 17 God heard the boy crying, and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven and said to her, "What is the matter, Hagar? Do not be afraid; God has heard the boy crying as he lies there. 18 Lift the boy up and take him by the hand, for I will make him into a great nation." 19 Then God opened her eyes and she saw a well of water. So she went and filled the skin with water and gave the boy a drink. 20 God was with the boy as he grew up. He lived in the desert and became an archer. 21 While he was living in the Desert of Paran, his mother got a wife for him from Egypt.



Genesis 25 (New International Version)
Jacob and Esau
19 This is the account of Abraham's son Isaac. Abraham became the father of Isaac, 20 and Isaac was forty years old when he married Rebekah daughter of Bethuel the Aramean from Paddan Aram and sister of Laban the Aramean. 21 Isaac prayed to the LORD on behalf of his wife, because she was barren. The LORD answered his prayer, and his wife Rebekah became pregnant. 22 The babies jostled each other within her, and she said, "Why is this happening to me?" So she went to inquire of the LORD. 23 The LORD said to her, "Two nations are in your womb, and two peoples from within you will be separated; one people will be stronger than the other, and the older will serve the younger." 24 When the time came for her to give birth, there were twin boys in her womb. 25 The first to come out was red, and his whole body was like a hairy garment; so they named him Esau. 26 After this, his brother came out, with his hand grasping Esau's heel; so he was named Jacob. Isaac was sixty years old when Rebekah gave birth to them. 27 The boys grew up, and Esau became a skillful hunter, a man of the open country, while Jacob was a quiet man, staying among the tents.

ohk, letz leave it @ sango and Thor

kevoh: Just to clear the Sango (God of thunder) issue in the Carribeans and Latin America. There are similar because the Sango god concept was exported from Africa during the slave era by slaves who were picked from West Africa (Yoruba Origin) and taken those parts of the world. They kept these practices while in captivity and also as freed slaves even after such regions and islands became Nations.

They also have Santerias (high priests) who belive the Orishas are some sort of top guardians. If you are familiar with Yoruba tradition you would have heard them mention orishas too.

seeen ds post before?is the dog still having issues? why not seek the opinion of anoda vet

ur opinions ll b welcomed here
https://www.nairaland.com/1824358/lets-us-brainstorm-learn-each

when y'all r done, i would need ur opinions on dz thread
https://www.nairaland.com/1824358/lets-us-brainstorm-learn-each

https://www.nairaland.com/1824358/lets-us-brainstorm-learn-each
i ll need ur opinions here

ditto here...tot i was d only one

MizMyColi: errmm.....NewsFlash! I no longer qualify as a christian [A Nigerian one at least]........so you're right, I started thinking, thus I strayed. I chose compassion over wrath, then I lost my christian religion. God is too much, too big for one single religion to claim monopoly of Him. I'm shedding my religious scales yet I'll always believe in God.

mon dieu..u know i made/wrote down all this while doing reflections...it never occurred to me that some of this things were online...gracias!!!!!

Apatheist: Noah's ark did not exist, the flood never happened.
www.biblicalnonsense.com/chapter6.html
www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html

Your ancestors predate Adam and Eve by millennia.
freethoughtnation.com/adam-and-eve-a-myth/

Dinosaurs predate by millions of years what religious books put the age of the earth (It's 6000+ for Abrahamic Religions)
www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/this-is-what-creationists-believe-about-dinosaurs?s=mobile

On ancient aliens:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_astronauts

Horus can explain better.

imma have to steal ur dp...may use it later

Apatheist: May whatever god you believe in bless you for being open minded.

I have been reflecting over the past few years and i would love to have serious discussions with wise and intelligent people in any faith. Please if after you read my thread the only thing you can say is, 'you need to repent', 'God will punish you' etc, this thread isnt for you. [i][/i]

Between u and me, been a staunch catholic, and watching the news,videos, reading the bible and koran inside out, listening to malcolm x, athiests, martin luther king,and all ; i wonder sometimes if religion isnt a tool to be used at times for nefarious activities....i have a milllion and one questions and am more confused than ever...the only reason i hate arguing is that most times i come against people who already have prejudiced opinions of where they stand and arent willing to argue 'both sides of an argument'....


Questions go thus:
Did noah place the dinosaurs in his boat? what happened to them and why werent they mentioned seeing as God created everything?why do we have via carbon dating the ages of dinosaurs on earth as around 150million years ago while man came to earth according to calculations from the bible as less than 6000 years ago?where adam and eve white as we are made to believe or where they actually black seeing as science says civilization started in africa? what technology did the ancient egyptians use to build the pyramids/sphinz, irrigation etc when they were supposed to be prehistoric humans with little knowledge of technology?it is said by archaelogists that the technology used by the egyptians to build and craft perfect sized stones for the pyramids were not supposed to have existed in that era. Were the egyptians in contact with ancient and more sophisticated 'aliens'? Does standing by the bible and koran reduce our imagination and creativity while making us lazy 'intellectually' especially as africans?

the gods which christianity urges us to do away with, is it not possible they might have actually existed? tales of thor/sango/ amadioha/ oranmiyan etc, how can we all say that they are false and they were all created from the imagination of our forefathers? For example the god of lightning and thunder, sango is also known in latin america and the carribeans as Xangô or Changó (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shango); sango is said wield a 'double-headed axe'. now contrast this to the scandinavian god Thor, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor) who also wields a hammer and is also known as the god of lightning and thunder same as sango and we can see distinct similairities. I dont think that two regions separated by large landmass and culture would coincidentally have similar gods. is sango/olodumare same or similar to Thor/Odin? Has the white man reduced our sense of appreciation that we would pay to watch Thor in cinemas, watch and download cartoons on aang/korra the avatars (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar) but neglect our own sango?

Did aliens actually visit this earth years and years ago and our ancestors who for lack of more technical knowledge term them 'gods'. Lemme humour you more on this; if i was to get into a car or a motor bike and be transported back in time to the time of adam and eve or to the time of our forefathers who had little knowledge of anything and went about with bows and arrows, how would they describe me? One account of yoruba history lists oduduwa/oranmiyan as descending from heaven with a long chain when he arrived in ife. Now what if he had but with more intelligent means but due to the account holders lack of knowledge of technology in that era, described the device in his own way? in the book of revelations, is it not possible that the prophet saw a vision of the 20th century and maybe world war 1/2. How do you think the prophet wouldav been on seeing explosions or nuclear bombings? For one he would have been terrified,scared shitless and then with his little knowledge tried to document what he sees like armoured tanks, guns, jet fighters, airplanes, guns, skyscrapers in his own terms and little understanding.

Who made up the bible and the koran? is it possible there were more political reasons for adding and removing specific chapters/gospels? Was the aim of the white missionaries solely to save souls in africa/nigeria or was religion/islam/xtianity used as a hidden tool to rule africa?what was the position of the xtian missionaries and islamic arabs from the north on slavery? What about some of the atrocities in the bible which we xtians dont really talk about e.g daughters sleeping with their fathers? God ordering his people to 'kill anything that moved', take 'women/children as slaves'? We condemn the muslims by selecting some portions of the korans to condemn them but we xtians know that the bible has much worse quotations on killing. and IMO, seeing as the koran is an adaptation of the old testament, perhaps we should get off our high horse when talking this things with muslims. and if we are to say as xtians that we should discard the old testament due to the fact that God sent Jesus to die for us, is it to say that God realised he had made a mistake with Moses and so to correct his mistake, he sent Jesus to introduce a new convenant?But i thought God was omniscience?what was the bible's position on slavery? Are we to regard it as the sign of the times and since things have changed we should overlook that part?An old man from my villa once said to me years ago when i was talking about a saint to him. This old man who was quite learned asked me a question which left me quite flummoxed. He said, 'Why should i pray to a saint who lived and died in portugal/france/italy to intercede to God for him when he could pray to to his late great great grandmother who was a queen and ruled the village wisely and justly and who was logically geographically more nearer to him?

Is it logically true that as xtians all non xtians would all suffer in hell?Millions of muslims,chinese,indians are all doomed to suffer in hell before they are even born? Also muslims, what is the fate of non muslims? Are we all gonna die? Does that mean that if both faith was/is true, then i am condemned to die by default? Even if i live a sane, righteous and non hippocritic life than most fake devotees, will i still suffer in hell? And traditionalists what is the fate of non traditionalists when they die? Jehovah witness, what is the fate of a deeper life person or a catholic person? I read the works of saint thomas aquinas and he said quite clearly, 'There Is No Salvation Except in the Catholic Faith'. Is this correct? What is the truth? Is there any truth at all?

Please this should be seen as an educative forum...sorry if u feel i cast aspersions on u or ur tribe or religion.

If you think i m blind plz LEAD ME

Lastly and lastly, xtians/muslims/atheists/deeper life/catholics/sunnis/hinduists/traditionalists.... this might be a chance to save a soul or reinforce my belief. dont just view and work away or u ll be judged by God/Allah/Krishna/Amadioha... on the last day for failing to convert a 'lost' soul as imma bear witness against u



A small clip from pocahontas...The best line in the songs is 'They are not like me and so that means they must be evil'


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlzuWbDHZrU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2av9SQsMIi8