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pu7pl3:
WWE has the best video packages. It is known.

You spelt "had" wrong.

No one does better video packages than AEW.

Will Ospreay is the best wrestler in the world.

samistry:
It's a wrestling weekend

I have another question. Why is Punk teaming with Sami and not Roman?

samistry:
Room must be made for Drabstate faction, Shawn Spears the Cumming stable and temu j-lo, Lola Vice

I have a question; what's in those boxes? The ladies are important I'm just curious.

CoolUsername:
That first pic doesn't do justice to the injury. This is a potential career-ender

it's always the good ones. I have a question, how come the MMA counterparts don't get injured sporadically as the pro-wrestlers?

samistry:
Maybe we're too quick to judge?

or maybe not. Time will tell.

CoolUsername:
If Bork Laser's daughter ever decides to start wrestling, the women's division is cooked

Bork Laser? It reminds me of Brook Laser from the Wrestling Revolution android game.

CoolUsername:
Mudshow wrestlers like Joey Janela use extreme stuff like this to compensate for the fact that they can't wrestle.

I don't know if Janela can or can't, but this is true about most hardcore wrestlers. I don't think it applies to Moxley though.

pu7pl3:
What power struggle?

I'm wondering.

WDYT?

pu7pl3:
Who is this guy?

I'm shocked you asked this? You watch only E?

samistry:
so showing skin diminishes their ability? 🤔

no, just lack of focus and seeing pro-wrestling as a means to an end.

CoolUsername:
You know that some MMA fighters and even Olympians also have OnlyFans accounts, right? Turns out that gooners usually pay more than niche sports. Heck, even Toni Storm had one.

of course. It makes them money, but their craft end up suffering.

samistry:
Thats why you need to broaden your point of view.
Cora getting cut wasn't due to posting thirst pics. She was injury prone and had regressed in ring.
Dakota Kai was also injury prone.
Shayna Bazler and Sonya deville who don't wear skimpy attires were also cut.
I don't think using Saudi Arabia with its strict dress code for women is a fair point. Even Deeper life women no go pass their dress code.
Besides when last did we post thirst comments here my guy?

I've seen the pic before. Injury prone? We may not know the full story but joining Onlyfans few days after released doesn't spell good. Her lewd pics doesn't spell good. Was she injury prone because she lost focus, that could be? She isn't even trying to continue wrestling from info available.
And it's not just about our small community here, geez, elsewhere the IWC is insufferable. It happens almost every week, with people thanking the camera man and all that.

CoolUsername:
Damn, that was quick

ehen now. Continue with the thirst comments my people. This is what we'll get. Unserious people in the wrestling business who don't even know why they're there. They come for a fight looking like they're going for Red Carpet; expensive hairdo, makeup and all. On top of that they're so lewdly looking I don't pity them 1 bit in Saudi Arabia. Ladies don't look that way in Olympics, Amateur wrestling or MMA, even in sport combat movies (just incase we want to defend it as entertainment). Nonsense.

samistry:
Stables are bad but Triple H career was floundering as Connecticut Blue Blood. It was until he associated with HBK then former DX he started to shine.
When HBK was injured, he took the reigns of DX and ran with it.
IF we apply your logic, every heel who has ever gone over in the history of wrestling buried someone else.
Great Khali buried undertaker in his debut.
Undertaker career suffered due to that burial😭.

The career success of Seth, Roman and Ambrose will forever be tied to the Shield. It was a successful launchpad for their careers same with Evolution for Orton and Batista.
You wan mention AJ Styles, Balor, Kenny omega and Young Bucks careers no call Bullet Club then you be Johnny Just Come Wrestling fan.

You want to talk about Ambrose holding the US title hostage. Let's not pretend like that midcard title was a prestigious belt at the time. I even forgot Sheamus had a run with that belt after winning the battle royale to win it from Dean.
It wasn't until Rusev and Cena's run that the belt was given prominence.
One of the biggest moments in that authority era was Cody and Goldust winning the tag belts from the shield. I dare say it's still the crowning point of Goldust career in the WWE.

Say what you want about Big E and Kofi booking as champions but they held wins over Orton, Lashley, Owens, Mcintyre, Rollings. abi you dn get amnesia? Both of their reigns ended at the hands of Brock, the most dominant wrestler ever.
Xavier Woods has been saying for years that his dream was to become the king of the ring. Didn't he achieve that?

If it was easy to just dominate everyone and be a successful stable then explain Why Nexus who were beating the whole Raw Roster in their debut failed
Isn't the Death Riders which the AEW Champion Moxley belongs to an offshoot Blackpool Combat Club? abi no be the same BCC Bryan Danielson dey when he win the Owen Hart tournament and eventually the AEW Championship?
Valee i dn argue to point I dey defend Nazi Stable😩.
You said there's nothing for stables to fight for?
NJPW has the six man tag belts which AEW took a leaf from and made the trios title.

Yes, HHH started getting an uplift in his career after joining DX, a heel stable and burying others, thats my point. This is how it works, a heel stable goes about exerting dominance and attacking people, winning matches which individually they couldn't - that's burial. And the excuse is character (bad guys) and numbers. You may not understand this now, and that's okay, I only want you to give this theory a chance. If all The Shield did was go and have tag matches and escort eachother to the ring for singles, would they have risen in heights. Names like Kane, DB (thank God the Yes movement saved him), Ryback were their victims. They also got to touch guys like Sheamus, Taker and Rocky. The midcard guys were victimised too. That's the formula man.

Big E and Kofi had wins and barely impacted. Kofi had the lowest draw of a world champion in recent times. Big E wasn't dominant. That's not the first time WWE feed big names to smaller wrestlers to put them over and it flops. But yes, New Day was a great tag team, but part of that success was this heel stable thing I'm talking about. I could recall tag team matches were they inserted themselves in 3 to win it. It's not ridiculous for a heel stable.

Nexus. Lol. John Cena happened to them. Summer slam was the crowning moment and you know the story.

BCC; this is where I need you to differentiate between individual success and group. Bryan was going to win that belt, stable or not, he's Bryan. But as a Stable, was BCC as dominant as Elite or Inner Circle? Be honest. It's not even as dominant as Death Riders and people hate them so bad.
I answered the Elite question, it just didn't send. It's simple, Bullet club became big as a heel stable, doing the same thing I talked about. The Elite were part of that stable and became big also. While they turned babyface they had already grown big and that reflected in their status even individually.

Trios titles, just 1 problem, what if there are more than 3? That's the point. Can stables be sustained with belts of any number? But if stables can be coming only in 3s and only in AEW, and other companies not WWE, then no problem; if not, there's still one.

samistry:
Goal post mover once again has changed the question to stables that started babyface and stayed big 🤣. Matter wey start originally with stables are bad
Wasn't Team Extreme big as faces?
The corporation was buried by DX.
The wyatt family were buried by shield.
Usos were buried by the new day according to your logic.
Meanwhile Kofi and Big E won World titles as faces in a face stable.

I'm moving goal posts only in your head. I haven't changed my stance. Stables are bad. The only way they ever made impact in wrestling was by burying others and or pushing 1 person. You keep saying DX, weren't they already big when they turned face. How did they turn big, by burying others while heel.
I'd say John Cena buried the Wyatt family. But they had great matches with them and evolution, but remember while this was going on they were having cracks and the reason they had to break up was creative issues. What else was there for them to do. Ambrose had belt the US title hostage everyone almost forgot about it. They had to bring back and old team in the Evolution for them to have a program as babyfaces. Who were they going to face? How were they going to make impact going forward. Escort eachother to the ring for title matches like the New Day and then what? Let's not even talk about how bad the Big E and Kofi's run were - but where is the impact of the stable? By that point it would have become an excuse for existence rather than a meaningful pursuit. At least if it were a tag team we know they have belts to fight for. But as babyfaces; no one to attack, no one to ambush, no matches to interrupt, what reason is there to exist anyway?
Did Blackpool Combat Club make an impact?

pu7pl3:
Your takes are usually always too loopsided. I think You should work on your perception.

Pu7pl3 tell me when I'm telling lies. There's only one way a stable may work; 1 guy for a world title and the others for tag teams & midcard titles. If you have multiple top guys in a stable, it's a joke, because who is going to go for the world title? And stables don't have belts. Finito.

samistry:
Weren't DX at their most popular when feuding with the corporation?Wasn't shield a face stable when feuding with Evolution and the wyatts?
Wasn't New Day a face stable longer than they were heels? Weren't NWO Wolf pac faces?.
Goalpost has shifted from stables are bad to only heel stables work.
It's prowrestling you always need to dominate someone to make an impact.

All these guys made impact as a heel stable. Did little as a face stable. Shield was already big when they had those fights, same with the rest. Give me a face stable that started babyface and became big as a result, not one that was already big then switched face.
Yeah, stables are bad. And one of the proof is you have to BURY people for it to make some kind of impact. See how many names suffered in the hands of DX, same with NWO, Shield isn't exempted.
Jobbing isn't same as burying.

samistry:
I'm sure evolution, DX, NWO, the Shield, Bullet club and the elite stables didn't work 😏.
It's wrestling every match must have a winner and a loser.

Do you know how many people they had to bury to flourish. I noticed you brought out only heel stables - because that's what they do, bury people. I challenge you to bring a face stable that actually worked. Don't weasel out.

samistry:
Don't defend this as choreograph spot bro.
This is dumb indy carnival stuff

In what, in idea or execution? It's possible but in a very rare circumstance.

samistry:
The D'angelo family - broken up
Metafour - broken up
Fatal influence - on the brink of breakup
NQCC - on the brink of breakup

stables are bad. I've said this before. The only way a stable works is if:
1. You bury other talent.
2. It's for the benefit of 1 person and one person alone, World championship in goal.

samistry:
@valeelove wetin be this biko?

This is officially the most Pro Wrestling Guerrilla pilled match of all-time on national television. 😭pic.twitter.com/jMR2hxc3XP

— Drainmaker (@TheDrainmaker) May 1, 2025

Lol. You think I like this? I don't know if it would have been done better, but basically that's what you get when you choreograph matches.

samistry:
Fair enough but he's still faattttttt

not a criticism in my book. CAN YOU WORK? That's all I care about. Cargill looks great but her work stinks.

samistry:
Some of these were from the aew reddit page while others are from general wrestling.
He's an okay athlete but needs to stop that machine gun chops, the spinning back fist is a bad finisher in my view.

Kobashi Kenta liked this pic.twitter.com/k6A7UMBj9Q

— Danyzedog94 (@Danyzedog94) June 11, 2022

I don't have an issue with his gun chops. It looks that way because it's really fast, faster than Kenta's from the videos I watched. They probably don't like him because of his weight, but the fact is he puts out good matches and sells himself well.

samistry:
That Naomi's attack was whack

i still think she was protecting Jade. That's the only reasonable deduction I could make out of this.

CoolUsername:
Woah, woah, woah. Hol' up, wait a minute, something ain't right.

Weren't we just talking about weak-looking offence on the part of Naomi? Why aren't you keeping the same energy with Eddie Kingston?

Difference is those 2 weren't even touching eachother and it's beyond embarrassing that such a display exists on A TV as big as WWE's.

pu7pl3:
Go and ask people about McIntyre or Gunther's chops

Gunther is a good athlete, I might even say great, but his chops are too hard. Send a chopper, I still I'm not leaving this hill. It's not supposed to hurt. We subside every other move's effect till it comes to a chop or a slap; fa fa foul. I don't agree.

samistry:
Even the most die hard AEW fans admit that his chops look bad. He isn't trying to do em like Flair but like Kenta Kobashi. However they look weak in comparison

where are the admissions from these diehard fans? I haven't seen Kenta's, maybe it's time to check it out. Plus comparing NJPW to US isn't exactly fair. We all know they practice a strong style. I've seen the chops, I've also seen his spinning back fist and other moves; they are good in my eyes at least. He eats a lot, but he's still a good athlete. You can't be a bad athlete if you can deliver good matches with people like Punk and Danielson.

samistry:
Even the most die hard AEW fans admit that his chops look bad. He isn't trying to do em like Flair but like Kenta Kobashi. However they look weak in comparison

I don't see any issues with it. It's fast hence that way. Plus a chop is not supposed to actually hurt, sometimes we forget this.

CoolUsername:
Have you seen his "machine gun" chops?

they look and sound good. Must they look exactly like Flair's?