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wirinet:
Vavavoom,

Most of Abiola Businesses died or were mere carcasses while he was alive. Even Concord Airlines did not survive when he was alive.

He hurriedly invested his loot in businesses he knew nothing about to give a farcade of "Good Businessman", but most of the businesses did not last 10years.

Whoever said his business was government business was spot on. All others were white elephant fronts like you said ''facade'' to give a semblance of businees acumen while conniving with his paddy men to <make I find another word instead of loot b4 trouble start again> fraudulently enrich himself from our commonwealth. I agree with you.

Big props Seun.

Homonide:
This is really interesting. Can't really contribute until i get some facts and figures. but methinks Abiola was a good man. Would go digging up the arhcives.

Good is a relative term Homonide, if compared to the likes of IBB, Abacha, Obj, possibly correct. When you place him against Gani, Father Matthew Kukkah, Chinua Achebe, then there's trouble . Go fishing all the same.

Sagamite:
If you can not bolden the text that shows Lay and Bush blah blah blah, good luck, I can't be bothered to read.

Abiola made his money from several businesses and shares in others including:

Abiola Bookshop, Concord Newspaper, Abiola farms etc

How cheesy! . You've been making rebuttals for more than 30 minutes and you can't take 3 or so minutes to read a rejoinder. Perhaps you think yourself a repository of knowledge and expect every other person to flee at the mention of Enron, Ken Lay and bush connection. Not so fast bro, the world is at everybody's finger tip thesedays. There used to be a time when all we heard and believed were from tired-apologist who spouted everything and anything from people they revered. Not any more.

I thought I was going to see figures attached to those companies listed as evidence of their money-making sustainability?! As usual, nothing! You see rich people in the West, when they die their businesses stand after they are gone, where's the bookshop, Concord Newspaper and Farms? Are they not supposed to be making the perceived millions the deceased perceivedly made while alive? WHITE ELEPHANT businesses!

Only in Nigeria where people who are supposed to be in prison for collective crimes are being held in high regard. Abiola was just a repentant crook. I think IBB too is somewhat towing that line thesedays

wirinet:
Although by principle, i am a supporter of what june 12 stands for, I had never been a supporter of Abiola as a person. Abiola was a principal actor in institutionalizing corruption in Nigeria. Who is saying IBB is corrupt and Abiola is not even though they are blossom friends, it was corruption that brought them together. It was Abiola that financed the coup that ousted Buhari/Idiagbon government, Abiola benefited tremendously from the "friendship" of IBB during most part of his reign.  Abiola was never a successful business man, please name one business that Abiola set up that was a success. Was it Abiola Bookshop, Concord Newspaper, Abiola farms, etc. Please name one. What we were hearing as propaganda was that 95% of Abiola businesses were overseas, so where are they. Abiola successful business was Government business, if fact by the time of June 12 elections, the government was owing Abiola Billions of Naira for contracts allegedly executed but could not be sighted on ground.

I think a lot of posters on this forum are too young to know the ITT deal during the reign of Muritala, It was common knowledge of the day that Muritala was tricked into signing an over blown contract (addition of one zero) by Abiola, with help from Shehu Yaradua, OBJ  and some others. It was that singular contract that made Abiola and that was why Fela sang about it. It was not news then.

I admire Abiola for fighting and dieing for what he believed (he was elected president of Nigeria - free and square), but that does not make him a saint.

May be we should change the topic to read: ''Abiola Spent All His corruptly Acquired Wealth on June 12 Election'' to pacify Abiola's apologist. But even that way sef the man still be thief. At Wirinet, what age we are doesn't change history. He added a single zero to 75 Million! at that time and thereby stole a lot from the nations coffers, Poor Murtala .  A man who worked to deny Awo his victory is being held like a saint

Sagamite:
^^^^^

No 1, highlight the part that inspired you to post this in bold otherwise I don't have the time to read the lot.

No 2, your point for this post is?

You are a very funny man, you want a yardstick for measuring what was posted about Abiola's shady dealings with IBB n co, asking for evidence when a write was made giving dates, figures, names involve in the criminal master-minds ever assembled in Nigeria in the persons of Abiola, Obj and IBB, and when it came to your turn all you needed to criminalise IBB was that his thieving was internationally documented! and so must be TRUTH.  Since you haven't got time to read your Ken Lay-George Bush corrupt practices, I'll suggest you copy and paste on your clipboard at a later time and read what happens to be a two-way street of corruption back when George Bush was running for governor and how he in turn used the office of the presidency to influence Enron's ability to wi contracts. Please while you and your felloe sojourners are at it make una try provide us with eveidence of how Abiola came to sudden wealth! We don tire to hear of he was a business man, how im take get his millions? EVIDENCE!!!!

Sagamite:
That is village-mentality judicial process.

Sorry, I grew up and have lived in a city all my life. That would not carry a shred of weight or regards in a court of law.

I guess George Bush was also a criminal looting the US treasury as he was very good buddies for years with Ken Lay of Enron.

You sure are right Mr. Sagamite. Village-mentality judicial process indeed.

: Ken Lay--Guilty. George Bush--Guilty. posted by John Nichols on 05/25/2006 @ 2:07pm

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Take Action Comments (139) Subscribe Now The man who paid many of the biggest bills for George Bush's political ascent, Enron founder Kenneth Lay, has been found guilty of conspiracy and fraud almost five years after his dirty dealings created the greatest corporate scandal in what will be remembered as an era of corporate crime.

On the sixth day of deliberations following the conclusion of a long-delayed federal trial, a Houston jury found Lay guilty on six counts of fraud and conspiracy. In a separate decision, US District Judge Sim Lake ruled that Lay was guilty of four counts of fraud and making false statements.

The same jury that convicted Lay found Enron's former chief executive, Jeffrey Skilling, guilty on 19 counts of fraud, conspiracy, making false statements and engaging in insider trading.

Lay, who President Bush affectionately referred to as "Kenny-boy" when the two forged an alliance in the 1990s to advance Bush's political ambitions and Lay's business prospects, contributed $122,500 to Bush's gubernatorial campaigns in Texas. Lay would later explain to a PBS "Frontline" interviewer that, though he had worked closely with former Texas Governor Ann Richards, the Democrat incumbent who Bush challenged in 1994, he backed the Republican because "I was very close to George W."

Needless to say, once Bush became governor, Lay got his phone calls returned. A report issued by Public Citizen in February, 2001, months before the Enron scandal broke, identified Lay as "a long-time Bush family friend and an architect of Bush's policies on electricity deregulation, taxes and tort reform while Bush was Texas governor."

No wonder Lay had Enron give $50,000 to pay for Bush's second inaugural party in Austin in 1999 -- a showcase event that was organized by Karl Rove and others to help the Texas governor step onto the national political stage.

After Bush gave Enron exactly what it wanted in 1999, by signing legislation that deregulated the state's electrical markets, Lay knew he had found his candidate for president.

When Bush opened his campaign, Lay opened the cash spigots.

As a "Bush Pioneer" in the run-up to the 2000 presidential election, Lay was a key member of the Bush campaign's fund-raising inner circle. Under Lay's leadership, Enron ultimately gave Bush $550,025, making the corporation the Texan's No. 1 career patron at the time the 2000 election campaign began, according to the Center for Public Integrity. Lay personally pumped almost $400,000 into Republican hard- and soft-money funds, while Enron slipped another $1.5 million into the GOP's soft-money cesspool.

But that was just the beginning. Lay sent a letter to Enron executives urging them to contribute to Bush's campaign. More than 100 of them -- including Skilling, a major Bush giver since 1993, when he cut his first $5,000 check to GW's gubernatorial campaign -- did just that. Dozens of spouses wrote, including "homemaker" and frequent $10,000 donor Linda Lay, gave as well, making the Enron "family" a prime source of the money that gave Bush his early advantage over Republican rivals such as Arizona Senator John McCain.

All told, it is estimated that, over the years prior the company's bankruptcy, Lay, his company and its employees contributed close to $2 million to fund George W. Bush's political rise.

Lay found other ways to help, as well. He put Enron's corporate jets at the disposal of the Bush campaign in 2000. He kicked in $5,000 to pay for the Florida recount fight, while a top Enron "consultant," former Secretary of State James A. Baker III, ran the Republican's recount effort. He even paid for his own bookkeeping, chipping in $1,000 to help the Bush-Cheney campaign comply with campaign-finance laws. And Lay and Enron gave $300,000 to underwrite the Bush-Cheney inauguration festivities in 2001.

Did all that giving pay off? You bet!

Lay cashed in even before Bush was sworn in as president, entering into the inner circles of the new administration and using the access he had paid for to craft its agenda on the issues that mattered most to Enron.

Bush took good care of his contributor-in-chief, appointing the Enron founder as one of five members of the elite "Energy Department Transition Team," which set the stage for the Vice President Dick Cheney's energy task force and administration policies designed to benefit corporations such as Enron. A report on "Bush Administration Contacts with Enron," compiled at the request of Congressman Henry Waxman, D-California, by the minority staff of the Special Investigations Division of the House Committee on Government Reform, U.S. House of Representatives, found evidence of at least 112 contacts between Enron and White House or other Administration officials during the month prior to the corporation's very-public collapse in late 2001. At least 40 of those contacts involved top White House officials, including Vice President Dick Cheney, presidential advisor Karl Rove, White House economic advisor Lawrence Lindsey, White House personnel director Clay Johnson III, and White House energy task force director Andrew D. Lundquist.

As Waxman explained in a 2001 interview, "The fact of the matter is that Enron and Ken Lay, who was the Chief Executive Officer of Enron, had an extraordinary amount of influence and access to the Bush Administration. Lay was called a close friend by both the President and the Vice President. When the Vice President chaired an Energy Task Force, Ken Lay had an opportunity to meet privately with the Vice President and to have a great deal of influence in their recommendations."

Bush and his aides have worked hard since the Enron scandal broke to suggest that Lay was just another generous Texan. But the attempts to deny linkages to the now-convicted corporate criminal never cut water with Lone Star-state watchdog Craig McDonald, the director of Texans for Public Justice.

"President Bush's explanation of his relationship with Enron is at best a half truth," McDonald said after Bush first tried to distance himself from Lay and other Enron executives. "He was in bed with Enron before he ever held a political office."

As governor and president, Bush maintained that intimate relationship.

Now that his strange bedmate have been convicted of fraud, isn't it time for the president to end the fraud of claiming that he was ever anything less than a political partner of Lay and the Enron team?

source: www.thenation.com

Sagamite:
Honestly, the bolded is just blatantly stupid.

That is the way you arrive at your conclusions.

Please never take that as evidence to any serious setting. And I don't debate at that level.

In regards to evidentary evidence, it is well documented locally and internationally that funds where being shipped to foreign accounts under a military rule where transparency was zero. The country was going broke by all economic indicators and yet oil money was constant. And then the ruler starts living a billionaire's lifestyle and refuses to even give the slightest account of his time except "It is the will of Allah".

''honestly''? What is stupid about characterising a friend who walks with a thief for so many years?!!  And you talk about level of debate summarily cos you're trying to defend the indefensible, may be you should also get it that Abiola's sharp practices left trails that were internationally documented as well. See who dey talk about level of discourse when they can't put up any credible defense . IBB na thief, so too was Abiola.

George_D:
exactly! a criminal by every other name! yet people are more comfortable pointing fingers to abiola!

George D, if you can find worse words than criminal attribute to IBB and co it gives me no comfort but to act as if Abiola was that paragon of saintliness is what no discerning human should stand. We all love Gani till death beacuse at no point in time did he frolick with criminal elements in any ruling jaunta. If you want to publish criminal issues on IBB, Abacha, Obj, Kalu, and co it is fine by me, at the moment it is Abiola on trial.

Sagamite:
A man that has a career-life of being in the military, ruled the counrty and corruption was institutionalised, billions go missing, refused to record and account for expenditure during his rule, uses court injunctions to avoid reporting to any investigative panel, never had a visible business venture and yet is building & buying multi-million buildings (home and abroad) and having a private jet and living a £ bilionaires life is a criminal in my books.

By ''a man'' I presume you mean IBB? Getting interesting now, they say show me your friend and I'll tell you who you are: needing no eveidence, you and I at least can agree that Abiola in all his ''saintliness'' was friends with IBB before the cookie crumbled.
don't you reason it is astonishing to call IBB a criminal without ''evidentiary figures'' stated like you demanded from C. Ummannah? Abi na one rule for Abiola another for the rest?

What was Abiola doing when his paddy-paddy was instituionalising corruption and awarding bogus contracts, perhaps it willbe helpful to school us?

Sagamite:
^^^^

I must admit, I am struggling with finishing the write up as after reading one-third of the way (a long way it is), it is apparent it is the writer's personal conjectures being thrown freely and used as evidence.

If the writer could provide figures rather than stories, I would take it more seriously than just a mere conjecture.

E.g. That ITT was contracted to install comms in Nigeria, what was the figure? What was the approximate cost of installation that fell short of the figure (he should feel free using evidence like qouting other people or accusations rather than just sitting 30 years later and saying he can not see evidence of what was done).

Have you read: This house has fallen, Midnight: Midnight in Nigeria. I suggest you do if you haven't.

Sagamite:
^^^^

I must admit, I am struggling with finishing the write up as after reading one-third of the way (a long way it is), it is apparent it is the writer's personal conjectures being thrown freely and used as evidence.

If the writer could provide figures rather than stories, I would take it more seriously than just a mere conjecture.

E.g. That ITT was contracted to install comms in Nigeria, what was the figure? What was the approximate cost of installation that fell short of the figure (he should feel free using evidence like qouting other people or accusations rather than just sitting 30 years later and saying he can not see evidence of what was done).

ummm! The writer will make a good science fictionist then, what say you about IBB, Is he a thief or do you believe he looted the state treasury? Anyway I left you the writer's mail add, feel free to contact.

Sagamite:
What loot?

Any evidence he looted anything?

Fela singing a song is evidence of corruption?

Please evidence of loot from those proposing this angle so far. My suspicion is he is a businessman that made his money from business, not local council chairman.

Five [5] Billion, Doe, Abiola, Babangida, Obasanjo, Equals: June 12, 1993, Part 1
Written by Carlisle U.O. Umunnah
Tuesday, 13 June 2006 23:17
The premises surrounding the annulment of June 12, presidential elections in 1993, has remained a mystery for quite sometime now to many Nigerians. It is therefore, this writer’s mission and intentions, to unmask this treachery committed against this people; iit is a mission that depends on information resource capital-availability, including time/depth capital-availability, as well. According to my sources [names withheld], The Babangida military regime lied and misinformed Nigerians about his role leading to this unforgettable crime—the annulment of June 12 elections, 1993.



Looking up close, this is an intriguing exercise because it is believed that, a staggering estimated fifteen to twenty [15 to 20] million of the nations' population went to the polls on this day to express their freedom to choose, as demonstrated by their democratic freedom to elect a president in the nation, through democratic means. The said elections were pronounced the freest and fairest by many Nigerians and foreign observers alike, in the nation’s checkered history. It was also declared the freest and fairest in the whole of Sub-Sahara Africa [SSA]. The electioneering mechanism or methodology deployed was known as option A4. Vote and your vote will be counted at the spot not, later.



As the writer dive into the hypothesis and analysis of this whole drama, it is important that we remember that in other situations, some eyebrows were raised; some observers remarked that, evil begets evil, as evil that men do lives after them. To this group of observers or thinkers, the trio of Abiola, Obasanjo and Babangida are common criminals; they are birds of the same feathers that flocked together for over 30 years. Any wonder, why Babangida walks Minna Streets unscattered, let alone walks Nigeria Streets and Cities with his looted wealth unabashed. It was reported that he [Babangida] is shamelessly planning to run for democratic elections in 2007, when statistical data in his folders show annulments. Annulment which, evidence now reveals he and his acolytes indeed, orchestrated this ill-act of annlment, with impunity, all, for his usual self-aggrandizements—five billion dollars.



It is important to refresh our minds, review, and perhaps make, a re-assessment of lessons learned, in- so-far. First: from, International Telephone and Tele-communications [ITT], to NPN, to military coups, this group, particularly the duo of Abiola and Babangida, participated, looted, squandered and destroyed the local, regional, and national geopolitical space of this entity, called Nigeria through their mischiefs. Their actions in the aforementioned time and space, was indeed, opportunistic, that over time, produced an unprogressive paradigm shifts in the land. Remember this, yes, for 30 years, Abiola, a military apologist, assisted under the military totalitarianism[s]—totalitarianists, led by Babangida and his cronies, besieged the land for their selfish grandiose and impetuses for too long a time. For many decades, they circumvented the law, the republic and raped her mercilessly. They raped her, through bogus contracts. Other circumventionary practices indeed occurred: for example there exists, a continuous bogus security vote that goes unaccounted for, by the present and past rulers, the rest is painfully history, they say. Recently this administration, withdrew, funds from the excess oil funds, without the authorization of the National Assembly, whose duty amongst others, is to debate and approve state finanical remittances. Back to ITT, it was gathered by my sources that ITT, an extension of U.S. Central intelligence Agency [CIA] the information bubble radar for Americans on Nigeria and other nations, that seeks security details or information about nations’ technical capacity, just in case, friend turns enemy, and perhaps, if enemy of my enemy becomes my friend. This intelligence agency is fussed together vis-à-vis ITT and other U.S. overseas operations including the U.S. Peace Corps et al. At ITT, Abiola served as its Vice-Chairman for Africa and the Middle-east.



ITT, whose contract was to seek, and provide, a workable effective telephone services for the country—Nigeria, for effective communication and well-being of its people; unabashedly, the aforementioned actors and their contractors, manipulated, twisted and duped the republic. Till date, one cannot point at any telephone installations, installed across the country and its villages. What ITT did in Nigeria with the Tele-communication project is mind boggling. Either that the ITT representatives and its collaborators pocketed the funds meant for building a reliable telecommunication gridlock for the benefit and well-being of this people, or that little or no telephone services were provided for Nigerians. The allocation’s long gone and forgotten. Other cases of similar elephant projects like Ajeokunta Steel Complex, were, billions of naira, were invested have joined the list of many abandoned projects across the country. Today, Nigerians have turned to wireless phone industry, all foreign made. Sadly, it cannot and do not have the capacity to manufacture locally, nuts, to maintain them, and will never muster this needed capacity, under the current arrangement.



According to this insider, information has it that Abiola stepped on so many toes. At the then, National Party of Nigeria, [NPN] body, it was gathered that its big wigs, never trusted Abiola. Records show that Abiola, nursed the idea of becoming NPN Chairman during the party convention in the 80s, hosted in Kano. Big power brokers in then NPN, became uncomfortable with his intentions and maneuvered him off of it, to Abiola's chagrin. As it were, flight meant to carry Abiola and his crew, to the convention was disabled for unknown reasons. At the middle of the night, Abiola having discovered this machination, chartered fleets of cars and drove his way to the Northern state of Kano. Before, he lighted to the convention, his kinsman, Akinloye has been returned unopposed as NPN Party Chairman. Abiola decamped from NPN, thusly, increasing some NPN stewards' suspicions surrounding him, and surrounding those that supports him including his enemies. Their concerns were amongst other things:—fear that it will be an impossibility to muster the political will and influence, to check Abiola’s exuberant political excesses. To this group, their concern includes, handling dexterity of party policies and those at the wider national policies in an ethno-geopolitical landscape, such as, Nigeria. In addition, it was gathered that Abiola was a CIA agent, its representative partly for strategy and logistics, covering Africa and the Middle-east. There existence yet, another suspicion and other cleavages from the Northern caliphate, surrounding Abiola—this time, it is religion. The Caliph and NPN of Northern extraction sees Abiola as an opportunistic Muslim, thusly, an untrustworthy Muslim and would have nothing to do with this fellow.



By application, in Nigeria political space, from the Northern perspectives or worldviews, there is no such thing as, separation of Church and State and/or separation of Muslimism and the State. To them, the two entities are intertwined. For example, in other to reforce this suspicion parallel of Abiola, are possible motivated orthodoxies: I] Let us draw or review estimable evidence at ITT establishment if you will. It was gathered that Abiola, staged, and acted criminally in the way he took over the chairmanship at ITT, from his American boss. My source succinctly remarked that Abiola and his cronies’ dramatized this by upstaging and dethroning the Chairman at ITT. This was effectively executed by theatrically painting, photographing, blackmailing the American ITT chairman—as an eternal and unrepentant drunkard, who could not retrieve or collect American funds from the Nigerian government, even, after ITT Nigerian-operational power-house has completed its works, as assigned her. Through this machination, Abiola was upgraded and appointed ITT chairman for Africa and the Middle-east. The larger pitfalls were not long exposed. Not sooner after he was appointed ITT chairman, Abiola, opted, and demanded to work for the ITT establishment on commission basis rather than on salary pay-capped arrangement.



Abiola, now in the zone of leadership, a contract of a staggering 75 million, was upped by Abiola. Abiola, zeroed in for a kill. He greedily adding zero [0] behind seventy-five [75], that turns 75 into 750 million. He was not alone. This disposition and operation was effectively executed through collaborations with insiders who knew the ropes, mainly, some of his discredited military officers-friends at the military establishments. He got away with a crime; making a whopping illegitimate millions for himself and his friends. Our information gathering radar shows that Babangida, Obasanjo, late Shehu Musa Yar’dua and others benefited from the ITT’s emissaries, commissions and, contracts. M.K.O. Abiola, became a multi-million over-night, engineered and fortified by strong military contacts. In the meantime, this is happening at a time, the entire nation watches its dying population waste away without basic amenities such as: steady electricity, water, road or housing; lack of adequate learning facilities from primary school up to tertiary institutions; as the system systemically manufactured yet, anew, fraudulent millionaires and billionaires, who cannot, in all honesty account for the source of their wealth.



Today as we reflect on June 12, and the actors involved, let us remember also, that our record shows that Abiola and others in his category were made rich by discredited military cabal, through fraudulent and sometimes ghost contract allocations. In the same token, it is good to recall, for records, that the same discredited military friends of his, albeit, they made him rich, the same military turned around poisoned and killed him, when things were no longer at ease—and, fallen apart.



Conversely, during this spiral period, the region faced many challenges and new challenges with its attended constraints, including military activities within its surroundings. This disturbances, ended up confronting its defenseless peoples and their neighbors. Markedly, during this time, at the body: Economic Community of West African States [ECOWAS] the centers could not hold either. Khaddaffi was funding Charles Taylor from Tripoli. Commotions and wars in Liberian brought her to the verge of collapse, if not totally collapse. A challenge that defied all solutions. Liberian National Liberation Front, [LPLF], led Taylor on one end, and Yommie Johnson at another end; then, you also have other ‘mini rebel’ groups, that have gone wild, widespread, killings and maiming their peoples. All these rebel outfits from all indications, were matching toward Monrovia demanding the head of Samuel Doe, almost simultaneously.



At this instance, Doe, was believed to have contacted Babangida for technical assistance. Babangida promised heaven and earth , that he will send in ECOMOG to restore order immediately and everything will be alright. In the meantime, may I state that there is no peace in the hearts/minds of thieves especially, when it comes to stolen public funds. Nigerian looters, believe it or not, will tell you that they live in fear every second of their lives and, will probably succumb [if they refuse to repent and return public funds to their proper places] to hyper-tension, high-blood-pressure, or worst, heart-attack.


Folks, five [5] billion dollars from Liberian treasury was at stake. Liberian tyrant, Samuel Doe, have looted the Liberian treasury worth more than five billion dollars. Some of this Fund was partly, donated by USIS, and other development agencies abroad hoping to assist build and improve, Liberia and make life much better for its peoples. But, reverse was the case, its pupported leadership had a hidden agenda in their hearts—mischievousness. In the meantime as Doe and Co were running out of time, it became evident, that, regional criminals with their regional partners were desperately looking for a regional safe heaven to keep their windfall. Doe, contacted his big brother, Nigerian Field-Marshal, Babangida, for assistance. Initially, it was gathered that Babangida, refused taking-in, the five billion dollars—stating his position as a military leader. He however, directed his wife, Miriam Babangida, to assist launder the funds into her multifaceted, financial networks.


Miriam Babangida, took the five [5] billion, and quickly contacted a long time family friend, Abiolas. Information has it that Simbiat Abiola who subsequently lodged the finances into her personal account in good faith, was Miriam’s contact. Unfortunately, Simbiat went through undisclosed illness, succumbed to this illness and passed-away. The financial activities and records show that the financial documentations in respect to these financial transmissions or transactions as discovered, indicates that it was willed, to Kola Wole Abiola.


Finally another opportunity came to the Babangidas. Miriam and Babangida, came on a condolence visit to the diseased family-friend, on the passing-away of Simbiat Abiola. With this window of opportunity, it was gathered that Babangida mentioned the five [5] billion to M.K.O. Abiola. Information has it that Abiola, was outraged that financial matters could be raised by Babangida, while he was bereaved, and going through the emotions and pains of his beloved wife, Simbiat who passed away. Babangida and Miriam, left for home, to allow, the dead rest in peace. Within the space of weeks or months that year, the elections results, specifically presidential elections results, began to trickle in.


Statistical and numerical indicators show, that the first barge of results from 14 states with its computations had Abiola, winning. Babangida, contacted yet again, Abiola,asked him to release the five billion [five [5] billions dollars. Now remember, that the said five billion was Liberians, and by no means, belonged to Abiola nor Babangida. However, the two thieves fought over it. In the ensued conversation, Babangida indicated to Abiola, that if, the money wasn’t released, he will annul the entire elections. Abiola wanted to be President and also, wanted to keep the billions too. Greed! In a delusional effort, Abiola, launched into intensive search for Kola. Repeated phone calls was placed on Kola, in whose account the funds, was believed to have been deposited. Surprisingly to Abiola, Kola disappeared with the thin air. Kola, it was gathered, became a changed man, and, intentionally refused to speak, pick-up calls or converse with his father.



Perhaps, someone could tell me more about envy, suspicions and hate in polygamous family. Each family unit trying, attempting to out-do the other unit member and what not. It is important to note, that the debacle surrounding June 12, elections, its fallouts, calculations and how far we have come today is for historians to document. For this and other unspoken reasons, the election was annulled, and the rest is history. Permit me, to remark that, this is in fact, a pure affront and treachery against a whole nation, that a nation’s elections were annulled based on, amongst other things, stolen funds; stolen money that didn't by any means, belong to either of these men [Abiola and Babangida]. This was personified obviously in the deeply imbedded corruption in the land; and, may be, this teaches us that selfish reasons, greed and power, can drag communities, nations, peoples and friends into war, including fights over looted five billion dollars from Liberian and elsewhere.


Five Billion dollars/June 12 to be continued ….







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Carlisle U.O. Umunnah Is a New York Based Freelance Writer

Contact: cuu1_liberties@yahoo.com

bibiking1:
Dude, History is written so that we can learn from them. We do not have to be around during an inicdent to be knowledgeable about event. Thats why there are news prints and journals!!

Bibiking1,

Someone rightly said , ''their' minds have been stolen''. There's no more danger than that which suppresses and controls  the mind of another to comprehend. It is the same problem we are facing with the christians/muslims today, faithfuls no longer can think for themselves anymore because someone they rever has ''said so'' so it must be. History is written for correction, to preserve what evidence that has gone before, if bad should be avoided, where good, thoughts should be formed to progress the betterment of humanity. The era of paddy-paddyism and looter-to-saint MUST be done away with so that we can press forward and hit our desired mark.

KnowAll:
@Vavavoom and Aloy Emaka

So in essence Kola Abiola is a billionaire, money is evil, how come he is not flexing his money like the Dangote’s and Otedola’s even though the whole world now know they are owing the banks billions, u cannot have $5 billion dollars and be quite about it. You will want to be seeing and to be seeing is to get involve in Politics.

Why is Mohammed Abacha getting involve in Politics, it is because he has too much money, a billionaire does not sit on his laureal, they flex even the most introvert billionaire.

That is a Cock and Bull story.

You now assert that money is evil? Don't you have some in your pocket?<grin> abeg pass am come make I keep evil in my pocket. Try relating that assertion of yours to Abiola, I mean money being evil and him, haa starting to get a picture now? See unlike you I hold no brief for the thieving aristocrat: IBB, Abacha, Obj, and the bunch that have kept us all in this state. Mohammed Babaginda & even Mohammed Abacha are  scions off the line of thieves and so is Kola. Their fathers were all friends, paddy men who at various times influenced critical decisions of this country and while they may not be here today shouldn't stop anyone from asking for accountability. Wether a billionaire thief flexes with his loot or not is not the question, ABIOLA WAS NO SAINT-He frolicked with IBB and co benefitted immensely and perecivedly had a change of heart after im belle don full.

George_D:
you guys keep revising history. i'm not surprised you're towing this line-afterall you are modest enough to admit you were in jss3 during this whole saga. keep believing all the lies your racially biased uncles shoved down your throat.

At least try to counter what has been put forward instead of rabble rousing. All this holier-than thou posturing hasn't answered the question put forward, at least tell us Abiola wasn't a friend of IBB's for a start. Your likes are the type who'll have us beleive Obansanjo never did any wrong when he was in power. Tell me about the history you know about your much beloved MKO that my uncle brainwashed me about, let's hear at least the supposed friendship he had with a much dispised IBB and co. Tell me so that I no go revise am< I dey wait>

Kabikala:
Thanks Jakumo for this piece. I doff my hat for you for choosing to stand out from the crowd.

I will always admire the man MKO Abiola. He is a legend and one of the greatest Nigerians that ever lived.

Whatever anyone might have against him, Nigerians knew all these and even worse things about him but still went ahead to choose him as their president. All of these issues were publicised while he was running for president yet Nigerians preferred him and stood with him in the battle for the actualization of the mandate.

If everyone is to be tested by fire who will stand? Awolowo? Bola Ige? Azikiwe? Tai Solarin? Fela? Gani? Soyinka?[/b]But all these guys are yet heroes because their weaknesses pale in comparison to their many acts of greatness.

And to those (Aloy~Emeka and Fhemmmy) who said God did not want Abiola to rule this country, so the God you are referring to wanted Abacha, Babangida, Obasanjo and Umaru to rule us? That God must really love us.

''If everyone is to be tested by fire who will stand? Awolowo? Bola Ige? Azikiwe? Tai Solarin? Fela? Gani? Soyinka?''


Good, that's what some level heads have been trying to point out but some tribal chauvinist would have us believe otherwise.
Abiola wasn't a saint, but perceivably better than IBB, Abacha and co. And yes, God didn't want Abiola to rule, if He did MKO would have been president, that my friend shouldn't be hard ot comprehend. God's will superceedes man's.

KnowAll:
lets have the ''abounding evidence'' of the house built in Minna as a result of stolen wealth. While you are at it let's also know how Abiola was able to afford the numerous businesses he



IBB was there for 8 good years, he was selling oil to the whole world yet our Railways parked up, NEPA parked up, the Naira was devalued by 200% during his tenure, all the express-ways in the nation became death traps. If IBB has not stolen the money earned from oil through out those 8 years where is the money then, he is the custodian of the treasury.

If I give u $20 billion dollars to hold for me only to ask u for the money back, and u turn around and tell me what money. What did IBB do with all the money he earned from the sale of oil during his tenure.

In IBB case one can revisit the sins of his close colleague and partner in crime in the person of Abacha to him, it is an established fact Abacha stole in excess of $15 billion in the short time he ruled Nigeria, there is als a saying birds of the saying feather flock together.

Abacha being IBB’s right hand man was privy to the inner workings of the tresasury, if he Abacha can amass so much money in a short time how much more his mentor.

At least in Ghana in other to justify the reasons of killing all those ex president Rawlings decided not to build a house for himself insisting to the public that he his broke that is why he still lives in the official Presidential Castle.

Abeg make you try read this rejoinder:
By application, in Nigeria political space, from the Northern perspectives or worldviews, there is no such thing as, separation of Church and State and/or separation of Muslimism and the State. To them, the two entities are intertwined. For example, in other to reforce this suspicion parallel of Abiola, are possible motivated orthodoxies: I] Let us draw or review estimable evidence at ITT establishment if you will. It was gathered that Abiola, staged, and acted criminally in the way he took over the chairmanship at ITT, from his American boss. My source succinctly remarked that Abiola and his cronies’ dramatized this by upstaging and dethroning the Chairman at ITT. This was effectively executed by theatrically painting, photographing, blackmailing the American ITT chairman—as an eternal and unrepentant drunkard, who could not retrieve or collect American funds from the Nigerian government, even, after ITT Nigerian-operational power-house has completed its works, as assigned her. Through this machination, Abiola was upgraded and appointed ITT chairman for Africa and the Middle-east. The larger pitfalls were not long exposed. Not sooner after he was appointed ITT chairman, Abiola, opted, and demanded to work for the ITT establishment on commission basis rather than on salary pay-capped arrangement.

Abiola, now in the zone of leadership, a contract of a staggering 75 million, was upped by Abiola. Abiola, zeroed in for a kill. He greedily adding zero
behind seventy-five [75], that turns 75 into 750 million. He was not alone. This disposition and operation was effectively executed through collaborations with insiders who knew the ropes, mainly, some of his discredited military officers-friends at the military establishments. He got away with a crime; making a whopping illegitimate millions for himself and his friends. Our information gathering radar shows that Babangida, Obasanjo, late Shehu Musa Yar’dua and others benefited from the ITT’s emissaries, commissions and, contracts. M.K.O. Abiola, became a multi-million over-night, engineered and fortified by strong military contacts. In the meantime, this is happening at a time, the entire nation watches its dying population waste away without basic amenities such as: steady electricity, water, road or housing; lack of adequate learning facilities from primary school up to tertiary institutions; as the system systemically manufactured yet, anew, fraudulent millionaires and billionaires, who cannot, in all honesty account for the source of their wealth

At this instance, Doe, was believed to have contacted Babangida for technical assistance. Babangida promised heaven and earth , that he will send in ECOMOG to restore order immediately and everything will be alright. In the meantime, may I state that there is no peace in the hearts/minds of thieves especially, when it comes to stolen public funds. Nigerian looters, believe it or not, will tell you that they live in fear every second of their lives and, will probably succumb [if they refuse to repent and return public funds to their proper places] to hyper-tension, high-blood-pressure, or worst, heart-attack.

Folks, five [5] billion dollars from Liberian treasury was at stake. Liberian tyrant, Samuel Doe, have looted the Liberian treasury worth more than five billion dollars. Some of this Fund was partly, donated by USIS, and other development agencies abroad hoping to assist build and improve, Liberia and make life much better for its peoples. But, reverse was the case, its pupported leadership had a hidden agenda in their hearts—mischievousness. In the meantime as Doe and Co were running out of time, it became evident, that, regional criminals with their regional partners were desperately looking for a regional safe heaven to keep their windfall. Doe, contacted his big brother, Nigerian Field-Marshal, Babangida, for assistance. Initially, it was gathered that Babangida, refused taking-in, the five billion dollars—stating his position as a military leader. He however, directed his wife, Miriam Babangida, to assist launder the funds into her multifaceted, financial networks.

Miriam Babangida, took the five [5] billion, and quickly contacted a long time family friend, Abiolas. Information has it that Simbiat Abiola who subsequently lodged the finances into her personal account in good faith, was Miriam’s contact. Unfortunately, Simbiat went through undisclosed illness, succumbed to this illness and passed-away. The financial activities and records show that the financial documentations in respect to these financial transmissions or transactions as discovered, indicates that it was willed, to Kola Wole Abiola.

Finally another opportunity came to the Babangidas. Miriam and Babangida, came on a condolence visit to the diseased family-friend, on the passing-away of Simbiat Abiola. With this window of opportunity, it was gathered that Babangida mentioned the five [5] billion to M.K.O. Abiola. Information has it that Abiola, was outraged that financial matters could be raised by Babangida, while he was bereaved, and going through the emotions and pains of his beloved wife, Simbiat who passed away. Babangida and Miriam, left for home, to allow, the dead rest in peace. Within the space of weeks or months that year, the elections results, specifically presidential elections results, began to trickle in.

Statistical and numerical indicators show, that the first barge of results from 14 states with its computations had Abiola, winning. Babangida, contacted yet again, Abiola,asked him to release the five billion [five [5] billions dollars. Now remember, that the said five billion was Liberians, and by no means, belonged to Abiola nor Babangida. However, the two thieves fought over it. In the ensued conversation, Babangida indicated to Abiola, that if, the money wasn’t released, he will annul the entire elections. Abiola wanted to be President and also, wanted to keep the billions too. Greed! In a delusional effort, Abiola, launched into intensive search for Kola. Repeated phone calls was placed on Kola, in whose account the funds, was believed to have been deposited. Surprisingly to Abiola, Kola disappeared with the thin air. Kola, it was gathered, became a changed man, and, intentionally refused to speak, pick-up calls or converse with his father.

Carlisle U.O. Umunnah Is a New York Based Freelance Writer

Contact: cuu1_liberties@yahoo.com

June 2006

http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=3238

Aloy~Emeka:
By application, in Nigeria political space, from the Northern perspectives or worldviews, there is no such thing as, separation of Church and State and/or separation of Muslimism and the State. To them, the two entities are intertwined. For example, in other to reforce this suspicion parallel of Abiola, are possible motivated orthodoxies: I] [b]Let us draw or review estimable evidence at ITT establishment if you will. It was gathered that Abiola, staged, and acted criminally in the way he took over the chairmanship at ITT, from his American boss. My source succinctly remarked that Abiola and his cronies’ dramatized this by upstaging and dethroning the Chairman at ITT. This was effectively executed by theatrically painting, photographing, blackmailing the American ITT chairman—as an eternal and unrepentant drunkard, who could not retrieve or collect American funds from the Nigerian government, even, after ITT Nigerian-operational power-house has completed its works, as assigned her. Through this machination, Abiola was upgraded and appointed ITT chairman for Africa and the Middle-east. The larger pitfalls were not long exposed. Not sooner after he was appointed ITT chairman, Abiola, opted, and demanded to work for the ITT establishment on commission basis rather than on salary pay-capped arrangement.

Abiola, now in the zone of leadership, a contract of a staggering 75 million, was upped by Abiola. Abiola, zeroed in for a kill. He greedily adding zero [0] behind seventy-five [75], that turns 75 into 750 million. He was not alone. This disposition and operation was effectively executed through collaborations with insiders who knew the ropes, mainly, some of his discredited military officers-friends at the military establishments. He got away with a crime; making a whopping illegitimate millions for himself and his friends. Our information gathering radar shows that Babangida, Obasanjo, late Shehu Musa Yar’dua and others benefited from the ITT’s emissaries, commissions and, contracts. M.K.O. Abiola, became a multi-million over-night, engineered and fortified by strong military contacts. In the meantime, this is happening at a time, the entire nation watches its dying population waste away without basic amenities such as: steady electricity, water, road or housing; lack of adequate learning facilities from primary school up to tertiary institutions; as the system systemically manufactured yet, anew, fraudulent millionaires and billionaires, who cannot, in all honesty account for the source of their wealth[/b]

At this instance, Doe, was believed to have contacted Babangida for technical assistance. Babangida promised heaven and earth , that he will send in ECOMOG to restore order immediately and everything will be alright. In the meantime, may I state that there is no peace in the hearts/minds of thieves especially, when it comes to stolen public funds. Nigerian looters, believe it or not, will tell you that they live in fear every second of their lives and, will probably succumb [if they refuse to repent and return public funds to their proper places] to hyper-tension, high-blood-pressure, or worst, heart-attack.

Folks, five [5] billion dollars from Liberian treasury was at stake. Liberian tyrant, Samuel Doe, have looted the Liberian treasury worth more than five billion dollars. Some of this Fund was partly, donated by USIS, and other development agencies abroad hoping to assist build and improve, Liberia and make life much better for its peoples. But, reverse was the case, its pupported leadership had a hidden agenda in their hearts—mischievousness. In the meantime as Doe and Co were running out of time, it became evident, that, regional criminals with their regional partners were desperately looking for a regional safe heaven to keep their windfall. Doe, contacted his big brother, Nigerian Field-Marshal, Babangida, for assistance. Initially, it was gathered that Babangida, refused taking-in, the five billion dollars—stating his position as a military leader. He however, directed his wife, Miriam Babangida, to assist launder the funds into her multifaceted, financial networks.

Miriam Babangida, took the five [5] billion, and quickly contacted a long time family friend, Abiolas. Information has it that Simbiat Abiola who subsequently lodged the finances into her personal account in good faith, was Miriam’s contact. Unfortunately, Simbiat went through undisclosed illness, succumbed to this illness and passed-away. The financial activities and records show that the financial documentations in respect to these financial transmissions or transactions as discovered, indicates that it was willed, to Kola Wole Abiola.

Finally another opportunity came to the Babangidas. Miriam and Babangida, came on a condolence visit to the diseased family-friend, on the passing-away of Simbiat Abiola. With this window of opportunity, it was gathered that Babangida mentioned the five [5] billion to M.K.O. Abiola. Information has it that Abiola, was outraged that financial matters could be raised by Babangida, while he was bereaved, and going through the emotions and pains of his beloved wife, Simbiat who passed away. Babangida and Miriam, left for home, to allow, the dead rest in peace. Within the space of weeks or months that year, the elections results, specifically presidential elections results, began to trickle in.

Statistical and numerical indicators show, that the first barge of results from 14 states with its computations had Abiola, winning. Babangida, contacted yet again, Abiola,asked him to release the five billion [five [5] billions dollars. Now remember, that the said five billion was Liberians, and by no means, belonged to Abiola nor Babangida. However, the two thieves fought over it. In the ensued conversation, Babangida indicated to Abiola, that if, the money wasn’t released, he will annul the entire elections. Abiola wanted to be President and also, wanted to keep the billions too. Greed! In a delusional effort, Abiola, launched into intensive search for Kola. Repeated phone calls was placed on Kola, in whose account the funds, was believed to have been deposited. Surprisingly to Abiola, Kola disappeared with the thin air. Kola, it was gathered, became a changed man, and, intentionally refused to speak, pick-up calls or converse with his father.

Carlisle U.O. Umunnah Is a New York Based Freelance Writer

Contact: cuu1_liberties@yahoo.com

June 2006

http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=3238

Aloy, now, that's backing up position with facts. I was in my JSS3 when the whole IBB-Abiola paddy-paddy went up in smoke, even as at then I wondered how so close a friendship was perceivedly being ruined by IBB, but somehow as a teenager I got to know this story although not as factual as you have it here. Nice work bro. Bravo, keep telling it as it is even if some tribal apologist are bent on telling us otherwise. Like someone said, ''there minds have been stolen, brainwashed to the point where half-truths is the real deal.

kirkmikel:
Shame on all of you, you all will die one day and your names will be dragged in the mud eternally and i am sure most of you are yahoo yahoo boys because maga no gree pay again you need somewhere to pour your anger and some IDIOT gave you an avenue .

Lack of what to say abi? Respond to the article, trying to defend the indefensible.

Aloy~Emeka:
By application, in Nigeria political space, from the Northern perspectives or worldviews, there is no such thing as, separation of Church and State and/or separation of Muslimism and the State. To them, the two entities are intertwined. For example, in other to reforce this suspicion parallel of Abiola, are possible motivated orthodoxies: I] [b]Let us draw or review estimable evidence at ITT establishment if you will. It was gathered that Abiola, staged, and acted criminally in the way he took over the chairmanship at ITT, from his American boss. My source succinctly remarked that Abiola and his cronies’ dramatized this by upstaging and dethroning the Chairman at ITT. This was effectively executed by theatrically painting, photographing, blackmailing the American ITT chairman—as an eternal and unrepentant drunkard, who could not retrieve or collect American funds from the Nigerian government, even, after ITT Nigerian-operational power-house has completed its works, as assigned her. Through this machination, Abiola was upgraded and appointed ITT chairman for Africa and the Middle-east. The larger pitfalls were not long exposed. Not sooner after he was appointed ITT chairman, Abiola, opted, and demanded to work for the ITT establishment on commission basis rather than on salary pay-capped arrangement.

Abiola, now in the zone of leadership, a contract of a staggering 75 million, was upped by Abiola. Abiola, zeroed in for a kill. He greedily adding zero [0] behind seventy-five [75], that turns 75 into 750 million. He was not alone. This disposition and operation was effectively executed through collaborations with insiders who knew the ropes, mainly, some of his discredited military officers-friends at the military establishments. He got away with a crime; making a whopping illegitimate millions for himself and his friends. Our information gathering radar shows that Babangida, Obasanjo, late Shehu Musa Yar’dua and others benefited from the ITT’s emissaries, commissions and, contracts. M.K.O. Abiola, became a multi-million over-night, engineered and fortified by strong military contacts. In the meantime, this is happening at a time, the entire nation watches its dying population waste away without basic amenities such as: steady electricity, water, road or housing; lack of adequate learning facilities from primary school up to tertiary institutions; as the system systemically manufactured yet, anew, fraudulent millionaires and billionaires, who cannot, in all honesty account for the source of their wealth[/b]

At this instance, Doe, was believed to have contacted Babangida for technical assistance. Babangida promised heaven and earth , that he will send in ECOMOG to restore order immediately and everything will be alright. In the meantime, may I state that there is no peace in the hearts/minds of thieves especially, when it comes to stolen public funds. Nigerian looters, believe it or not, will tell you that they live in fear every second of their lives and, will probably succumb [if they refuse to repent and return public funds to their proper places] to hyper-tension, high-blood-pressure, or worst, heart-attack.

Folks, five [5] billion dollars from Liberian treasury was at stake. Liberian tyrant, Samuel Doe, have looted the Liberian treasury worth more than five billion dollars. Some of this Fund was partly, donated by USIS, and other development agencies abroad hoping to assist build and improve, Liberia and make life much better for its peoples. But, reverse was the case, its pupported leadership had a hidden agenda in their hearts—mischievousness. In the meantime as Doe and Co were running out of time, it became evident, that, regional criminals with their regional partners were desperately looking for a regional safe heaven to keep their windfall. Doe, contacted his big brother, Nigerian Field-Marshal, Babangida, for assistance. Initially, it was gathered that Babangida, refused taking-in, the five billion dollars—stating his position as a military leader. He however, directed his wife, Miriam Babangida, to assist launder the funds into her multifaceted, financial networks.

Miriam Babangida, took the five [5] billion, and quickly contacted a long time family friend, Abiolas. Information has it that Simbiat Abiola who subsequently lodged the finances into her personal account in good faith, was Miriam’s contact. Unfortunately, Simbiat went through undisclosed illness, succumbed to this illness and passed-away. The financial activities and records show that the financial documentations in respect to these financial transmissions or transactions as discovered, indicates that it was willed, to Kola Wole Abiola.

Finally another opportunity came to the Babangidas. Miriam and Babangida, came on a condolence visit to the diseased family-friend, on the passing-away of Simbiat Abiola. With this window of opportunity, it was gathered that Babangida mentioned the five [5] billion to M.K.O. Abiola. Information has it that Abiola, was outraged that financial matters could be raised by Babangida, while he was bereaved, and going through the emotions and pains of his beloved wife, Simbiat who passed away. Babangida and Miriam, left for home, to allow, the dead rest in peace. Within the space of weeks or months that year, the elections results, specifically presidential elections results, began to trickle in.

Statistical and numerical indicators show, that the first barge of results from 14 states with its computations had Abiola, winning. Babangida, contacted yet again, Abiola,asked him to release the five billion [five [5] billions dollars. Now remember, that the said five billion was Liberians, and by no means, belonged to Abiola nor Babangida. However, the two thieves fought over it. In the ensued conversation, Babangida indicated to Abiola, that if, the money wasn’t released, he will annul the entire elections. Abiola wanted to be President and also, wanted to keep the billions too. Greed! In a delusional effort, Abiola, launched into intensive search for Kola. Repeated phone calls was placed on Kola, in whose account the funds, was believed to have been deposited. Surprisingly to Abiola, Kola disappeared with the thin air. Kola, it was gathered, became a changed man, and, intentionally refused to speak, pick-up calls or converse with his father.

Carlisle U.O. Umunnah Is a New York Based Freelance Writer

Contact: cuu1_liberties@yahoo.com

June 2006

http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=3238
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Aloy, now, that's backing up position with facts. I was in my JSS3 when the whole IBB-Abiola paddy-paddy went up in smoke, even as at then I wondered how so close a friendship was perceivedly being ruined by IBB, but somehow as a teenager I got to know this story although not as factual as you have it here. Nice work bro. Bravo, keep telling it as it is even if some tribal apologist are bent on telling us otherwise. Like someone said, ''there minds have been stolen, brainwashed to the point where half-truths is the real deal.

bricks:
Bill Gates was not born into poverty. He cam from upper middle class family in Seattle. But like you mentioned his source of wealth can easily be traced and is legit. Has he been an honest businessman? Far from it.

i never siad any one of them was born into poverty!

John D. had many dishonest business dealings and they were well documented even though he largely made the world a better place through philanthropy. His price-fixing eventually forced US Supreme court to break his company into present day Exxon, Mobil, Chevron, Conoco, BP, Amoco, etc. So, he was involved in dishonest/below the table business dealings.

John D rockerfella was almost an absolute monopolist then;and what do monolpolist do?, SET PRICES(check your elemenary economics)
his monoploy was broken because he was become too powerful by virtue of his oil exploration exploits and control.that iis why they brought up those charges against him.

While many of them struck 'Gold' legit, they use illegitimate/dishonest means to build on it. I just gave you examples of illegitimate means the billionaires you mentioned used to consolidate wealth. Do you know how many companies Microsoft or Oracle has killed to build on their owner's wealth


Do you undersatnd what capitalism is?,,what agressive busines competition is, ?what monopoloy is all about?

note that not too long ago,the fate that befell rockerfella'ss bizness almost happened to bill Gates when microsoft was to be broken up,but Gates won the suit and today,he still on top!

point is,you cannot be in business and not take down or in your own trems"kill" your competitors if u re big enough.

it is also sometimes called aquisitions and buy-out, and business strategy, if played withing the law becomes completely legal regardless of what sentiments you might have for the smaller competitor.

this is quite different from what we are discussing here.

good research though

Bricks, at least Cool G did some research unlike some trained apologist, ones who come on here to parrot another's life as if it was the creed we all must follow.

KnowAll:
was ibb ever prosecuted for stealing public funds to enrich himself? Then how do you know he actually stole from Nigeria?


The subject matter here is Abiola not IBB, secondly it could easily have been assumed that IBB being the custodian of the treasury for 8 years might be tempted to pilfer evidence abound to show that the house built in Minna could not have been built by that of the salary of a General in the army.

Abiola did not have that kind of luxury of seeing the country’s income coming in, going out and despatch to various projects.

In the same assumptive vein, Abiola was friend to folks that had the luxury of which IBB was one. And oh!, please let's have the ''abounding evidence'' of the house built in Minna as a result of stolen wealth. While you are at it let's also know how Abiola was able to afford the numerous businesses he owned while alive. Cue? Begin with Concord airline

Shooga27:
THIS FOUM IS FOOL OF SADDDEST,VAVAVOOF,BIDEMI SELL OUT, AND CO.EMPTY BARREL GET A LIFE.
YOUR GENERATION WHICH THEY HAD MKO, IDIOTS!

And you in all wisdom posting within is part of the forum of, amazing. Diction isn't that hard.
So Bidemi12 is a sell-out because he'd seen the light? Further benumbing, I wish I could suffer fools gladly I can understand your inability to put forwar cogent replies and thus resort to name-calling, I reserve pity for you as you diss me not because of superiority in arguing forth your point but for the frustration of putting anyone meaniful one forward. When you leave a remark calling another an idiot, onlookers walk by and wonder how a sane person keeps a conversation going with one they consider an idiot. Please try and own a thought, e go help you for this life.

bidemi12:
@knowall was ibb ever prosecuted for stealing public funds to enrich himself? Then how do you know he actually stole from Nigeria?

Because (s)he, knowall says so. It is right when it suit me and wrong when it suits others.

bidemi12:
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still talkin thrash

first he looted the treasury
now hes a coupist

what again

a ritualist?
lol


You never know man. You said it i didn't

whoever invented sacarsm, . to good effect 12

bidemi12:
@vavavoom i hope he has a good reply to that.

I hope too,Bidemi12. Perhaps it would have been sensible to avoid talking about the dead at all-in good or bad light. This kind of see-no evil speak no-evil mentaility about folks who have influenced my life as well as theirs is just benumbing. What next, let their children come and piss on my face? Wetin bad, bad, wetin good, good. Make we call am like that.

KnowAll:
Abiola was a coupist



How can a civilian be coupist, we hear a lot in NL, Kolo on the loose.

The act of coup plotting or ''coupism'' is not something reserved for the military. There are military coup as well as boardroom coups just so you would know. If in the execution of any of the coups in Nigeria his hands could be traced then he just was that, civilians with the help of military can take over a government by coup and vice versa. Just some clarification.

Shooga27:
BIG SHAME ON ALL THE NEGATIVE COMMENT POSTED,IS NOT GOOD TO TALK EVIL ABOUT THE DEAD.
NIGERIA IS FULL OF RUMOURS,I STILL DON'T GET IT, WHY WOULD EFCC INTERFAIR IN FAMILY ISSUE.
ABIOLA IS STILL NUMBER ONE NIGERIAN INDUSTRIALIST STOP BAD BELLE, YOU SHOULD PRAY TO HAVE SUCH MAN IN your GENERATION.
YORUBA GBAYI!

@ Shooga,

You don't think the actions or inactions or while-alive decsions that were made by Abiola in some ways are affecting this country at present? If you do shouldn't we learn from them, or because he's dead we should repeat same? What is in question is not the good deeds of Abiola but that he was and will remain part of this nation's historical antecedents-both his good and bad will be brought to the fore just like OBJ, IBB, ABACHA et al. When it suits you we shouldn't talk about the evil done by the dead but it's easy to talk about a dead that did good by his acts of industrialisation, warped logic.

nuzo:
Would it be right for me to give chimaroke a pass for investing his huge loots in nigeria? NO!
For the fact that people are defending Abiola because of their ethnic affiliation with him shows us why nigeria may never work as one.

Abiola was a coupist and a common criminal. Period!

Nuzo,

It is what the stealing elite have over the years succeeded in doing: Keep the poor amongst them confused-the rule by the principle of split loyalty. Throwing crumbs and watch us react to what rightfully should have been our commonwealth. Why many still defend the stupendously wealthy in their clan against the common sense of reason is the crux of the matter.  My reasoning is this: If they, the rich could come up with a system that over the years have kept us like this, why can't we the many DEMAND and exert ourselves for change in the system instead of fronting for our tribe, but again this takes a level of consciousness abi?

mygladness:
Why is Abiola so disparaged on this forum?

I could not just believe all these are being said about a philanthropist whose status remains unmatched twelve years after.

I had a lecturer in the University who is from the East, until we called him to order, this man will spend almost half of his lecture time telling us how he had the privilege of globe trotting with Abiola on his repatriation campaign against the Western countries. He would reel out number of people, associations, community, and clubs that cut across ethic groups that are benefiting from Abiola's wealth by a way of sponsorship, scholarship, project execution and other form of support.
I was at an event where Abiola was the special guest, this man came in and greeted everyone warmly - a demonstration of humility that is uncommon among his likes.

Why would you accuse of Abiola of looting when he did not hold any political office in his life -time?

I believe the man made his money as a smart businessman except there is an evidence contrary to this position which should be brought forward if exist.  

Please let's be guided in our utterances.

Hardly disparaging Mygladness. An awareness is being created that was never before seen or allowed. Yes he did all that and more, but if you ask IBBs apologist<they may not be aplenty> they'll tell you same, ask the Onagoruwas, the Lulu-briggs, the Iboris and you surely will hear their praise-sing mantra from their ''god-sent'' godfathers. Abiola chose to side with and gave many people succor but he WAS NO SAINT!

KnowAll:
We are not saying the thread should be locked, or the thread deleted, all we are reminding the poster is,  since it is an establish fact that  Abiola has never held a political post in Nigeria b4, the wording of the title of the thread “ Abiola spent all his loot “ is a deliberate attempt to tarnish the respect and enviable interest the name attracts within the four corners of our nation.

I will hope the poster is man enough to edit the post.
Thank you.

Mr.knowAll, he may not have held political apointments but he frolicked with the Abachas & IBBs of this world, who if you were asked to assess I have slight doubt you'd paint in esteemable light. Perhaps he benefited before the fall from the loins of his friendship with IBB and co, monetary wise, possibly or contracts which we can hardly treat in isolation when matters of national treasury is put on question. So why he may not have directly orchestrated the financial ill-dealings from the Rock he most likely than not benefitted from his standing with them. And please spare us this in africa thingy you are spouting about the dead and not speaking bad about them. Corrective measures are instituted for learning, learnings implemented to forestall futuristic occurence of same mishaps. Perhaps the Elite alive today should consider that a coming day they shall cease to exist and paint their history accordingly in good light while alive.

So the question in context is: What should come first, steal and then repent to assuage the feelings of those agreived by investing in them or stay out of the circle and try to influence their lot?

There are two sides to every coin, head and tail. As humans, we are people who make good choices but not all the time, sometimes we fall and make the wrong choice at a particular time in history.

For the Abiola apologist, he wasn't a saint, he made some bad choices in his bid to climb to the top<most wealthy people do, not a Nigerian thing, check the foundation of most Blue chip companies, how they got there will marvel you>; but having got there decided it was time to side with the masses against the wish of the prevailing status quo<that is the main wahala with Nigeria>, Abacha and co next in line have not had their fills and you want to close ''come-chop I-chop''? So his intentions, good and all-representing were quashed by the hands of those who needed the system to remain the way it was-THE WAY IT STILL IS. So against this back drop I understand the folks who see MKO only as a repentant thief better than the many who were and before him in the corridors of power.

It is so easy a thing to drum up ethnic sentiments when questions of integrity is brought to fore in Nigeria, did he at the time of ITT consider the common good of all or just what will take him to the top? If he did, perhaps we would have been a better nation communication wise, but he did not, and received no less condemnation from arguably the front runner on government criticisms; his fellow westerner, Baba 70, Abami Eda, Fela.

Some say he's a legend. That I doubt, maybe to those who shared from his benevolence. Legend in or of what? The communication he failed to provide? Certainly a repentant social crusader in his later life but this in itself shouldn't detract from the fact that he was no saint and part of why we are what we are as a nation. If we beam the search on IBB nay Abacha and most of the tired NL apologist are asked to give a view on him it is certain we'll have apologist who must one way or another had benefitted from his benevolence but it doesn't take away his shortcomings when brought into focus.
For all we know Abiola was once friends with IBB, tells you alot.

Perhaps, in his second bite at the cherry there was light or light started emanating from his good works which gave hope to many nay apologist, but somewhere in the dark cesspit of our nation, his name will always be linked to despots like Abacha, IBB, and co. His apologist may not like it but again so do many away from the truth.

Ebonyeyes:
Oh my days your crazy funny

As for the cute d//k sentiment, why would that mean she has seen enough? It could just be an innocent observation
Oh my days I will literally die of laughter in NL o!! You have to tell her with tact sha if not you will not have bedmatics at all

shesi:
Absolutely Not. It means she's seen too many (which is in itself not a problem but why does she remember them? lol). If he doesn't think it immediately, he'll think it later trust me.

and i dont know where you got this article from but i dont think guys in general value compliments that much. Maybe because we spend our whole lives dishing out bogus compliments to you ladies so when we hear one we can't help but doubt it's authenticity.lol

and the "nice arms" thing is so cliche. you're gonna tell your husband who hasn't been to the gym in decades nice arms? lol

and nice feet? i mean feet? i can't think of any guy i know who cares too much about his feet.

Spot on Shesi.
Beauty compliments are better passed on women than on men. Compliment a man in his duty to work hard and provide for the family. If as a woman he's at a point in the house carrying out home improvement, moving the fridge, changing the rails, cleaning the cluttered sink ets, look for the light items and assist in bringing them closer to his workstation. When you do get there then, offer restrengthening compliments: of course about the items that have just been moved! Makes it real and appreciated. Otherwise he'd see through it like Shesi said. The same is true with women, give them the beauty compliments and ''act it''! You can't at the minute say she's got beautiful finger nails and moments later fail to open the door! keep them in tandem, wether you are a woman or man.