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fredoooooo: united na pdp , how is that not a penaltyNo doubt there - Howard Webb was the fourth official , must have whispered into the earpiece to Michael Oliver the referee, ''you dare not give it'' Even the Neviller said it was a penalty, well we've come to expect this The Man-United League. |
In all of this I ask: How was/is the welfare of people who worked/work in their enviable vineyard to whose praise we sing, how? Behind every great wealth...@ OP, can you do us a summary of what working under these people demands? Condition of service and service welfare generally Shouldn't be hard. Insightful, but somewhere in there more lay undiscovered - prevent us from conjecturing. Lead us to the complete knowledge of the dynasty. lol @ PDude, maybe naim u take enter, who knew? |
Our continued failure isn't borne out of foresight or dearth of knowledge but as a result of a conscious and deliberate choice to put self/region above nation. It is true that in the history of other nations we can point to this same malice but must we thread that road? Must we go through the wilderness if there exist an alternative all-encompassing, all-embracing route to the top of the mountain? I find it hard to swallow that in a world where the route to success has a map we have navigated purposefully ontoward self-destruction. The question is how can we create statesmen/nationalist out of a system that has eschewed necessary values requisite for statehood? Except we make a different pass as a people, a U-turn we will have to accept that the nouveau-riche from amongst our tribes will only become keener in maintaining the status quo. Be alert to self-criticism, purge self whenever, after all the people we often times cite for our backwardness maybe powerful but without our connivance willfully or wide indifference they hardly will be our oppressors. |
NorthSharp:@ NorthSharp, wouldn't it have been lovely if it was that simple? You will find at the behest of the northern oligarch are 'ordinary' northern men seeking survival and rankadedeing after crumbs. The north is o riled with feudal/caste system in which the oligarch sits atop the food chain. So my friend it will be a hard sell to try to 'delink' both classes - hell will freeze over before the oligarchs will let you, their cover and major bargaining regional chip go. When they shout and talk about resource allocation don't you recognize the first port of reference is population size? No kidding man, it is the way it is - a conundrum which benefits he status quo. |
It shouldn't be a rule thing - ask the other party, go Dutch if the circumstance dictates. |
, they surely are not repeating our mistakes. Sign of a people willing to learn and take the lead. |
While we are discussing this fervent need to redistribute our commonwealth shouldn't we revisit and ask the oligarchs from the north who apportioned oil blocks in the regimes of IBB and Abacha to include the good yielding offshore blocks like OML 110 (Cavendish Petroleum, owned by alhaji Mai Deribe awarded by Abacha for nothing?) How about OML 115 ( Oriental Energy, by IBB's in-law Alhaji Indimi)? How about the one run by Ado Bayero, Seplat Petroleum ( Asuokpu/Umutu fields) or would they prefer OPL 246 by TY Danjuma - the one he farmed out a portion and collected cool USD 1 Billion from CNOOC abi na OMLs 112/117 owned by the son in-law of Aburbakar the second Minna General, I could go on to include Rilwan Lukman (AFREN ENRGY) and co but the point is shouldn't these state owned assest gifted to these Owners of Nigeria be part of what we put up for discussion? Nigeria, what a pity. |
After all the chest-beating, bravado bleating and SA hating . Like some one said it is back to recharging MTN cards, paying DSTV bill, shopping at Shoprite and Stanbic IBTC pension update, it seems they've got our number ![]() |
@big Sean, No mind the slowpoke. Came back with the same retort after a 50 minute interval- weda na hissy fit from excited hormones of a ''small victory'' abi na outright - I guess it truly is hard to free i.d.i.o.t.s (read f.o.o.l.s, if u will) from the chains they revere. We really need to put our house in order to earn the respect we desre. I was in Ghana last month and was shocked to see different rules applied to Schlumberger staffing - when I enquired why position which in Nigeria were tagged ''contract staff'' are regarded as staff positions I was told the government of Ghana cum union set the rules that everybody as long as they work for Schlumberger must do so as staff - be they drivers/cleaners and other rung-of-the -adder personnel. I shook my head, and couldn't believe my ears. Same company, different rules. So there you go. |
cantell:I know you got experience in doing this, but I haven't got an ''i.d.i.o.t-control'' button. So here's the deal, revel, drink to your ego, tomorrow when we wake the fundamental flaws of our country would have solved themselves. |
Nayah:If one keeps feeding someone's expectation then such feedback will resonate as a trait rather than an exception. It is easy to identify a Nigerian in public space - most times never shy, boisterous, SMART(insert SHARP), and can be friendly to a fault. But it shouldn't detract that when we go to a place we have to understand that the rules can and are different. The problem mostly is the ''SHARP'' Nigerian created by the need to survive in an envirnment that has failed him/her. This is where the problem lie - the system hasn't created an enabling environment for people with smart minds to be positive with their ''smartness'' and these ones gradually slide into this habit. In no time it assumes the norm and when they travel out constitute the bad eggs smearing all of us. Of course it takes a mind discernable enough not to generalize and try to sift the few bad eggs from the good ones, easy said than done. All Nigerians are not bad, but we must fashion out a way to punish the few smearing the image of the country with their bad practices everywhere they choose to reside. It is the only way to curb the stereotype. In some way the battle is similar to every muslim being a terrorist, which is not true. The first step is to admit that we have this image problem brought about by the practice of ''SHARPNESS'' and not hide behind the ''there are people like that the worldover comment'', tackle head on and fine tune changes as we go. |
cantell:Thank you for re-reading my comments. My response above still suffice. |
merengue:lololol Merengue, I didn't plan on hurting my back, ''come and fight'' diplomacy, you killed me with that line - Voltron truly don win. I guess I must be SuperTed Anyway sha satisfaction from small victories, after all am an Arsenal Fan - these days when we lose we even win! because every body else is agaisnt us! |
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cantell:Am sorry you are caught with the wrong acquaintance, if your circle only moves about then you've defined yourself. Pity me, I don't exist to please your niche - not o.r.g.a.s.m.i.c and can't shake your bravado fantasy, least if I agreed with you, both of us will still be wrong ![]() And since you travel faster than light to hear and see guys who talk like shyte, am sure I have heard you but sorry amigo, you don't sound brighter |
nezpablo:@Nez, I have no problem with the tit-for-tat instrument in responding to diplomatic rows- it happens the world over. The South Africans in their gaffe were only looking to prey on a country that has chosen not to address how our economic bed is laid. Why are we arming them instead of putting our house in order and schooling them in the art of diplomacy? The South Africans know that proper diplomatic channels require for the foreign affairs minister to be commnunicated first, the travellers involved quarantined for minimum of 7 days at their cost and if unresolved before any deportation can take place as enshrinde in the United Nations' and Geneva Charters. But becasue we have idiotic leaders who would only react when a senator is involved and every other non-privileged citizen becomes a castaway and a reason for discontent then nobody acts. We MUST treat ourselves with WORTH, first then expect the respect from others. For all we know this could be a test case for something other diplomatic rows. 2010, it was Sudan, last year it was Britain, small Ghana dey do their own e no go tay Niger too go begin treat us with contempt because our house has fallen and in disorder. We need to demand things begin to happen right before our pariah status get out of hand. |
kokoA:Am not suprised, after all you as a black man has this as your signature, ''if you want to hide something from a black man put it in a book''. So much for someone literate and demanding ''self esteem''. Don't let that laugh trip you, cos the joke is on you man. |
Kolababa:@ Kolababa, leave the ostriches to hide their heads in sand instead of addressing basic flaws in our system. |
kokoA:And as silly as you come it didn't occur to your blockhead that we have been certified yellow fever free after 1995 by WHO and that a serious country would have in place a foreign affairs minister who understands such simple matters and have it in bilateral travel agreements so that Nigerian travelling would be exempted at the point of entry. Like I say if you can't see the big picture there's nothing I can do for you. Now, go and dim the light in your room, beat your chest in victory ![]() |
Reference:lol @ Reference. Tongue in cheek? But what happens when the manufacturers of the aircraft carrier cum missles move on a place a pricey premium on those weapons? Might takes you somewhere, brain(knowledge) takes you everywhere, I should think. Maybe we should work hard to have a knowledge-driven economy? |
kokoA:I look at your pronouncements and then check your siggy ,(''If you wann hide something from a black man put it in a book'') really? - I laugh in hysteria that someone who harps on Self Esteem could have a counter punchline contradicting their so-called belief in self worth. Do you know why that line was written or as usual in your lost sense of beign an african giant you just copied and posted that line? Take it away friend, please and then come with another line 'cos if you don;t know it is a wicked jibe by whites thrown at blacks to portray their dislike towards a reading culture. Talk about irony! I don't focus on negative. I only admit that we have problems, weighty ones we should be addessing. That my friend is the difference between us. |
dmainboss:My friend, I have said I can't help you as it is - the matter in question is self-purge, in-house cleansing - I bother little about what challenges other countries struggle with, my grouse is how we have laid our bed. If you can't get the picture, I sincerely cannot help you. That we are in a pittiable state is our making wether South Africans shoot, rape, themselves daily. |
[b]Nigerians feeling bad about the diplomatic row, I understand. But it isn't a time to blow hot air and beat one's chest about being a ghoustly giant - a gargantuan economic apparition . It pains me as well to be hassled across and to be looked at differently whenever I travel, but the fault is not with the other man because of the way I have chosen to lay my bed. The sense I get is we mostly have come to the conclusion that we are ''SHARP" people instead of people who would do right by laying and following a right path. So, we feel akward when we go out and normal procedures and routine channels of communication are demanded. If someone calls you a name you detest the onus is on you to show him that you are not by ACTION not by comical utterances of supposedly unseen high achievements, we haven't shown by our management capacity or lack of it that we can run anything properly (see HITV, those of you clamouring to drive out DSTV |
Nayah:What is it that you know, what is this ''hidden something'' ? Perhaps you should reread my response, if we hadn't arm them with our half measure ways of doing things there would be conspiracy theory you seem to have up your head. Hiding our head in sand won't make it go away, now is the time to address our fundamentals squarely otherwise na Cotonnou, Niger, Sudan etc to treat our people with contempt. |
dmainboss:You seem lost in self bravado. I can't save you if you cant understand and resort to repeat response that are offline. What you should ask yourself is would the South Africans have deported them if it wasn't all-too eveident at Murtala International that anyone could put down 2,500 Naira right in front of the SAA staff and board a plane to SA. And this on a matter that they have previously complained about to the government. Keep hiding your head in the sand and behave like it doesn't happen. I have pointed the way to the solution and what every concerned Nigerian should be demanding: We got clearance from WHO in 1995 and were certified clean of Yellow Fever, why on earth was it not scripted in our Bilateral relations with SA? Make you dey there dey argue about who corrupt pass as is that one naim affect me as a Nigerian. |
klas:Good question. These are issues a well-informed and proifessional foreign affairs minster/ambsador should cover - bilaterally this should have been pointed clearly that Nigeria is Yellow Fever free! But we have chosen to give patronage to friends with no capaity for the job and whose only interest is in the office. Now is the time to ask what these ambasadors and foregin reps do instead of beating our chest as giant of nothing. Any one with clearly understanding of diplomacy would question how a country certified free of yellow fever by a renown WHO didn't take proper steps/went to sleep >: on an issue that should have been enshrined in bilateral agreements. Yellow fever card is required from us in Ghana, oga minister oya over to you. |
dmainboss:wow and you read all that garbage and responded? Take a chill pill man the issue ain't with Zuma, Iraqis and Amigos but Nigerians . No one is saying the South Africans couldn't have handle things differently but the question is why arm them with a reason to treat your people with disdain? Nigeria is not the only corrupt country in the world but it doesn't affect me if Saddam and co decides to sell off their country but what the Iboris and co do does affect me, kapish? Besides, it doesn't make corruption acceptable because other leaders loot their nations dry. People won't respect you if you don't first, respect yourself. |
debosky:Debosky no mind them. Let us continue to do things by half , I won't put it past that senator buying his card at the airport instead of doing the right thing. Some people may want to argue that Nigeria is Yellow fever free since 1995, true - is our foreign affairs minister aware, so why wasnt it pointed out in our bilateral arrangement with SA so that Nigerians travelling to SA get a waiver? It is time to look at our fundamentals - no b time for bravado |
Nayah:It may be, but why arm them when we could have kept our house in order? |

, must have whispered into the earpiece to Michael Oliver the referee, ''you dare not give it'' Even the Neviller said it was a penalty, well we've come to expect this
Shouldn't be hard. Insightful, but somewhere in there more lay undiscovered - prevent us from conjecturing. Lead us to the complete knowledge of the dynasty. 

. No one is saying the South Africans couldn't have handle things differently but the question is why arm them with a reason to treat your people with disdain? Nigeria is not the only corrupt country in the world but it doesn't affect me if Saddam and co decides to sell off their country but what the Iboris and co do does affect me, kapish? Besides, it doesn't make corruption acceptable because other leaders loot their nations dry. People won't respect you if you don't first, respect yourself.
, I won't put it past that senator buying his card at the airport instead of doing the right thing. Some people may want to argue that Nigeria is Yellow fever free since 1995, true - is our foreign affairs minister aware, so why wasnt it pointed out in our bilateral arrangement with SA so that Nigerians travelling to SA get a waiver? It is time to look at our fundamentals - no b time for bravado