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[quote author=foyeks2001 link=topic=353725.msg4949359#msg4949359 date=1258546721][/quote]Abeg make I follow you laugh in Mongolese wait for who go come laugh in Taiwan _{substanceless musiq of dis era, free myself jo}

Of people, change and customs. Both sides of the divide have their respective merits I must say; while we have the trend common with celebrities and the noveau rich we hardly hear of public declaration by wives who being married from poor homes demand for a side-by-side father's name existence with their husbands,b] It begs the question: Is father's name rentention solely 4 a class, considering we are in the 21st century! Or we have folks from the other divide who do it but for whom public relevance of their right to father name allegiance is but a wish?

Besides with modern trends I fear that some men would for their convenience create similar scenario to fall in line with modernity. [b]who is saying we wouldn't have men who'd rather decide against wearing symbolically their marriage ring as a sign of the times[sub]in their desire to froilick with mamacitas?. [b]My fear is where the middleground will be in the near future. Women marrying and remaining in their father's house apparently is not very distant, who would say marriage as a tradition we have come to know would be what it is today. Something tells me the stake will get higher and people will continually define 'it' as they see convenient. Perhaps very societal, more evolve than we know today. To each his own.

shileowo:
thats y people end up being single 4 looong time. no condition is permanent. while u r looking to tick all the boxes, your own qualities are fading away. for guy, plus all other tns, fine boy and libido is going down, 4 girls,2 obvious, esp the attackers in the front (even wen not used)goes down (gravity).  U decide to lower the prerequisite,then, time is running out. desperate measures kicks in, eg, lesbianism, fonication and all bad habits.  take watever life throws at u and make the best use of it. THE END

Principles and cherished values needn't burn with time,and only the desparate define such as a function of time, more so your purported qualities will also depreciate with time and if one was to accept another becaue of such they might as well dump when that happens! Selcet values, not physical traits. You may never meet your march but your values will endure.

chaircover:
I wasnt being sacarstic

Some women do actually expect their husbands to take over all their siblings and parents family needs.

Some people only get married to get out of poverty & see the husband as the meal ticket.

Surely not even Bill Gates! Neither Warren Buffet.

Na calamity be dat.

@poster

They are already a kind of eagle-eaglets, powerfully advanced beyond the mentality of anyone 17! Should they replace the current Eagles? That is the crux of the matter. For one none can say if they will be as successful as they now are because a lot would have changed. Their opponents for sure, so too their drive. Discipline is what we lack_{the feeling of we don arrive}. Most are in the game to rid themselves of poverty first, and once that is achieve most hardly care. The feeling of I don arrive_{see the present Eagles}if 9ja like make dem qualify.

chaircover:
I suppose this also includes paying his wife’s brothers school fees, making sure that his mother-in-law has a new wrapper to wear to mama Joke’s 60th Birthday party, fixing the leak in his in-laws roof and of course not forgetting to buy MTN phone cards for those young ladies he gives lifts to on his way back from the office.

All in a days work as the oga of the house and the head of the home.

perhaps Oghuvbu should have put internal and external in quote to give some clarity about his/her view. Will be crazy to think otherwise_{especialy for this kain hard times}

Fhemmmy:
This thread is starting to be fun.
Now men are getting to understand how the ladies feels and same for the men.

Fhemmy, both parties have always known how the other felt_{husbands know that their wives need the kitchen support and will reward them for sharing in that responsibilty. Getting over the psychological barrier of the kitchen being a woman's domain really helps} . The problem is doing it on a consistent basis_{periods when one is not happy/stable emotionally can be challenging, a man who's just had a put down from his boss would need good reading by his wife as soon as he steps through the door, the same too, for a woman.} So timing is critical here. If one has a wife that is not football crazy such a fellow needs to plan how his b4-match time hours should be used to ease off household chores so as not to be seen as not pitching in. Marriage in its entirety is for conflict resolution of the individuality that resides within each in the relationship. What one used to do when they were single apparently needs to take second seat and should  only surface when it wouldn't affect their partner_{in this case help tidy the house b4 the match begins. The problem is some married men live an unplanned day-to-day lives, something they used to do in their individual lives and weren't rebuked!}. If we must live happily we must plan as men and share our plan ahead of time with our wives_{something tells me faithfulness has a role in all of these}

lbotus:
The man is the head of the family and the woman is the helper.The man should not make it mandatory for her.it is suppose to be a voluntary kind of contribution.i don't think telling your wife to pay some of the bills is a good idea cos it will make her feel u aren't man enough if u come up with that.

In the business of being married and working to have a happy home there is hardly any room for ''volunteering'' _{from any party to the agreement} as each SHOULD know the strength of the other and accpet that for continued peace and harmony to thrieve it would require them to go the extra mile every now and then. I read a lot of comments in here and apparently some folks are still caught in ''pretimes'', periods in which the definition of being a woman was akin to accept the second role, spare tyre if you will. Times have changed. Boundaries shortened by technology, information more accessible than before and job 'fillability' not limited by sex! If as a woman you desire a particular kind of school for your ward and your husband can't meet the bill, there is noting wrong in talking about your desire_{cos u are a stakeholder in the business of raising your child[ren]}with your hubby and both discussing all financial possibilities that will result therefrom before going for or against it.

The woman who KNOWS her husband knows his financial capabilities as well and need not be told neither asked! Man enough? in a dynamically changing world you want to define ''man enough'' in terms of meeting another's need 100%! All of these stakeholdership or absence of one happen because of unnecessary bravado by some men, men who know they can hardly meet all the demand of their homes but like a proud peacock refuse assistance. It doesn't make anyone more man because they provided all their family need financially_{as they could be failling in other little aspects of emotional disrespect and diluted self-esteem towards their better half}.

Shared responsibility gives the woman a voice as she is a contributor in the venture. Her self-esteem is bettered as nothing is handed her her worth is valued by a reasonable husband! Especially if she's the type that doesn't llet it get to her head.

Sbeauty:
The man should be 100% responsible for the bills. God created Women to be helpers not the head of the family.

I read your reply and many others<amebo and osisi's> and believe you will find_{or have found} the kind of man who fits your advocacy. While it is true that the man is the head of the family and by position must seek to better the welfare of his lot it is not out of place like Chaircover continually has been advocating that the working wife_{supports her husband} give a hand_{even when not required} in the business of partnering her man. I hardly can see a man who when told during courtship, ''you will bear the brunt alone'' will proceed to engage any such woman _{her beauty irrespective}. The dynamics of marriage continue to evovle and now includes the once stay-at-home wife be up and financially supportive of her man.

If women were asked in all honesty if they would rather keep their money and encourage strife or share responsibility and keep the peace in their homes by so doing am sure the latter would prevail with most. Chaircover's view I think like many other's before me have said, is insightful. There's so much within our control in marriage and so much outside our control as well. There are wives and there are good wives. Some only have witnessed their fathers' bear the brunt alone while growing up others see how much stability panned out from shared responsibility and are willling to tow that line. To each his own.

otukpo:
Talk of married man still trying to bachelors, they can hardly be free from that except when the man is probably over 70 yrs. Men love playing around.

, with women who just wouldn't zip up

Orikinla:
Na wa oh!
In fact, many people do not even have the waist to tight their belt and even the thongs will fall off the thin buttocks!

[b] an affirmation that change is the only constant thing as our civilisation continually evolve; has it changed for the better? Depends on who you are asking. Like you said many don't have literally the waist_{thinning from hunger and severe deprivation by a ruderless leadership} to handle the economic changes_{harsh in 9ja} [/b]staring them in the face

TGIF, laugh it off,

Afam:
Thank God you have summoned the courage to ask the question. I have no business with your capability as regards being able to afford anything because as long as you cannot offer to pay hundreds of millions that I roundly rejected based on professional integrity what you think you have as regards money remains minute.

However, I will not be providing you with the answer you desperately need until you learn to ask questions like a normal human being.

Well, am not a rich man by any means_{I no fit reject millions unless I get pass to pdp and hammer lol} , and lol, there has never been need for any summon let alone courage to do so, maybe in your court[ :Dsub]after all you don find me guilty before from previous post[/sub]_{you frankly have delighted me long enough with your presence and it's heartnening to know your type exist in this country,} .

Afam:
Thank God you have summoned the courage to ask the question. I have no business with your capability as regards being able to afford anything because as long as you cannot offer to pay [hundreds of millions that I roundly rejected based on professional integrity /b]what you think you have as regards money remains minute.

However, I will not be providing you with the answer you desperately need until you learn to ask questions like a normal human being.

See posturing I am trying to imagine you with a personality[b]_{''you cannot offer to pay [b][hundreds of millions that I roundly rejected based on professional integrity''} after that statement . Am not interested in your percieved intergrity_{become Afamophobic} , adds nothing to my human content neither value, if you like reject $10 billion_{na ur cup of coffee b dat}. Just keep a handle on things bro, am sure you are worth the millions you reject

Afam:
It seems you have what I call a comprehension limited problem? Who is suggesting a solution to you? Keep deluding yourself unless of course the total value of your items is N10.00 as used in the example. You should be capable of understanding basic issues instead of hiding under the banner of the example does not apply to you because I have made it clear that I am not interesting in providing the answers you are desperate to get.

Thanks for raising other issues now that common sense has prevailed on issues you have been confusing yourself with. However, I won't be responding to them considering the fact that you don't deserve to know the answers.

No, I don't. You are not suggesting cos you have none Only generic theories, common sense knowledge and roadside_{ikoku solution}. So you should know, materials on alternative energy and its applicability are prepondorant, all over the internet and at a snap. Currently have someone installing a safe-mode switch system that can shut out my ''power hungry loads''_{tanx for this term sha} when PHCN goes out while keeping the manageable loads afloat. My discussion with you was to see if you could profer a better option than am currently installing_{apparently not} . Oh by the way my batteries are German_{3, 180Amps}. All this is possible because I can afford it, the many 75%_{chappies/folks below the $1 mark} can't. That is the crux of the matter, the many who need it for their saloons, shops, and petty trading businesses! You can keep your N10.00 analogy now, mr facts.

Afam:
Who is talking of ridding one's self from PHCN? Did I ever make a statement like that? It seems you have finally gone round the bend and you keep manufacturing one lie after another.

The same way someone who buys a bag of pure water will spend less when compared to another that buys the same number of sachets that you have in a bag one at a time.

Don't go far with your manufacturing of lies, stick to the facts stated.

I develop software and bought the same small generator (I pass my neighbor) for N13,500.00 in 2003 and after one year I did an estimate of the cost of running that generator and it came to about N125,000.00 and this is even an office.

In 5 years, I would have spent about N1M because the cost of fuel has changed from what it used to be in 2003 now.

However, I chose to go the alternative energy route and even though I had to start with a regular trailer battery (because I didn't have enough information on the suitability or otherwise in backup systems) the total cost of the inverter and the new battery bank is still less than N200,000.00.

This comes to about N40,000.00 per year and could go to about just N20,000.00 per year if the battery bank remains ok in the coming years.

You cannot eat you cake and have it. Of course, buying a N13,500.00 generator seems cheaper to any inverter let alone the battery but I am a practical person. I am not interested in sentiments as I have respect for facts, hard facts.

You may raise the issue of the banks financing anything with banks as I don't own nor run any.

No offense, my home energy needs are greater than the only-inverter and roadside battery solution you have profered. I can't imagine not being able to recharge my batteries beacuse PHCN is out for some days and I am left handicapped by the non-installation of solar panels nor a gen set to ease up charging. Thank you for all the trouble, I prefer a full-option service that's why I listed my home items so we could be practical instead of theorizing with pure water satchet and helical energy bulbs.

Afam:
As predicted the guilty will always go down the same route - initiate insults and when responded to in kind begin to complain.

This is one claim that no one can dispute about my comments and disagreements with people.

Why would I turn to insults when I have things to say to back up my positions?

Only those that run out of ideas resort to insults when[b] losing out [/b]in any argument.

However, the right to respond to any insult in kind is a fundamental right which I intend to exercise till tomorrow so that idiots like you who think you can insult people just to hide your ignorance would be put where they belong.

The guilty, in your court and by whose judgement?
I hardly have insulted you, at best been sarcastic While alternative energy is good and pays for itself in the long run_{in a country alien to manufacturing and producing save oil} What you are advocating makes relatively little economic sense_blabbing to the many poor in Nigeria who look for the little 300-750 Naira to refuel their ''I pass my neighbour'' and keep a shade of light at night. For any one to totally rid themselves of PHCN and instal required inverter-solar panel-cum battery system will require huge capital outlay. That's why I advocated for banks to come in and make it work by offering monthly EMIs so that chaps can do_{pss, pay small small} without bearing the huge capital brunt.

And you think it's all about winning an arguement? kai!
Pls, Judge Afam, free me abeg

Afam:
I am really sorry for this but one thing I will always do is respond to posts in kind. [The idea of ignoring people who throw insults or try to question other peoples credibility don't seem the best to me /b]as failure to address issues may lead to misunderstandings.

I have [b]never insulted anyone_{i guess calling people ''daft'' who you happen to disagree with is not insulting} [/b]and will not do so but when and if insulted just because I hold a different view by anyone I will always respond in kind and on time too.

[b]Ego: '' your sense of your own value and importance, "psychologically. it is also the part of the mind that is responsible for your sense of who you are, hmmm!

Afam:
It seems I touched on something that hurt you real bad.

You are confused -

You agreed with my take on inverter backup (as being cheaper than running generator) but claimed the initial capital outlay is high and yet you want us to believe that there is no cost effective solution for your items.

You are a hypocrite - You replaced your bulbs with energy saving bulbs (according to you) but claim that talk about energy efficiency program is nonsense.

You have ego problem - You want me to help advice on energy efficient alternatives for your items and inverter backup but pride would not allow you ask as any reasonable person would.

Conclusion - You are simply too daft for me to engage you in any issue based on technology.

And it took you how many post to discover that am all that? Like Ajankekoko said, áttacking another's persona is your favourite pastime, carry on. I hardly have come across anyone without an ego, oh! Except of course mr. facts, AFAM-you. It wil help if you can trace the ''e'' section of your dictionary and try to find the meaning of the word before using it, especially for someone who claims to walk other people out of his.
You are at best intriguing. You spent more than required post to call me all manner of names, yet in all of that time can not put up a your so-called energy solution program for me to analyse if it is worth the trouble of engaging your mind. So sad

Mr, Afam, I have no qualms with you as a person, why should I? Hardly know you Abeg free me

Please no need to misrepresent me,''there is no cost effective solution for your items''. Never said any such thing only your perception, and that Mr. Facts is not reality. Engineering is not about fancy words nor phrases otherwise space shuttles program wouldn't take years to build. I question the viability of the inverter system based on the absent buying power of the most people who'd need it. It is common knowledge that in the long run the installed capacity will break even for any such size system installed, but how many of the poor in Nigeria can afford to set up solar-panelled system requiring a huge capital outlay for a start? To make matters easy so that we have a guide, I posted some of my items in my home so that we have something to work with and sought to know_{plus my ego o!} practically how best an expert like you would go around my problem_{at least na wetin NL dey offer us} , you then gave an example with energy bulbs and made an assertion that 50% of my energy requirments would be saved if_{wonderful practical solution} replaced all my energy hungry loads_{another capital intensive outlay lmao, when i dey try to talk say big money will be required to set up an inverter system convinient for my comfort} . A case of house dey burn pour more fuel! .

Anyway, having listened to your diatribes and jibes_{Ajanlekoko have you covered thorougly when it comes to your knowledge width}. abeg free me

Afam:
The 2 problems you listed I believe were mentioned in the article and unless you are hell bent on twisting issues they are very clear.

I don't need to work with the banks or the payment gateway providers to understand what it takes to build a secure transaction channel because I go beyond what is usually obvious as I am well aware of the guiding principles, standards and protocols guiding e-commerce including credit card payments.

By the way being an "insider" (as claimed by you) should give you better understanding of the working of the ATM and allow you to accept criticisms that are logical which is supposed to enable you provide better services for the customers.

I will ignore the part about listing the e-commerce websites I have setup as I am not allowed to do so based on non disclosure agreements so you won't be getting any names from me.

This is the typical problem with Nigerians, you punch your keyboards without thinking through just because you are in a hurry to criticize.

For all the noise and claims you made you ended up listing 2 out of the problems I listed and you insist that they are the only problems while leaving it the area you may have been involved in - typical Nigerian, blames every other person but himself/herself.

The content below was written by you barely 3 months ago. Why would a well implemented card payment system be in place and even mastercards and visa cards domiciled in Nigeria can't be used outside?

Nigeria is in a sorry state because people like you want to think for others instead of providing factual information and letting the reading public comprehend the facts provided.

You should be bold enough to accept responsibility of what you know and what you don't know. There is an on-going Class suit based on ATM card frauds. Nigerians are losing their money everyday without understanding why. Cards are being cloned and used to access accounts and you tell me there is nothing unsafe about that?

I implore you to understand the technology and see how easy it is to mitigate against the current problems instead of trying to defend the indefensible.

By the way I am not upset. I have come across people who brag like you even when they may never know as much as they claim to know in reality.

AjanleKoko:
@Afam,
I read your post on Technology Times.
Your knowledge of card technology, ATMs, and eCommerce, at best is elementary
Won't delve into the details on Nairaland though.

I did sense it too, very elementary indeed!

ono:
I don't know what happened between yesterday and this morning at my area o. All I know is that we've had power for almost 24 hours in my area, here in Port Harcourt - Rumukwurushi/Rumuodara axis. This is very very unusual. We haven't had that much power for more than 6 months. And the area no be high brow area.


Is anything wrong somewhere? Or should I wait just a little bit more for the system to revert to status quo?

Lmao. Maybe na sake of say after today na fiam! Una no go see am again. I happen to reside in PH too but my area has relatively more stable electricity than yours. Perhaps something being done about the problems that the indigenes hardly know about? Anyway make u njoy am properly and hope things move on from there

Bishopking:
my own take on the issue is that we can convert our problems or challenges to significant advantages.

Now, if we want to solve the problem, who do we call eventually? in all honesty, the technical know-how must come from outside the country! This simply means we will just buy technology or in another word, we will buy machines and equipment as well as the services of the expartrates, Hmmm. What if we, FOR THE FIRST TIME seriosly look how we can develop (or adapt or modify) the necessary technology (or technologies) for a long term effect so that we can float companies that can do same all over Africa and developing countries. Challenges should lead to prosperity. Nigerians, can we think along this line?

Bishop technology transfer is it. The Asians are doing it, we too can!

AjanleKoko:
You guys must have seen the Matrix, I'm sure.
Then you should join me and agree that there is no Power Problem. Just like there is no infrastructure, crime, or poverty problem.
There is only one problem. A political problem that ends up creating power problems, security problems, infrastructure problems, and corruption problems. Solve this problem and all others will go away.
We have coal, gas, hydro, wind, nuclear and solar resources in abundance. Nobody even asked us to do anything like re-invent the wheel.
Just get the guys who have done it before in, pay them, and let them do it, and maybe even run it for us!

Just like the kid told Neo, 'it is not the spoon that bends, but yourself.', I would say, it is not the problem, but what created it in the first place, and why there's a lack of will to solve it, despite the stupendous wealth and resources we possess!

Yes, Ajankelo, but what happens when the makers move on? It is easy to buy Volkswagen Bettle but what happens when Volkswagen moves on from Bettles to Golf? Keep buying? How about learning to make Volkswagen from the makers? I mean we can get them as condition to instruct in our schools to do the bit-by-bit break down on th technicals and adapt ours from there. Won't hurt. So that when they move on, we too can progress without being helpless like we currently are.

Afam:
Maybe you get information from people with your rhetorics but trust me I walk people like you out of my office because you find it difficult to even accept responsibility of what you don't know.

Good enough you are using energy saving bulbs but do not know about energy saving alternatives for the items you listed and I believe you want someone to advice you accordingly yet you term energy efficiency "baldderdash" even when you implemented same based on your limited knowledge.

Is this not unadulterated hypocrisy?

You can be on this all day but I would rather you continued to wallow in clearly avoidable ignorance.
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Mr Afam, I no dey yarn rhetoric. It was quite easy for you to harp on energy bulb like it was something new, and I ask to be educated from a pro like you lisiting my household items as an example in this beautiful concept of energy efficiency of yours and you choose to talk about office and rhetoric when the real issue is how people can meet the huge capital outlay and rid themselves of the ineffective monopoly that is PHCN.
It is no shame to say you don't have a solution to my list other than me replacing my items with more recent items that have been designed to be energy efficient. But to just come here and give an example about energy bulbs as the all-in-all in eneryg effeciency and power alternative gives me an impression I would have missed my way if i made the mistakeof locating your office in Lagos or wherever. You strike a big man pose with your dismissal and it is funny . I mean for someone who serves the public and walks them out because they try to find extensively what knowledge the specialist holds is baffling. See mr name caller, am a coring engineer*not that it is important*, an aspect of drilling that has to do with formation evaluation. We have a system where I work called the Soft-Catch, and if some client comes around and throws a poser beyond the common knowledge of the ability of the device to handle the specified stated capacity, It is an opportunity for me to expound beyond what is known commonly and keep him interested in what I think he doesn't know. Every good salesman does that because (s)he takes advantage to sell off their products when challenged to do so.

I don't recall asking you to calculate the energy saving ratios for the energy bulbs, yet you did to elaborate your point to a perceived novice. Now the bar was raised and I said show a ''limited knowledge'' me how the same rule can be applied to my list to make me more energy efficient, and you disappoint me with your bravado by not walking the talk and harping on how you'd walk me out of your office_{as if na wetin go put food for my table} . Please nobody is an embodiment of knowledge and you shouldn't feel like you are exempt. NL is a buyers-and-sellers online market and if you genuinely have any thing to sell beyond what is common knowledge you will need to go beyond just talking and start walking. Energy efficiency application beyond energy bulb is my interest, especially that which will save me lots of cash without much capital outlay. If you get am offer am, not to dey blow hot air

@ all,

I think it is very vital for our country to start to talk about technology transfer by education first before applying any such innovations. Part of the problem we face as a nation is absence in skilled manpower. It is poignant to state here that the colonial transformers served by Lord Lugard and co are still being run in some states*RIVERS* after 49+ years! The problem with this is the maker has moved on and we didn't copy/transfer the know-how on how this thing was built. The huge price is a premium for an old junk It is so sad . as a simple manufacturing and prodcuing knowledge of such items would have employed people of our nation and beaten the per head production cost down. The Asians are doing it and we must do it. It is also a sure way of keeping the jobs down here. It is not rewarding in the long run to be a user of prdocued goods, it is best to learn and take ownership of produced goods especially when maintenance is such a thing we suffer in 9ja.

Afam:
I would want to assume you are educated enough to learn more on issues you want to learn more about especially as regards the energy efficiency program which by the way is common sense and not buzz word considering the fact that 15 nos 60W incandescent bulbs would take about 900W every hour whereas 15 nos 5W energy saving bulbs would take just 75W every hour. This is a reduction in energy requirement of 12:1 which means you get to pay 12 times more to PHCN if you are using the old bulbs, spent a lot more to get a generator, burn more fuel to get the power out and if considering a backup system you will definitely spent a whole lot more.

It is not my duty to point you to all the available alternatives in the market especially when you see the comments as "baldderdash". Why seek for information on something you consider "baldderdash"?

Pure comedy gold! I listed my household items that serves my comfort and convenience*Vavavoom looks at his list to see if there was any 60W bulb and and you said I should go energy efficient by replacing those items, I was hoping you'd make your at least 50% assertion reduction on the listed items by pointing and showing me how, instead you pick to lecture me on energy bulbs an item that isn't on my list! I would accept if you need to research more instead of this energy bulb bravado you are trying to pass as on. Energy bulbs are easily replaceable and aren't capital intensive Mr. Facts man. It is not my worry as all of the bulbs in my house are energy bulbs. You will get me dancing on the floor if you can get beyond the small fries without my needing huge capital outlay.

Afam:
Consider an energy [b]efficiency program f[/b]irst. You cannot be talking about an alternative energy system without reducing your load requirements. Sometimes, it is much cheaper to replace your energy hungry loads with energy efficient alternatives than to build a backup system that will support the energy hungry loads. You could achieve up to 50% reduction in your current load to begin with.

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We are talking huge capital outlay and you are saying I should first replace my energy hungry loads?<no b money be dat again> I know it sounds good to be techiee savvy, to buzzword about energy efficency program and hungry loads baldderdash but the resulting systems from such switch will still require INITIAL OUTLAY which is prohibitive for the most people in Nigeria. And by the way I didn't see your recommended energy efficeint alternatives to my listed ones. E go good of you fit point me in that direction. Please while you are at it factor in my convenience and comfort in your energy program.

Afam:
My emphasis is on facts. It is easy and looks cheaper to buy a generator for N13,500.00 and then spend about N150,000.00 every year to run it than to get an inverter backup for the same loads (with energy efficiency though) at say N200,000.00 or N300,000.00 that could last for at least 5 years.

So, it is not about sentiments it is about facts. Facts that cannot change.

Do the most conservative estimate of running generator in Nigeria year in year out and I will tell you why a well designed inverter backup system will always be cost effective.

I agree with you but how many can afford the start-up capital, the outlay for starters is restrictive to those who'd like to power their homes with what you are prescribing. If it weren't so most would have switched. I tell you something, if banks are sincere enough and can grant repayable EMIs then your system will work effectively. This is what is in my house:

3000 Watts ring boiler
• Bath Water heater
• 1.4KW Vacuum Cleaner
• 2.4KW Micro wave Oven
• 1.5KW Electric Cooker
• Fridge
• 1.4KW Pressing Iron
• One 1.5hp LG AC
• One 1.0 hp Panasonic AC
• 37” LCD TV
• DVD player
• 3 ceiling fans

An inverter system that wil power these like my 12 KVA Gen requires a capital outlay that I can hardly gather at a time without disturbances in my other financial affairs. Take this down to people at the lower rung then you get similar outlay problems. Perhaps it is easier for you to fork out that much but the alternative forgone is not so easy for every other person and so they resort to quick but temporary fix. If I can find the ready capital, mr. Afam, you wont be the one to educate me on inverter-solar panel and battery systems. A lot is at play, scalability, technical know-how, which folks are acquiring(wind, geothermal systems) are all possible but the greatest obstacle remains the short term cost to acquiring the system.

Afam:
That is why I say that the average Nigerian finds it very difficult to analyze issues and seek ways to free himself/herself from the shackles of these corrupt Nigerians.

After spending just N125,000.00 in a year to run a small generator I bought for only N13,500.00 I knew generator would certainly not be the way forward if I intend to run my business properly otherwise I will be working for the petrol station guys and their owners.

This made me to look for alternatives and I ended up doing a lot of research on alternative energy, six months later I settled for a locally built inverter backup system and for over 5 years now I have not used a generator and the total amount spent on the backup including changing of the battery bank for these years is still about N200,000.00 which translates to about N40,000.00 per year and it seems I will still see another 3 or 4 years from my inverter backup system before the battery bank begins to get tired.

And, I cannot work without electricity considering the fact that I am a software developer so this guarantees steady power supply even when I would have spent over N1M running generator in my office.

If Nigerians seek for alternatives the cartel will not force anyone to buy generator, fuel or diesel.

While I agree that the best way forward is for PHCN to generate power instead of turning typical Nigerians into alternative energy people the most cost effective solution for now remains a well designed inverter backup system.

yes, cost effective in the long run but how many Nigerians currently in the dark can afford the start-up capital for an inveter that can power their homes? An alternative that can cost as much as the I pass my neighbour and with equivalent service charge is am afraid non-existent. You rightly pointed out we could bouycot the cartel's product by looking and using available alternatives but comparatively how competitive are those alternatives? Keep in mind the aim is power for the non-affluent.

Fhemmmy:
i just wonder what is taking Nigeria so long to have this done, we wont be the one to invent the wheel, we will just be doing what other countries has done and done successfully, so i am just kinda lost, cos i ave no idea what is making it so difficult for \nigeria to have constant electricity, how can a govt of a nation with 150M people be parading themselves as the leader of a nation in total darkness, if shame no catch them, shame catch us the citizen.

Nigeria has the technical know how, we have the money, we have the resources, so someone please tell me what is stopping us, apart from some selfish fools and yet we call them biz tycoons

No, we wont invent no wheel, just like someone said earlier, the system is in comatose because people from within the cartel are benefitting and making handsome returns on the sale of diesel*Otedola Femi, sole importer and distributor of the product in 9ja* and heavy-duty generators* enter the Lenbanes(Saleh, Jubaili, Mikano et al) with OBJ & co as major importers* I wouldn't be shocked if the afforementioned are joint owners of the listed firms.

It's common knowledge that each consumer of electricity via diesel spends on the average more than 5 times monthly what (s)he would have spent if power was generated and supplied by PHCN. Try working with that figure and cost what it translates to for even 50,000 regular users. Every heavy industry on Trans Amadi industrial layout runs one of Saleh, Mikano or Jubaili on a daily basis! You begin to get why this won't go away. The cartel in power know that privatisation is the way out but won't willingly do it like the case of telecomms. Why we could do without making calls* that's why it was easy to privatise* the revenue that will be lost from the cartel's coffers is mind boggling! 1 in every 3 homes( ~50 Milliõn )have a gen set running on an average of at least 3 days weekly, multiply say 10 litres/3days(minimum) @ 75Naira/Litre. So 750 x 50 million! This wan na for fuel o! Imagine the ones for diesel! Just do that one for let's say 50,000 companies at 2 drums per week @ 26K/drum! The turnover is just staggering. Naim make Otedola and Dangote fall out because of AP. Dangote feeds us rice, sugar and cement. Otedola feeds us pms and diesel. Both utmost monopolist in their various entreprises.

No laws to stop them, even if available are set uo by their cronies in government- the cartel who they are answerable to. We are in a quandary, a cyclical mess of scratch-my-back I scratch-your-own. Until we, the suffering stand up and fashion a way to stop these people they wont yield. How we go do am has been the case of many studies on NL