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doncartel:
This story made me not to fear death again:

An ancient king heard about a secret pool which gives eternal life if someone drinks from it. He found the pool and went there.

But before he could drink, he saw an extremely old being or man lying near the pool. Long story short, the old being had drank the water thousands of years ago and was now tired of life.

That was how the king decided not to drink. He started seeing death as a privilege. So, long life and prosperity with painless death around 100 years old should be the ideal situation.

This story does not help you fear death rather to fear living for too long because you are trying to avoid death

But for you to wish to live to a 100 years is fear of death for if you had no fear of death, you would not mind dying at anytime even this very moment.

SporaD8:
Ever watch a baby play with fire before?
The Baby knows no fear or limitations.
Overtime, the baby adjust and learn base on what it is taught!
Ancient soldiers and suicide jihadist have learned and relearn not to fear death.
Death is a Transition; never a finality.

Na baby be your example? you funny.

You have obviously never had a baby before, if not you would have known that babies when they come in contact with death like every other human, fear death and react like every other human.

Have you seen their reaction when you throw them too high up? They open their eyes in full fright. No one taught them that, yet they have it.

And even the fire after they have touched it and seen it can kill them, will never go near it again.

Then for your jihadists, it is clear that for them to learn and relearn not to fear death is proof that they fear death, they are only using brainwashing and delusion like you are doing

dollypi:
You assume the bible is the final authority.

Your entire arguement rests upon this assumption.
If your assumption is false, it all collapses.

Your use of the word "if" tells us you are still in conjectures and assumptions.

When you have facts then come and talk.

DissTroy:
LOL. If you've read Christian theology and Biblical history beyond what your Papa-in-Lord told you on the pulpit and the 66-book abridged version of the Scriptures that is the modern Bible, you'll question many things too and find plot holes.

Nothing is a given. Just ensure you spiritually commune with the Being you believe in, even if it's for the placebo effect.

Plot holes you say, yet you presented none.

Placebo effect you say, if you fear nothing you would have no need for a placebo, proving in essence that you are in fear hence the need for consolation (placebo)

fyneboi79:
Stop believing In Jesus, God or the Bible and you will realize there's nothing to fear about the passage every living creature must one day take..Religion only makes it look scary forgetting that birth brings about life and death must take back into nothingness for balance to exist.

Them force you to believe? No be by force!

You are very free to do as you please exactly as you are already doing and yet it has not helped you. For I can smell your very very great fear from here. proof that your own delusions have not stopped that great great fear.

Chienex24:
Abeg no mind antichristians and atheists. They are only doing their jobs, while we do ours in Christ Jesus

Yes oo but if you do not speak up to correct them which is also our job, some people would be deceived thinking they are correct.

For the sake of those souls, you must.

itu404:
Isaiah 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

What do you understand by this word “ righteousness”,? It means a right standing with God, without sin or blemish,spotless in all ramifications.Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people. There is a lifting and exaltation to any people who attains righteouness. There is a lifting and exaltation to any people who attains this standard.

Alas! no man has been able to attain to God standard of righteousness, hence the lamentation in the book of Isaiah is undertandable. See Isaiah64:6, but we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousness’s are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.Difference between righteousness and holiness. We are encourage to be holy in the book of1 Peter 1:16, Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy. Any object or thing set apart for the use of God can also be holy like exodus3:5 And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place where on thou standest is holy ground. This is important

Man, thing or object can be holy because anything set apart for the use of God is declared holy.1 Peter 1:15, But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;

Man can attain holiness but not righteousnesRighteousness is without sin and standing blameless before the most high God. This is not obtainable so what happens?

Matthew 22:8-13 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy. Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests. And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Righteousness is a gift Romans 5:17 For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) If it takes one man for death to pass unto all men it is only fair that it will also take one man for life to pass unto all men; the choice lies with us. The first Adam introduced death into man and the last Adam introduced life eternal into man.1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. There is no place in the bible that echoes this choice that is before usl like the book of Deuteronomy 30:19, I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

Romans 13:14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof. The parable of the wedding feast shows a place of eternal glory, but you need a “pass”, and that “pass”, is a wedding garment, and that wedding garment is the lord Jesus, a spiritual garment that clothes us and all God sees thereafter, is his son. Therefore, the bible encourages us in the book of Romans13:14, to put on Jesus christ. No man who comes to God through Jesus has something [humilty] to boast about, for all boastings is in christ jesus and all victories is in him. For in him we move and have our very existence. it behoolves the believer to know this as we await his coming.

MARANATHA!

All quotation, from [KJV,]

You are talking rubbish!

Did God not call Noah, Job and Daniel Righteous?

It thus means man and even men have attained Righteousness by God's Standard as God Himself declared.

So the Isaiah you are referring to is about man's standard of righteousness which of course is complete and utter rubbish in the eyes of God.

AntiChristian:
The Christian theory from Paul has always been to relegate righteousness/works and elevate grace in Jesus!

Job was righteous/godly and yet this didn't stop his children from dying and properties destroyed!

Just to answer you because I know say you be devu pikin.

That is not true!

Paul did no such thing. He only clearly understood that no amount of righteousness or works can save man, without man acknowledging his Saviour and living in the Love and help (grace) of his Saviour that is if he accepts that Jesus is his Saviour.

Anything else is a nullity.


And for Job, you could not say his godliness did not save him, for it did.

And for children and properties, not a problem for they were replaced with even bigger and better, so no problems there.

Dtruthspeaker:
😁😁😁😁 you don off me with laugh abeg make I go sleep. 😂😂😂

Dtruthspeaker:
You have now shifted Post from burning to metaphors and allegory whereas Revelations is talking about events yet to come?

That one? you never see anything. E be like say dem swear for am with Allegory. Just wait e never start yet ooo, e still dey warm up.

Dtruthspeaker:
Hmm people dey oo. And in their minds they say they are straight forward. 😁😁😁

Straight sef go see dem do tufiakwa, I can never be associated with this one.

Pupanchie:
I think this is true but l want to hear more from you viewers and your concern, I've some points l did like to share when I've viewed all comments

This assumes that you have interviewed all the wicked people on earth and then came to that finding.

But if you have not, then this is purely lies meant to bash religious people and consequently this post is not worth even using to wipe anyone's bottom with.

Dtruthspeaker:
If you did not understand my meaning of destroyed, you would have said so. But you responded and I did not complain. So that episode is past

But what stands now is that you said "So the people in the lake of fire too would be destroyed"

And I asked you to define what destroyed means to you, but you have been running up and down, even going backwards trying to raise non issues, all because you don't want to tell us your meaning of the word "destroyed".

As I said, all these your dodgings has told us everything.

That is what he does. I don leave am for his going backwards and running up and down.

Make em turn to Bob Marley wailers.

What a character!

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣na wa oo....no evidence

still dey complain? you go tire as I don waka leave you for your wailings .

GodPunishOsu:
E hard me cos I'm powerless,is your God also powerless?

Comon, you gat the power to simply take some swipes from that popular drink na. Nothing hard for inside.

Truthseeker10:
Lol.....you mean you told me about hell and death getting tormented or not in the lake of fire from your opinion and not the bible and I was satisfied with the answer?

Why is showing me where you answered about people getting tormented or not in lake of fire difficult for you na?

You go complain tire

Truthseeker10:
Kindly show me where you gave an answer about people getting tormented or not.

Show me where you got the answer from the Bible whether hell fire and death would be tormented or not.

you are funny. If you were not satisfied with my answer on death and hell you would have said so but instead you moved to people and then asked me to answer you which I graciously did.

But because my answers are not what you are looking for, you are complaining

You go complain tire

Truthseeker10:
So hell fire and death will also be tormented?

Below is your statement in bold.

If you throw your things which have annoyed and tormented you endlessly into the fire, do you do it to torment them?

So are you saying that hell fire and death and people tormented God endlessly and that is why He threw them into the lake of fire?

you very well got the answer to death and hell then you moved to people which I have just answered. So going back to death and hell is proof that you have nothing more to say

Truthseeker10:
Oh so people would not be tormented in the lake of fire?

Funny how you respond so your things that annoyed and tormented you are not deserving of torment eh? You funny

thinkmoney:
I don try for you
So I leave you

Truthseeker10:
oga answer this one na....if death and hell fire will not be tormented in the lake of fire, what about the people who are in the same place with them?

You already know the answer to that.

If you throw your things which have annoyed and tormented you endlessly into the fire, do you do it to torment them?

Truthseeker10:
So God will not torment hell fire and death in the lake of fire but will torment people in the same lake of fire?

I have answered you so this is you going out of the field.

DeepSight:
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Do those things have feelings and are they conscious beings? If yes to either, I would find a more humane way to end them.

You realize you are asking me a stupid question.

Because for me to answer your question, that would entail me knowing those things, meaning I have met them, to be able to describe them and to then speak of their attributes.

But as humans it is as we say in law out of my jurisdiction so of course it is unreasonable and stupid to ask me that.

Truthseeker10:
So if God is not tormenting them, what is he doing to them?

Exactly what you are doing to those things you do no longer need

Truthseeker10:
So of what use is throwing death and hell fire into the lake of fire? Is it to torment them?

So when you throw your things you no longer need into the fire, do you do it to torment them?

Truthseeker10:
Kindly tell us why death and hell are also heading for the lake of fire. What sin did they commit?

So the owner of the fire can not throw his creations into fire again, eh? So they have to be sinners to be thrown in there, right?

So when you threw things you no longer need into the fire, it is because those things were sinners, right?

Na wa ooo!

thinkmoney:
You don use another big English “mischievous”.
People that want to be foolish will be foolish regardless of how much you try to show them logic. And conviction and beliefs that have been imbibed overtime is hard to let go. It’s like an abusive relationship, sometimes you die inside.

You said I invented the allegorical and I have showed you were the first verse of that revelation, the introductory verse said explicitly the things are shown in signs or symbols. Isn’t symbols another term for allegory and mentaphor? Instead of you to behave in a smart way and say things like “oh, that’s why even death was said to be thrown into the lake of fire. I get now , sorrry”, you are there cracking jokes wey no funny.

I have shown you one Bible verse to support my argument you in the other hand are just playing around and sticking with the tradition of men you have grown with. SMH

Funny dude, na you use mischievous, I threw it back at you and you are complaining

Now you lie and say I said you invented Allegory when I never said invented as my posts will prove.

Is that how desperate you are?

Well, this thread shows it is you who has been throwing Allegory up and down like you just stumbled upon a new word to use to protect your delusions.

So because Allegory means symbols so we should throw away the fact that symbols point to and indicate something, a fact you have not been able to counter

You have shown nothing to support you but rather it is against you and so clearly you are in denial of the truth that you are heading to Lake of Fire and nothing you say will stop it.

So over to you to find words that I have used here to fight with, since your argument is empty and contains nothing.

Then when you finish fighting my words, you can go on to repeat your delusions

Williendiana:
I guess he likes the scent of burnt suya so much that he cannot survive without it.

And yet He survived all this while without roasting you lots.

You guys deserve the hottest hottest of them all and that you shall get.

GodPunishOsu:
You said your vseless God on me,i said i didn't ask him to on me in the first place and he should off me,if he's capable of doing that.how is that too hard for him to do?

If e hard am, e hard you? Do it jo, stop talking and spare us of this mess called you

thinkmoney:
I tell you to be humble. The Bible itself said that. These things I am telling you isn’t my own invention. I will show you ;
Revelation 1:1 in three different translations
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
The Revelation of Yeshua The Messiah, which God gave to him, to show his Servants what had been given to soon occur, and he SYMBOLIZED it when he sent by his Angel to his Servant Yohannan.

Literal Translations
Literal Standard Version
A revelation of Jesus Christ that God gave to Him to show to His servants what things must quickly come to pass; and He SIGNIFIED [it], having sent through His messenger to His servant John.

A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent his angel and presented it in SIGNS through him to his slave John.


I will tell you one thing out of love. Several populor Bible translations in English that we have now are either poorly done, or translation from another translation like is the case with KJV, or done with mischief to conform with some theology and narrative. You really have to study widely, compare translations and study bibles that offer literal translations to really understand the mind of God. Salvation is real work. Devil is trying to muddle up the Bible.

You will notice sadly that many modern Bible remove that part that says “sign/signify/symbols”. I hope to hear from you again. You have already said”delusional” and “you wish”, I want to hear another big grammar

So because of the use of symbolize and signify/signs which is used to indicate and point to something now means Allegory to you when it does not suit you right?

You are the mischievous one here and no matter how many times you ask me to humble, meaning make I no talk again I will tell you the truth you don't want to hear which is what do they all indicate/point to (signs) is that people including you are going to be permanent residents of the Lake of Fire.

So you can allegorize all you want, it would not change a thing!

thinkmoney:
Be humble guy.
Revelation is allegorical. Many events and things there are symbols like you have in Daniel and Ezekiel’s visions. That’s why you have Jesus represented by a Lamb and you have some four elders having animals features

The incident where people were throne in the lake of fire symbolizes total destruction. To prove this further, note that Death also was thrown in this same lake of fire. Now can death be held? It’s metaphor to denote total destruction, to tell you that at a point in the future Death and sinners will cease to exist

You wish!

Now that Revelations which is contained in the same Bible you earlier relied on, does not suit you, now its Allegory.

There is no Allegory or giringory there no matter how much you wish.

The Creator has told you plainly that his creations of which death is one of them would be cast in the lake of fire, shikena.

The fact you can not hold death, does not mean the Creator of death can not hold it.

So it is not for you to allegorize something when you don't like it.

You will be cast into the lake whether you wish it away or not.