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QuantumComputer:
So where did Jesus say masturbation is a sin? Where you with Jesus 24 hours a day to know all about him.

Na your own don be!

See it now you have moved to whether mastubation is a sin thereby shifting the post from your false accusation against Jesus which is the issue between us, proof that you have nothing but eve I'll in your heart.

And then you are attempting to reverse the burden of proof by asking if I was with him all day when it was you who made that wicked allegation against Jesus demanding you are the one to prove your wike. D accusation!

So that question is on you!

But we already know the answer to that question further proving your accusation is both false and eve I'll.

My own be I am thankful to be but yours.....

QuantumComputer:
Mark 10:18
“Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone.

19 You know the commandments: ‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, you shall not defraud, honor your father and mother.’

Is you they will off battery on.

Now you quote the same Jesus whom you accused falsely without fear!

I will gladly accept the offing of battery but you, you own don be!

QuantumComputer:
You think Jesus did not masturbate?

You are a truly eve I'll theen! Person dey talk em own, you just had to attack Jesus eh? Wetin concern Jesus with your mastubation?

So because you dey mastubate for public come mean say Jesus do am? Abi dem force you to surrender your life to am? Nobody force you but because better guilty conscience dey worry you that is why e pepper to the point of making false accusation because if dem ask you for evidence now, you go begin dey talk nonsense.

Some people eh, them suppose off battery on top them

Roycemadeit:
Dtruthspeaker and Vdestro, I think we're confusing commentary with a question that demands an answer.

Dtruthspeaker, I understand your mannequin analogy. You're saying that just as a mannequin cannot determine that its creator must be made of plastic, humans cannot assume that God shares human physical characteristics. Vdestro, your examples of Faraday, Hippocrates and women being called fathers demonstrate that the term can be metaphorical. I'm not unaware of these interpretations.

But my commentary was about the combined language and imagery used in Christian theology: God as Father, Jesus as Son, God consistently referred to as He, the Ancient of Days portrayed with white beards in Daniel 7, and humanity supposedly created in God's image. I also highlighted the peculiar arrangement of a divine Father and Son, but no divine mother.

You are free to interpret these descriptions as metaphors, accommodations to human understanding or representations of a God beyond biological sex. My observation concerns the language and imagery themselves, and the distinction between what is presented literally and what is subsequently explained symbolically.

When you say you've answered me, remember that I was making commentary. You chose to engage with it, and I am commenting on your responses in turn. Explaining your interpretation doesn't automatically make my original observation disappear.

You may disagree with my commentary, but please don't confuse offering an interpretation with establishing that the issue I highlighted no longer exists.

Yet again, repeating yourself over and over and over. Abegi, I am done.

FayaBall:
Truly the word "Feudal lord" acknowledges that the person in charge is a bandit agbero who has been given rule and power by his more powerful king of bandits.

The feudal lord is always a violent person and a person who is ready to do violence because he always has arms and has armed men who work for him ready to carry out his violent will exactly like the agbero system where Tinubu is the king and mc oluomo and co are the feudal lords in Lagos

Yeah, the word feud tells you who they are. Hmmm.

Dtruthspeaker:
Who cares? Did we not come and meet this animals with names already?

Abeg, find something profitable to use my brain for.🤣🤣🤣🤣



Again, who cares?
When a person is evicted and ejected does he care whether the rats and wall geckos are also evicted? No.

Another waste of brain use.🤣🤣🤣



Again who cares?
Do animals not migrate abi dem need passport and visa?

Another waste.🤣🤣🤣



Yet again who cares?
As long as mosquito still dey bite us and if we go outside we go get better goat chop and fresh water leaf to take follow the goat, e no concern anybody. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Did na anoda cowu thread 🤣🤣🤣🤣

As in eh, that guy na better math person. E neva see anything e go soon join in brothers for where dem dey usually go.

FayaBall:
O God, how long shall the adversary reproach?

Remember this, that the enemy hath reproached, O LORD, and that the foolish people have blasphemed thy name.

Pour out thine indignation upon them, and let thy wrathful anger take hold of them.

For, lo, thine enemies, O LORD, for, lo, thine enemies shall perish; all the workers of iniquity shall be scattered."

Consume them in wrath, consume them, that they may not be: and let them know that thou art God, The Lord.

Aamen and Aamen, brother!

Dtruthspeaker:
You are just repeating yourself and committing the fallacy of argument in a circle.

I have answered you that because you are made of plastic and rubber like a mannequin you fallaciously think your Creator must be made of plastic and rubber..

This is the fallacy of non sequitur (or a faulty generalization /hasty generalization),

As an obiter, On women with beards, this thread already answers you.
https://www.nairaland.com/6227264/ladies-beards-harsh-wicked#95642096

All in all, this just proves how Fallty and flawfull your reasoning and argument is, hence why you are repeating yourself. You don't have any reasonable or valid argument to make 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

That is his way, always repeating when he loses. What a "L"!

Roycemadeit:
Vdestro, Dtruthspeaker, una dey complicate a simple matter. 😂 How do you have a Father and a Son but no mother? Now you're telling me God is not gendered, yet the Bible consistently refers to him as He, calls him Father, and even describes him with white hair and a beard in Daniel 7:9. Does a woman grow a beard like that?

Genesis 1:27 says God created man in his image. If we're taking that literally, does God have a penis too? 😂 Or is it only the parts that suit the argument that resemble God?

And remember Genesis 2. God created Adam first, then decided it wasn't good for him to be alone, so he made a woman from his rib. The woman comes later as a solution to Adam's loneliness, remember God is the ancient of days, and must have experienced extreme loneliness.

Help yourself understand this family arrangement. God is Father, Jesus is Son, Mary is the human mother, but there is no divine mother. God should have got Joseph pregnant, that would be more divine... God is supposedly beyond gender, yet the language and imagery used to describe him are overwhelmingly male.

If all these are metaphors, then say they're metaphors. But you can't insist that the language is literal when it supports your theology and suddenly symbolic when somebody starts asking questions. Una theology get exemption for everything. 🤣

I have answered you already and you obviously have no answer to all that I have said so you have completely avoided my post and gone on to repeat what I have answered already which you have no answer for. What a shame!

HappyPagan:
He died for your grammar.

See it, nothing to say. Abegi!

And yet some be8s^ts would come and say God has done nothing for them.

HappyPagan:
Still not back. Still the greatest lie ever told.

How that one take concern you na? His coming and when He comes is no business of yours.

We who want Him to come and whom His coming concerns are not bothered. So how can you be bothered more than us. Case of crying even when the bereaved is not even crying

Guy, no bother yourself after all His coming will not prevent that your p8in from coming or wishing you put off your battery because of it.

We even know His coming is not the worstest thing that can happen because live-ing already is for those who fear His coming. For the worstest thing for a convict awaiting execution is the waiting itself.

Roycemadeit:
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You just compared a mannequin made from plastic to a God described as Father with a Son. 😂

The question is whether calling God “Father” and Jesus “Son” carries gendered meaning. You can't turn around and say God is beyond gender whenever the implications become uncomfortable, while insisting on calling him Father and referring to his child as Son.

I'm not saying God must have human biology. I'm saying the language used to describe him is gendered. Those are two different things. Your mannequin analogy hasn't addressed that distinction. Na you dey confuse the matter, then insult person when your analogy no fit answer the point.

Even Google has answered you saying

"No, "father" is not a gender; it is a familial title and parental role"

For even women have referred to themselves as the father of their children as Tonto dikeh first did with her son.

Whether male, female or even thing, father is usually used to refer to the one from whom a thing or person issues or issued or one who played a parental role .

Now I know you know this but because you are the author of corn fusion you come trying to murk things up.

For is Michael Faraday not referred to as the Father of Electricity? Meaning Electricity is the son? Does anyone go asking where is the wife na? Since there is father and there is son, there must be wife na?

Or Hippocrates the father of medicine, so where is the wife na? Since according to you where there is a father and a son, there must be a wife?

Or the Egyptian female Pharaoh Hatshepsut who referred to herself as King and as a Father to her people so where is the wife na? Since she is father and the people her children, so there must be wife?

Or the tree that produces children which we call fruits, why are you not looking for its wife?

Or that question in our exam papers that has children and grandchildren so we should also look for the wife that birthed them na?

See how ridiculous this is? That's how you look.

For all of these things show instances where there are father and son yet no wife and no body is making an issue out of them.

But when it comes to God, you all throw your sense away and start reasoning in a very ridiculous manner.

Dtruthspeaker:
Imagine wetin person dey plan! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Imagine oooooooo!

Dtruthspeaker:
Wait ooo.

Wait oo na im plan be dis?

Dat na why hin dey do this campaign?

Ewooo! This explains it.

Na im ooo. You don see am ba?

RealSleek:
Who did Judas murdered? Himself?

Ha, so from repeating yourself to now not making any sense. na wa ooo! What a mess! Abeg pity yourself and stop disgracing yourself.

Roycemadeit:
WHAT IF GOD AND THE DEVIL ARE THE SAME BEING?


Christians believe that God and the Devil are enemies. God represents good, while the Devil represents evil. The Devil may try to frustrate God's plans, but God is more powerful and will eventually defeat him.

However, when I read the Bible, I see something different.

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But if course how shall you see any different being who you are

Roycemadeit:
1. THE DEVIL IN GOD'S PRESENCE

In Job 1:6-12, Satan appears before God, and they have a conversation. Satan questions Job's faithfulness, and God permits him to test Job.

This is the same Devil Christians claim was cast out of heaven for rebelling against God. Yet, in the story of Job, he enters through the pearly gates, appears before God and discusses a man's fate with him over brunch.

The supposed enemy of God, the father of sin, has access to God's presence, and God permits him to inflict suffering on an innocent man.

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See person eye, I no talk am?

The Bible said the sons of God came before God and Satan came too, you turned it to brunch, see am?

Then everyone knows the story. God being pleased with Job praised and boasted about Job. Satan said he would defeat Job if God withdrew His protection. God knowing his man Job said he should go ahead and we saw Job defeat Satan proving God right.

So it is clear that God did no wrong but rather Satan is the eve I'll-l one.

Then of course, even this your example shows who you are, as it is even a good example showing us how God and Satan are clearly different people and not the same as you said.

Roycemadeit:
2. WHEN GOD DOES IT, IT IS A TEST. WHEN THE DEVIL DOES IT, IT IS TEMPTATION.

The Spirit led Jesus Christ into the wilderness to be tempted by the Devil (Matthew 4:1). We also see in Genesis 22:1 that God tested Abraham.

Notice the distinction: when God does it, it is called a test; when the Devil does it, it is called temptation.

Isaiah 45:7 says that God creates light and darkness, peace and calamity. Amos 3:6 also presents disaster as something that does not occur independently of the LORD.

The distinction is quite convenient. When God brings suffering, it is part of his plan. When the Devil does something similar, it is evidence of his wickedness.

The Bible itself attributes actions associated with evil and destruction to God, while also presenting Satan as an agent of similar actions.

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The difference between God and Satan is always very clear.

For we can see God's own is certainly a test meant in good faith of which He tests only after he knows you ought to pass and it's not different from what teachers do and no one calls that eve I'll-l but see Satan when he comes it always at your weak and weakest point.

See how Jesus was very weak after fasting 40 days and nights that is when Satan comes hence why his own is eve I'll-l and will always be bent on making you fall exactly your intent.

So you see even this your example is against you because it doesn't show they are the same but rather very different people.

Roycemadeit:
3. THE DEVIL'S REBELLION AND THE IRONY OF HELL

Revelation 12:4 describes the dragon sweeping away a third of the stars of heaven, while verses 7-9 describe the war in heaven and the dragon's expulsion.

The traditional Christian interpretation presents this as Satan's rebellion against God.

This means the Devil was powerful enough to lead a multitude of heavenly beings into rebellion, yet Christians imagine him spending eternity punishing human beings for their own rebellion against God.

The irony is difficult to miss. The Devil himself is condemned for rebellion, but the popular Christian imagination turns him into the chief tormentor of other rebels. I think Satan is reasonable enough to organise a fiesta with his fellow rebels instead of judging them for the same rebellion of his.

Revelation 20:10, however, describes the Devil being thrown into the lake of fire. He is a victim of punishment there, not its ruler.

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Now you have gone to wishing reasonability upon someone who attacks an innocent person who just finished fasting and who attacked Job simply because he loved and obeyed God.

Funny. What a wishful thinking and hope since you know him and you shall be there together.

This is even outside the fact that this is off topic.

Roycemadeit:
4. GOD AND THE DEVIL AS TWO FACES OF THE SAME POWER


In 2 Samuel 24:1, God incites David to conduct a census. But in 1 Chronicles 21:1, Satan is the one who incites David to do the same thing.

The same event. Two different interchangeable agents.

The relationship between God and the Devil is not as straightforward as Christians make it appear.

The biblical stories of Job and David's census reinforce this problem. God and Satan are presented as distinct agents, yet their actions and responsibilities sometimes overlap.

I see the possibility that God and the Devil are two faces of the same power: one representing the good attributed to the deity, the other carrying the blame for its darker side.

I am not claiming that the Bible explicitly says they are one being. I am drawing a conclusion from the way the biblical narrative distributes responsibility for good, evil, suffering, and destruction.

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Of course who does not understand that God does not do eve I'll-l. It is Satan who does!

So the Chronicles is simply showing that the actual doer of the eve I'll-l is Satan and not God.

So once again showing you the clear difference between them

So once again you nothing for you.

Roycemadeit:
5. THE DEVIL COULD BE FEMALE

Christians speak of God the Father and God the Son, but no divine wife is recognised in Christian theology.

The Devil is also commonly imagined as male, even though the biblical texts do not establish that Satan is God's wife or explicitly identify Satan as female, it hints art. How beautiful she was made - _{Ever seen a woman preparing to attend a function?}.

My speculation is that the rebellious figure in this cosmic story could just as easily be imagined as female. A female figure refusing to submit to a supreme authority would not only challenge the authority of a powerful male God but also make him seem less untouchable. Perhaps Satan was made male to give God a worthy opponent, rather than a female challenger whose rebellion might expose the absurdity of a supreme male authority being threatened by a woman.

It makes little sense to have God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, but no God the Mother. It should be God the Father, God the Mother, and God the Son.

What I find amusing is that the creator of an all-male heaven understood that Adam needed a female companion, yet somehow managed to have a Son without a woman in heaven. Perhaps that explains all the heavenly anger. 😂 Maybe Jesus spent those three days in the grave negotiating with his mother, begging her to return home with him to heaven, but as a feminist she was still too angry to come back. 😂

See am who cares whether Satan is male or female we all know who it is that is a very very very eve I'll-l. Shikena!

Then you have started your usual assumptions and conjectures as is your thing and wishful thinking meaning you have nothing to say.

So clearly God and Satan are not and can never be the same!

Roycemadeit:
I don't think Judas Iscariot was acting entirely on his own volition. I think he was used to fulfil what God had already planned. Consider these examples:

God hardened Pharaoh's heart, even when the narrative says Pharaoh wanted to let Israel go: Exodus 9:34–35; 10:1, 20, 27; 14:4, 8.

God hardened the hearts of the Canaanite kings so they would fight Israel: Joshua 11:19–20.

In the census story, God was angry with Israel and incited David to conduct the census: David was very apologetic for his actionsz unbeknownst to him that it was God who provoked him: 2 Samuel 24:10

God sent a lying spirit into the mouths of Ahab's prophets to lead him to his destruction: 1 Kings 22:19–23; 2 Chronicles 18:18–22.

If God can harden people's hearts, influence their decisions, or send a lying spirit to deceive someone, how do we determine that Judas was acting freely or fulfilling a divine purpose?

If his betrayal was necessary to fulfil God's plan for Jesus' death, could Judas simply have refused to participate and prevented that plan from happening?

A prediction is not a command, but if an all-knowing God deliberately arranges the circumstances to ensure that a predicted event happens, the question of responsibility becomes much more complicated.

The Bible itself gives different accounts of Judas's death: Matthew 27:3–10; Acts 1:16–20. There is also the Gospel of Judas, an ancient text that presents a radically different interpretation of Judas's role, although it is not part of the biblical canon.

The usual claim that Judas was simply evil, while Peter was forgiven because he repented, overlooks the deeper question: if God orchestrated the events, was Judas really free to choose otherwise?

This eve I'll spirit is here again!

To the issue, Judas clearly had a choice to betray or not to. For nowhere was it said it must be Judas.

And nowhere was it reported that God hardened Judas' heart or sent a lying spirit or any other thing as God did in those cases which He clearly reported.

So, clearly it would have been done one way or the other by people like you but surely it should not come from His own house.

Now further proof of this is that Jesus even warned him not to, meaning he had a choice not to but Judas exercised his choice to betray Jesus.

So you speak as the eve spirit in you shall speak.

Dtruthspeaker:
Jesus Who had already closed the door saying "woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born."?

This is where you guys are just holding on to your wish that God can forgive everything, even when common sense already tells you that it is not True and that it can't be True.

Some things cannot be forgiven eg person carry mind say hin won murder God! So, if dem give you opportunity you go do am?

That is the problem with being on the side of wrong. You go dey always find something to hang on to whether reasonable or unreasonable because the truth is very very fearful.

Dtruthspeaker:
This is the key.

The Plan is some child of Belial is going to fall for this trap, but who is it?

That is where Judas chose to put his name.

Correct and inspite of being warned.

ebubeson:
It was prophesied that someone will betray Jesus. Judas finally betrayed Jesus Christ, but he never repented. Peter denied Jesus Christ, but came back to Christ and was accepted. Jesus Christ would have forgiven Judas if He repented.

No matter the sin you have committed against Jesus Christ, even if it is a betrayal, tell Jesus Christ to have mercy on you and forgive all your sins. He will forgive all your sins.

What sin have you committed? Adultery, masturbation, fornication, bestiality, murder, abortion, gay, hookup, lying, paternity fraud, lesbianism, yahoo yahoo, rituals, vodoo, juju, witchcraft, hatred, envy, malice, worldly dressing, forging certificate, bribery, gossip, rape etc. Tell Jesus to forgive you all your sins and repent never to go back again.

Matthew 27:3 says you are wrong. For Judas repented yet it was a nullity.

So you preach a false and utterly wrong thing.

Dtruthspeaker:
Google
Emotional blackmail is a form of manipulation where someone uses fear, obligation, and guilt to control your decisions and force you to comply with their demands or desire.

And knowing that people do not want/ do not like to say that their mother is evil/do not want to see that their mother is evil, mostly out of reverence for God and the Natural law of respect your parents, yet, just like satan told Eve to break something she should not break, here you are manipulating me into breaking the barrier of respecting my parents and elders.

So, you see even now you have proven that my statement is very accurate.

See wahala

Michael5143:
It looks like 80% of the mothers being mentioned here are resting in peace.
While the 20% that are still alive under this post are being labeled as witches.

Please, my brothers and sisters, if your mom is still alive, please shower her with love and cherish her.
Because the day you turn back and you don't see her... hmm, you gonna feel the pain.
I couldn't do enough for my mother and it hurts.

Keep resting, mom 😞

Yes, The evil ones always leave longer

Caaz:
Let the trauma out sir...
What if your mum doesn't have....that is the role of your father to provide,mum's only assist.

Mumsy and doesn't have money don't go together, in fact when I want to annoy her, till tomorrow, i ask for money and katie kaboom she goes.

So, i already learnt that asking her for money is a capital offence to me. So i have to ask her things that are not money and what do you think i get?

Thank God, God is Real and He is The Ruler, King and President of mankind

Caaz:
I sure say na pastor brainwash you with canoe soap say ya mama na azen.

Na you need your pastor to brainwash you to see say your mama no dey help you when you NEED something good, even from primary school

Ah! I like how God dey always dey make me spoil all her secret evil plans for my life make i no get any good thing for dis life.

99thEnemy:
Let's ask the OP.

vdestro is this true?

This poster has answered the question
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socoharley:
Na you no sharp.. across the bridge means the "eastern region"