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Tears of rapturous joy!

Stop playing with your food, cara. If you don't kill it and eat it presently, I'll remove your fangs.

Yeah, only so you could get off their land and stop gulping all their little oxygen.

I am proud of you both but not for the aforementioned reason. Innocent. I am innocent too.

More reason. Very low threshold/tolerance level.

Isn't it past your bed time?

Eat, Pray, Love is the only thing that might appeal to naija audience. The rest, till thy kingdom come

As I said before, either one is a terrible, both together = nuclear fusion and simply unfair

Everybody get mama wey think say na him pikin special pass na

If I tell you there won't be much diagnosing for you to do, will there? So diagnose

Been reading a bit. Muki and iice must have shared 3 million private laughs with the two bozos they're playing with. Evil children. Two windecks for the two both of you

See? I don catch the disease wey dey this thread now.

Sharap dia! I don't eat before so nothing changes

And you made me post on this crazy thread. Merde!

YOU don drink

I ended up taking one for the team with that Jonah Hex o. Useless.

I did all the naughty stuff before my teens. Naughty stuff happened to me during my teens and they are all not memorable or sharing material. I can't kill all of you so I can't tell

Knight and Day was such that I couldn't decide if it was serious or funny. It was just meh. But Diaz has a smile that can make time stop. God!

I dey compliment film, una dey complain. Shawshank and Forrest Gump have one thing in common, guess what it is?

Jonah Hex wouldn't have been bad if it came out in 1994.

Ah. See assignments for Nuke. And I've not even finished with my own questions.

@MyJoe. Do you believe in the trinity and if you do how do you believe it? I mean what interpretation do you give it?

I'm honoured Nuclearboy. Thank you. And I am glad you understand me. I do not wish to prove anyone wrong. I just seek to understand.

Let me go back to the tree analogy. The sound made (and I don't think we can categorically say it made a sound. Probably is the word to use for people could have brought it down gently for all we know) as the tree fell, happened and it occupied a point in time. My argument has changed from manifestation in itself to the occurence of manifestation since I think it is a stronger point. But I promised I'd come to it later and so I will. The falling tree is like the term 'only begotten son of God'. What's the use of that word if there wasn't a time when Jesus wasn't begotten? In the same way, when we passed by the tree the first time, there was and had never been a sound. The sound came thereafter, if it came at all.

Lol at the grandfather bit. But what is is what is. What we see may not be the same thing and what we don't perceive certainly is no proof of its non-existence. If my grandfather (who has no power to perceive by the way cuz he's dead) can't feel God's presence, it doesn't mean He's dead. It's like in the film The Matrix, someone outside the matrix is dead or non-existent to those in the matrix. Considering that our existence is a form of the matrix, God needs to actually die and not simply appear to have.

I'll talk about manifestation later and I'll use your other analogy. Also I'll comment on your reply to how the trinity seemed tailored uncannyly for our salvation.

Na wa o. Jesus looooooooves Benin people

@OP, you seriously need advice? Or you want an external factor to blame for what you're already gonna do? You're not married luckily. Be thankful she didn't say something like you are the father of my child. If you love her, there's nothing love can't fix. But she has to love you back. And who are we kidding here?

Cheating is cheating but cheating pass cheating. Some cheating can't be helped and some can.

Nothing can stop anyone's ambition na. Shebi na ambition? Inception doesn't happen in real life does it?

Good man, Enigma. You're excused even though you need not ask. Same for you Nuke. But something to dream about sil vous plait.

@ Nuclearboy. Good stuff. As for your tree in the forest analogy, I'd point to other aspects of it but one will serve my purpose now: The tree fell. It fell. Once it was standing and next it fell. It cannot have been falling and making sounds no one could hear for eternity. Manifestation is an act (I'll drop the point of what use it would be to do it for no reason till later) even if it is not for anyone's benefit.

Also, I'm not entirely sure God can do absolutely anything. I think He has power over everything but I don't think he can commit suicide or cease to exist even if He wanted to.

Let me talk about another idea in my head. It seems to me that if Jesus and The Holy Spirit are like that, they existed as if just for our benefit and everyone gets a role to play. It's like a solution existing ever before the problem. It is like a mobile phone in the Jurassic waiting for the 21st century to arrive. It seems as though if there were four, one would be idle and if there were two, one would have to be made. I'm talking in terms of how we are affected by the trinity here.

In other words there is only either Jesus, Jevovah or The Holy Spirit at any one time but not all three? Let me rephrase: Is Jesus equal in all respect to The Holy Spirit and mutually to God, the Father?

BTW, I thoroughly respect your position concerning explaining God and also your refreshing simple outlook on the trinity

Ok. I'll see it tomorrow and hope it's not my turn to take one for the team

@Nuclearboy, sure God has the right to do whatever He wants. I wouldn't use the word 'right' though. In any case, because God can do anything doesn't mean He will do them. There are things God simply won't do or have to do (like becoming a bird. He could make a bird and have it sing if He cares about my mood that much).

If you believe that it is possible that God has many other manifestations or at least He could choose to manifest Himself in other ways then I am satisfied with you and conclude that the trinity is arbitrary or only a way God chose to interact with us. But in case this is not so, I won't put words in your mouth. Do you think God is exclusively a trinity? Always has been? Always will be?

Another line of thinking I have: If you say that the trinity is as a result of God's manifestations, doesn't that mean there was a time when characters like Jesus didn't exist since there was no us for God to manifest to? If Jesus has always been, then he can be no manifestation but a distinct separate being. So let me ask another question. Do you think Jesus has always been in existence since before time like God?

@Enigma. Do you think the members of the trinity are coequal? Do they have distinct wills even if they always converge? Are they made of the same substance like people of old argued about long ago. My next questions will depend on your answers.

Note: I ask stuff because I want to know and not because I want to push an agenda. I cannot guarantee that I'll be satisfied with the answers I get though and I will only ask more questions or say thanks, but no thanks.

chineke

Funny I haven't seen Iron Man 2 yet. Also I haven't seen Alice in Wonderland. Percy Jackson, Furry Vengeance, Valentine's day etc already ooze stupidity. Anyone seen Jonah Hex?

That potential is a given if you ask me. It is a film for the people. Imagine seeing Inception in Czech, you go out into the field and shoot yourself in the face

^^^Hmmmn, whilst a commendable attitude, isn't this also akin to being dogmatic?

Lol, I can't say if you got it since I'm not supposed to get it either. I'm intrigued by your ratiocination. I am not ready to go into detail now for my brain is overworked and I might reboot but I'll just say this:

1. Defining God presupposes we are agreed He exists. A non thinking God can be no God.

2. My saying God exists in all time doesn't literally mean He actually physically exists in all time but His perception of all time is real-time. Just the way you can recall the past (though hazily), He can see a bunch of futures, only crystal clearly.

More thoughts later.