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@OLAADEGBU
I expected you to respond directly to the post in question, instead of joining issues with what you told someone else in a different post.
Anyway, there are some issues you mentioned that need to be straightened.

1. William miller was nither a member of seventh Day Adventist church nor the founder. Is either your source missinformed you or your biased attitude for members of seventh Day Adventist Church made you to twist the truth.

2. No pioneer member of seventh Day Adventist church included the fourth commandment in the bible rather they drew the attention of the Christian world to one of God's forgotten commandments.

QUOTE FROM OLAADEGBU

I still think we should endeavour to study the whole truth and abide by it even when others are compromising with the evolutionist atheists. It was Adrian Rogers that said "It is better to be divided in truth than to be united in error, it is better to speak truth that hurts and then heals than to speak a lie; it is better to be hated for telling the truth than to be loved for telling a lie; it is better to stand alone with truth than to be wrong with the multitude . . . The religion of today is 'get-along-ism.' It is time for men and women of God to stand,[even] if they have to stand alone."

Your quotations above to a great extent helped to drive my points home to anyone that is teachable.

I STILL THINK WE SHOULD ENDEAVOUR TO STUDY THE WHOLE TRUTH AND ABIDE BY IT EVEN WHEN OTHERS ARE COMPROMISING.
That is just what we are doing. we are not compromising the Biblical truth. We are telling the world that the same God who said, do not kill, do not covet don't use my name in vain also said, Remember the sabbath Day and keep it holy. Time has not changed. The sabbath Day God commanded is not Sunday the first day of the week rather saturnday the seventh day of the week. God gave it to mankind before the Jewish state came to be. See Genesis 2;2,3. It is not a Jewish sabbath, even if it is, salvation came to us through the Jews. JESUS came as a Jew, all the apostles were Jews, all the authors of the bible were Jews. Can you dispute that?
So, that is the biblical truth. We will abide by it and will not compromise it.

IT IS BETTER TO BE DIVIDED IN TRUTH THAN TO BE UNITED IN ERROR.
Sure, our stand is that we will not be a part of this error, even if people like you may call us a sect or cult. unknown to you that was what they called the early disciples.

IT IS BETTER TO SPEAK THE TRUTH THAT HURTS AND THEN HEALS THAN TO SPEAK A LIE.
Yes, not withstanding that this truth hurts, we will speak it. knowing that all those who will accept it will be healed at last.

IT IS BETTER TO BE HATED FOR TELLING THE TRUTH THAN TO BE LOVED FOR TELLING A LIE.
Even if the world may hate us for proclaiming this truth, we don't care, after all they hated Jesus for the sake of the truth.

IT IS BETTER TO STAND ALONE WITH THE TRUTH THAN TO BE WRONG WITH THE MULTITUDE.
As you can see, we are standing alone on this sabbath issue. When billions of Christians has accepted this man made day of worship we are saying no, GOD and GOD alone must be Obed.

THE RELIGION OF TODAY IS GET-ALONG-ISM.
That is nothing but the truth.

IT IS TIME FOR MEN AND WOMEN OF GOD TO STAND EVEN IF THEY HAVE TO STAND ALONE.
My brother, OLAADEGBU, the time is now, this call is for you. Rev. 14;7 says, fear God and give him glory for the hour of His judgement is come: and worship him that made heaven and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. See exd. 20;8-11.
To fear God is to obey Him, isn't it?

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Re: Why Majority Of Christians And Their Leaders Will Miss Heaven.
« #4 on: March 18, 2009, 02:28 AM »

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Quote from: Viable on October 13, 2008, 01:10 PM
Pilgrim, thanks for that comment. By GOD'S grace i won't be among the majority besides i won't like to be lonely in Heaven. where do you want to be? Among the MAJORITY or the FAITHFUL FEW?

@ndipe
I didn't say i will be lonely in heaven. I said "i won't like to be lonely in heaven"meaning that i want heaven to be populated. Thats the reason for the message, for people to hear and take the bold dedecisiono obey God.

@Chukwudi44
Hell fire is an event and not a place. The bible tells us that the wages of sin is death while the reward for righteousness is eternal life. The Bible did not promise two eternal lives, one in paradise and another one in hell fire as most theologians do teach today. The bible calls the fire for the destruction of sinners "Unquenchable Fire" that means fire that cannot be stopped until it completes the destruction of sinners. Isaiah prophesied about the destruction of the earth in Isa. 24;1-6. verse 6 says therefore hath the curse devoured the earth and they that dwell therein are desolate; Therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men are left. For sinners to be burning for ever and ever and ever in hell fire means, they will have immortal bodies but the bible did not mention that. Biblical example of hell fire is Sodom and Gomorrah. See Jude verse 7 , Even as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities about them in like manner giving themselves over to fornication and going after strange flesh, set forth for an example of, suffering the vengeance of ETERNAL FIRE.

I agree with bobbyaf. The devil is maintaining the first lie he told our first mother, EVE, when he deceived her in the garden of eden "you shall not surely die"Genesis 3;4, By bringing familiar spirits that masquerade as our dead loved ones. By this action the devil want the living to believe that the soul is immortal.

Attn.Dayokanu, Moderate intake of sugar and foods containing fatty acid may not harm your body. Almost all carbohydrate foods contain sugar after all. Sugar i think may be unhealthy when you abuse it. So it is advisable to take moderately that which is good and abstain completely from that which is bad. Cigarette in it's nature is insidious poison and should be avoided.

Jesus gave the warning in matthew 24. Isaiah 8;20 says to the law and testimony if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. Let the worshipers open their eyes and search for the truth. the bible says we will seek for God before we will can find Him. So ladies and gentilemen, SEEK! SEEK!! SEEK!!! and SEEK!!!!.

if the catholic church fails to excommunicate the rapist, the law will excommunicate him from the society to the prison.

Attn. Olaadegbu, your understanding of the Fourth commandment is wrong. REMEMBER THE SABBATH DAY AND KEEP IT HOLY, Exodus 20; 8-11, there says the sabbath day is the seventh day which is saturnday and not Sunday the first day of the week.

God created man and revealed His existence to man, Right!

The warning on every pack of cigarette says, 'smokers are liable to die young'. that means that anybody who smokes is intentionally poisoning himself/herself. what can you call that? simply sucide. the type commited by judas iscariot. anybody who takes away his life may not make heaven.b

So many christians today don;t read the last book of the Bible-Revelation. Reason, some will tell you that it is difficult to understand while others will not for the fear of inheriting the curse in, revelation 22;18 and 19 " For i testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, if any man shall add unto these things, GOD shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book. And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, GOD shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city and from the things that are written in this book" Nevertheless, there is blessing in reading and understanding, this prophetic revelation ,written for those who will witness the last days of earth's history, see revelation; 1;3.

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Members Of Church Of Satan Meets Here
« on: October 02, 2008, 08:35 AM »

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if you are a member of the church of saSatanlease drop a note here.
new members are welcomed. our parent church is america with members including celine dion and several others.
Barack Obama is a secret member and will declare his membership immediately after winning elections.
you are guaranteed a visa to the usa for our annual convention in february next year. members are usually stupendously rich because we connect you fast. be the first to join this elite church in nigeria. we

celinedion or whatever you call yourself , please don't drag Obama into this. Nairaland is an international forum of repute and not a place where people can say anything they like.

What evidence do you have to prove that Barack Obama is a secret member of your
church of satan?

Dear Icoman, now that you know, you should reject outright their key unbiblical doctrines including the change of God's holy sabbath day from saturday the seventh day to sunday the first day of the week. See daniel 7; 25  daniel prophesied about the coming of the papacy and the things the papacy will do.

1. And he shall speak great words against the most High

2. and shall wear out the saints of the most High

3. and think to change times and laws:

About  think to change time and laws, check it out in  'A DOCTRINAL CATECHISM BY STEPHEN KEENAN' page 174.

question: Have you any other way of proving that the church (ROMAN CATHOLIC) has power to institute festivals of precept?

ANSWER: Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her- she could not have substituted the observance of sunday, the first day of the week, for the observance of saturday, the seventh day, a change for which there is no scriptual authority.

QUESTION: which is the sabbath day?

ANSWER:Saturday is the Sabbath day.

QUESTION: Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?

ANSWER: We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church, in the Council of Laodicea (AD 364) transfered the solemnity from saturday to sunday (see also  the convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine page 50, third Edition)

The prophecy of Daniel in Daniel 7;25 fulfilled here. The changed of the day of worship from saturday to sunday was don by the same Catholic Church.

That shows that the change is man made. So JESUS SAYS IN MATTHEW 15;8, 9. THAT ALL THOSE WHO OBEY MAN MADE LAWS INSTEAD OF THE LAW OF GOD ARE WORSHIPPING GOD IN VAIN.

Now, that you have known that the same authority you called a "modernised way of idolatry", also changed the sabbath day of God, what are you waiting for? reject them and their man made day of worship. Say to hell with popular opinion. God does not care about popular opinion.

Pilgrim, thanks for that comment. By GOD'S grace i won't be among the majority besides i won't like to be lonely in Heaven. where do you want to be? Among the MAJORITY or the FAITHFUL FEW?

WHY MAJORITY OF CHRISTIANS AND AND THEIR LEADERS WILL MISS HEAVEN!

KEY BIBLE TEXT; ISAIAH 24:1-6.

Prophet Isaiah in the book of Isaiah 24;1-6, prophesied the destruction of the Earth and why God will destroy the inhabitants of this Earth with fire.

-Behold the LORD maketh the Earth empty, and maketh it waste,and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.

-And it shall be, as with the people so with the 'priest' (pastors,Reverends,Apostles, Bishops, popes, Evangelists,Elders,Deacons etc) as with the servaant, so with his master, as with the maid, so with her mistress, as with the buyer, so with the seller, as with the Lender, so with the borrower, as with the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him.

-The land shall be ultterly emptied, and ultterly spoiled; for the LORD hath spoken this word.

-The Earth mourneth and fadeth away; the haughthy people of the Earth do languish.

-The Earth is also defiled under the inhabitants thereof (why) because they have TRANSGRESSED THE LAWS, CHANGED THE ORDINANCE AND BROKEN THE EVERLASTING COVENANT.

-Therefore hath the curse devoured the Earth , and they that dwell therein are desolate therefore, the inhabitants of the Earth are burned, and FEW MEN LEFT.(Isaiah 24:1-6)

From the above Bible quotation, God spelled out why He will destroy the Earth and the inhabitants. Because of DISOBEDIENCE AND REBELLION.

God detaste rebellion. The bible in 1 samuel 15; 22, 23, tells us that God regards rebellion and sturborness as the same sin as the sins of witchcraft and idolatry.

Following the context that led to the statement in 1 samuel 15; 22,23, God commanded king saul to destroy utterly the Amalekites, but he did selective obedience. His response was that the PEOPLE, mark the word THE PEOPLE took of spoil to sacrifice unto the LORD. (1 SAM. 15;21} That means we should be careful how we follow popular opinion.
God is not delighted in sacrifices as in obeying the voice of the LORD, for to obey is better than sacrifices and to harken than the fat of rams,
Today, many church leaders don't tell their members the biblical truth about the position of God's commandment in the new covenant. The poor members depending on the directions of such leaders feel they are doing the will of God.
the truth is that God is not interested in our sacrifices in terms of fat tithe and offerings, in our long prayers and fasting, the time and money we spend on television Evangelisim, even the battalion or legion of demons we cast out does not matter much to God, if we are deep in intentional rebellion. The LORD requires that we obey Him in everything for He indid gave us the law of liberty (The ten commandment, james 2;12).
On the last day (the judgement Day) many great pastors, tele-Evangelists, reverends, apostles etc will say, Lord we preached in the name of JESUS, we prophesied in the name of JESUS, we healed the sick in the name of JESUS, Cast out demons in the name of JESUS, did many wonderful good works in the name of JESUS but JESUS will reply saying i never knew you, depart from me you workers of iniquity. Is very sad to note that this will be the fate of so many great church leaders and their members. For JESUS said not all who call me lord! lord!! will enter into the kingdom of GOD but those who do the will of my father in heaven.(matthew 7;21-23)
Many christians and their leaders profess the lordship of JESUS CHRIST on leaps-service. JESUS is saying, if you love me, obey my commandment. (john 14;15) . Unforturnately, these christian leaders today uphold man made commandment instead of God's commandment. God commanded, REMEMBER THE SABBATH DAY AND KEEP IT HOLY (Exd.20;8-11) but because of popular opinion these leaders are obeying man's command, which says remember sunday (the first day of the week) and keep it holy. that means that they prefer to obey man rather than God the creator of heaven and Earth, which is rebellion to GOD ALMIGHTY. To these worshipers, Jesus is saying, that you are worshiping Him in vain for obeying the voice of man rather than that of GOD. (Matthew 15;8-9).

These church leaders who know the truth and hide it from their members will tell them that it does not matter. some will say that JESUS changed the law and gave anew one but JESUS denied all these accussations saying, do not suppose that i have come to do away with the law or the prophets but to enforce them (matthew 5;17-19 Goodspeed) He went further to say that until heaven and earth pass away that no dot will be removed from the law.

Many worshipers today will perish for lack of knowledge. they will miss heaven because of an' it does not matter that matters.'For the bible says that my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. for they have forgotten the law of GOD, God says i will reject them and their children. (Hosea 4;6) Here God spelt it out what the lack of knowledge is ,that is to forget the law of the LORD. So if we love GOD we will obey HIM in everything, including the 4th commandment, remember the sabbath day to keep it holy. The bible says if we obey all and say we will not obey only one that we are guilty of all for the same GOD that said do not kill also said you shall not commit adulty and remember the sabbath day and keep it holy. (james 2;10,11).

The truth is that GOD is not ready to tolerate another rebellion, in the new heaven and earth therefore He will screen out all rebellious people and extinguish them from the surface of the earth together with the author of rebellion ,the devil.
Today, GOD is warning all christians to beware of false prophets. (matthew 24;11) for they will deceive many. You may ask, what of the uncountable number of christians that honour sunday instead of saturday the sabbath day commanded by GOD ALMIGHTY. The answer is not far fetched. God does not go with majority, rather the faithful few who uphold his commandments. check out in the bible, when GOD destroyed the world with flood, how many people did he save? only eight When he destroyed sodom and gomorrha, how many did he save? only three, Lot and the two daughters. Because of rebellion, out of six hundred and something adult males that left Egypt for the promised land, how many were able to make it? only two people joshua and caleb. So in the things of GOD majority may be wrong.
So let us know that what will take us to heaven is our obedience to the commandment of GOD and the testimony of JESUS (Rev.12;17 and Rev. 14;12) . So, the law and the testmonyof JESUS is the standard of GOD's judgement.

There is an urgent need for every worship to open his or her eyes. check out bible advice on how you can know false prophets in Isaiah 8;20 which says to the law and the testimony if they do not speak according to these, it means there is no light in them.

Is only those who want to remain poor that are afraid of making someone rich. The manufacturer who buys raw material is making someone rich. The wholesaler who buys from the manufacturer is making someone rich. Even the Employee is also making the Employer rich because any organization that is not making profit cannot pay her employee.

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Well, miracle comes through the influence of the Holy Spirit backed by the name of Jesus christ. For miracle to happen, Holy spirit will use human agents. but when human agents begins to command Holy spirit, let the listener beware. Thats my own view anyway.

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The present truth indid is total obedence to the commandments of GOD. Jesus summarised them with the word LOVE. That means; love for God (Exodus 20:2-11 and deuteronomy 6:5) and love for your fellow human( Exodus 20:12-17 and Leviticus 19:18) God's commandments and the faith of JESUS cHRIST are the standards of His judgement. Rev. 14:12 says: Here is the patience of the saints:here are they that keep the commandments of GOD and THE FAITH OF Jesus.

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If i may ask, where is our own? (NIGERIAN AIRWAYS) we killed it! now na morning.

If you read the entire new testerment Bible from matthew to revelation, there is no where Jesus or His deciples celebrated 25th december as the birthday of Jesus Christ. Rather Jesus instructed christians to celebrate the holy communion in remembrace of Him, Jesus. (1 corinthians 11:23-29) christmass celebration became a christian celebration when the Romans made christianitya state Religion, after the fall of pagan Rome. In my opinion, the glamour and fanfare that goes with the celebration may be far away from what Jesus christ Himself requires from His followers.

Your language is unbecoming of a moderator of such a beautiful forum. There is an urgent need for an apology from you. Not to those who are posting risky businesses in this forum rather to the general public for using such a language in this highly regarded forum. (SEUN ,PLEASE TAKE NOTE)

Congratulations! our dear President-elect. May our Almighty GOD grant you the strength, wisdom and understanding to take Nigeria to a greater level. The Lord will equally give you long life and good health as well but don't forsake the poor Nigerians that voted for you.

I am sorry jagunlabi if you did not understand what i meant by CHURCHES GOING TO CHURCH ON SUNDAY. Remember that the word church does not necessarily mean church building alone. It can be used to address a group of believers. To put you clear, what i mean is: Why do many christian denominations hold church services on sundays instead of saturdays which is the sabbath day commanded by God in the Bible?

There are pastors and there are Pastors About 70% of Nigerian pastors may be after their stomachs and fame, that is why when The G.C. dies the wife or son or relative will takeover. Read the whole of matthew 24. there, Jesus gave an explanation concerning your question.

WHY DO MANY CHRISTIAN CHURCHES GO TO CHURCH ON SUNDAY AND NOT SATURDAY? Please i want to know why majority of christian churches in the world today attend church services on sunday, which the Bible called the first day of the week, (Luke 24;1,Matthew 28;1) instead of saturday which is the seventh day and the one blessed and commanded by God that christians should remember and keep holy.(Gen. 2:2-3 and exodus 20:8-11} Is there anywhere in the bible that shows that God changed His mind about the sabbath commandment?

RE-HELL FIRE DOES NOT EXIST ACCORDING TO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. IS IT TRUE?           I want to address this question from the biblical point of view. Hell fire is an event and not a place as so many christian denominations do teach today. One pastor said that sinners will be burning forever and ever that is not what the bible says. The bible says unquenchable fire, that is a fire which nobody can put off untill it consume every sinner. that means that sinners will be burnt up with fire which noone can put off. see Isaiah 24;1-6 and jude verse 7 where the bible mentioned the destruction of sodom and gomorrha as example of eternal fire. The question for anyone who says that hell fire will burn forever, the question for such person is , is sodom and gomorrha still burning till today? So if the Jehovah's Witnesses told you that hell fire is not a place as many christians teaches today, they are right but if they taught you that GOD will not punish sinners to death with fire, they are wrong,